Beans, Bullets, Bandages & You
Beans, Bullets, Bandages & You
Episode 142: The Most Dangerous Animals To Preppers
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Hello, everybody.
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Hello, everybody. And welcome to the show The big show. The most important, incredibly claim, but test it is recorded in our vehicle. And today we're in the red studio, driving down the road, heading towards the happen in state of Ay Oh wah.
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That's what tall corn grows
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grinding today. That is where the tall corn grows. It's certainly not growing tall around here. This year we were in the midst of a crop failure year. Here in North Missouri, At least parts of north Missouri were driving past crop that will soon be ground up into silage. And if you don't know what silage is, it is what happens when people who row corn just cut it and stick it straight into what's known as a silage wagon. They take the silage, and they have to prepare it so the cattle can eat its stock and all they have to prepare in a special way. If it is still wet, they have to put it in what is known as a harvest store or something similar to that to dry it out because if you don't do that, it will be poisonous to the cattle. But that's way beyond the scope of our podcast. They although our podcast day does have to do with critters and kettles, are critters disorder, they're just very boring.
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Cattle actually kill a lot more human beings than lions and tigers and bears and sharks and sharks.
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But starting Shark Week old evil, horrible sharks and everything like that way at Catterick. A lot more people in sharks do
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I know somebody has been killed by his cattle.
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I do, too. I know somebody else who got killed and most of time. It's usually a farming accident, to be fair, you know, crushed in a gator. You know that kind of thing. Yeah, but it does happen. And as the Old country song says, and this is true, we repeated it often. But if you're a city person, you need to learn this. Don't mess with the bull. He can get real mean. And if you don't think I'm you know he's faster than you. He's much bigger than you. And he's meaner than you
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is deceptively faster than you because he looks slow and stupid because most of the time he just stands there and looks at you with unadulterated hatred.
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Yes, there used to be a sport. We have a little bicycling route that we use out on a certain rural road that does virtually no traffic on it. It's paid. So we read our bikes out there and there used to be a pull out there, and, uh, I called him. He hate me because he had such a malevolent hatred. Look, every time I rode by on my bicycle, you could just read his mind is like, you know that fence, Really? I just choose to stay here because that friends really couldn't hold me if I wanted to go through it. Which is true to you, in fact, now, T o o. I mean, you should see you could see the hatred in his eyes every time you went past him.
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The funny thing is, he didn't look at me with nearly as much hate. I think it's cause I smell girly. Yeah, I spent Thea Oh, sometime in the past, hacking around Yellowstone in the Tetons, carrying a can of hairspray close at hand at all times, and it got me to thinking about the dangers of wild animals.
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And they're not always what you think while animals can kill you, but in ways that you may not be thinking about,
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For one thing, absolutely. The most dangerous animal on the planet. I bet Salty knows what. This one is responsible for more human deaths than any other by far.
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I'm driving
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the mosquito closely followed while not closely. But second place seat see Fly, which carries African sleeping sickness,
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which we don't have so much around here is the mosquito we d'oh
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No, we don't have CT flies. We have other biting flies, but they don't happen to carry that disgusting disease. The thing is that the insect bites often and arthropod bites like ticks often carry communicable disease that's responsible for a large number of deaths. Washington D. C. Was considered a high hazard posting in early American history because of all the malaria.
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Yeah, Washington is built on a swamp. Those you don't know. It is built on the Potomac River swamp, and now the swamps are all gone. It's Yeah, well, I mean, it's still Washington, and we don't talk about politics environmentally. It's at least not a swamp anymore. And New Orleans was ah, hazardous
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and all of Florida, Florida was lightly inhabited until the development of air conditioning because it was it's so hazardous and miserable with the heat, the humidity.
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And we're gonna tell you we talked about this before because we've been It's one of my favorite places on the planet, but it's really an interesting story for top to bottom. This place called Tates Help and, uh, now takes hell has been basically commercially logged years ago and and they had. It's been logged. It's been channel ized, you know, Drain drain. That's been all kinds of stuff. They're starting to restore it now, but and the three actual draining and commercialization of tapes held destroyed the local ecology to the point where they just shut it down. It was it wasn't just one of these. Uh oh, we're getting a little short of spotted owl. Kind of the things. It was a okay, you're making life in this part of the state of livable sort of things.
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Tate Elyse was a large, swampy area in in Florida, by the way on,
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and the reason it's called Tae tell is you go until you tell the story.
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Well, a guy was out hunting with his dogs and he got misplaced.
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It's a big area. Yeah, if you've never been in a true Florida swamp in the summer, you don't understand how hellish it ca NBI. So
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because every step you're falling in the water, that's calf deep. And there's things to trip over every step of the way and mark and poisonous snakes and alligators and biting, biting, biting. Everything's
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in limestone, sinkholes
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and surprisingly little food.
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It was just hell,
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yeah, and the water's all nasty and skunky.
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Eventually take found his way out, and he came up Thio farmhouse and asked for help. Nastier Iwas
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I'm Tate and I've just come from Hill,
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so it's been known since then as tapes help, and it's an interesting place. But, you know, if you look at the biting in the biting and the stinging and the annoying we were in the Glades actually was the middle of winter. It was the dry air. It was the middle of the dry season. I remember what the winner was. Dry season,
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Mr Winter Break,
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and we were in the glades and bubbling. Here's a tip. If you live in the north and you take a winter vacation, go south. Get away from the weather. Just tip. Okay. Uh, but we're in. We're in the glades. It really It hadn't been bad, The mosquitoes weren't bad. And I saw this beautiful light situation. I'm a photographer, so I stopped and I got out and started taking pictures of this pool. And the wife walks over and starts looking at some biological something or other. She's a biologist, and all of a sudden it's the middle of the day. Maybe a little bit towards afternoon
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and the sun was out
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and the sun was out. But all of a sudden we awoke the biting black flies. A
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cloud of them rose like
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a ghost of the
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damned souls or something and descended upon us.
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I want to see how fast we could.
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Okay, we're done.
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Wow. And we were wearing bug repellent. Everything day didn't care. They were like buffet. Hey, look, they've opened up the buffet. Let's get some.
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Uh, yeah, we left. So the first thing is, when you think of animals, you may not think of that, but that's actually your biggest life. And wellbeing threat is the biting insects because of the disease transmission. And that's gonna get worse when all the if all the governmental suppression of those insect populations goes down. Similarly, disease transmission through, ah, rats and mice is a big deal. We still have plague in the American Southwest and in dry years, when the mice get desperate start to invade homes. We have a few cases every dry year from people trying to clean out their storage spaces or whatever, and they're sweeping up mouse dust and they get the plague from the please and the residues on the feces and things.
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Now there's good news, and there's bad news when it comes to the plate, and we have actually have an article on three B Y about the plague. It's really actually pretty good. You want to check it out, just go in there and to search for plague. There's good news, and there's bad news about the play. The good news is that antibiotics pretty much knocked the play. The bad news is there's something called antibiotic resistance,
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which so far has not been found in the plague,
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which so far has not been found.
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But that's so far
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so far.
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Yeah, when people start abusing the kinds of antibiotics that are used on the plague, and they're used more frequently. Antibiotic resistance is pretty much a given to spring up, and it takes a fair bit of antibiotics. It's not a three day course, and you're done.
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It's kind of like tuberculosis. I've been reading a lot about tuberculosis, which was known back in the old days. Is consumption nasty? One nasty, nasty disease? Yeah, you could cure that with it pretty much today with antibiotics. But it's not just to take three pills for five days kind of a thing.
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It is no longer possible to kill all strains of tuberculosis with antibiotics. There are some strains now that are completely antibiotic resistant. So if that doesn't terrify public health people, I don't know anything that does.
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His consumption's bad. It's demonic. It's
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progressive and fatal if you don't have the antibiotics, and that's basically it. So disease transmission through the small animals is the biggest risk. But you know what's getting kind of to the headliners? Cause vetting, you know, interesting that a sexy and cool, you know, getting bitten by a mosquito and get a beer. Yeah,
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but even I can tell you what the next biggest problem is, but it's not the headliner. You wanna goto great and take care of the headliners first, though.
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No, they're in the same order of animals as the headliners. So go ahead with the next biggest threat.
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The way I see it, the next biggest threat, especially not so much now, because we have ways of taking care of these things. But the next biggest threat in on we're gonna go for a prep it for Preppers because this we're talking about prepping stuff here. The next biggest animal threat to your life, in my opinion, is the garden and food pests, because we can control them pretty well right now, when the stuff isn't hitting the fan through all kinds of herbicides for non animal passed on insecticides and and controls and stuff like that. But in a stuff it's a fan situation. Pests are going to be a really big deal. Think back to all of the crop failures caused by grasshopper plagues. Grasshopper plagues used to be a thing. It really did.
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They're still thing in Africa.
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Yeah, they're they're horrible and they just wipe out a crop.
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Will we well out of them descend. We have a
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plague in our we have several plagues in our little garden space. We have the zucchini squash bugs that we could put the chemicals on to keep them away. But we don't like chemical food. We don't like we like,
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naturally, like chemical food. We don't like artificial. Well, we don't like pesticides. Chemicals on our food sprayed on our food. We don't want food is made of chemicals. I just couldn't let them. But you know
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what? I'm pesticides. Thea. Artificial pesticides
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would rather lose the squash midseason than have pesticides in the garden and on everything reading.
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And like the zucchinis air, the zucchinis air a two edged sword because the squash bugs can wipe out zucchinis basically overnight. But zucchinis can grow basically overnight. It's got one of those deals were, Well, you know, we do have squashed bug, but it's still popping out. Zerguini. So there we are.
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Yeah, I often lose musk my squash to squash bugs because I don't want to put the pesticide on him. But I have lots of neighbors who don't make that choice. And when the zucchini start coming in, they've got more than they can use in there begging people to take zucchini often. So
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not as much this year.
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Not as much this year. But my plants lasted longer. So we did okay.
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And then there's the other kind of garden past and And for this we have. Right now we don't have a great solution because we don't get arrested. But if the stuff hits the fan, we're going to me d squirreling our area. Don't be one of my first things to do is de squirrel my area defenses keep
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out the ground hogs and the air rabbits, which are also will also decimate a garden,
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the squirrel and the pesto. We, for example, we had a peach tree. We have a
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beech trees find
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and the peach trees were coming. Peaches were coming in. It was looking good. It wasn't as good a year is. Some of the blossoms got knocked by some late cross, but we're getting some and we started the harvest a little bit. A couple of good ones had fallen off, and, you know, it was starting to get right about time to start harvesting them. And she looked at him and and let him go. Another day, So I'm driving Brownback behind
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that. I looked at him at eight o'clock in the morning.
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So that afternoon, I'm driving back down the road and I see a little tree rat of squirrel carrying off one of her, um, peaches. I'm like, Whoa, a little jerk. That's not the word I use. This is a G rated podcast. But I will tell you that is not the word I used. You'll jerk. I said so I go around and look at the tree, and there's not many peaches left on it. I mean, this this tree was pretty full of peaches that morning, so I I literally get on the phone to her in the house. Hey, you really need to go out and take a look at your peach tree. You need the harvest. Any peaches you're gonna harvest. Is there gonna be any left by morning? And you tell your side.
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So I went up and checked my tree and do the frost. It only had, like, a dozen beaches left on there. The harvest.
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And if you a couple of already come off.
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Yeah, I had eaten some of them, but there were about a dozen left had been keeping track of him. They've been a dozen that morning and I went out and there were three.
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That little sucker. All those little suckers have taken nine peaches in the day.
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Nine peaches in five hours.
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That's how fast it can happen. Now we're going to take remedial steps next year. I already have already have it planned out. They make tree wraps, a large collection of people.
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It looks like they're auctioning some farm equipment today. Or so we're having a big sale.
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Yes, they are. Well, but that's not what we're doing. And there's a plane just barely hanging up there in the sky. Oh, yeah, there's the airport right there. Okay, What is that Hand the plane barely hanging up. Oh, it's taking off. Never mind. You can't see the airport. Memphis from the for the and no, I'm not talking about Memphis, Tennessee. I have no idea where the airport is. Yes, I do. It's right next to a highway because it's got all those that explains. But anyway, pressing right along.
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So yeah, garden pests and and we're gonna do it Separate post on the whole pest rating. The garden problem soon. Maybe too, Because we've got there's two different aspects of it, right? So we'll just let that lay and move on,
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right? And we're gonna do an air gun post.
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That's one of the two.
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Oh, yes, I'm going to do an air gun post because that finally, finally, what we did the next day as we went and made sure that the air gun was sighted in
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leave it to your imagination. What? I was visualizing on the target as I was sighting in the pellet gun.
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But anyway, great.
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But there are actually some big vertebrate animals that will what people think of when they think about dangerous wild animals, things that will pose a life hazard to some extent, they do now, but will to a greater extent. If there is a large disruption of the controls we currently have in place in human movement patterns and food availability and stuff like that, there's gonna be some other big problems,
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but again, it's probably not what you're thinking.
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Yeah, the biggest one is not anything that you'd see on Shark Week or Grizzly Week or anything like that Night agrees. We'll talk about nine, have been interesting, interesting, but the actual biggest threat. And it's actually threatened now in rural areas. Feral dogs.
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Yeah, you wouldn't think about dogs. What dogs? Dog packs riel thing.
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If you do not control dogs and especially if you don't feed him well, they immediately find other dogs and form packs. And those packs have no fear of humans. In fact, they have some members who are used to bossing around their humans, and it's often those little dogs that are allowed to boss around their humans. Little jerks that instigate the big trouble. They'll go after somebody like, say, a cyclist two's writing by the stupid little dog. We'll go after the cyclist. Yeah, and then the big pack mates who have been better trained because people are more afraid of the bigger dogs who wouldn't have attacked on their own feel compelled to jump in on the side of their pack mate. And now you've got the three dogs with Jaws is white. Is my head coming after me instead of just this stupid little football size thing? What was that? Tried it in the first. Yeah, I think of footballs. When I think of that guy I normally work for animal abuse, but anything that tries to bite me while I'm riding my bike down the street if it gets kicked, it shouldn't have had its face there.
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Yeah, well, I have actually had a owner of a dog yell at me. You kicked my dog. I was riding a bicycle and your dog's mouth. Lis, where my foot waas Think about it. I didn't come over into your yard and kick your dog. I kicked your dog. It was trying to bite my foot.
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I kicked your dog in the teeth because the teeth were going for my foot at the time. That's actually often the best care for dogs that chase bicycles is to have him catch one ones because they tend to snap onto the pedals and the penalty is going around. And the dog
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that happened, I've lifted my foot where the dog just chomped Grab the pedal and I just kicked in. I was wearing cleats at the time, which means my other foot was collected connected to the pedal, and I just kicked it on around man. That dog just rolled is its own punishment. That dog never came for me again. I mean, you know, and you may be a toggle. Was my heart out to dog owners? Okay, if your dog is acting aggressive and you give me that Oh, he wouldn't hurt anybody.
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Yes, he will.
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Yes. He will
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have standing there having a conversation
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bitten at by a dog that wouldn't hurt any
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bitten. Full stop. Once I was standing there having the conversation with somebody, and she was telling me he would never do that. And the dog was standing right there, and the dog at that reached down and bit tire of my bike. He would never go after a bicycle. He's just barking and the dog reaches down and bites the tire. Then I show her just teeth marks on my shoe, which is why I stopped in the first place. So yeah, he will. But I expect a problem to be much worse when people stop feeding their dogs and I will be carrying Mr Glock and Mr Pepper Spray is also very useful. Or bear spray.
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No bear spread of dogs. Hate.
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Yeah. Bear spray is an excellent protection. Check your local ordinances.
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Don't. Unless you absolutely, positively have to do not shoot a human being with bears. Prey gives bear spray is not considered a normal self defense weapon is considered an aggravated weapon in most places. So,
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yeah, it's a higher concentration and, ah, higher amount delivered because you're meant to spray it 40 feet away from you to make a cloud to stop the bear from charging through it. That's what bear spray is designed for. So it's more potent. I could wear their bear bells, dinner bells they call
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the bear bells are called dinner bells. To be fair, I think they actually do work at least somewhat.
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Oh, yeah, On bears that have not been acculturated to humans. They work because the bears, we'll leave people alone until
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don't you're not surprising them.
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Until the 19 seventies, grizzly bears were not considered a threat to humans, even in places where they were abundant, like, say, Glacier National
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Park. And we're gonna we're gonna actually do. Ah, we're gonna do a podcast on that. Are we just gonna come out here?
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We could do a podcast on that because it's a
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video podcast. Senate of the group. Useful Interesting message. You're so many prepping lessons to learn in night of the Grizzlies. And it's not just about grizzly bears there, so many prepping lessons. Fuller in that particular adventure or a misadventure, I guess it would be
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very much misadventure, But yeah,
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Here's a hint, though. If you're going to a national park, okay, have grizzly bears okay? And they damn diesel scientists hard cited camping only. Here's a hint being ah, hard cited camper on Lee.
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Yeah, don't be careless about
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yourself when you go out to powder your nose, okay?
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Because you don't want to trip over one of those guys.
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No, you don't know. They're much better than they used to be. In most cases, the Park Service is much better about making sure people don't dumps and everything like that. But we're not gonna go into that in this podcast. That's beyond the pale of what we're doing
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here. So, feral dogs, Biggest threat.
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You wouldn't think so. But it's true. You think Cougars and Jaguars and stuff like that about Cougars, at least in America,
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Jack wires in Florida and
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Florida. You would think that they were, you know, the big, But they're not really not a big deal. I mean, yeah, they pop the occasional kid if they could get him, You know, at night, wandering around in the woods at night. If you have three year old wandering in the woods at night, Jaguar, probably take
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it. Or the A kor. The occasional cyclist mountain biker gets attacked by a cougar. There's something about the movement of a bike that triggers a but most of instinct.
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You know, unless you're doing that, you're probably pretty safe
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now. They are starting to infiltrate cities, and that's the next thing on my list is wild animals that have started moving into cities having little choice because human habitation has expanded as it is gonna live somewhere. Well, if they're people where I gotta live, that I will have to deal with people.
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And there's like people have a lot of sloppy habits. They have a lot of ways, so there's a lot of food laying around around people, So it's just off.
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Yeah, actually, I think the biggest wild animal threat is coyotes, because we don't We think of coyotes is being these little scavenging guys and stuff like that. But if they are not out competed by wolves, they are serious huh? Pack attacking large animal predators. They take out antelopes and a buffalo. Calves are bison, calves and things like that. If they're not out competed by the rules of the area. And then there's the red wolves. They're red walls, which aren't actually wolves, but turns out they're a hybrid between wolves. Coyotes
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was laughing, but, um, you know, if you are any kind of, ah, wilderness person or wildlife person, all this should be a big red flagged you when she says a bison calf. Because generally we have a bison cap. You got to go through bison Mama to do it. And these are herd animals. Okay? There's not a lot of bison hanging out by themselves that are females with calves. You will have bachelor's hanging out. That's very common, but any coyote pack that can take down Ah, full bachelor bison is a tougher packed than Iowa.
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Yeah, they don't generally have a problem with that. Remember that story? Maybe a deep winter. And the
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story I gave you Don't mess with the bull. He can get real mean. Yeah, well, that's bison. They they do. They get mean
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there are people killed. Have been several people killed in Yellowstone by bison because they thought it would be cute to take pictures with their kid on the freaking bison.
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Let their kids on the bison. They're not tame guys, they're not.
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So yeah, and it's usually guys who get killed, even if they put the kid on the bison. It's not kid who's gotten killed in Yellowstone. It's the dad who's doing it. I think they smell testosterone and hate testosterone. You have testosterone and you're not me. You're competing for my females. I will kill you. It's looks like their attitude.
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I don't blame
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him. But anyway, coyotes have become so acculturated to humans. Doc, my hiking partner, has a pack of them living in the dry riverbed that passes for a river in the desert Southwest, where she lives right in the middle of a city and they're raising their pups back there. You think they're not going to start attacking things when they can't get enough food from the garbage dumps. I think they're gonna be attacking things right now. Animal control is trapping and killing all the ones who get aggressive and cause problems. But if that service is not available, you better be providing that service for yourself because the coyotes will be a problem. And to some extent, the other animals, like the occasional cougar or black bear that has infiltrated the cities and gotten used to people will be a problem.
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Started being quite ahead to stop. Try it for a bit. Yeah. Um, yeah. This is my turn. And yet they were coming in a road that was just oil. Who? Sorry. Car chip and seal roads. You're not familiar with Chip and seal roads? We got him all over the place here in North Missouri.
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It's a method of repaving. That's a 1,000,000 is a lot of
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it is just
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nasty debris on the road until it settles,
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it is what it is pressing right along. What other animals we're gonna talk about today.
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Now, I think we're actually to the ones that most people think about when they think about dangerous animals
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grizzly bears, wolves,
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grizzly bears and bulls. Yeah, Tigers top predators.
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Tigers will kill you. I would. We're gonna talk about in another podcast and paranoid prepper just did recently, at least when this was recorded recently. Who knows when this will get on the air. Um, as supposedly on the air, it's women who knows when I go out over the Interwebs. But paranoid prepper just did a really good prepper fiction versus fact article, and we're gonna do a podcast on the same thing too. But this is one of the preppers fiction things that comes up in at least a couple of the serious That I think it's so interesting dies the fire dystopian universe where, like, gunpowder stops working really good Siris for the first few books. What is the big problems is tigers because they let the tigers lose tigers like America. Now keep in mind this was native country for tigers saber tool baggers. The last Ice Age we were tiger country here, and tigers are genuine man eaters. There's a real deal when it comes to chopping on as I just was, whichever one it was Siegfried or Roy Africa, which one it was they got chomped people doing stupid things like sticking doing Tiger shows, which was a really dumb idea. Sorry, it was, um, people getting chopped. My tigers is a really thing and interesting fact. In what country do most of the world's Tigers live
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the U. S.
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The U. S. But people don't know that we have more tigers in this country than anywhere else in the world. I think about that for a minute. Think the stuff hits the fan and somebody lets these things loose.
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Yeah, we've got a big cat rehabilitation place not too far from where we live, and I don't trust those fences would hold the animals if the animals started getting really hungry. Who have been to zoos. When I forget where the ones he was, we're better at hands. Us. Yeah, it was one of the Kansas is, and we were walking by the tiger enclosure and there's the Tigers, and there's this eight foot toll fence with the inward leaning wire on top. Okay,
spk_1: 31:51
really enough to stop a tiger. But
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then there's a four foot tall rock
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sitting right next to the that's
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located within 10 feet of the fence and
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you can't jump. Yeah, and interestingly, this was just a rumor visiting us just after a tiger jumped out of the Cincinnati. I believe since Manny one of the zoo's I think what Cincinnati jumped out of the exhibit to chomp on the person who was taunting it.
spk_0: 32:19
Now it turns out that the enclosure had been that way for years and the Tigers had stayed put. No problem. But then some teenage boys decided it would be fun to start throwing things at the Tiger. And they were throwing a bunch of things and bouncing old shoes off the tiger and things like that. Tiger got annoyed, turned around, ran to the back of its enclosure where knew perfectly well that it could get out, jumped right out, ran around trying, grabbed one of the kids, killed him.
spk_1: 32:45
Hey, he knew he could make it. He knew so that touch it, that Tiger knew the whole time that he could get out of there. You know, here's the thing it may have. It may have gotten out there at night. It may have chose to return.
spk_0: 33:00
Yeah, I've seen you do that when they got out that go right back to their cages because that's where their food is and that's where they sleep.
spk_1: 33:09
So, yeah, it's a real thing, but anyway, tigers or Manu and I'm not gonna say you sit around, worry about tigers, but it's just something to keep in mind. A lot of the man eaters really aren't man eaters. Grizzly bears are not man eaters.
spk_0: 33:22
Not naturally. No, some of them will. Papa Human just because they're hungry,
spk_1: 33:26
you're much more likely to get mostly hurt by a grizzly bear if you try and mess with it. Or in truth, if you try and feed it or regularly feed it or go to areas where they lose their fear of man
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or mess with their cubs, that'll get
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you killed. Yeah, Tell your tell your cub story.
spk_0: 33:46
I was in there blind in Yellowstone, had happened once with black bears and once with Grizzlies. And they have these things called bear jams in Yellowstone, where somebody sees a bear and bears are so cool they want to stop, take a picture. But there's no pullout right where they are. So they stop in the middle of the road to take a picture. They fell around for five minutes, and then the people behind them see what's there, and they stop and start taking pictures. And pretty soon there was one bear jam. It took us an hour to get through because so many people had stopped and I will
spk_1: 34:20
have a picture of it. Yeah, but
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my picture is bad because it was taken through a windshield while we were moving, because Doc and I did not want to be that guy. And when we got to the place where you could actually see the bears, we didn't stop and take pictures of the bearers. We just drove on by. And I did my best quick shot through the window, which was turned out to be not bad, except both bears other butts to me. Well, but anyway,
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it was pretty bad. I had to do a little post processing on that one. But anyway, doesn't matter, is she wasn't there to photograph pears? No, I had a camera in case there were bears, but she wasn't there to photograph pears,
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and I certainly
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running on the road.
spk_0: 35:08
Yes, sir. The little bugger. Right. Well, Cardinal, right over there and
spk_1: 35:11
guard were in absolute Amish country here, And I guarantee you these Amish people, I'm not at all upset that the body is not in their gardens.
spk_0: 35:21
Yeah, So people are stopping to take pictures. We gotta bear jam. And by the time we get up 21 of these bare jams. There's a whole bunch of people out of their cars on the side of the road, and we get out there and I see why. About 25 yards in, there's a bear cub up a tree. And then there's another bear cub gamboling around on the ground, and it's pretty much the cutest thing ever. But where's Mama? You can't see. Don't see Mama, where you've got Bears cubs of that age. There's almost certainly Mama right around there. And there are people getting out of their cars and getting within 25 feet of the Cubs today.
spk_1: 36:06
Pictures up where Mom is.
spk_0: 36:07
They don't know where Mom is.
spk_1: 36:09
And I can tell you this. You think you cannot. Maybe you do. I don't know. You think you can outrun a bear? You can't outrun a bear. No way Mama wants you. You're gonna get chopped, period.
spk_0: 36:21
And it's not that she is necessarily going to try and kill you and eat you. She's when South attack people to protect their cubs. They generally just that's when you're supposed to play dead with a bear. Attack of a bear wants to eat. You playing dead does not help. But if a bear is attacking you because it's surprised or because it's defending itself, its cubs than playing dead often works. Because once you quit resisting, they figured they have accomplished their purpose and everything is safe now and they'll leave you being. Go on. But I have seen a bearer slap another bear.
spk_1: 36:58
Oh, yeah, that one. We saw you. Oh, it was
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just a little remen Ishan slap like a bad big cub. No, no biscuit. Kind of slap from one bear to another
spk_1: 37:12
it since it was hitting a grizzly bear. It was no big deal, but you're not a grizzly bear,
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But I would have been fined 23
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two inch thick skull
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20 yards through the air with a crushed skull. If I got hit like that, I saw the slab
spk_1: 37:26
like Whoa! Way both Can't We were both We were both watching this bear. We kind of looked at each other going
spk_0: 37:33
Hello? Those guys really slap when they slap s Oh, yeah. Even one casual get away from my cubs slap is pretty likely to be fatal to a human being. So don't be stupid. And disrespect him. Even if so, it's just a black bear kind of thing.
spk_1: 37:53
Black black bears have killed more people than grizzly bears. Who? They're not aggressive.
spk_0: 37:58
Very seldom killed people. Uh, even historically, they're very seldom killed people. That was basically only a winter. And they're desperate and they catch somebody kind of thing.
spk_1: 38:08
I will give you a caveat. Bulls very rarely killed people in North America. It was a really deal in Siberia, where there is no other food. Bull packs in Siberia killed a lot of people. But we're not in Siberia. So So Wow, the roads Really nice here. We must cross the state line in dialogue. Yeah, that, uh ah. Uh,
spk_0: 38:37
Where they really paved the roads. Uh, To be fair, they have a lot of your bridges rule lot fear bridges that Missouri. So they have more money to spend on their flat roads. Yes. So that's the deal. It's although the big predators are a thing and I would be cautious about him. The biggest thing with the big predators is not to surprise him and not to do stupid around him. I think that the feral dogs and coyotes and things will be a much bigger actual health risk.
spk_1: 39:09
And the rats?
spk_0: 39:11
Yeah. The disease transmission is absolutely the biggest thing.
spk_1: 39:17
Right. So are we good? You take this one out.
spk_0: 39:22
Don't get eaten by a bear. Always good advice.
spk_1: 39:25
All right, but