U.S. Phenomenon with Mario Magaña

Unveiling Sasquatch: A Journey Through Lore, Literature, and Adventure with Author Roxanne

Mario Magaña Season 4 Episode 10

Can a creature shrouded in mystery and debated for decades really exist? Join us for an electrifying episode as we sit down with Roxanne, an accomplished author, whose fascination with Sasquatch has led her on a compelling journey from New Jersey to the Pacific Northwest. Inspired by the famous 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film, Roxanne's new middle-grade and young adult fantasy novel captures the essence of this elusive legend. From hands-on research exploring potential campgrounds to uncovering the lore and legal protections in Washington State, Roxanne offers a treasure trove of insights into the world of Bigfoot.

Imagine incorporating a book that's a blend of folklore, adventure, and local charm into middle school curriculums – that’s exactly what Roxanne's work promises. As we explore the creative process behind her novel, we also delve into the cultural richness of rural Washington, where Sasquatch-themed knickknacks add a unique flavor to small towns. Roxanne shares her journey from brainstorming during COVID to collaborating with illustrator Jay Pears, providing an insider’s look into the complex world of publishing. Despite the three-year timeline from writing to publication, Roxanne remains hopeful for quicker projects in the future and reflects on the educational experiences gained along the way.

Ready for a family adventure? Picture a vibrant journey to Money Creek Campground and luxurious glamping near Mount Rainier, where nature and comfort converge. Roxanne's vivid descriptions of these awe-inspiring locations, combined with nostalgic reflections and modern camping dynamics, offer a perfect blend of inspiration and relaxation. You'll also get a sneak peek into the annual Sasquatch conference, rebranded as "US Phenomenon Live," where enthusiasts gather to discuss Sasquatch, UFOs, and unsolved mysteries. Whether you're a folklore fanatic or just love a good adventure tale, this episode is brimming with excitement and discovery.
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Speaker 1:

Welcome to US Phenomenon, where possibilities are endless. Put down those same old headlines. It's time to expand your mind and question what if? From paranormal activity to UFOs, bigfoot sightings and unsolved mysteries, this is US Phenomenon?

Speaker 2:

It began on a drive home from Swingshift. The radio, my only companion, the voice of the legendary Art Bell, filled the car, the beacon in the darkness, speaking worlds beyond our own Stories, untold secrets kept just out of sight. That voice, those tales, ignited a spark within me, a drive to seek the truth and explore the phenomenon that lies just beyond the edge of reason. From the whispers of the paranormal to the echoes of the unknown. My quest began. So join me, fellow night travelers, as we continue the journey and delve into the enigmas of the night and uncovering of the mysteries that await us. This is US Phenomenon, where the search for answers never ends and the adventure is just beginning. Tonight we're going to go deep in the woods. Deep in the woods we talk about legendary.

Speaker 2:

We did a show recently. We did an anniversary show about Mount St Helens. We did a show recently. We did an anniversary show about Mount St Helens, but I thought it would be only fitting to bring on someone who has written a phenomenal book. It is my pleasure to welcome Roxanne. Now, roxanne, welcome to US Phenomenon. This is incredible. Now you wrote a book, not a children's book. This is a book for teens, is that right?

Speaker 3:

It's for middle grade and teens. I have actually two casts, so there's sort of a younger cast and an older cast, so it will apply to a much larger audience. But yeah, it's middle grade fantasy, young adult fantasy.

Speaker 2:

And what got you into writing this? It's a novel, right, it's a book. I mean this, it is a novel. Yes, this, what made you decide to get into the, this allure, sasquatch Avenue? What?

Speaker 3:

made you go down this road? So I've always been fascinated with the Sasquatch Avenue. What made you go down this road? So I've always been fascinated with the Sasquatch. I grew up learning. Well, actually, when I was a small child we talked about Sasquatches. I never knew they were called Bigfoot until I actually moved to Pacific Northwest. So I grew up in New Jersey and, yeah, Sasquatches have always been fascinating to to me. There's a ton of folklore around it. I watched the. There's a Roger Patterson, Robert Gilman film that was filmed I think it was filmed in 1967 and it was filmed in northern California and it just blew me away because it's it's this grainy black and white footage of this Sasquatch walking in the woods and I just thought, wow, like this is amazing. And so that was sort of the inspiration for the book.

Speaker 2:

And when you, you said you grew up in the East coast, right and, and you was, the East coast had a different. I mean, you've always known it as a Sasquatch and didn't know it was but the, the second name, as you know, bigfoot. Um, the second name as you know, Bigfoot. Growing up were there stories of Sasquatch on the East Coast for you guys.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's. I mean, there's so many names for Sasquatch. You know people call it Yeti, yaoi, tektek, I've heard Skunk, ape, Wildman, there's, you know. Some people even say the abominable snow monster is a Sasquatch. But all these tales and folklore have this idea of this large ape-like creature that is a biped that walks on two feet, that has much larger proportions than a man, so it's more around like six, eight feet to about seven, ten, and then has much larger feet and just kind of walks around in the woods and and uh, is hard to to capture in terms of sightings, video photography. No scientist has actually trapped one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know, uh, it's illegal to kill one in the state of Washington. Did you know that? Yes, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I did. There's different counties have different. I think there's a and I forget the name of it. I actually put it in my book and I'm surprised I forget the name, but I think it's Skagit County. One of the counties has a like a $250,000 penalty if you actually harm a Sasquatch.

Speaker 2:

And I know that people but yeah, there are different penalties Right and I know that people are, uh, who listened to this radio show and watch the podcast and whatnot. They're like you always cover Bigfoot and Sasquatch and look, I mean, yeah, it's my thing, okay, it is my thing. I am very fascinated by it. We all should be fascinated by the Bigfoot, the Sasquatch, I got to tell you it's interesting that you were able to come up with, without giving too much away, when you decided to write this novel. Did you decide to go out and do research? Did you go out, boots on ground and do some hiking? What was the inspiration?

Speaker 3:

Okay, so this is a cute story. I I was actually in a writing a seminar and they had us write this writing prompt, and I'm like I don't want to write that writing prompt. That's boring. I'm going to work on my Sasquatch book and I wrote this scene with the main character, connor, you know, seeing the Sasquatch for the first time, and so that was again another reason why I decided I need to find a place in the Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 3:

I live in the Pacific Northwest right now. I need to find a campground. So I pulled up maps on the internet and Google Maps and I was just looking for a campsite with a river and a bridge and somewhere you know close to seattle. And I found this amazing campsite called money creek, and so I grabbed my family and we drove out there and we walked around the property and we took hundreds of pictures and I was. I decided this is it. This is exactly what I'm looking for. I need a campsite, a campground near a river with a bridge. Okay, so here's the funny story On the way home, we decide to stop for some coffee and there's this Sasquatch coffee place. We pull in. There's this giant Sasquatch Off of Highway 2?.

Speaker 3:

And it was the Sasquatch. Yes, so you know what I? You know where I'm going with this story. So it's the giant, uh, harry from harry and the hendersons. And apparently and I did not know this at the time that right around the area where I'm telling my story is right where they filmed harry and the hendersons, and I had no idea.

Speaker 2:

It was just sheer coincidence you know it like destiny, not sheer coincidence.

Speaker 2:

Destiny for you yeah very much destiny yes it's interesting because when you talk about bigfoot s Sasquatch, the people that go out do research, the people that have had encounters, that have shared their encounters. It's been a year since we've done our. We had a Bigfoot Sasquatch conference in Buckley, in the shadow of Mount Rainier. We had a full panelist.

Speaker 2:

The stories that were being told at this event, which is still on the website or you can go to my YouTube page and watch On Air Mario USA, some of these guys who are military guys out here hunting know what deer and bear look like and they were blown away. The guy said I'm a big dude, he's like I don't get scared by anything and what I saw was not a bear. This thing moved and was so quick when it finally saw him from the ridge, grabbed the branch and took off. He said, and his story and his reaction was so on point in regards to giving it gave me chills to hear a story and his truth is his truth and I'm like, I was like this. There's no way this guy's making this story up.

Speaker 2:

You could hear his voice shaking. They're like not like he was lying. He like you could hear the, the terror in his own voice. Uh, it was just awe, inspiring, like, oh, this guy's for real. And when people talk about this elusive creature, this bipedal thing, people don't want to share their stories because they're afraid they're going to get made fun of. And I know it's become more, you know, I think more pop culture now. But no, go ahead. I thought you were going to say something.

Speaker 3:

I was going to say, I was just going to say I think there's this underground network of people that believe in Sasquatches and so if you find a kindred spirit, you'll share your story. But yeah, I have run across that. I've, I've, I've met people that have actually seen Sasquatches and begged them to tell me their stories, and a lot of them were very hesitant to share. I did get two stories told to me but, yeah, a lot of people were just too concerned. I would laugh at them or, you know, not believe them, and I think that it's a personal thing. So, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2:

Let's go back to the story, your novel that you wrote. Let's talk about the adventures, about this, about this unknown creature, but let's talk about the main character in this book. How did this, this character, come up Is? Is this character an inspiration of someone in your life? Where does the inspiration for this character come from?

Speaker 3:

No, he just came out of my head, which sounds strange. Writers are strange people. We invent characters and give them personalities and, in a strange way, they start talking to us even when we're trying to sleep. So Connor is the main character. He's about 13 and he has a younger sister, penny, who's 10. And once I started putting them down on the page, they kept talking to me saying no, say this, say this, no, tell them this, tell them this. So it's interesting. I almost feel like the characters started writing the book themselves and I was just dictating.

Speaker 2:

And you, you were just going sure, uh, your book is available.

Speaker 3:

I was just in in the flow your book is available on Amazon.

Speaker 2:

I saw, and we'll have a link uh posted uh within the YouTube channel if you're watching, or we'll have it in the podcast uh as well. You can uh find uh you on any of your platforms. Are you? Are you sending most of your uh viewers or people that on Twitter or whatever the heck it's called these days? X? Where do you like people to typically?

Speaker 3:

find you. So I'm on right, Uh, Twitter, Twitter or X. Yes, that's where I'm. I'm on Twitter or X every day Pretty much. Um, I just created a LinkedIn page and I'm. I have an author bio on Amazon. I'm starting to work on a website, but I don't have it up and running yet.

Speaker 2:

Isn't that the? It's always the thing. You gotta have a website up, you gotta you know, and it's, it's, it's, it's a lot, it's a lot to process. But going back to the different characters, is there something in the novel that for someone who may be interested maybe someone's not interested in sasquatch or bigfoot this is? Is it? This becomes an easy read for middle-aged kids, for young?

Speaker 3:

adults in the fantasy world yeah, so it's a coming-of-age story. There's a lot of friendship, there's a lot of challenges, there's a lot of adventure. Um. So, even if you're not a Sasquatch fan, I think you'll love the book, because there's a really strong relationship between Connor and his best friend, darius, and then also bringing in Penny as the tag along in the rear, but yeah, they're. They're a great group of kids and they get themselves into lots of trouble now do they, without giving too much away.

Speaker 2:

Do they find? Do they find a sasquatch?

Speaker 3:

yes, so I'll just share the premise. They go camping, connor loses his dog in the woods, and that's why they have to keep. Going back to the woods is to find their missing puppy. And uh, throughout their adventures of trying to find the puppy, they run into the Sasquatch. So yeah, and then they, they, uh, realized that they're not the only ones hunting the Sasquatch. There's a million dollar prize. And they thought, oh, we could just trap it and get the money. And uh, so yeah, they are now in the woods with a whole bunch of other people. So it adds a lot of excitement and adventure for young readers to find out what is going to happen to Connor and his friends and will they make the right choices.

Speaker 2:

You can find this on Amazon. Make sure you buy hundreds of copies. Give it to every family member you have in your family young kids, teens. Buy hundreds of copies. Give it to every family member you have in your family young kids, teens. This needs to be a staple in every middle school, maybe sixth grade reading curriculum in the state of Washington. We just need to make this honorary and just say, hey, this is now a thing. You've got to read this.

Speaker 2:

And I say this because if you've grown up here I say this all the time the further away you get from the metropolis, the big cities or even the suburbs and you start to go out. Let's say you go camping, you go to Mount Rainey, you're going to do a day drive, you're going to go up to well, you can't anymore. You got to make a reservation, but you're going to go somewhere. The further out you get away from the city, the more you start to find cool little things. You're going to find a cool ice cream shop, but inside that ice cream shop you're going to find knickknacks and rocks and you know agates and all these different things. You're going to put a little bag together. You're going to put your little agates and rocks and stuff, and then around the corner you see a book and around the corner you see these different little things and then you see a bumper sticker and then you see the sasquatch stuffed animal and then you see the pillow, because I have it in the house now. It's, it's, it's all over the place. The further you get away from the city you find a bigfoot thing. You see, you see stickers, and I know that the city of seattle it's become more offoot thing. You see, you see stickers and I know that the city of Seattle it's become more of a thing where you'll find the, you know the different carved Sasquatches and stickers and trinkets and things of that nature within the city.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I think it was more of a like you know the, the state parks or the national parks. You started to see the little mom and pop shop, the ice cream, the gas stations, the pizzerias and the things of that nature as you were going out to grab some food, you know, because there's nothing out there. And you see, you know you sit down at the diner and you're like, oh well, the diner's got this little cool. You know, store, a convenience store that they run too, and you see all the cool stuff, your book's got to be in these stores. I mean it's. I mean, it's a pillow, a book. If there's one thing I would say, it's got to be there. But when you, what was the time premise for you to get this thing done? Was this like an overnight thing for you, or did this take several years for you to, from start to finish, to put this project together?

Speaker 3:

Well, I started writing this book over COVID, so I think it gave me some time to write the book and to really think about it and then do some traveling in the woods, you know, take my family out, get out into the woods, get out of the house. But it took a good year to write. And then I also worked with an amazing illustrator, jay Pears, to do the cover art, the frontest piece in the front of the book, and then there's little pen and ink drawings at each chapter head. So it took about a year to write the book and work with the illustrator. And then it took about a year to edit the book, get it professionally edited and then about a year to publish it. So from start to finish it's taken about three years, which seems like a long time, but I didn't know the publishing process would take as long as it did. But yeah, it's been an education and now I think for my next book things will go a lot faster.

Speaker 2:

Would you say you would recommend for those of the family adventure as we get into the beginning of well you know, not the official summer, but you know now that Memorial Day has passed. Would you say that Money Creek Campground was a fun adventure for you and your family?

Speaker 3:

It was very fun. Yeah, it's a great park. There's a cute little, there's a bunch of cute little towns on the way, little diners, mom and pop shops we can go get you know some great pie. There's a bunch of places to go get espresso. Um, yeah it's. It's a beautiful drive, just a gorgeous drive, going out and into the mountains and, just you know, spending time in the wilderness. It's amazing.

Speaker 2:

I will say, if you're on your way and you're heading east, the Salton Bakery is a hidden gem. Now, I like to leave early in the morning because this is how I do this and my daughter hates me for it, but we're like we leave early.

Speaker 2:

Well early, late for me, early for her Seven, whatever to get to Salt and Bakery so we can have the breakfast sandwich, the breakfast sandwich, and this is. They're not plugging and paying for this. But if you're looking for the best breakfast sandwich, don't even stop at Mickey D's. Go to the Salt and Bakery.

Speaker 2:

Get the buttermilk bar, get yourself a nice cold glass of something milk or whatever you drink, get the coffee and then get the breakfast sandwich. I'm telling you, that thing is amazing. The bread sinks in your mouth. They bake the bread fresh. There I mean it is, and it's huge. The breakfast sandwich can feed two people. For one big sandwich.

Speaker 3:

I'm laughing because we did stop on the way out there and go to the Salton Bakery.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is fantastic. That drive is something that is just. It's a beautiful country. It's like you get out there and it's just nice. It's great. You have that air, the fresh air. You can hear the creek and the rivers going by. Life changes up there.

Speaker 2:

Now there are other phenomenons that are up there that no one talks about. They're on other podcasts. We're not going to talk about them on this one today, but there are other phenomenons that have happened up there in that area, so it's interesting that you were able to premise this in that area for your inspiration for writing this book. Was there something about the area that that took to you in the writing process, where you're like oh yeah, this is perfect for this? That was just like, hey, this area needs to shine. What was it about the area that just felt like you didn't need to go to other campgrounds, that you just boom, this was the spot. Did you go to other ones, or was I?

Speaker 3:

didn't and I should have. But I, we fell in love with the spot. My daughter loved it, my husband loved it. We walked around for hours, we took hundreds of photos. It just you walked in and there's this canopy of green trees. There's moss hanging on the trees, it looked like green tinsel kind of hanging down and you know, it was just so lovely. The bottom of the forest bed was just littered with leaf litter and you just crunch under your feet. It was just beautiful.

Speaker 3:

And then there was this river, the Skykomish River, right next door or right nearby the campground. That just was perfect for one of the scenes in the book. So there's sort of a dangerous scene crossing the river. So, yeah, it just spoke to me and everything I was thinking in my head that I needed for this campground, it was there plus more. So I just felt like it was the perfect spot, this campground. It was there plus more. So I just felt like it was the perfect spot and you know, taking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of photos, which was I just I couldn't soak it up enough, but it was just lovely and I just really, really appreciated being in the beauty of nature and knowing that this was the spot where the book needed to take place.

Speaker 2:

I got to ask you have you been back since?

Speaker 3:

I haven't, and I've been begging my husband and daughter to go back. I actually asked them, I think, like two weeks ago, let's go back, and they're like ah, we don't want to go, they're so busy right now. But yeah, definitely we will make another trip because it is just, it's gorgeous.

Speaker 2:

It's funny when we talk about this and we're working with somebody, but and this is to for something else but camping is not the same anymore, like back in the day you go, you go camping and it's a thing, it's like it's a process, I feel. I feel like camping now is more of an inconvenience and it's like it's almost like self-torture to me. It it's like my back hurts. I'm like it's not the same as when I was like 10 years old. It was like, yeah, it's fine. Now it's like, oh my God, I wake up. But when I camp maybe it's I don't really venture far. It's like, okay, I'll do my thing. But I'm like I got my food, I'm cooking, I got the tunes on.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure all the everyone's all upset because my my music's blaring. I'm playing a little something for everyone. You know you got a little. You got some r&b, some rap, some 70s, some 80s. Just everything makes everyone upset, but it is. We live in a day and age where sometimes it is hard to go back out to these areas, as you're saying, and life just continues to move by very rapidly and hopefully you guys will get a chance to go back and maybe you'll further the adventure to Leavenworth or some of the other Lake Wenatchee also, further past, I think, your point, where you guys camped out. But another great location, maybe for another book. But, um, and maybe wait, maybe this will be inspired for another book, for maybe a ufo sighting, who knows?

Speaker 3:

oh, interesting yeah you know um so it's funny you mentioned the camping because, um, my husband likes glamping, which is he needs running water, running toilet.

Speaker 3:

You know he wants a pad under his sleeping bag. So I I'm more I can rough it like I'll sleep out under the stars. I I love to just cook out doors, build a fire, you know, cook, cook hot dogs on a stick, do do all the the camping things we make s'mores usually. But yeah, I think you're right, like people have started to get used to their you know having, you know things that are more home. So everybody wants the pad under their sleeping bag and the chair and you know it's moving more from rough and core tumble camping to more of glamping.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to look for this place that I was. It's a very much going to be a glamping location which is more towards, uh, mount rainier area. I'm trying to remember and I'm looking through my phone frantically for this location. Unfortunately I can't come up with it. But these guys have these yurts where it's got the hot tub on the deck and it's like they got the tv in there.

Speaker 2:

They got a personal shower with the, the massage, you know, the shower heads on it, and and they're going to be a sponsor of the radio show. But uh, we've just been so busy I was trying to find it to share with you but oh my God, it's by Mount Rainier. But the problem is now, if you go to go glamping, you've got to have a reservation to go to the National Park. You can't just show up anymore. It's like, do you have an appointment to be here at the National Park? And that's what's unfortunate. You know it's uh in this day and age, but that just means that a lot of people are interested in doing these day hikes. And I'm with your husband. I think the older we get as men, you know sometimes we need a little kind of like, can be kind of like soft a little bit. You know it's like we, we, you know we don't get that whole like. Yeah, we're like it's nice, you got the bed. You're like you gotta wake up, it's like camping.

Speaker 2:

It's like working still. You still got to do all this stuff, so I definitely get that. Um. Going back to the book characters uh, do they, do they just basically stay in this one area or do they venture like do they go?

Speaker 3:

home there's. They go home, they, they're in school, they have to skip school to go out back to the forest. There's a, there's a bunch of things that happen and there's kind of this local watering hole. It's a local um restaurant where they end up hanging out and building their plans and meeting other characters, and so that's how they get to be friends with the ranger the local ranger that's on site and the local gal that works in the restaurant. So, yeah, there's a bunch of characters. It's a pretty big cast of characters, but the whole story is really wrapped around finding this Sasquatch and then finding the Sasquatch before the hunters do so. Yeah, you have to read the book to find out what choices these young kids make, because not all the choices are easy. Sure, and sometimes it's, you know, choice between a difficult choice and a hard choice.

Speaker 2:

Now, did you ever grow up watching Harry and the Hendersons?

Speaker 3:

I didn't. In fact, it's funny you mention it because I had a different ending for the book. I was going to have this ending where someone had put some fake Sasquatch footprints to leave the hunters away. And then my friends were like that's the ending of Harry and the Hendersons. And I said what's Harry and the Hendersons? And they said it's a movie about Sasquatch. You have to watch this movie if you're writing a book about Sasquatch. So yes, I watched the movie and I realized it had the ending that I wanted. So I changed my ending, changed the ending of the book. Wow, didn't want to be a copycat.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, sure. I mean, it's been so long since I've seen that movie, but if you get a chance to go watch it again, your book is available on Amazon. Is that where you want everyone to go to find to to get the book, or is it somewhere that would be more profitable for you?

Speaker 3:

So so right now the ebook is on Barnes and Noble, it's on Goodreads, it's on Instagram and then the book itself is on Amazon. The ebook is on Amazon, the hardcovers on Amazon and the audio book is on Amazon, and so I'm working to get the paperback, hardcover and audio book moved to different platforms. The ebook is everywhere, because that's the first thing that I released, and so you can find that. Multiple platforms. But for if you want to actually have a hardcover or a paperback book, you'd have to get it on Amazon today. But again, my plan is to to spread the wealth. You know have have other options for people to purchase the book.

Speaker 2:

Well, uh, we'll have them all linked on the website, the podcast, uh, via the YouTube channel or if you're listening on the podcast, we'll. We'll link all the stuff below. Um, what's parting ways with you this afternoon, this evening I say afternoon, what's really night? But, um, is there one thing that you took away when you wrote this book, as you um, that you became more, maybe your senses became more in heightened, as you uh did your day-to-day activities of maybe seeing different things with your research, you feel like maybe you've had or you do, you feel like you're more keen to look and see something out in the woods. Maybe you've gone for a day hike, or maybe you've had an adventure and you maybe you've seen some sticks or you saw a big something like a footprint. Obviously, if you did, you'd have it in the book, or you've had, you'd have some type of evidence, obviously someone, yeah, you, just you don't leave that behind. But do you feel like your senses are heightened because of this book?

Speaker 3:

Yes, definitely. So you mentioned the footprint. I was actually in one of those you know boutique-y kind of stores out near the Oregon coast and there was a full Sasquatch print that somebody had taken and made a plaster cast and it was kind of expensive and I kept thinking I wanted to buy it, but it was so realistic looking. I'm like, how did they make this? How did they, you know, did they actually find this print? And there was all this documentation saying they had actually found it in the woods.

Speaker 3:

Um, but yeah, whenever I go camping, I'm always looking for things. Um, in folklore they they say Sasquatches do a number of things and so I'm always on the search. So they'll stack a bunch of rocks on top of each other. If you see a bunch of rocks stacked on top, chances are it could have been a non-human that did that. And then the other thing they'll do is they'll rip trees out and put them upside down so that their roots are kind of up and that, if you see that that's a warning, that is saying this is our territory, go away. So that is their Sasquatch is basically telling you, don't come in this area. So yeah, I keep looking for that to see if, if any trees have been uprooted and flipped upside down. I keep looking for that, to see if any trees have been uprooted and flipped upside down.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, I think when you start to really think about all the folklore that's been out there on Sasquatches and all the people that have seen them or had sightings of a Sasquatch, you know who's to say that they aren't real. Who's to say that they aren't out there. Maybe we just haven't had a chance to catch one yet. Right, there are, you know, in the Amazon. They're always finding new fish. They'll go into these areas and they're always finding new species that no one has ever discovered before. So who's to say that you know, out of the hundreds of millions of acres that we have, that there aren't creatures lurking in the woods that we have not discovered yet?

Speaker 2:

This is true when I think about the elusive bipedal ape that looks like nothing we've ever seen before. I will say this, and I say it all the time on the show, and I have said it on past shows To me I want my Sasquatch to be indigenous to the planet. So, and and and. When people ask, oh, why haven't we found one like the remains, think about this you don't find anything in the forest. It's gone, it gets. Mother nature will decompose of it right away.

Speaker 3:

It takes time but other animals eat it.

Speaker 2:

Sure, that is correct. That is very true. So, if, if that's the case, you know they, they do their thing, and I always, I always, I always have to remind people cause you talked about this earlier about how you guys were camping the Creek, the rivers always have to be mindful. It is we are now in the season where people are putting their toes and feet in water that are much colder. Uh, this is a warning. We are still in the early stages of warmer weather, so be very cautious as you get in these lakes, streams, streams and rivers.

Speaker 2:

The water can look calm, but it can take you. If you're in a river, the water might be very cold and may shock you, and you need to be protected. Please wear your life protection while you're out on the waters. That is my PSA for everyone. Look, I've lived here my entire life. I know that water can be very chilling and, can you know, can do some very damaging things. So if you're out playing by the rivers, please be mindful and please, you know, be mindful not to go too far so you don't get taken by the current.

Speaker 2:

That being said, man, I'm excited I'm actually going to go download the audio book because I, like most people, I have to consume that stuff very quickly so that I can continue moving on to the next item in life. Not because, yeah, time is very limited and I know that everyone is like this, but to me I I'm very excited for you on this book. It sounds fantastic. I'm excited to read it, to listen to it. If there's anything that I could say, I hope that everyone buys this book for their younger, maybe for a family member. Buy it for a friend, buy it for some kid. Just buy the book and give it to somebody. If you're out here listening and you're driving home from work or doing errands, or maybe you're traveling from a campsite or something on the show, just go out, buy the book. We'll have it all linked on the website. Go to my website on air mariocom. The links are available on your uh, well, I can't say website, but on your twitter handle, uh, which is posted. Um, any parting words before you leave?

Speaker 3:

yeah, I think you've touched on a lot of great things about Sasquatches. I think the one thing that we should be careful of is that they are an endangered species and if you do come across one, they could be potentially violent. So you shouldn't like approach them or, you know, just because you want to take a picture or something like that. You should be very careful of wild creatures in the woods. They are called animals for a reason.

Speaker 2:

Hold on, let me get a selfie of us with the Sasquatch.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, please, please, please, be mindful.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we don't know enough about them to know how they would respond you may be the first person that has ever said that in any of my broadcasts to say, be mindful and be careful of the sasquatch. I think everyone is like get it on film, get it on film. Um, I get a lot of people asking oh, when, when are you gonna go out for an adventure? I'm like I don't have time. Got to record. We got to do these shows, got to wrap, got to get these things dialed out, got to do these shows. So maybe this summer we'll have more of that and when we do our US Phenomenon live show, we'd love to have you come out and hang out. If it aligns with your schedule, we come out and hang out.

Speaker 2:

If it aligns with your schedule, we'd love to have you come out to talk about the book again during the US Phenomenon live show, which will be available. Make sure you register on my website. Go to onairmariocom, click on the link to register, because it is going to sell out, but it's going to be a fun event of all ages. Kids will be able to hang out in this location that we're trying to secure, so we look forward to that. Again, roxanna, thank you so much for coming out to share your book, which is available on many platforms Sasquatch it's a fantasy novel, but that is the title, just Sasquatch right Sasquatch is the title, justasquatch right sasquatch is the title just sasquatch, yep so easy to search.

Speaker 2:

We'll have it all linked in the in the podcast. You you've you youtube, the youtube stream as well. Um, again, thank you so much for coming to hang out with us this evening and, um, as I always like to say, be sure to look up at the sky, because you never know what you might see.

Speaker 3:

Good night, Good night, thank you.

Speaker 2:

And it says you are uploading it. I didn't hear the audio cut out on you, so it says it's uploading the audio. So the audio so okay so hopefully it was good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, all right. Well, thank you so much, I will. Um, I went one second. You mentioned a sasquatch uh convention or something that happens every year well, we, yes, um, I last year was a sasquatch conference.

Speaker 2:

I I don't. I haven't got a lot of hits in regards to it. Be, I'm renaming it to be a us phenomenon live instead of a sasquatch conference, because I think everyone's like tired of the sasquatch conference, like being shoved down their throat.

Speaker 2:

So we're gonna okay it's gonna be this is why I renamed it to us phenomenon live. So it will be a live round table with different subjects so Sasquatch, ufos, uaps, maybe unsolved mysteries, something for everyone. So we'll have a panelist and you can come out and do the you know. Come out and share your story. Have you, you know, do the you know? Come out and share your story. Have you, you know, do the book situation there as well, and that's why I said

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