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Modern Mindfulness Podcast
Ep. 93 : Tarot Cards, Career Leaps, & Why Intuition Matters w Mary Jo Cranmore
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Tarot, life, intuition, clairvoyance, AI, and so much more in this special episode with Mary Jo Cranmore of Soulful Revolution.
While hosting her highly successful company and Youtube Channel, Soulful Revolution, Mary Jo has actually been at it for decades. With over thirty years experience with Tarot, she stepped into using her interests and gifts while exiting a career with Good Morning America, and other popular broadcast networks.
Now, as an Intuitive Astrologer and Spiritual Path healer, Mary Jo Cranmore helps people understand their mission in this life.
This conversation covers so many entertaining points like :
- what is tarot?
- how to use tarot cards
- why intuition matters
- how to cultivate your intuition
- making career shifts that honor your evolved Self
- piecing the life signs together
- and more!
ABOUT MARY JO CRANMORE :
Mary Jo is also passionate about connecting the dots astrology lays before us and how we can use that information to create true and lasting happiness. By revealing a person’s life purpose using the tools of Astrology, Tarot & Numerology, Mary Jo believes that armed with that awareness, people become unstoppable.
Mary Jo’s own life dramatically changed as a result of using these tools of awareness. A Tarot reader, Numerology enthusiast and Intuitive Astrologer for more than 25 years, she has integrated these disciplines together into a method of understanding deep-rooted patterns and truths that light up each seeker’s path forward. Her own journey of trial and error became a roadmap to success, once she pieced together her life purpose.
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Rebekka Mars: All right. So welcome back to the modern mindfulness, podcast I'm your guide here, Rebekka Mars. And today I have a very special guest. Mary Jo Cranmore. Hello, Mary Jo! Hello, Rebekka! How are you? Hey? I am doing pretty well here on a Monday, cloudy California day, and I am just so tickled to get to chat with you. So yeah, how are you?
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Rebekka Mars: Me, too? I'm so glad to be here. It's a bright, sunny day in Maine, you know. And actually, we're like, why is it so bright and sunny? We we don't usually get sun in February, so I'll take it. Oh, I like it cross country chat here. Okay, well, I'm gonna read just a little blurb about you, and then we'll get to it. So Mary Jo, as an intuitive astrologer in spiritual path healer.
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Rebekka Mars: She helps people understand their mission mission in this life. She is passionate about connecting the dots. Astrology lays before us, and how we can use that information to create true and lasting happiness by revealing a person's life purpose, using the tools of astrology, Tarot and numerology. Mary Jo believes that, armed with that awareness, people become unstoppable.
Rebekka Mars: Mary Jo's own life dramatically changed. As a result of using these tools of awareness, a terra reader, numerology, enthusiast and intuitive astrologer. For more than 25 years she has integrated these disciplines together into a method of understanding deep-rooted patterns and truths that light up each seeker's path forward.
Rebekka Mars: Her own journey of trial and error became a roadmap to success. Once she pieced together her life purpose, using the discoveries of the roots of patterns combined with the karmic path. Each of us here is to walk. Life not only makes sense, but becomes an exciting challenge. The program Mary Jo has developed brings the future into sharp focus. She's now seen the joy in this clarity for hundreds of clients for the first time in their lives. They know who they are and what they are here to achieve. Okay.
Rebekka Mars: that's amazing. Yeah, I could keep going. Of course, Bios are always like just such a small part of who you are and what you want to bring to the world. But
Rebekka Mars: without further ado, officially officially welcome in, and as I was sharing before we got started. I really wanna go into taro with you today. I've never had anyone on the show in the 5 years now, 4 years into the fifth talk about taro. And that's how I first found you on Youtube a few years ago, and as I was also sharing with you, just so the guests know when Mary Jo kind of recirculated into my inbox in December. I kinda couldn't believe it, because she is someone who I felt like she was talking just to me through Youtube. I'm sure we've all had that experience with people on Youtube. It's like, Oh, my gosh, she's pulling cards just for me, and it really changed my relationship to Taro first of all. And it also reminded me of just the power of all these types of tools that we have. So anyway, could we start with even something so basic. And we'll talk more about you personally. But let's just kick it off with like, what is taro for those listening that maybe I've seen the word. It looks like tarot terat. But taro, yeah, what is it?
Soulful Revolution: Tarot is
an archetypal system. Yeah, it's a deck of cards. Yeah, nobody really knows for sure where it came from. But fourteenth, fifteenth century and actually, they started using playing cards as a way of concealing. This methodology of understanding life.
Soulful Revolution: I think it got a little bit off track when people started to, you know. Call it out for being like some kind of you know. Prognosticator. And this is your future and the death card, and all this kind of stuff like it started becoming
a little scary for people. And of course, it wasn't something that was mainstream until
the 70's really feel like 1970 S. Things opened up with a lot of these tools that you that we're talking about and tarot for me is really an archetypal journey through life. It's the things that we all experience the major arcana. There's 2 pieces to the tarot, there's the major arcana and the minor arcana, actually 3 pieces, because there's the court cards, which is slightly different. The major arcana is the big experiences we have death, marriage, birth, illness. love success, failure. You know these big giant kind of experiences that we all ex, that we all live through, and we witness them through the experience we've had up until now, including past life, including trauma, you know just everything. And so that colors that experience for us. So the minor arcana is like just day to day kind of process.
And so the core cards are. People can be people, or they can be facets of us. And when you're doing a tarot reading.
Soulful Revolution: If you look at the entire reading, even if there's lots of people, kings and queens and pages and stuff in those readings. If you first. The first layer of it is, this is all me.
because you're manifesting. You are a 360 degree being, and your energy is what is showing up for you in this life as a manifester. You know this right? So you're you're in this energy, a queen of swords. And if you're in the shadow of the Queen of Swords, meaning the more negative parts. Then you're
skewering people with your words all the time.
But if you're in the positive aspect or the light aspect of the Queen of Swords. What you're really doing is telling truth from the heart.
So these 2 things exist in all of us. All of these things exist in all of us, and when you do a terror reading, you're looking at the the entirety of the spread you're looking at, are there a ton of major arcana cards here? Cause that means this is a big deal.
Or if there's a lot of people, okay, maybe we need to sort through that. And if it's I got a reading for myself this morning, I do one every single day for myself.
And it was like process.
And I was like.
Soulful Revolution: Okay, like, that's what I need to know today is that life is life is about one step at a time building block at a time, you know. One interview at a time, one terror reading at a time, and all of that. So that's what Tara was. It's an archetypal system of how we live our lives cool. Yeah. So it's not always gonna be. I like that. You brought in your progress reading today. It's not always gonna be like, here is your life path and your destiny. And this is your biggest challenge. And like.
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Rebekka Mars: sure that. But also
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Rebekka Mars: just every day. Yeah, that. And right? So we can. We can look at things that like, yes. I have to go to the dentist, and I have to make dinner, and I have to do things in the midst of major things going on in the world, in the midst of things happening in my family life in the midst of me meeting. Maybe a new person, or, you know, like all this stuff is happening all at once.
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Rebekka Mars: Recently, especially, I know I have friends who are not even into, you know. I call it woo woo just playfully, but you know the Wu stuff. But all of a sudden they have a card deck, and it feels like a great gateway for people to get into spiritual stuff. So yeah, you you're nodding like you agree to that, is it? Does it work that way, I mean, and also, how does Terra work? So say, like, I'm thinking of one of my friends, not into this stuff at all, but she got a deck, so she like has fun just pulling the card. And now she it's you know, it's like
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Rebekka Mars: she just. I don't know what she thinks is happening, but so are the maybe the people out there who have Dex, and they're kind of getting into it. Could you tell them like, well, so what is happening when you just like? Do these card draws all the different ways you can use taro
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Soulful Revolution: right? I think the most beneficial way to understand and use Tarot is as an empowerment tool. So most for me. My philosophy is with Tarot is like garbage in garbage out. If you're not asking a particular specific question. If you're just like throwing cards out there, it's not going to empower or help you, you know, fix anything or figure something out, or whatever
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Soulful Revolution: a lot of it is really about asking a good question. So what you might want to ask if you, you know, every morning, if you do a tarot reading for yourself, or you know just messing around you, just you know it's fine. It's fine. You're not violating some karmic law. Okay? So it's fine to just be curious. That is actually the best mindset for learning taro, or any kind of thing is just being curious about it.
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Soulful Revolution: playing around with it. You can pull, you know. You can ask, what do I need to know today about this situation, or what do I just need to know about today?
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Soulful Revolution: And
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Soulful Revolution: then you can add, then you can pull 3 cards past, present, future. You can pull 3 cards, or just one card, even.
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Soulful Revolution: just pull one card. What do I need to know about dealing with my mother today?
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Soulful Revolution: What do I need to know about this meeting I'm gonna have later today. So make it practical for yourself. And you know, you can get more. You see these like, you know. And I use a big spread and and blah blah, blah, okay? But like
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Soulful Revolution: that is going to confuse you. And when you're using your intuition when you're when you're using a tool like Tarot. Your job is clarity.
Your job is giving yourself a shot at getting an answer instead of just ugh! Fire hose of stuff. because then that brings more confusion. And that's not what it's meant to do. Umhm. I like that. Thanks for explaining in a simple way. I know when I watch you, too. You've got these numerous stacks, and I never thought of using more than one. But you know at the beginning. Well, so you know I never had a deck until found. You listen to you. And then a friend random randomly gifted me my first card deck, and now I have several, and so sometimes I do, though, get a couple out. But if someone out there is brand new to this concept, and maybe they have have a deck, or don't, or use some online. And like an app, there's apps now. And because I trust that energy is energy, that those work, too. But yeah, it's keep it simple. Keep it super clean. Get more familiar with just like any sort of like you're playing the piano. You're not just gonna sit down and whip out some wild, you know. Multi line music. You're gonna keep it simple.
Soulful Revolution: Learn. And what you're you're asking, too, about like, how does it work? I mean, yeah.
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Soulful Revolution: one of the things that's most interesting to me. And II gotta tell you this is 30 years on. Now. I started learning when I was just out of college, I think, and
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in 1990
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Soulful Revolution: 85, No. 87 88, long time ago, really, long time ago. It's more than 30 years, anyway. When I started first learning this.
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I am still blown away every single day by
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Soulful Revolution: I'm asking a question about a particular situation, that I have no business knowing rationally or logically, about any of this.
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Soulful Revolution: and in the Western world our minds are so strong. Our you and you know this from mindfulness, of course, that our thinking, our logic, our fear, our anxieties, all of that just swamps, this voice, this inner knowing
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Soulful Revolution: and self. Doubt is the number one killer of intuition. So the tools of the deck it works. In that you are open.
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Soulful Revolution: You have a beginner's mind. You are curious. Your job is to set aside. You think 24 h. Stay all the time. Can you just set it aside for a second
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Soulful Revolution: and be curious about? What do I need to feel on feel, or what do I? What am I feeling about this, or what do I need to know about this, like knowing is a mind function fair enough.
But there's sometimes when I do a spread. And I'm like.
like today for the morning message for tomorrow.
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Soulful Revolution: I know we're not seeing you're not hearing this podcast. In the real time that I'm saying this. But it happens so often, I feel comfortable that even if you don't hear this for a long time. Sometimes, when I do, a spread and a story will come out, and I'm like I did not see that coming.
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Soulful Revolution: This was completely and only by being open and curious. If you go into a spread going, and this happens.
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I am terrified that this person is going to break up with me.
I am afraid of getting fired. I am I got. I gotta get into Ucla like. If you're doing that. Then what you're doing is you're cutting off the actual wisdom because the thing is
okay. I want to know, after all, this time of reading, Tara, I want to know.
I wanna know. So I wanna know what the energy vibration is. Right now, people can make choices. We have free will. People can make decisions, choices, things beyond our control. All of that.
I can only handle me. So I want to know what I'm dealing with. I wanna know what I'm dealing with, and then I can make choices from that.
Soulful Revolution: But if I'm like no, no, no, no! Just show me the 20 cups and the 10 of cups with this person. Your deck will make fun of you if you do that like. You keep asking about this person over and over and over again. I know, cause I did this, and you keep wanting to get this particular story.
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Soulful Revolution: Eventually the deck will go fine.
Here you go. and that's what's known as trickster energy.
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Soulful Revolution: Because you do that. And the world, the universe the the energetic expression of no, no, no!
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Soulful Revolution: Will bring you tower moments. That's how tower moments happen. That's when you
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Soulful Revolution: see that that that guy that you want the 10 of cups with is really talking with your friend.
That's when you see it, because, like, there's the information will not get in any other way.
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Soulful Revolution: So the universe is saying fair enough.
Soulful Revolution: You don't want another narcissistic husband. Go back, go back and swipe left swipe left whatever you're gonna find, you're gonna find the same experience.
Rebekka Mars : So a tower moment is almost like like a cosmic 2 by 4 like. But again, like you're not, gonna listen to the cards. And then still, you can't avoid the truth, basically is what I'm feeling like. No, we run away from it all the time, and you know sometimes you'll see it. You'll see it. You'll know it is your intuition knows, and then your mind goes.
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Soulful Revolution: I must be reading this wrong or I'm this is this is not. And so basically what I when I teach Tara what I'm asking for is curiosity openness to the answer.
And then my favorite thing to do. And this happens sometimes when the readings are really terrible. I'm like.
what if anything, can I do if I hate this right? Like I'm getting this storyline like me, empower yourself wh I'm looking at. It's like Death tower tennis, or it's just all this awful stuff.
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Soulful Revolution: But there's light at the 10 of sorts. It's like it's not going to get any worse than this, you know there's positive. So I'm a Sagittarius. So of course you know, everything has to have a positive spin on it. But what if anything can I do if I don't like this?
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Soulful Revolution: If this doesn't work for me, if I'm scared of this or am, I'm
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Soulful Revolution: you know, feeling like that's, gonna you know, really send me into a depression. Or this is, gonna what can I do?
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Soulful Revolution: What if anything can I do? Maybe I can't do anything.
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Rebekka Mars: You know, there are certain karmic paths that we have to walk.
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Rebekka Mars: and that's just the truth. So yeah, I was, gonna say, the truth hurts. And I always like to say hurts. But the truth it can sting like that's that's the way it works. Yeah, but the only the truth will also prevail, and all the things that
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Rebekka Mars: cool. Yeah, that have been said about truth. So
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Rebekka Mars: sorry delivery. It's okay. No dog barking because of a squirrel.
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Soulful Revolution: They're te. You've seen them. They're teeny, tiny. And so
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Soulful Revolution: okay, please don't. Marking forever. Okay.
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Rebekka Mars: sorry it was needed. There's some something happened in there. No, I like, so did you hear them, or just hear me? No? Well, I heard that like a growl. Sort of Barkley growl
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Rebekka Mars: like, what was that like? Oh, it's delivery time scroll time. It's so great. Funny. Okay? Well, so I'm also curious about so with Taro.
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Rebekka Mars: And I'm hearing you say it's like our own intuition. And I do believe that there is this field that we are when we tap into spirit. It's also like you'd mentioned putting aside, I'm thinking, like putting aside the thinking, but also, like the human part of us for a moment. Like all the human Western mind conditioning and really open up to our own spiritual connection. So is that that's what's helping to funnel what shows up in the cards? Are we also link to our spirit guides in that our ancestors like, what is this energy that's helping us actually draw these cards?
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Soulful Revolution: So it's you, okay. So there's what I want people to understand. And I this year in path finders. I'm really. I have a group of this amazing folks who are part of a Wednesday weekly
call that we do that I do, and then I'm teaching them about intuition.
And one of the things that I have learned in all these years of reading is that that being open piece. But what's what's happening is when you're being open and curiosity in your curiosity mindset, you're connected to your high self
when you're in that space. So you prepare yourself. You sort of ground yourself. You you connect into that openness because what does happen
is that you look through the lens of your trauma, you can look through the lens of your own experience. So there's reasons for it. But what you're doing is you're really tapping into your intuition. That says.
that's the thing I'm seeing that story. That's the thing
I've gotten used to. The idea of looking at a spread. And I just know what the story is.
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Soulful Revolution: and that's practice. It's just practice, as you know, from mindfulness through Yoga. All of these kinds of connectivity kind of exercises are about practice.
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Soulful Revolution: right? And so I can just click right in. I've clicked right into my intuition. I'm open to it. I'm curious. I'm putting out the spread. What's really happening is my energetic energetic connection is asking for that story it shows up in the cards do you see what I'm saying so I'll be. I'll be shuffling, and I'll be working through it. I know when to stop shuffling. I feel a little thing in my chest. I hear a little music, and when the music stops I stop right like that's intuitive. I'm clear audience. So that's part of my own experience. I will say that I noticed
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Soulful Revolution: when I was reading Tarot, I was first really just focused on my own intuition. That's the part of connecting myself to my high self.
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Soulful Revolution: Then I recognized I had these 2 guides show up. Because I was so clicked in. I was so aware of of my own voice right, my own intuitive voice, and my own high selves. I feel the frequency of it. I know what it feels like
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Soulful Revolution: right? I know what that feels like. And then there was another feeling.
It was like another gear, and I was like. What's that?
Soulful Revolution: And so I have these 2 guides, Isaac and Isabel, and that really only happens after you kind of practice. I feel like people who sit down and go. Okay. I'm gonna meet my guides like sure.
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Soulful Revolution: but build a practice right, build a practice. You also have to protect yourself because there's lots of energy floating around that isn't meant for your highest good. My practice is when I sit down, and I click in only messages that are meant for my best and highest good are allowed in only messages that are meant in love. So that doesn't mean everything is positive in sugary and woo, woo, and all of that. It doesn't mean fairy dust and unicorns are coming out in every single reading. It means that the messages that are coming through are are coming from love and dark energies. Don't do that, shtick.
They click into your fear. They click into your anxiety, you know. Fear contorts you. It also makes you smaller. It puts you in a crunch. It puts you in like a crouch state, and it brings
Soulful Revolution: it scuttles your thinking. It makes it like I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Intuition is light. It opens up it. It brings clarity.
It's just like that. Oh, yeah.
I knew that I knew that was going to happen like, there's just there's no emotion there, but like when you're in fear, it's this.
it's kind of like spiky, and it's sticks at you, and it's like the words are like. Should you do that? You shouldn't do that? You shouldn't do that right. There's that feeling to it. Real real intuition is like almost like fairy godmother energy. It's like lighter and open and clear. There's not no shrillness to it, it's quiet, it mine is very, very much. This like peaceful baseline of like, yeah, that's what's going on. This is what's going on. And when you finally click into the higher guides
Soulful Revolution: and you can call on ascended masters, you call on these folks, these folks, these they are folks to me. Anyway, you call on them
and you start. Ha! This is like 2 way thing. You're not. You're not any kind of anointed special person to talk to Mary Magdalene. You could do that. You could call on Jesus if you wanted to. You could call on. Archangel Michael, you can. All of these kinds of Very powerful energies are available to everybody.
Soulful Revolution: and I just asked that you do your protection? I asked, that you do your I mean, we are in Saturn and Pisces right now, baby, for 2 more years do a spiritual practice. Now that is what's being asked of us.
and you want to open up to Mary Magdalene because you've always felt a an affinity there, then do it.
Soulful Revolution: then do it.
Soulful Revolution: Use your cards. See what comes through if nothing comes through. Thank you very much. I'll try again tomorrow.
Soulful Revolution: I just keep going.
Rebekka Mars: Yeah.
Rebekka Mars: Hmm, yes.
Rebekka Mars: cheers, no, but all of that.
Soulful Revolution: Yeah, I'm gonna shut this cause. They can see this squirrel hold on 1 s. Okay. I see you guys working at this world. And I'm not. I'm not interested. It's not amusing to me anymore.
Soulful Revolution: Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna help, but we'll see alright. So I'll be even more curious. And
what's the other side of the curtain?
We know that.
Rebekka Mars: Oh, I know. Yes, okay, so it as you were saying, Yeah, spiritual practice time for sure. And that's really what I tried to do on the show, too. It's like, Okay, we've got Sarah, you know. I've got yoga. I got meditation. We got all these different practices. And so it's like, find something that helps you feel a little more tapped into what you already are. But what's available to us all. And I really appreciate you sharing like nothing elitist or anything like we all have chance to like tap into intuition and see what happens.
Soulful Revolution: I think there's a lot of people, and probably who do what I do, that they want some kind of air of mystery around it. And so it's like some kind of special person, whatever. I didn't learn how to do general readings until after, you know. Just recently, before, right before I started doing the channel I was like, oh, I see, I'm tapping into this energy and it's the same thing as if you're tapping into a person that you're reading, for it's really the same thing. It's an intentionality. And II tapping into Gemini, or I'm tapping into Capricorn or something like that.
Soulful Revolution: Yeah.
Rebekka Mars: yeah. But anyway, sorry. Yeah, no, it's great. And I've I think I've always been into channeling. I grew up with parents that were into all of this, and but it wasn't until the recent years where I realized how how into it I was. And so I'm wondering if you like. You mentioned Claire. I can't remember which one you mentioned. Could you share a little bit more about channeling? And also, I believe that it's something we all can learn to do through a lot of the same steps you just mentioned with taro. But how does channeling fit into some of this, or how is it connected?
Soulful Revolution: I didn't realize how much I channel in my life until I started to go. What is channeling, and how do I learn how to do it? And then I was like, oh, I'm doing it. So I've been a writer since I was a little person, a very you know, little 6, 7, 8, 9, when I was learning to write I would write stories, and I would do all these things, and I would have all these pictures, and had a rich, fantasy life as a kid and
Soulful Revolution: Then I would be writing poetry in high school and college, and I was, you know, very in very, into literature, very into stories.
Soulful Revolution: And I was recognizing that I was. I was. It was like coming out of me
like, I was kind of, okay, this is the story, or this is the assignment. But then, like something would take over, and I would just write these sentences. I would just be like it'd be like physical to me. And I was like, Oh, my God, what is this? So later on, when I started really doing Tarot and using these tools more and more. I started recognizing that I would be
Soulful Revolution: a whole thing. A whole little side bar, a whole little story would start forming, and I would just kind of go with it. I'm Clair audience.
which means it's like I'm hearing, with my inner ears rather than my physical ears, although I have been awakened in the night with like a bang, or my name being said, even if I'm very into something on the computer. I remember hearing my name behind me one time, and there was nobody there. Kind of thing. So I'm like there's hearing, but clear audio for me is like my inner ears like my spiritual ears, and I hear
I asked myself a question, and I hear the answer in words, I don't really hear music. I don't really see pictures. I'm not very clairvoyant, actually, which is odd, because II feel like I'm I was a filmmaker and everything like that. But I'm not. I'm clairvant. And it actually it got me through college cause like I could literally take in
Soulful Revolution: auditory. And I could replay conversations back to myself. It's all like part of it. And that's how I got through college. I was like, what did he say about about start? What did he say about Van Gogh. What did he say? Right? And so then I could do the test. I mean, that's a little weird thing I do. But
Soulful Revolution: it was very helpful in in in my understanding about channeling that.
Soulful Revolution: What I'm doing here is I'm channeling through information that's coming because I'm asking. And because I'm listening
Rebekka Mars: right? You are getting it all the time.
Soulful Revolution: People are thinking they're walking around like, okay, I've got to go to some ashram in order to have intuition working for me.
but it's working all the time.
Soulful Revolution: It's working all the time. You just may not be listening for it.
Rebekka Mars: Yeah, right? Is that your experience, too, for sure. Yeah, well, not. And more so, and just observing it, and other people where I think and I forget all the different Claire things. But I've all, even just this. Last year I met a woman who helped me. She didn't really feel the connection till she lost a couple of loved ones, her brother and someone else passed, and then her connection right away, and she was getting direct messaging, and I was telling her that. But I feel like when I hear people talk about their ability to channel, or whatever that I'm like. Well, that's what I have. But II never realized there were different ways of understanding. And mine's more of this really strong, intuitive feel, even when it's about other people and things. So it's more of just a a gut.
But then I'm like, Well, how does that vary? But it wasn't until I just heard enough examples. And then it was like ding. Oh, yeah. Well, this is me. Oh, my gosh, well, why don't I just own this a little bit? And so I use it when I work with people. I use it all, I mean. So it's it's just until you're ready. And so for me, it was also a readiness. It was until I really I mean, I live a pretty mindful life. But I definitely also have had chapters of chaos and whatever. And so I think those those waves I really had to surf and learn and get stronger through and clear out. And and then, when the student was ready, the teacher appeared. Sort of thing, and so I've been able to really, in the last few years, more than ever, really just take that in. But yeah, it's like people. II see it in clients and people I meet and Yoga students, and I think they've got to get to this place to here. It's like
Soulful Revolution: you can do this anytime. Now you can do this anytime, and the channeling piece like I didn't realize that's what I was doing. I thought that was. I thought that was something that everybody did all the time. Everybody can do it.
Soulful Revolution: But II didn't realize until I was in a in kind of a more of a group setting like in college, a group setting where I was. We were doing creative things. We're doing storytelling, and it was like an improv thing where you had to riff off another person.
Soulful Revolution: And for me that just lit me up because I was just like, Wow, I it was just coming through me cause. I was so present in the moment to your point about mindfulness, so present cause. When you're doing improv, you have to be right on what they're saying and be in the conversation being present. It's not even repeating back lines, right? It's like you've got to be there.
Soulful Revolution: So I started to recognize what it felt like.
Soulful Revolution: And I think that's the thing for people to understand their own system
is, understand what it feels like to get an intuitive hit.
Soulful Revolution: What's the frequency of when I'm meditating an auditory Clare audience comes through me. What's the frequency of that? What do I feel like? And I think that is the bigger challenge for people that they're cut off from those feelings.
And so I wanna channel. But like that first step is like you've gotta be. You've gotta be. And that's a hard one for me, too, because I'm a lot of air and fire. So I'm water and feelings and stuff has been the biggest learning of my life.
Rebekka Mars: Yeah.
Rebekka Mars: you're right on theme of what I have asked. Well, yesterday asked a yoga class. This, and I've observed, been teaching for over 15 years now. And so it's like, I see. Yeah, I, this is very true from my base knowledge here of lots and lots of Yoga teaching, but Yogi's are better feelers. And so I was just chatting, chatting with the class about that. So really, just give them permission to own the fact that they are more sensitive, and that, I see it in them. And then I talk to people who are not practicing any sort of mindfulness. Yoga meditation whatever. You know all of it.
and they are more cut off from feeling anything. And then I do somatic work as well. And it's you really have to learn how to feel, to get into some deeper realms of your own energy type of thing. So it's all kind of compounding here and in my personal work. But it's like yes to being able to feel, but because of like look the trouble lens that people might be viewing the world through, or, you know, past stuff. So until they're able to get through some of these things to actually feel.
then the intuition will also make more, maybe quote sense once they can feel it. But you've got to figure out how. How is my relationship to feeling things? And maybe that's where the first step is right, absolutely. And you know, there's a ton of things to get in the way there's our identity. Who do we think we are?
Soulful Revolution: you know, I used to work for good morning, America and Nbc news. And I used to have a video marketing business. And this is the identity I created and all that kind of stuff. And so I went, Hi, Naisi. And so I went to to be on Youtube because it was fun.
Soulful Revolution: It was like it just opened up for me. I just really enjoyed it. I had all the tools, and I just loved doing it, and I love doing taro. And so it just kind of like
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Soulful Revolution: naturally opened up in me that
there was. I had to throw away the old identity. and I remember the moment it happened. I remember the moment it happened that I was like, I am no longer that. and it really did open everything up.
When I got rid of that identity. I thought I was supposed to have
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Rebekka Mars: Well, you kinda you read my mind, or we maybe you literally read my mind. So I did want to bring that off of just your personal story. So I really appreciate
humans, especially ones like you, that you have lived the other life. And you've lived very much in our, you know Western world. And you've done a lot of these kind of 3D things. And and here you are doing this now, and could you share it about like? Was there a direct moment? Was it sort of this long time coming? I don't know. Had you retired. Were you in between like, how did you step into soulful revolution? And what was that kind of human journey like for you?
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Soulful Revolution: It's well, it's interesting. Even the name soulful revolution has come back to me in intuitive hits over the years of just doing this. I started this channel in 2,017 in October, and between 2008, when Pluto ingress into the Capricorn, and threw the banks off a cliff for everybody
and completely turned my life upside down in that 8 years. I fought it and fought it, and fought it and fought it and finally I got to a place where I had no choice to. I was really like, at the end of my rope end of my tether with any kind of work, opportunities, any kind of money opportunities, any kind of anything.
And I was single. I had just ejected myself from a very toxic relationship.
and, like everything, was going to completely disappear. It was. It was circling the drain, and everything was going to disappear in my life, everything I had thought I had built or thought I wanted to build and I had a couple of friends in different parts of my life.
Soulful Revolution: Look at me in the face which you know you're talking to friends like how many, how many friends like? Look you right in the face.
and
just different intervals over the course of a summer
and said, I think you should do something else.
and not even be specific about it. I think you should do something else.
and at first I was insulted, and then I was like, Are you kidding me? Look at what's going on. This is not working.
and in the summer of that year I went to a friend for advice.
She was an attorney, and I went to her for advice. And she said, Okay, I'm gonna take all of this problems, all these problems away from you.
And this is what I want you to do. And she freed me. and she gave me a lot of hope. and I walked out of her office, and it was a July day, and it was a parking lot, not nothing beautiful about this place and I just felt the air was, I knew, like I could tell you what temperature it was because of my senses. The sky was so blue, everything I could smell the tar I could everything about that moment, walking out of her office, I felt completely liberated.
It was almost like my inner child was like. cool. What do you wanna do? Let's let's go with the beach right like there was just this weight lifted off me.
and I don't remember like for the next couple of weeks. I know I had one more project to do a video project, and it was in Dallas, and I was in Dallas, and I was so drained by this work by doing behind the scenes, television and behind the scenes marketing. I was so drained and I didn't realize that I was supposed to be in front of the camera
until this until I did this
and so I came out of her office, and I was like, this is, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna enjoy myself. So when I'm in Dallas, I'm you know, having fun. And I'm doing my video work and everything. And someone emailed me a copy of this New York Times article about how Tarot was huge on Youtube. And I was like.
Soulful Revolution: what is that even about? And so I went onto Youtube. And II found a couple of people that I liked, and I watched them. And I was like.
Soulful Revolution: Oh, I do that. What are you talking about? I know I do that all the time. And so I came home. And I was like, I'm gonna try this.
I'm just going to mess around. It's it's a hobby. I've had it since I was in college. It's a hobby. And
so I started doing readings, and I know I've been. I knew I was good at readings because I did in individually for a long time, and so I was like, All right, and I know I teach people how to be on camera in the other parts of my life. So let's do that.
And so I just started putting up videos. The first ones are still there. If you wanna go look at them with my big giant Mac and the terrible camera go for it right like. But so I just started putting them up.
And my lawyer friend was actually a bankruptcy lawyer.
because I was like that close to the bone. I didn't even want to admit it to myself, but once I once I came out of there, I was like, you know, this could really go either way. Right now.
I could really go down this spiral
and into a depression, and into something, or I could be like my inner child was like, Yeah, let's go to the beach. Let's do something awesome.
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And I came home from Dallas, and I started making videos. And
my my friend, whose lawyer said, Come back at Thanksgiving, and we'll file the papers in January, and I knew what she was saying to me.
and so I just started putting up videos and everything like that. And people started watching. And people started watching, and people started watching. And it the Channel got, you know, to a place where I was like. I can see
Soulful Revolution: how this works financially, and I will be happy to outline that for anybody who wants to listen. But like, how this works like, how do you? That's the first question people ask me about Youtube. They're like, How does this even work? So I could see. And I went back to Kara at Thanksgiving. And I'm like we're not gonna have to do this.
Soulful Revolution: Within 6 months I had gotten rid of any and all debt. I had done everything that I wanted to do that I was having trouble with. I cleared all of that. I'm like, no, I want to do this, I incurred this debt. I want to clear this. And so I did.
And then they just kept growing and growing. And we do classes and all this other stuff. So it was.
I can't believe. Sometimes you look back. You're like how close to the edge was I at that moment?
Rebekka Mars: Oh.
Soulful Revolution: seriously.
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Rebekka Mars: And here you are. Here we are. And here, yeah.
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Rebekka Mars: golly, yeah, thank you for sharing that. I know that has inspired
plenty of people out there just listening to that part of this interview today, And I really always enjoy hearing that where it's, you know, we go back and we talk about the hard point in life, and then we can. It just seems like life was preparing you to and like your big scheme of life, and I know that your your intuitive things gift skills you tapped into a realize they were present much further back than that. Even. It's like Whoa like zoom out and look at the life you've been living, and just whatever has been guiding you along, or like even letting you learn about camera work, and all of that through that first lifetime quote I call lifetimes within this lifetime, you know, and then every single skill. I am one of the few people who is used every single thing I learned in college, every single skill. I have crude in marketing. Pr media television production, every single thing is getting used.
Rebekka Mars: Yeah, that's so cool.
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Rebekka Mars: Yeah. And and that doesn't mean that everybody else's. Every single thing needs to be used type of thing. But for you, specifically, this is just so so cool to hear. Yeah, do you feel like, have you always been living? And we probably could have a whole, or talk about many other things, but like living on purpose, like when now that you're doing this, does it feel like this? Is purpose? Or do you still feel like everything you have done has been right in line with you, living your purpose.
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Soulful Revolution: This feels different to me. When I was working in television when I was working in like when I was working for Nbc. Or whatever I remember telling somebody what I was doing. And they were like, Wow, cool. I'm like, yeah. Sounds cooler than it is. And then I knew I was like, oh, if that's the best part of this, I'm stopping doing this because it's not really as cool as you think it is.
not for me, anyway. And II feel like there's a huge shift, because I know that I spend a lot of time walking around the grocery store going. Okay.
Soulful Revolution: Now, this Pluto class that we're gonna do. And oh, my God, this would be such a good idea. I gotta call colleen. And oh, my God! Like what right I spend! I wake up at 5, 4, 35. I get Charlie outside, and I spent 3 h doing my meditation and doing, and any ideas that were coming to me. I have notebook after notebook after notebook. This is my latest one. You know that I keep all of my readings in for myself any time of classes I take. I'm keeping all of the notes, and I have a huge library of stuff, and it's a I feel very in the flow of it. I never have a Sunday night freak out. I don't like. I don't really know what day it is like every day, you know, and we were at a thing yesterday. Colleen, my friend Colleen. We were at a little a little music thing yesterday, and this guy I was talking to had been at, you know, some company for like 35 years, or whatever, and he like literally knew how many days was going to be until he retired.
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Soulful Revolution: And I was like in my head. I was like, I hope you get those days. Those days are meaningful in between.
you know. And so. But that's a mentality, right? That's a very threed mentality. And so I don't. I'm not criticizing anybody for that like that's totally real. I have been there in that space and he was saying something about like, you know, when I retire, I'm gonna do this. I'm I wanna go do. He does a lot of mountain climbing, or whatever. And I was just listening to him, and I looked at Colleen, and I was just like, I think we're retired, because I think this is what, she's a very good friend. She and her husband live about a mile away from me. We met each other like 15 years ago, and I'm like, Wow, I think we're retired. I think this is I mean this is what everyone's counting down for this type of life that we live. Yeah, oh, that's so good. Oh, that had to feel so good, too, to just really receive that that reality for yourself. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah. Oh, man, well.
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Rebekka Mars: there's astrology. There's numerology. There's like so many other layers. But I also feel like I wanna just honor so much that we've covered. And this has probably been a lot for some people to digest just in in this. I could talk about this stuff for days and days, and
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Rebekka Mars: but just to keep it digestible, gotta wind it, wind it up, wrap it up here, but kind of like what you just mentioned about about the guy counting down the days which I'm I. Yeah, I've had that season as well. I probably have one part of my life in living in that way, too, right now. So it's all good, and that is kind of like the the modern
humanity thing that we're in. And so then I like to insert mindfulness. However, I can, and you do too. And so what is, if you were to think of one statement, one reason like, what is, what is the top reason for everyone to find a mindfulness practice? Why is modern mindfulness important for people today in our in our culture era.
Soulful Revolution: we're moving into the age of Aquarius
and the age of Aquarius is about tech.
It's also about something that is for the collective right? It's swimming around us.
right technology and the Internet. And AI is one of those things that we must be connected to our humanity, or we will never know what's real and what's not.
Soulful Revolution: You know. It seems to me in my own travels that now
much different than I was and I've always considered myself a fairly intuitive person. But even in the last 10 years I'm much more like.
Soulful Revolution: Oh, wow! Staying away from that person, not doing that, not going there, not even interested in that. I want that that person is sparkly. I want to be. I wanna hang with that person. And I feel like those are the important mile markers are signposts for us to start to get used to as the more important things than just like these little glimmers of like. Oh, I think that I think that guy's shady, or I think that woman is lovely or whatever it is, it's like, no, these are that this is the way you're gonna navigate lifefrom now on.
Because if you look at everything that's going on. Media is very is very fractured. You know we've got tons of tribalism going on in every single thing you're looking at. There's you know you can tell in 2 sentences where someone's coming from these days, and everything like that. And I feel like mindfulness is important to keep you centred because you're doing the work. I don't really ever trust a reader or psychic, or anybody who's doing those kinds of readings who doesn't have a shadow work
process for themselves in order to recognize their own shadow and their own. You know how they're looking at the universe and how they're looking at what's going on. And I just feel like we have a big challenge ahead of us. because it's going to only get more and more.
It's only going to get better at fooling us into thinking it's real.
But there's a human frequency that we need to remember.
and mindfulness will get you there.
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Rebekka Mars: Hmm!
Is a great answer. We, as you said, Weird, answer me, give you weird answer. I haven't heard that one. You're you're right. It's weird in that way. And I think that was so great, so great and so true. Like, I enjoy technologies and things you do, too. You're on freaking Youtube all day. Yeah, but it's not losing yourself in in the technology. It's not losing like literally yourself, capital itself, like not losing yourself in this.
Soulful Revolution: All of it. That's going on right now. I will. I talk about this every once in a while on the Channel. But you know, in my former life. I had. Yeah, I know producers and and reporters and anchor people and pundits and lawyers and stuff like that from my old life on Twitter. I will always call it Twitter or Twitter. So it is like
you have to learn. You're going to have to learn where to get information. You're going to have to cultivate sources of information that align not only align with, understand the difference between a tribalist kind of alignment and a true alignment
right, a true alignment, and that is the thing that's going to help us navigate in the age of Aquarius. Because we are. It's air right. We're unmoored. we just came from Capricorn, where we're used to being in the 3D. Now, it's we're unmoored.
Yeah. So we're gonna have to find that. And you're gonna have to. It's gonna be
mindfulness practice. It's gonna be something that you're going to have to work at Saturn and Pisces for the next 2 years. This is the perfect time. Perfect time to do it.
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Rebekka Mars: You heard it here, everybody. It's time to to slow down for a few minutes a day at least. Get a card deck, get a journal whatever, just sit and stare at the wall. You know it's like.
just eliminate distraction and noise. However, you can. I think that's
yes part of the beginning of any of these things, too. It's like you gotta insert the pause and the time to tune out, to hear your own rhythms.
Soulful Revolution : Yeah, yeah, I have heard. I have heard people talking about AI so much, and in fact, I was listening to a really great astrologer that I love. Robert Ohotto! This morning. I think he's fantastic, and you know he was talking about AI, too, and I was. I was just like God, if you know, I think he says the same thing. If He if we don't, if we're not anchored in our intuition, it's gonna just blow us away, and I was walking, Charlie, after I heard him talking about this, and my neighbor works for one of the biggest AI guys in the country. I had no idea, no idea. And she was. She was like ready for Monday. And I'm like, What do you do again? And she told me I was like.
Soulful Revolution: Okay, wow! That's confirmation right there. And she's like, I can't. I literally cannot anchor myself in my day because it's so moving so fast like, I can't even get any traction. I was like, Thank you for that confirmation. Yeah. seriously, yeah, it was like a human living confirmation right in front of me.
Rebekka Mars: Yeah, I can't even wrap my human brain around most of it. And it is happening so fast.
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Rebekka Mars: And I'm grateful to live kinda like you like. It's like, what day is it? I know what date is, because I have to be on a schedule for current teaching Yoga classes, but other than that it's like Monday, Sunday, Wednesday, you know. So it's kinda nice to just be in that. And then I'm like, I don't watch news. I don't. You know. I justI don't. I don't live totally disconnected. But it's like you said. I know what I'm gonna put my energy and my eyes on, and most of the stuff that's out there. I don't. But then I do get glimpses of like my boyfriend loves to be on Youtube and look at very. He does filmmaking himself. And so it's there and then. It's like Whoa! There's like even more of this tech stuff going on than I even realized right now blowing my mind.
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Soulful Revolution: it's massive. It's massive, my Twitter feed. So it's full of those people. And so I pay attention to those people. But other people get into the feed. And you know, you could just really see how people can go down rabbit holes and and get their emotions jerked around a lot by everything. Fear. That's it's fear based.
That's the difference. Love love based doesn't feel like that.
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Rebekka Mars: Yeah, totally. Yes, I was. I was just thinking right, as you said, I was like, yep, and it's back to fear and love and knowing there's only 2 things. Yeah. Jump into the AI, but do it with love and curiosity and inner child play, and let it be a a tool like, don't let it all of a sudden become your reality. That's not really reality on a topic. I use it to get me started.
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Soulful Revolution: And it you know it. Somehow. It breaks through for me. Helps me Channel, like if I'm gonna write a newsletter or something like that. But don't. Don't just cut and paste it, because Google will ding you every single time.
I promise you. That's my advice about using AI or chat. Yeah, it's great. My John does that as well, and I've slowly. I always forget that it's a thing to jump on and do that. But it is great to help with writer's blocks. I'm a creative being in that way, too, but we get the blocks. And so I found that it is such a gift in that to like, really help, just lift, get through that one little thing, and then the floodgates open again,
and for SEO and things like that, like, I'm enough of a marketer that I understand that, you know. There's certain words that I need to be using that, maybe.
Maybe I'm not quite adept at that yet. So using Chat G, Ppt, I can, I can. Oh, like, okay, these are the key words that are gonna be important when I write this copy, or I write this newsletter or something like that. So it can get found
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Rebekka Mars: interesting. Yeah, yeah, that's like a nice, healthy, balanced way to use all of this. And then, yes, oh, so we'll find out tomorrow. Yeah, we'll just see. Yeah, so good. Well, I'll of course, link everything below. But would you please share? I mean, what is the best way for people to get into your world of all the things you offer, where your favorite places to share things. And what else is coming up?
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Soulful Revolution: Yeah, jump on to soulful revolution. TV. com online. That's our website. And you can join up for the newsletter. You're gonna you know I am. It is like a lazy random newsletter. It's not. I am not. I'm amazingly disciplined about the video part of this Youtube centric universe. But the newsletter is sort of like.
whenever there's a topic I really wanna talk about. II feel like I try to do it every month. But anyway, that's where you're gonna learn and on that website. There's our memberships. Pathfinders is my core project for this year. It is my main group of folks we meet every Wednesday at 10'clock. Eastern time live. I'll answer questions.
A lot of topic driven questions like, if it's too personal we might not go down that rabbit hole. But if you wanna talk about like, hey? There's a full moon eclipse in at the end of March, and how that might that affect people. I'm all about it. And then. At the end of path finders. We've extended it by a half hour, and I do a little lesson on your intuition on how to this week. I'm gonna talk about making an intuition practice.
Soulful Revolution: So yeah, so no matter when you jump on, you can get the back issues, so to speak, cool path finders.
Rebekka Mars: Yeah, I'll link that below and your Youtube channel. And I really have enjoyed, too. And we didn't get to really talk about astrology specifically. But you know the readings, and I'm not sure if you do this every time. But the I'm a Leo, so I'm always like jumping to the Leo specific part of the readings. So could you share a little bit to what you're doing now on your Youtube channel like when you do readings, if someone just wants to jump on, are they daily? Are you always categorizing them into zodiac, or
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Soulful Revolution: I don't read every day. II do you know, I'm working 6 days, but I post every day. And right now what I have been doing is I just finished the March readings today. So whenever you're watching this I'll do a monthly reading. I do a mid month reading.
and then in those inter you know, those 2 weeks that aren't the mid month and aren't the monthly. Sometimes they'll do something different. Sometimes they'll do different kinds of readings Twin Flame readings or pick a card readings or something like that, which is fun. It's super fun, cause it's a little bit different.
But I've really gotten into the full zodiac. So every reading I'm doing. during the week is categorized by zodiac. The only thing that's different is, I do a morning message every day, Monday through Friday at 7 Am. Eastern time, and post that sometimes I'm live every once in a while. I'm live.
you know, and that's fun, too, but it's those are general readings for the collective. So it's a spiritual you know, on your spiritual path. Sometimes today I plugged into a bunch of late bloomers, and I was like, yes, late bloomers. I love being a late bloomer,
Soulful Revolution: and but then other times there, there can just be a lot of information about a spiritual path, and you know what's just going on on.
Soulful Revolution: So every single day there's a different different kind of spread, or a different kind of reading coming from those cards but I do every week do the full zodiac. So that's that's been new since, I think. A year ago since I went to Costa Rica. So fun it's so good. And
Rebekka Mars: yeah, I don't think I've checked it this week. But I trust myself with these types of things, you know, I can only look at so many. But whenever I feel like, I'm gonna go check out. So far, re revolution. It's spot on. So thank you very much. You should look at the Leo, and I just did the. I didn't leave one today. I did so for March, cause I was on the lookout. Wow, because sometimes I'm like, what did I just say? But other times I'm like this that was like
off the hook. Oh, it's so cool. Yeah. And and listeners, I mean, it's
definitely here's at least for me. I have only sensed your truth and humbleness. I mean, you totally get yourself out of the way. That's how I always have felt from you, and that I do believe you're channeling from your intuition, or wherever you're channeling from, and that it comes through very clean. But I mean it just feels so real in my whole body. You know, it's not just in my head. It's definitely a heart gut thing of like
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Soulful Revolution: this is the truth coming from her. And and again, I only tune in when I feel like I need to. And that's also it's your intuition that's doing that right. I'm just taking in what's coming down. And some people are like, I don't know what she just said, this is, I'm like, Okay, it's not for you. Turn the channel perfectly fine, totally.
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Rebekka Mars: for sure. Yeah, that's usually. And I say it. Probably every solo cast I do on here, but it's same like you said at the very beginning. It's like also trusting and listeners. Whenever you're getting this, it might not be in the literal timeline here. But as with any pot like when I'm going through podcasts, I'm just trusting, like.
Rebekka Mars: I'm drawn to this one from whenever and there's something in there for me, most likely, maybe maybe not. But like kind of having that curiosity. And so same with this episode today. Same with, you know, hearing all the things Mary Jo, here you've shared like. Maybe this is that little intervention of, you know, whenever this is for people to either. Check out, Tarot, check out your channel, see what messages are. just maybe waiting for that moment of connection here. So I love to be that conduit. I hope that's true for listeners. But anyway, yeah, absolutely fantastic. Yes. Well, thank you so much. And it's been so awesome. Yeah, you're welcome. And listeners. Thank you. Check out everything. Mary. Jo has. Everything's below, and there's always more, and until next time, alright! See you later. Bye.