Entrepreneur Tony Grebmeier

Episode 9

Tony Grebmeier is a former radio DJ who is now running, Ship Offers, a multi-million dollar company he started with his best friend and a company that he nearly lost when he was close to a million dollars in debt, separated from his wife and kids, addicted to alcohol and drugs, and on the verge of suicide. Tony talks about the changes he made in his life and how you will now find him speaking around the world and helping others to live their best life. And as you will hear, he is the reason WHY this podcast became a reality

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Michael Bernoff 

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Music

The Strumbellas

https://open.spotify.com/artist/6ujr1NkqbZpYOhquczUUfl

Racoma

https://open.spotify.com/artist/3Y3bK9UlgDtqEfIwFUCLH0

Books

The Compound Effect by Darren Hardy

https://smile.amazon.com/Compound-Effect-Multiply-Success-Simple/dp/B07MWCVQ1T/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=the+compound+effect&qid=1588557188&sr=8-2

Full Focus Planner by Michael Hyatt

https://fullfocusplanner.com/

Apps

Masterclass

https://www.masterclass.com/

Bible

The Bible Rick Warrens Daily Devotional

https://www.bible.com/reading-plans/135-rick-warrens-daily-devotional/day/1

The Hebrew Bible by Robert Alter

https://www.amazon.com/Hebrew-Bible-Translation-Commentary-Three/dp/0393292495

Transcript

Matt:   0:01
today on What can you tell me? I speak with Tony Greg Meyer, a former radio deejay who is now running a multimillion dollar company with his best friend, a company that he nearly lost when he was close to a $1,000,000 in debt. Separated from his wife, addicted to alcohol and drugs and on the verge of suicide, Tony talks about changes he made in his life. And how you will now find him speaking around the world in helping others with their best life, as you will hear, is the reason why this podcast became a reality.

Matt:   0:26
Well, hey, Tony G. Welcome to what Can you tell me? The podcast,

Tony:   0:30
man, It is so good to see you and be here with you today. So thank you very much for this opportunity.

spk_1:   0:36
Yeah. Look, I appreciated the opportunity is all mine, actually, because I would have never started this podcast if it wasn't for you. And we will absolutely get into that discussion later. And all the fun things you've been rolling around in your life. So why don't you tell me about what can you tell me about Tony G the young man,

spk_0:   0:56
Tony G, the young man was very confused. I guess that was probably the easiest way parents divorced when I was literally, like, three months old. And I didn't really understand what any of that meant. Didn't understand. Um, no. My dad came out, um, being gay in the seventies, that wasn't what anybody really talked about and didn't really ever have that kind of conversation with my mom just kind of said, Hey, I'm out and left. And so I remember kind of growing up, very confused because I didn't aid, know what it meant to be gay and and never really hear that conversation get brought up. Um, was wrestling kind of with the fact of going between both of my parents and didn't know what that meant or felt like my mom. My mom was a school teacher at an older sister. My mom's, you know, remarried kind of several years after, ah, that initial divorce with my father. And next thing I know, I had ah, stepbrother and stepsister, and I was still very confused. Kind of like what happened in my real family. Now I've got other people in my family. I guess I love these people too. that lasted for about 89 years. And then that divorce came and then I was kind of really, like soul searching. And so I ended up asking my mom one day I could go live with my dad. So I put me around fourth or fifth grade, and I went and lived with my father for about three or four years and cause me just a lot of angst and grief. My dad wasn't around a lot, and so I was left to my own devices and in kid, you any kid you leave to your own devices, they're going to get into trouble. And so I started getting into trouble and one of the big kind of like, moments in my life, and I reflect a lot on it just because of something that I did that I didn't really think too much about. Um, I was in fifth grade, Haing 1/6 grade over the summer, a buddy of mine said, Hey, you know, we got a bunch of these LP's, you know, Culture Club A, C D. C. I mean, Prince all you name it. And we grabbed these lp's and we went out to, um park near my house. We started throwing them and then they split in half. And then I threw one and my buddy turned left and I told him, Look, right. And then you got hit in the eye and it slices I and he went blind. Eso I remember cause that caused this story for me is OK for me to talk about today, but yet still a very big part of my story because I thought everything was good in my life and I watched how people can quickly turn. And even though my friend didn't blame me for it, the whole school did. And so, for the entire six grade year, um, people were beating me up, calling me names, trying to pick fights with me, and it really caused me to kind of inward dive and think, you know, like there's something wrong with me. My parents don't love me. My friends hate me, and it really begin. This kind of like a whirlwind kind of like I think downwards aspire for me. And so I I got through it, um went to junior high and then towards the end of junior high for us was eighth grade. My mom and I had a conversation. I went back home and live with my mom and went off toe, you know, finish high school with her and play sports in a high level and and, you know, it was an all American goalie. But that part of the whole story became who I was. My identity was very much caught up. And did people like me because when I was a water polo goalie, I was by myself, and I began to see the world through a different lens, which eventually led me to becoming a radio deejay. And if you can follow the story, a radio deejay is very much isolated. He's in a booth by himself. So I started this whole whirlwind of like, All right, maybe I should just tell stories for a living. And so it all kind of came from my childhood, and I tell you, if you anybody who is listening right now realizes like, Oh my God, he said, It all comes from your child. Absolutely 100% shapes you to find you. It creates so much of your basis for how you filter the life that's coming at you. and you go back to like childhood. So I've had to do a lot of work over the years to really look at that because I went through it. I'm capable to go through a lot more, and I'm better for going through it and getting an acknowledgement and an understanding of my childhood because I was able to reflect back and say, Hey, my dad did the best he could with what he had. My mom worked three jobs to the best she could to put food on the table for my sister myself. And really, what it was was an opportunity for me to identify what I wanted to do and what I didn't want to do with my life.

spk_1:   5:32
Yeah, I often times people ask me how I went from being in the circus to becoming a police officer, and I do the exact same thing I say. Well, actually, if you look at what I did as a child, it's you could follow a linear if I if I say it or speak it out to you, I can tell you exactly why I ended up becoming a police officer and I had a lot of wonderful, amazing experiences that really shaped who. I was a kid, and that's what made me who I am, is an adult. And that's what I'd like to believe continues giving me the same outlook on life even though I'm in a completely different world from going from performing and entertaining for people to becoming a police officer. Yet I still use a lot of the same skills, and I still use all of my life kind of what I learned from previous in life and all the things I learned is a circus performer. I just it's It's so crucial to who I am and it goes back to the time I was, I can essentially say 12 years old and started juggling and unicycling so fun Fact. I also played water polo in high school and was the goalie not a great one, but I was a goalie.

spk_0:   6:34
I love it. And you you went to school where

spk_1:   6:37
I was at Bellarmine. You were you were across the hill. It

spk_0:   6:39
all I can tell you is Ellerman will forever be one of the worst experiences of my life. Oh God, what happened? My my junior year and in my senior year. They had a try school dance, and I decided to just decided that I wanted to get really, really hammered. And so I was at my buddy Kurtz house, who lives here in Colorado with me, along with my business partner, Doug and I was at his house, which happened be seven houses down from mine. So I went home and I grabbed whatever I could find in the liquor cabinet, which at the time I saw a gallon a wine and triple second. I didn't I didn't know what Triple SEC wasn't like It's in here. It's got to be good. I grab that. I grabbed wine, a little bit of weed that I had from. Somebody gave me a little like a little something, something. So I took all that and I got back to Kurtz and there was a little party going on, and someone had made Mac and cheese. I drink a gallon of wine. The whole thing. A triple sec smoked a little bit of the joint, the Mac and cheese. About an hour later, we head to the try school, dance on, and let's just say Mac and cheese everywhere. Yeah, and I didn't make it into the try school dance, and my buddy Aaron, Cocoa and myself were stuck in a car. We passed out what we passed out in front of the police station and cause I was right next to where this try school dance was and talking about police officers. There's a lot of different types of police officers. There's ones that make sure that you're following the law. Then there is the one to understand that you are a kid once. You still need to follow love, but let's not ruin your life. Let's give you an opportunity to get some help made a phone call called My mom said, Hey, ma'am, I used to be a water polo goalie. I know your son. I used to train him. He had a little bit too much drink. Could you come and pick him up? So my mom comes down, picks me up, my buddy errands like throwing up on outside the car as it's driving home. My mom leaves me, takes good care of me the next morning. Five. My coach calls and says, I need Tony at the pool. He's not gonna play today, but he's going over the hill and like it was a tournament of Bella vermin. And so my head is splitting the Onley time. My head wasn't hurting is when my coach allowed me to warm the team up and sit, you know, in the pool for a few minutes. And every time I got out to go sit on the bench, I ran to the bushes and then they came back all day. So I will always like Bell German and hate Gillerman a debate same time.

spk_1:   9:03
I believe you should hate red wine and triple sec.

spk_0:   9:05
No under no had nothing to do with it. It was because of element known houses getting

spk_1:   9:10
no, I'll get okay,

spk_0:   9:12
but it reminds me every time I hear about Bill Orb Ellerman I was like and I had a lot of memories of that and I had a lot of good friends. I went there. It was an amazing school. You got a great education,

spk_1:   9:21
Grego. I completely agree. And I often say, you know, I didn't go to college until I was almost 30 and people say why you know why? Why would you go from such a good school? That I said, Look, they teach you how to learn, and I learned how to learn. And when I decided to go to college almost a dozen years later, I knew how to learn. So I'm in. I would Harold Washington City College in Chicago, which is a junior college. And people were just amazed that I was getting Asian classes. And I'm like, What? What's so amazing? Well, you must not have a job like, actually, I do this. This initiative. Look, you must not have the No, actually, I've got a girlfriend. Will you muscle action? I'm doing theater shows. They just couldn't understand how I could do this. And I said, Well, I was taught how to learn, right? And I was very fortunate for that because it made school really easy for me. And I greatly appreciate it.

spk_0:   10:07
No, I, uh I often reflect back. I can relate to that. You know, I ended up after high school, went to a junior college for two years, played, so I was like a three time All American water polo goalie got a chance to play in Europe, really saw it at a high level that I thought that's what I wanted to do. And then earlier in my kind of may career growing up, you know, everybody talks about their career, right? Like when I was 11 I got into radio 12 and then by 13 I got my FCC license, and so I totally forgot. One day, and I was walking to a class in college and I saw a radio station. I was like, Huh, That's interesting. Like we walk in and I started talking to the professor, and he's like, Well, you have to take all this other stuff, like to talk on the radio. Yeah, I gotta go take this class in that class of my give me a shot. So he gave me a shot, and I remember I was the only d. J. That semester. They got a job in a real radio station, right? And what I think what I was gonna tap on to what you were talking about was really hard Work beats education, in my opinion, almost every single time, because you can get an education. But if you're not a hard worker and you're not dedicated, you're not willing to put in the sweat equity and put in the time when no one's looking man and education is like having a diploma on the wall. But not doing anything with it is just a piece of paper. So put in the hard work and you could become anything you want in this world.

spk_1:   11:23
Totally agree. I had a very similar experience with school. Actually, when I was getting my degree, I was ultimately got my degree in human nutrition. It was registered dietitian, personal trainer did that whole thing for a couple of years while I was performing just as a Haygood. Easy way to make some money while I'm not on the road. Performing problem is, as you get successful as a trainer, everybody wants you more and more regularly. And now it was said, You're waking up at four o'clock in the morning, train people from five AM to 8 a.m. and then from noon to two and then from 5 p.m. To 9 p.m. I no longer had any of my own free time, but I'm in this class and I had to take a speech class. I said, Do I really have to take this speech class? I legitimately do trade shows as a presenter for living get a very good paycheck to do this, They said. Yeah, well, we really don't have a waiter to quantify your ability to do this. And I said, How about the fact that I get a paycheck? That's an actual quantity of money that says, I'm good at this. I've got videos on the Internet So I had to go take this speech class with people who had no ability to speak. And yet here I was professionally. It was super frustrating for me because it just was something I had to have for my degree. But at the same time, it gave me an interesting look at just society in general. There was a guy in my speech class. No exaggeration is his rap name, as he said, was Larry the volcano. Um, and Larry was He was laid volcano because he spit rhymes like a volcano spits lava. You see where that's going?

spk_0:   12:45
That's good flow.

spk_1:   12:47
Yeah, and hey, did his speech one day I did mine on Shel Silverstein. Fascinating man. Fun fact. A boy named Sue by Johnny Cash is written by Shel Silverstein, also a man who had a lot of his comics and cartoons in Playboy magazine when he first started up. But, uh, Larry did his speech on bizzy bone from bone thugs and harmony, and he legitimately printed up the Wikipedia page about bizzy bone and red for 10 minutes straight. A Wikipedia entry which was so painful. And he would always say to our teacher, Miss Jenny, Miss Jenny should be like, uh, Larry, do me a favor. I am a white woman from the south. You are a young black man from the city. It makes me very uncomfortable to hear. Ah, because I'm from the South. It makes me very uncomfortable to hear a black person call me Miss. Because where I'm from, that's like a sign of, uh, an old school sign of your not as good as this person. You had to call a white person. Miss this and he goes Sorry about them. Is Jenny Miss Jenny saw it was Miss Jenny. If you like Larry, please call me Jenny Comey. Miss Armendariz, do not call me Miss Jenny. Okay? Sorry. Mother. Was Jen. It was like the most

spk_0:   13:55
like you sound like Tom Hanks and for his cub Oh,

spk_1:   13:59
it was It was It was definitely Ah, study in humanity. That Anyway, I love it. So water poster you played in Europe. That's exciting. Now, you people don't realize you're, like, nine feet tall, right?

spk_0:   14:12
Just a little shorter than that. Yeah, I'm six foot six. Been. I've been basically over six foot since, like, six grade. So I grew a lot over, like, six in the junior high. And by the time I was in high school, I was always taller than most kids. So, yeah, I know. It's interesting, cause that we have to Ah, my wife and I who you you grow up with? My wife performed with my wife, so that's kind of our way of kind of connecting. But we have to have two kids, both adults, which is

spk_1:   14:43
spring being a and string bean B.

spk_0:   14:45
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, You were mad. The clown, that's all. The kids knew us growing up like I remember like, Hey, what are you doing today, Matthew? Clowns coming. All right,

spk_1:   14:53
Cool. Make balloons.

spk_0:   14:54
I think you didn't play for heathens. Remember that one party we had where we had, like snakes and reptiles

spk_1:   15:02
and was this. The garage

spk_0:   15:03
one? Yeah, there was a garage, but I think it was also we had some stuff going outside. Yeah, they're both, like, over six foot. Yeah. And so when I was growing up, like, my dad was right around six. And I was like, Who else is told in my family? Because I was, like, always trying to figure out like I have, like, a a cousin or an uncle who's, like, almost seven foot another than that is really It's me. And I'm like, Wow. And so, Ethan, um, I think he got stumped. He got about 62 and he flatlined, and, um oh, in who is our youngest? He is like, he's he's itching. If he let his hair go for about another month and quarantine, he's gonna pass me. Uh, he's right. He's right there. And it's crazy. I don't remember four years ago looking up at my kit. Always remember, kind of like looking down at them. And then about a year and 1/2 ago, it started being I eyeball to eyeball conversation. I'm like, Whoa, that's very interesting. My neck doesn't hurt anymore.

spk_1:   16:10
Yeah, people And I'm six to I'm not tall, tall, but I'm at the short end of the what I like to say. I'm

spk_0:   16:15
sure you got, like, 61 And you just put, like, extra, like, pairs of socks on in the morning to give you a little extra lift you're not six to. There's no chance. I don't believe what your I d. Says that you

spk_1:   16:25
got a tape measure on the wall were going to write the pencil line on the door and we're gonna measure, uh, the mystery

spk_0:   16:32
spot the floors is just a little slanted. And it's

spk_1:   16:35
right. Yeah. When I get my new iPad pro thing, whatever that thing is, it's got the light, our camera on it. Oh, that's also tell me how tall I am. That's in exile. Cool, huh? Yeah. Uh, where were we? We were talking. Let's go. If you If

spk_0:   16:50
you're interviewing me, I'm one confusing to I've got tons of stories to tell which

spk_1:   16:54
I like. I listen I love

spk_0:   16:55
I do voices so we could go down any road you go.

spk_1:   16:58
That is definitely we should just have this whole thing and different.

spk_0:   17:01
Oh, I can't. I get in trouble because having a filter

spk_1:   17:04
So you mentioned Amber, though. And let's get into how we kind of met each other. So I grew up doing musical theater with your wife, Amber. And she's what, 17 18 19 years old. And she gets herself into a ah bar called the saddle rack. No

spk_0:   17:18
years in Sonny Bill on the West, El Camino between Wolf and Fair Oaks. Yep. Okay, she is 18. About to get a cosmetology license, and, uh, her friend Ah, Gina Cardinali says, Hey, you should come out with me tonight just like, No, I'm in bed. She's like, No, you should come out with me and it's like a little after 10 o'clock Finally gets Amber out of bed. And, of course, Amber going anywhere wants to look good, right? You always does. So she shows up and I'm like, looked me blown away. I'm like, Who is this woman? Right, cause so part of my job, because I was a radio air personality. I used to perform at events, and I used to broadcast live a couple days a week, and that night that she walked into my life. I was giving away Garth Brooks tickets. A pair for the station. And then I purchased a pair that, you know, hopefully I'd give to somebody who was deserving. And so in walks this just attractive, beautiful, tall, just like, good looking girl. And I'm like, you do not look like all the other Cowgirls in this bar like you. There's something uniquely different. So a bad pick up line. One thing led to another. She won a pair of tickets. We ended up, started to date and eventually we got married. And then, you know, quickly everything in my life changed because she was and has been a very stable person in my life. You know? Mom, Dad. Yes. But you know, for me, stability is something that I really needed in my life. And I didn't know it growing up. I didn't know that That's part of something in my DNA that I was lacking and I was missing. So we talk about it all the time, how she was very young. I was, you know, 5.5 6 years older than her. But we really have kind of grown up together. We've kind of gone through a lot of adversity, overcoming a lot of challenges, but really have decided, you know, through it all in all that great friends, good life partners, great couple. And we've done an amazing job of parenting, and we we like each other. So now we're empty nesting, and we're like What you want to today? It's not like what you wanna watch is like, What do you want to do? We have finally been able to create that. But looking back on my life, she's 18. I'm 24 of the time. All I saw was Hot Blonde Walk into a bar. You know, it sounds like there's a joke coming with, but yeah, I remember. I think it was like four years ago Garth Brooks was coming back to town. So I bought us like front row tickets and we went to that was so different than the tickets that I bought back in the day, it was like, Yeah, we're up their lead. So there's the nose bleed, and then there's the line just below that, that's where we're at. So

spk_1:   19:55
I will say a friend of mine and I was doing a gig in Vegas performing at a trade show, and a friend of mine happened to be there. And I think I saw on Facebook that, you know, 80 Armstrong's in Las Vegas and I texted It was like, Dude, I'm in Vegas, too, And I had work in the day but that my evenings were free and she says, Hey, what you doing Tomorrow night? We were supposed to have four people 10th row dead Center tickets to Garth Brooks at his residency in Vegas. Fourth person bailed. Do you want to come with us? And it was like I didn't even like country music at the time. It was like, Yeah, sure, why not go to this show? That man is, quite honestly, the most incredible performer I have ever seen in my entire life. Unreal. It was him in a guitar and nothing else. The lights were super subtle, nothing crazy. There's no life band. There's no special effects acoustic guitar and Garth Brooks singing, talking. And then, about halfway through the show, his life Tricia Yearwood comes out. They do a couple of duets. She leaves. He finishes just beyond immaculate performing.

spk_0:   20:57
Yeah, I think you know a lot of times, um, it wasn't until I really learned a little bit about his upbringing and you know how he performed. And he had worked, you know, earn tips in a bar and kind of cut his teeth like if you didn't come in, they're playing like classic beer drinking songs or classic songs. You probably weren't going to be asked to come back. So he quickly adapt, didn't learn James Taylor, Billy Joel. He started learning how to get kind of the vibe of the audience, and so he cut his teeth. Man knew in some of the hardest work in the world, and I watch the specials and we always say it's probably one of the top five concerts I've ever been to. I think from a standpoint of performer hands now and probably one of the most talented performers you're ever going to see. Now I've gone and, you know, I was in country music as ah D J for a long period of time. But I've been around some pretty boring country acts. You talk about Garth Brooks, you could put him up there with the best of the best. Like my very first concert that ever went to, well, always probably be one of my top five, which was prints in the Revolution in 1984 and you know you want hit Shealy on stage, you know? So she lease, banging on drums, the lights go out, glow stick allow, you know, drumsticks growing up in the air, and she's just doing it. He's doing his thing. That's how Garth Brooks is. It for. Emelia was like that. The intensity of like Justin, amazing performer. And when you think he's done, he goes for like, another hour and he's just like we're having fun yet it just keeps going. And so it's not one of those concerts where there's, like, a perfect set list. And hey, we're gonna play are 12 songs were to say Reaganites and bye bye. You know

spk_1:   22:30
what He's like, a guy you legitimately wanna hang out. You could sit down with him and have a beer with him and not you could a lot just be watching. It's not really realized. You could have a non non alcoholic one in school longer need to stop water. I'm a big fan of that. That's what you gotta try. You like Holly. Anyways, uh, one thing I really liked about him, which you kind of hit on which is, you know, talking about raising your family, being a good parent. He essentially took 18 years off to raise his kids. He stopped touring and just was not Garth Brooks anymore. He was dad.

spk_0:   23:02
Yeah, he had a He came back. He tried to be that split character. He tried to come back. You never listen to that. You should look that up. But he did release a whole album, as I think it was Chris.

spk_1:   23:12
Oh, yeah, I remember this.

spk_0:   23:14
Remember the last part of his name. But he came back and trying to be this other person. The problem is his voice is so unique, But he like he just got an award. Maybe a couple months back before Cove. It and everybody wasn't social distancing, and his job was once again he had his band with him, but it was his guitar, and he talked about how to win an audience over on how to get everybody to sing. And everybody in there is Paul it, You know, politicians and their stuffy like code said, you know, I want to get up. And by the end of it, eyes yet everybody was standing up singing along. And that is what he said that he would do every single night in a bar. He just knew how to, you know, really conveyed to a crowd. Kind of like you and theater. Like when we came to see you with Ethan to know in an amber. And we saw you in Denver. Um, you know, being a performer, it takes a lot because the vibe of the of the audience really can either help you or you could be sitting there and your head the whole time and go this ox Oh, yeah. So on the off them

spk_1:   24:16
and realize that how much their energy it's a, uh, like a positive or a negative luke cycle. If you don't have good energy from your audience like you're saying, you are just counting down them the milliseconds in your brain until Europe stage. And you know the show I did in Denver you're talking about was where I was the symphony host. And so it's a circus in Symphony Show and I'm the clown character and they hand me a microphone and it's quite legitimately go make these people laugh, Go make him have fun. While the orchestra, and it's a very high level professional orchestra that I'm working with and some super high level circus performers. And it's just you meet like where the material come from me. And sometimes I had those moments where it was just God awful. This is counting down the seconds. Still I can leave, and other times it was I understand. I will say I understand why rock stars and famous people get into some hard core drugs because the feeling you get when you are on stage and you up thousands of people loving you, there's no way to replace it. And so I can understand how you could fall down a path of of serious drug usage to try and get that feeling back. When you're not on stage, it's Ah, it's a feeling like no other and I

spk_0:   25:28
don't know what you're talking about. I don't have any of those issues, but I do want to talk about something that I think most people miss out on. That's the conductor. Yeah, we have to live our life very much like a conductor. We have to turn our backs to the critics. We have to not allow all the haters and the people who are like mad at us or frustrated with us to define us or to make us go do something else, like one of the lessons that I talk about in my journal I talk about every day when I coach Mentor people is is like the noise that you and I are having is the real conversation people need to pay attention to. So there's a lot of stuff that you can watch on television to help you to escape. There's nothing wrong with escaping, but there's nowhere to escape to, because if you don't work on the noise that's in your head, Ah, the critics are always gonna get louder. It's like the volume on your stereo when Grandma says, What'd you say? And and she says, Could you turn that down? And nope, they just gets louder and louder and louder and louder and louder. And one of the one of the greatest lessons that I've learned along my short career as an entrepreneur and as a business owner is that everybody is going to say something. Everybody's going to say something regardless, and your job as a police officer, my job as an owner of a business. Your job as a husband, my job as a husband. Your job is your hobby or whatever it may be my job, and my hobby is to remember to have fun. And I think so many people allow outside influences to take away their joy, their true happiness. And then they start shifting into somebody they're not, and then they realize crap. I'm living somebody else's dream. I have totally lost mine. Yeah, so part of part of why I say that is because the conductor to me play such a big role in my life of like, you need to turn your back sometimes to the world. I think you know what? I got this, and I'm going to do this my way. And there's a lot of songs that talk about that. There's a lot of things in life, and I'm not saying for myself your self centered or egotistical kind of way. I'm just saying Hey, you know what I've done pretty good for myself by relying on very close friends and I consider you one of them and great council that you have to have, really you have to surround yourself with impeccable people, people who are willing to risk it with you to challenge your beliefs and your thinking. But people that are today who love and support you and they're not gonna hurt you And you really need to work really, really hard at filling up your your life with those types of people

spk_1:   28:07
I have for so long. You know, there's the classic thing of your the some of the five people you spend the most time with, which is so true what

spk_0:   28:15
you got. Goats, chickens, roosters. Um, uh, whatever those songbirds are and your wife. So they're explain. Please. Empty Go all in

spk_1:   28:24
way, don't we? Don't necessarily want. So let's see a ghost that headbutt chickens that poop everywhere so hard it sounds about like, uh, no. So it's It's interesting, though, because as a performer, I will say I had a good amount of success. I also had a very mediocre career, like I never got to do some of the most incredible things I wanted to do. My dreams really true. Didn't hit some of those dreams that I had as a kid. I'm gonna be a star. I'm gonna be famous I'm gonna do this didn't happen. And I'm glad. In a sense, it didn't happen because I've gotten to realize what life is about, in a sense, and part of that is that I want to be a person who experiences like the way I want it to be. And I don't want life to happen to me. I want to make it happen and this is getting out What what you were kind of talking about. And part of the reason, as I mentioned why I started this podcast was getting your journal and, uh, you can explain the journal. I don't want to put any words into that, but it's It's something that got me to identify. What are the things I really want to do? How do I want to be spending my time every day and what is important to me? And one of the things that was important to me was having a creative outlet and having a way to talk to people. And for those who know me and for those who listen to the podcast, I am a person who likes to talk, but what I like to do and if you ever met my mother. People will always laughin. Amber could tell you this and you sit down with my mom and she will spend 45 minutes asking you every single detail about your life. And that was one of the things before she died. That was one of the things that everyone would always laugh about it and talk about it, just like how amazing it was that your mom just it doesn't matter if she just met you. If she's known you for 20 years, she wants to know every single detail. And that's something I really picked up from. My mom is my love of talking to people. I really love knowing people stories I like knowing how they got from point A to point B to point C. You know how you started out as a guy who played water polo and Soquel and went from there to a college and became a radio deejay at a country station, which, if I remember correctly, you weren't even that big of a country music fan, per se. It was just like, Hey, here's it. Here's a gig and then you went from there is starting a business have been starting another business, and that business turned into the one the very successful one you're running right now, which you're you're gonna have to tell us about. And then that one into you becoming a mentor and a coach, and that's where we kind of became even closer. Friends now is through that whole experience and crafting the life. You want a craft?

spk_0:   30:40
Yeah, You got two choices. I've been saying it more so. Problem in the last week or two that I really think this is probably going to be a chapter in my new book that I'm writing is like you two choices. You can sit, knew nothing or get up and do something right so you can stay where you're at. There's nothing wrong with it if you want to stay miserable. Or maybe you're completely happy. Awesome. Great. Congratulations. But I'm a real true believer that we're all created with one thing and we all have the same. You're the same operating system installed in all of us. I really, truly believe it. Um, I'm just my whole craft in my whole thing. That I do now is help people to tap into their greatness. You were created for something. You weren't created just to be average. I'm sorry. You know, like I have a really, really dear friend of mine. Um, who's basically the front lines. The first responder who is basically in a hospital every day helping, you know, people coming in and working long and crazy hours. But I knew that person from completely something else. I didn't learn that. Meet that person. I would have never have met that person unless I said these words. Yes, you have to kind of say yes to some crazy shit. You just do You have to kind of say yes to some uncertainty. You're just like, sure, let's figure it out. Because I found that the best thing that ever done in life didn't come from saying no. They came from saying yes, they just came from like, if I don't like it, we called it when we were raising our kids like you have to try it. And if you don't like it, you have to say no, thank you. You don't have to take it. We called it a no, thank you bite. But you have to try it. And that has been some of the best. Yes, is that I've ever said. Like when when I got the opportunity to go play water polo in Russia, my mom didn't have the kind of money My dad didn't have the kind of money that it would take to take me and plant me there. But my coach came up to me. Mr Do four. And he said, Hey, I've got an option for you. Would you be interested in talking to this person? May be about getting a scholarship. Yes. If I didn't say yes and I would like was so prideful, I wouldn't have what I have today. Which is this foundation will say, like, yes, Like let's figure it out. Sure, yes. Yes. Has got me into trouble. Yes. Has gotten me into taking drugs. Yes. Has got me to do a lot of stupid things. But it's all because I said yes that I have the life I have today, you know. So, Jim Carey, I love I love that movie. Yes, man. Because it shows you what kind of like a a big way what your life could be like if you just said yes to the opportunities. It doesn't mean you have to say yes to doing everything He drink like 100 red bulls. And then you saw what happened. He passed out. But did he did that. And then he kind of found a little bit of who he was along the journey. And so when I say you can sit where you're at, you could do nothing Awesome where you can say yes to doing something crazy. So two weeks ago, a body of mine posted on Facebook. He's like, Hey, I'm gonna do the 75 hard challenge Who's in? And I said yes. I didn't even know what that freak the challenge. Waas. I didn't realize it every day for the next 75 days. I can't miss a single day after the 45 minutes indoor outdoor out activity. So it's two workouts a day, no alcohol, Which I can figure that out. No cheap mills, no desert. Take a take a selfie Read 10 pages in a book. I hate reading. I really do. I like listening like that that I was like All right, I got to do that. All right. What did I just say? Yes to today was like day 14. I was like, It's getting easier. But the moment the alarm went off on day one, it wasn't like pop out of bed and let's go now. I'm like, Alright, my routine shifted my energy by the time we're filming this already got two workouts in for the day. You know, I've already said how

spk_1:   34:19
Good morning. Where your? Yes.

spk_0:   34:21
So I got my two workouts in. I'm almost a 10,000 steps for the day. And, you know, I've already eaten breakfast. I've already done half of my calls, and I said to my business partner yesterday, I said, You know, I think I'm gonna be done, but with my work days around two or three, from here on out, I'm gonna figure out how to shift something so that awareness wouldn't have come if I would have stayed stuck in my normal routine.

spk_1:   34:44
Yeah, you brought up something a while back that has really stuck with me. And it was that you realized you are good at a lot of things that you love doing, and there's a lot of things related to your job specifically that you just did not like doing and freeing yourself up to focus on the things you want to do and want to spend your time on and allowing someone else to do the things that you don't that they might genuinely like.

spk_0:   35:10
You are wise, Matt. Yes, otherwise, yeah, I know the the drain Er's and drivers that something. Anybody listening. You can just go to trainers and drivers dot com, and it's a free five day, like many course online. Go sign up for that. I highly recommend it. You'll have graders, and you'll have drivers things that you do things that you love that are draining you at times. And you're like, Why? I used to love this, But I don't anymore. Well, because there's so much other stuff going on that is taking you away from what you do love. Yeah. You know, your job. Like, for being a police officer. I'd love to talk for, like, a minute or two about that. Um, there are things that probably drain you and drive you about your job, right? And when you get out doing what you love about your job, you like meeting the people? Yes. You like being of service? Yes, You like toe have a little bit of fun. And I got to tell you, in the last several weeks, I've heard more about law enforcement showing up and making kids laugh, rescuing you know, animals and setting them free and doing good things. Crime? Yes, it's still crime. But you know what? Like I'm I'm actually encouraged to see police officers getting some bright light shined on them. Um, because you know what? At the end of the day, you keep ah, a little bit of the calmness in our world, like, uh, last week, Kid turned 18 and I didn't read about it, Didn't know about it, but some mom said, You know, my son, he really likes cars, shows we can't go to a car show, put in a little like bulletin out on Facebook, and 500 cars showed up to go up and down the street. You've been to my house, the street behind us, and I called the non essential like emergency line. And I'm like, Hey, I don't know what's going on, and they're like, Oh, we're totally under. We're totally aware of it. It's under control. There's police officers on both ends of Mike.

spk_1:   37:08
Okay, Great.

spk_0:   37:09
And I talked to my buddy who works for the for the department. And it was all managed. And at first I was like, Where are the cops? And the cops need to be here, man. And it just It just reminds me, man, you guys don't get enough love, So I want to love on you and tell you thanks for your service. Thanks. For every single day when you put on that vest and get in your patrol car, you are putting yourself in harm's way to bring clarity and safety. And I just I just want to say thank you for the your commitment and what you do for your community. Because you know what? It's not easy being at. Imagine being a police officer in Chicago.

spk_1:   37:46
It definitely is not

spk_0:   37:49
so I just wanted to love on you for landed. Tell you

spk_1:   37:51
Well, thank you, man And Ideo. You hit the nail on the head with with Why? What I love about my job. I'm a bike cop. I get to ride a bike. When? When there are events that require a bike. It is the most efficient way of moving around a crowd. It's It's far faster. You're not in a car where you're waiting for people to Teoh, move out and let you have a very fancy lights and sirens eventually will get electric bikes, which will be I just ordered 10 talk to me. I just ordered. I ordered it. We're gonna talk about that a second because I love with the electric bikes. We can have a whole segment on electric bikes enough, but it's talking to people. The the Cubs season was canceled or, you know it's in essence, canceled. There is no season. One of my favorite things about it is that we are called the entertainment detail. We stand outside of entertainment that you Wrigley Field bars, night clubs, restaurants, places where lots of people will gather for entertainment purposes and were there to protect them. And I love talking to people, and I always have balloon animals in my pocket. I will invariably beat the cutest kid on the face of the planet and pull out of balloon, and I'm the police officer stating has been making of the live animal for them, and people just like what just happened here. It's well, you've got a cop who used to be a circus performer who still has all of that in him, and none of that's going away. So I don't know what you expect, but that's that's what I am and who I am. And I love it. You mentioned animals and helping animals. We just had a video. There's two geese every year that lay eggs on top of our third floor parking lot at our station, and about four days ago they were all born and the G started walking down the parking ramp. And it's about 1/2 a mile to Lakeshore Drive or the lake. And we had three or four cops who spent some no, probably the better part of an hour walking these two geese, and they're seven babies all the way to the lake so that these geese could make it there safely and that they could raise their babies in the lake because they found a safe place in land. But then they got to get past some major major roadways. We had somebody drop off a chicken at our house the other day, and that was an officer who found a chicken in a forest. Preserve it. We're currently fostering a chicken named Gladys. Who? I think just

spk_0:   39:59
to ask Gladys if that was her name or you just gave Gladys her name.

spk_1:   40:03
We gave Gladys her name, but it was the either the wife or the mother of one of the officers who brought her to us. So named after ah, loving lady. So we have Gladys the chicken right now.

spk_0:   40:15
I like that. Hey, you know what? When you said you had balloon animals in your pants, I just

spk_1:   40:20
dirty when you say it

spk_0:   40:21
does. Hi. My name is Matt. And when I'm not being a cop, I have balloon animals in my pants. This whole show just went sideways.

spk_1:   40:37
Diagonal? I'd like to think. Okay, No electric bikes. So we were just talking. We got a new electric bikes for a hot second. I want you to tell Talk to me about this new electric bike you got because I love electric.

spk_0:   40:50
All right, so I played water polo for a long time, played basketball for a long period of time. I've had 60 surgeries. My knees were pretty much shot. So I've been writing my pellet on almost daily for the last 90 days, you know, really consistently. And my knees don't hurt. And I'm ready to kind of, like, step up my engagement and get outside. So

spk_1:   41:10
And you live where, Huh? Where do you live?

spk_0:   41:13
We live in Colorado. We live in a community called back Country, but it's in Highlands Ranch. And so right behind us

spk_1:   41:20
just outside of Denver, though, for those?

spk_0:   41:21
Yeah, you look, uh, 8000. I think it's 8000 acres of basically backcountry, so people ride their bikes, go on trails, etcetera

spk_1:   41:33
tree. I'm thinking, man, like there's a cave somewhere that you can drive your

spk_0:   41:36
No eso My buddy Kurt, who lives here of my childhood friend where I got drunk in his house. His parents were to blame. Ah, he said, Hey, I'm thinking about getting a bike. I'm like, Well, I think about getting a bike. What you gonna get? And he's like, Well, I'm looking at these e bikes and, like, Well, I mean,

spk_1:   41:50
I'm looking at evil ex,

spk_0:   41:52
so we started talking. He got a specialized Ah Leveaux bike. The turbo Leveaux. Um so I said, screw it like, uh, tell me where it is and what I need to do so. I ordered my bike last week and everything. I think part of my my bike is getting dropped off right now. Um

spk_1:   42:11
so slimy to Colorado. No. Put it together for you.

spk_0:   42:14
I think it's gonna be put together, I think. Ah, you're like the helmet. I got some pedals. Isn't that weird? You buy a bike and they don't frickin pedals on the bike like that's well,

spk_1:   42:21
because people are so particular about their fancy pedals. Like someone

spk_0:   42:25
I hate straps. I'm getting

spk_1:   42:26
strapped. Oh, you might don't get straps. But if you get the clip ins, you get a flip flop pedal. Where does a clip on one side and a flat platform on the other? Once you get used to riding with planet with with clips, it's unreal. Now, if you have an electric bike, you don't need the power aspect of it as much. But it's pretty awesome. I will say,

spk_0:   42:46
Yeah, I know it goes 20 miles an hour, so I'm excited. So Kurt yesterday brought it by my house and I wrote it around just like around my area. And I was like, Dude, this thing is fast and

spk_1:   42:58
one that has is the drive like the motor in the bottom bracket with

spk_0:   43:02
Uh huh,

spk_1:   43:03
Yeah, those that That's the way to go.

spk_0:   43:04
And they just one little knob for your gear. You just push a button and it goes up or down, depending on what it feels. And then the APP tells you your height in conveys all the energy. And so it knows, like what it needs to do. There's a button for the seat so the C goes up or the C goes down. Ah, yeah. So it's really, really cool. Um, so you're riding and you're like, I'm gonna go down a hill and then you can just drop it. If you're about to do a job, you could make it go flat

spk_1:   43:26
so you don't hurt yourself. Do any jumps on your electric bike? Tony, please.

spk_0:   43:30
Oh, my used to race bike. So I'm excited to get back into getting dirty. So I'm excited to to go in the mountains and then we'll,

spk_1:   43:37
when I get back out to Colorado, I'm going to borrow your buddies and we'll have to go a little trail through

spk_0:   43:42
eso. Amber, we're gonna get Amber one. So we've been talking about that. So she wants She wants to do it. So we're excited. Actually, I almost bought a fat tire mount because I just want to go in the snow. I want to go, right It. So the moral of this story for me is I'm getting like a little schoolboy and I'm excited for the opportunity. Teoh, get outside. I'm gonna start right into my office. My commitment is one day a week. Eventually, I hope it's 2 to 3 days a week in the summer time because it's now all trailed out. And there's all of this pave road as well. And I can just go straight from one end to the other. So I'm like, Hey, that's gonna be something fun. And for me, um, I need a challenge. I think I told you with, like saying yes to 75 whatever it is in life,

spk_1:   44:26
that look at that when you told me about it, I'm like, maybe we'll cool it to this, but it's you might get today 37. And if you missed day 38 you start over at day one there. You know, it's

spk_0:   44:40
it's one of those things for me. Um, I would challenge you mad for a penny, because for me, the mindset around the opportunity is the commitment with the community. And I need that. So, like what? I've said that from the very beginning. So I've got a bunch of friends and this we keep each other accountable. We're posting what we're doing. We have. Ah, I don't know if you call it a a death date. People like what we're kind of gambling on when people are gonna die out, not complete. So it's interesting. It's been fun. There's a little smack talking the group, huh?

spk_1:   45:17
The ghoul pool is Ah, there's a thing where every year it's Ah, where's the first death? It was the first shooting death or death in Chicago. We're gonna happen, you know. What district? What areas? It's just It's a sad reality of life. It might not even be an hour after midnight. It might be the minute midnight strikes. I mean, it's it's depressing, but it's you know what? What district is that gonna happen?

spk_0:   45:37
Yeah, and so I just I need a challenge. And finally, if you're not, if I'm not being challenged, I hope that someone comes around challenges me because I'll be like, Sure, let's go.

spk_1:   45:47
So is this Can I officially assume this is a challenge on getting on a recorded? I can? Absolutely OK, so it is 11 52 in the morning on Wednesday, April 29th in Chicago. I am saying yes to so hard. 75. Tony

spk_0:   46:06
Cool. So 75 hard dot com It's all free tons of people do it. Don't get scared. Get like, I think the thing that is challenged most. I just got a brand new book to I just brought it home. Um is to challenge yourself, right? Push yourself, I There's a part of me that says During when I came back, Amber and I got back from Europe on the 10th of March. I wish I would have started, like, a couple days after, right, because and once again, this is my thoughts. That's why I'm glad I didn't say yes until I said yes. Um, I would be halfway done. Yeah, right. Like how my brain works my brains, like we should have said yes earlier. Um, but man, the buddy of mine who is really in the group, who's helping me. He's already done it. And he said it was life changing for him. Mindset, clarity, mental, like everything about it was like, good. He's like, I've never felt better already dropped, like almost £15. Um, in two weeks, Um, stick. I'm a vegetarian. So I've stuck really good to my diet and, you know, been able to push myself and some trying to find protein and other sources. So it's just been really, really good. But yeah, I'm excited. So let's just do some calculated math really quick. 75 days from today, said the 29th that would put you at

spk_1:   47:27
lovely The 30th. So shuts July. You're going to be into July. Yeah, July 15. Roughly speaking is number. That's a good

spk_0:   47:35
birthday. That's your friend. Amber's birthday. That's my wife's birthday. So it worked out. You know what you said yes to

spk_1:   47:40
so good. Happy birthday. Ever. Yeah, We smelt

spk_0:   47:44
You'll be able to eat cake that day if you get through it. So there's no alcohol there. Your meal care that

spk_1:   47:50
I know. Yeah, Actually, I I used to drink a lot more for enjoyments. Now I have, like, what? Not enjoyment. I mean I used to drink and spend a lot more time drinking. Now it's like I'll have one or two if I have more than two drinks any given day, I sleep terribly like it's awful. So it's not even fun per se.

spk_0:   48:09
So I forgot. There's no there's no rock stars. No. So does

spk_1:   48:14
commit drink coffee? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't drink soda in general. You

spk_0:   48:18
can't put sugar in your coffee.

spk_1:   48:19
Yeah. Oh, no. A zai like to say I like my coffee like my women. Hot, bitter. Um, all black coffee. That's that's on. That's when I got right here. Can you see it's there? Well, that's a silver bottom, but have

spk_0:   48:31
you seen? I just saw it last night. I shared it with Amber that that for, like, everybody's doing zoom meetings Or like, a lot of corporate executives were doing so good. Meaning So they're taking that

spk_1:   48:39
putting the red wine. And that's the bottom off the tea bag. Yeah. Said so. It's the attack of her tea and her Starbucks slug like, yeah, yeah, No. Great idea. I don't do that. Don't do that. Many energy drinks dessert. I can give her take. I'm definitely. It's not a huge thing for me. I'm just

spk_0:   48:56
learning to be creative. I think that's where it comes into. It's like, How many different ways can you cut up an apple?

spk_1:   49:04
Julianne in the care six. Yeah.

spk_0:   49:07
Uh, no, it's good. And you know what's really great? Um, my partner, you know, she's She's like, Hey, you know, I can already notice Psycho. And so that's those are the little gentle things that, as as somebody going through any kind of processor program, is the little acknowledgement gives me the fire. My dogs getting up and we're training were training all over now in the morning, my all

spk_1:   49:26
about two years old over the cutest poodle ever. And he's any the Cubist terrorists ever.

spk_0:   49:32
Oh, my gosh in. She's a pain in the butt right now. So, um, but, you know, getting up every morning. And so my Neumeier new routine is getting me up at 4 15 for 20 the morning out, walking at 4 30 Well, but you know what? I but I've learned to do this. I live in a place where there's very little light at that time of night or morning, and I got to see in here birds chirping. You concede like a little rabbits running around about country, and it's really put me a little bit better mindset with my dog. I'm thinking he's training me more than I'm training him. And I got to see the world, man. It's still it's calm. It's quiet. I mean, I have not been able to look. I'm probably, Ah, 40 minute drive from downtown Denver. I can actually see Denver from my place. Clear causes. There's no small. There's no congestion

spk_1:   50:23
from my house,

spk_0:   50:25
so it's really nice. It's been really cool just to be able Teoh to see. So every morning I take a selfie of all over. I get to take a picture of him watching his transformation to wait isn't

spk_1:   50:36
a selfie. Technically, you taking the but

spk_0:   50:39
if you can't take one, So I put my paws on it and did it. I'm taking a picture of my dog every morning, so it's been really, really need just to watch his transformation. And so at the end, I'm gonna put a collage of he's only missed two days. One. It wasn't his fault. The second day I was like I want to walk faster

spk_1:   50:56
are you? Put them on the treadmill next year when you're working on inside.

spk_0:   50:59
No, he's sleeping during that time. Cassie gets his butt kicked in the morning with this walk, but it's been also good. And if you follow me on social media, you'll see a lot of the videos that I put out. Um gives me a lot of head space and clarity. You have been kind

spk_1:   51:12
of just training spring. Talk to me about talk, bring feel about your company and then talk to me about be fulfilled because those air two huge things

spk_0:   51:19
they're both in alignment with each other. Which is interesting because when I first started our business, it would use to be called. I five was based in California. We moved to Colorado coming up 10 years in July. Um, and it's a fulfillment logistics business, and at first it was just shipping. You know, our own products, like the health wellness space to our customers and then kind of midway, like I think our second or third year, we kind of saw that the real opportunity wasn't necessarily us being marketers selling to our customers or was selling host cell to people who knew how to build less, knew how to market. And so our business quickly grew into, you know, uh, like a six figure business turned into a seven figure business. And then we started realizing, Well, maybe you've got something. And over the last 19 years of running this business, it has evolved into many facets of going out and creating products. We have over 50 in our catalogue and allowing people the opportunity to put their name on it. And we'll send it to your customer and we'll send you an invoice at the end of the week. So really, you're getting product upfront, selling it to your customers. You have to be, ah, medium to large size business to work with us. I used to in our day spent a lot of our time training. I call him newbies, which is not a very good term. Just people just starting out. And now I focus my energy and time on working with people who have, like you, spend a lot of time in the health and wellness industry, but have decided to do something with the craft and said, Hey, I've written a book. I know how to get traffic and, you know, I know how to build a model. I just need a supplier. So that's one facet of our business and that I love it and it's fulfillment, and it's very rewarding from the sense of, like where we're doing something good, we're providing a service. But there was this piece inside of me, and I think that goes back to my childhood. And there was this piece of like, Man, I'm missing something. And what I realized was I was missing some personal fulfillment kind of what we've talked a little bit about in a couple areas today about trying to find what it is that you love to do. That's what maybe you've been doing. But, like, what is it that you really love to do? And I was personally challenged on multiple occasions to figure out what that looks like. One was when I attempted suicide. Ah, a little over 11 years ago. My buddy John, give me a hug. He saved my life, he says. You know, Tony, your life has meaning and purpose. But what you're doing right now does it. And we started talking about what meeting and purpose Waas and meeting on purpose has really been. One of the kind of the kind of standing ideas in my life is like, What's my meaning? What's my purpose? How am I gonna show up and who am I going to serve and how am I going to do it? So I realized that I've been through a lot. I've only shared just a very small fraction of my life story today, and what it's done is created a lot of life lessons that I have, like anything that comes my way. I know how to turn on the windshield wipers today and clean clean the glass like, but I was frozen a lot of times and realized I didn't have any fluid. I didn't have an ability. My wipers were dirty, you know, like I didn't know what I was doing. And so I felt stuck. Once I got clarity, I realized that I started helping a lot of people, and so that quickly helped me to realize Wow, I found my personal fulfillment. So I offer and work all day in the professional world, and now I've managed to take it and find the professional fulfillment of my life, and I talk a little bit. You heard me when you were drinking and saying, Why can't drink? That's not what I could do. You know, I ended up in recovery on 12. 15 of 08 and having had a drink or a drug since, based on the premise of my life works when I'm not putting stuff into it that changed the way I feel. But instead talk about how I feel that was like The biggest thing for me is I didn't know how to talk about what I was feeling. So I used to act out or go do what I needed to do. The reality is today more so than ever, um, you know, suicide is a za high level marital issues that are high level Children of you child abuse, like all these things at a high level financial like you. So much pressure and noise and friction. And so I just wanted to do something about it. I wanted to find a way to get back what was given to me. I wanted to go find a way to put my thoughts down on paper. So somehow, along the way. I got enough stuff down and people go, Hey, what could you do with this? I'm like, I don't know. I'm like I tried writing a book. I am writing a book now, but I was like, It's not for me. I think I need to do something else. And so the be Fulfilled Journal is really, um, 12 week journey to fulfillment, helping you to kind of work through a lot of things that you have maybe gone through So you can kind of figure out what it is that you really want your life to be. And so many of us, unfortunately, are stuck living somebody else's dream, and we're not living ours. And so when you and I started chatting and I mentioned my journal and I gave you a copy your like awesome musical, I'm gonna dig in. I'm like, I can't begin to tell you how many people say that the reality is. Most people put it in their library or put it on their table and put like their warm beverage on it because it's a blue book. It looks cool. Comes in the night. Little nice little white box, Very nice box. But the reality is, is the moment you open and pick it up. There's hope. And then as you turn the page each day and you kind of get into the lessons, you start realizing that there's more to this and then just a journal, and I don't like to journal myself. But what I have realized is is the reason it was created for working professionals like you and me is because I just know I need to unpack some things that I'm thinking and get him down so I can see them, because in your head it's like a hard drive on a computer or on your phone. Eventually it fills up and you don't remember all the pictures you've took. But you know, you need to take a picture right now. So I'm a big believer in reflection. I'm a big believer and go back and look it like how far you've come. So you know you're capable of going any place you want to go. And one of my favorite chapters in this this whole book in The Journal is really the chapter for all of us, which is called Life's Dumpster. We've all been responsible for pushing life stumps. Do we push it into everything? It's the good, the bad, the ugly. Everything you've gone through is human. Um, and you don't realize what's in your life Stump. Stir until you do this exercise, and then you realize that all your love ones are on the other side of it, and you just been pushing your entire life into him. So when I was able to get really, really clear and free, I realized, and I did a lot of damage. And now I have a lot of freedom because I walked to the other side of the dumpster, grabbed my wife's hands, my kids turn my back to the dumpster, and I had for the first time in front of me wide open, clear space to create and be as creative as geniuses. I want to be with nobody telling me I can't. So I created like Picasso. I could paint again. I could I could play music. I could, you know, star in a movie. I could do anything I wanted because there was nothing holding me back from where I wanted to go. And so much of what's in front of us for is everything we believe we can't. That's why yes is such a powerful word. And yes, when you get busy, you're gonna need to say, Learn how to say no or not. Right now, that will become a good word. But say yes to something. Say yes to a challenge. Say yes to a new opportunity because their life changing and the journal to me is very. It's therapeutic. It's simple, It's It takes 5 to 10 minutes in the morning and then before you go to bed at night, it just kind of doesn't follow up. Check in and say, How was your day? Like what was one thing you learned? You know, what do you grateful for in the evening time? Because so many of us start with gratitude. I end every day with gratitude. I'm super grateful for you, man. I'm super grateful that you went through it super grateful that by you going through, we got to build a better relationship. Those are the little things that I get to see is like the ah ha's the winds of taking an idea had in my head. Enough people said you should do it and then saying yes to it. Like I did not know how I was gonna build a journal. I did not know what I was going to do. The first company I went with was in Chicago and very cool, but it was super expensive. And I was like, There is no way I could monetize this. There is no way that I could get this into everybody's hands that I want because I can't afford it. Sell it at that price. Yeah, And then one thing led to another, and I I started learning. And now I've been able to take it and help tons of our customers go get products made. And now I've helped. I think six different people start selling journals all because I wanted to go find something of fun for myself. And I think that's what you are talking about today, you know, from being a police officer, being the guy with, you know, a little you know, animals in his pocket, too, you know, writing on, you know, unit cycle. Or, you know, being on a cruise ship, entertaining or being married, raising animals or whatever it is. It's like life is about playing but so much of us forget to have fun in the process. And so what we're really doing is just being stuck thinking, you know, when is this thing gonna add? And the whole the whole thing behind the Journal? My mission in life and everything is to be of service contribution to make the world

spk_1:   59:50
a better place. You definitely do it. When I started a journal, I kind of the five big goals I gave for myself. One was actually starting a podcast, as I think it was. Maybe week Tour Week three, where you get into that and I identified I want to start a podcast. And within, I think, two weeks I had purchased the website. I had come up with the name I about the equipment I needed, and within a few short weeks of that, I actually had my first episode. And now you're, I guess, Episode nine already. So I'm Can

spk_0:   1:0:19
you use your soft radio voice and give me the late night version of how that would sound? When

spk_1:   1:0:27
I first heard of Tony's book Be Fulfilled Journal. It was a random meeting in Colorado with him, his wife, I was given one of those journals. And when I came home I cracked open this beautiful blue book inside of Ah, brilliant white box. I realized my life would never be different. Wait would totally be different. I don't I just ruin that one anyway. So there you go. I always said I had a face for radio anyway.

spk_0:   1:0:49
Oh, I have been saying that for years. Thanks, brother. I'm glad. Glad you to

spk_1:   1:0:53
absolutely, definitely have the mustache for it, but, uh, yeah, and so I got my podcast started. I also decided I wanted a cut some weight. I wasn't fat. I just wasn't happy with. Where is that? I went from 1 92 I weighed 1 77 this morning and two more pounds to lose by the end of the month. Which I once I start 75 75 Harder. Hard 75

spk_0:   1:1:13
75. Hard. There's a slogan that goes 100% or zero.

spk_1:   1:1:20
I like it.

spk_0:   1:1:21
So it's it's gonna change your world on my one recommendation is at least mention it to your wife. Yes. Tell her. Hey, I'm gonna do

spk_1:   1:1:28
is it sure? I guarantee she basically already lives 75 heart. She will be like she'll finish working at, Let's say, nine PM 10 oclock at night. Go to bed. Need to be back at work at seven AM And she'll get up at 4 30 so she can go work out beforehand where I'm like, I'm gonna hit snooze, which have stopped Ted. Excuse for the record,

spk_0:   1:1:48
good smells doesn't work. Snoozes lose.

spk_1:   1:1:51
So stop getting students. But she'll just hate four hours asleep. I feel better when I get a 45 minute workout in. Then if I get 45 more minutes of work out, she is 100 hard. I mean, I can tell you that that's what eso It's not gonna be a thing that it even I will mention it and she will be 100% onboard with it. So So, yes. So you're my my my inspiration.

spk_0:   1:2:13
Hey, don't worry about it. You'll hate me or you love me one way or the other. You

spk_1:   1:2:15
go. I'll love you. Look, that I was talking about this earlier and actually kind of got off track. But one of the things I realize is a performer in a person, you know, I was successful enough is a performer, but a lot of people want to just tell you the things you think you want to hear and they blow smoke up your ass. And that does not help you become a better person. And you're really friends are the ones who are going to look you in the eye and say, Hey, look like your buddy did when you were ready to commit suicide. Like what you're doing right now is not working for you, and and somebody has to call you on. And those are your best friends, the ones who are willing to make that call because the rest of the world can just keep walking by. And that's not who I wanted to. My friends. I want the ones who care about me enough to have that uncomfortable, if necessary, conversation.

spk_0:   1:2:56
Yeah, the best conversations are going to be uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, because otherwise it just sugar coated with, like, B s. And I'm like Britney Spears. Bible study, Bruce Springsteen. No, like bullshit. And you really you really need to hear the message. Because when I was kind of like running my racket running the show, I called my mom one night to tell her something, and I asked her a question or something. In some 44 minutes later, I was finally like, Hey, you know what? The 45 minute mark I was like, Mom, you know, you're right. I do have a problem with drinking. I do need some help. Moms know bass, right? You hear that a lot. There's a reason, right. They know you people who know you know better, and they know that you could be better. But what you're doing right now isn't working. So you hope that you pick up that phone and you send a text to that person or call that person or knock on their door and tell him that you love them and you shouldn't quit or doubt people. I was Iraq. My wife and I, we were separated for almost three years, lived apart. And if that is doable, um, almost $1,000,000 in debt. Um, how to move? How to drop off a car dealership? How did, like, literally start all over long as you can get through it with a good partner or you can get through it by yourself. But I think we're better together, so find somebody that you can ask for help to just be there. I have so grateful that I've been so blessed with some really, really good mentors, good people who love on me help me to grow. See, my see my blind spots. And that was something else that the journal helped me to do is to see more of my blind spots. And now I'm going back and making some adjustments. And so the next the next one comes out, we're gonna keep, you know, refining it and get better. We're making a large version of it. Um, but because my mom stayed consistent during that 44 minute conversation, it allowed me at the 45 minute mark to say I need help. Those words Never. We're gonna come from my mouth unless my mom just kept loving me and saying, Hey, look it, you could do better. And I know deep down inside of anybody listening to this or anybody watching this or anybody in this world like where you're at is awesome. But there's more and I need more challenges in my life. I don't need more problems. I need more opportunities to expand and grow my mind. So reading a book, best thing in this challenge I don't like it. But I guarantee you, by the end it's going to be amazing. Drinking a gallon of water a day. Not a hard thing to do, but something at first, it's gonna be a lot harder than most. No sweets. All right, cool. You know, a couple things that I've already known. It's like I don't have a craving for sugar. I used to eat like a rack of Oreos every night and watch like reruns of I love Lucy. I mean, it was not good. So you start making these little minor shifts and you realize and I am capable, But anything that you're gonna start today is either yes or no. And any time you say yes, they're still gonna be doubt. Because doubt is something that we as humans have we have easier. We have worry. We have remorse. We have this in back of my mind. I'm not good enough. No one's gonna love me. People are already calling me out, saying I'm gonna quit. I won't make it. I mean, guess what? Welcome to the real world that's called life, and what we have to do is stand up. And one of my mentors always tells me Grow thick rhino skin like get thick rhino skin to be like your best friend. Grow it and keep it because the world's throwing daggers at you and you need to be able to say whatever they like the conductor. Turn your back to them and just do your own thing. But do your own thing and, like, challenge yourself today like I'm I told Amber when I first started, I barely could do push ups because I had done push ups and so long. So my goal is when I get to the end of 75 Hard is to do 75 consecutive push ups like That's not something that I can do today, but I'm like, all right, I can do it multiple times during the day and just try to get stronger and better. And so, by the end, I'm gonna want to be able to knock out 75 consecutive push ups, right? So I'm challenging myself to grow, not just saying yes to the challenge, but beyond the challenge. And then I'm like thinking, all right, I didn't realize that there's three other components of this program I didn't tell Yes about Matt. I'm not going to say yes because I'm just saying yes to this first thing. And that's all we have to do is humans is get to the next thing. Don't worry about the things that you can't see. Just worry about the things that you said yesterday.

spk_1:   1:7:16
Yes, unexcited I really am. We

spk_0:   1:7:21
made you gonna look amazing. Your wife could be, like, work out like workout. Wow. Ah, you're all day

spk_1:   1:7:30
out. Actually, this lecture I'm wearing Kenzo Gracie, I started doing jiu jitsu because that's all right. I restarted doing jiu jitsu because of be fulfilled. It has been something that was

spk_0:   1:7:41
one of the five, right?

spk_1:   1:7:43
Yes. Maybe you should

spk_0:   1:7:44
build that into the component. What are the five things And then I just heard about it yesterday. A buddy of mine he completed Ah ah, an event with Michael Burn off. Um, basically, I loved it that you take a selfie the day you enter his like, kind of his event. And then it's in your like plan or the whole time, and then you get a look at it and then you stare at it for, like, I think it's a minute and you look out and you kind of have, like, emotions with it. But then six months later, you write yourself a letter in your initial class and six months later, the letter comes to you, like in the mail, like some six months later about, you know, whatever you wrote in that letter, just kind of a reminder. And I think you know, that was for me. And like listening to you this morning, I'm like, maybe we should draw component into the book that really says, You know, what are five things you want to do? And then how can we as a community holds you accountable and help you write, like is really for you to take on all these new challenges is not difficult. It's called time blocking. If you really want to achieve anything, you just have to work your schedule. But so that's it, man. I don't know much more. I know that, um I could sit here all day.

spk_1:   1:8:53
You're a wise man is gonna

spk_0:   1:8:54
have to enter this. You know that this podcast down is gonna have an easy job because it's just two people that, like each other talking,

spk_1:   1:9:00
don't be ridiculous. There's no editing needed were two beautiful men talking about beautiful things. All right, let's let's finish up with some of my favorite questions. What? This is some I get to something. What did you want to be when you grew up? When you were a kid, what'd you think you wanted? Me?

spk_0:   1:9:15
I wanted to be a police officer.

spk_1:   1:9:17
You're welcome. I wanted to be an astronaut.

spk_0:   1:9:20
Yeah, I did, too. I think I wanted to be a fireman. A doctor? I think I wanted to be an athlete. I think all of those things. What you wanted to be when you're growing up. Because that was what was available. I just didn't want to be a remote control. That's what I did. Like for my parents, Like, change the channel like get up, Tony, you go turn the rabbit ears to go fix the thing. Like, turn the volume down. Change the channel.

spk_1:   1:9:39
Yeah, I was the You're the closest one to, and I'm like, that's not fair. You always sit in the corner. I don't get that option. All right. What uh, I think we already know the answer to this based on where you're moving right now. But what do you want to be with? Euro? Up.

spk_0:   1:9:52
One of the things that I would absolutely love to be is a property owner with my wife in Positano, Italy, running a bed and breakfast and allowing me still to run masterminds and classes and invite my entrepreneur old friends to come over and experience fun times. Just kind of like chilling on the beach.

spk_1:   1:10:11
I'm in. I will happily stay there. May every NB experiences led me to realize how much fun it is to do that. All right. One of your favorites. Childhood foods, anything. Oh,

spk_0:   1:10:23
beans and weenies. All day, every

spk_1:   1:10:25
day. These baby. All about it? Yeah, It's a

spk_0:   1:10:29
brown shirt to catch up. Not on the 75 hard plan right now, though.

spk_1:   1:10:33
No, wait, What's Oh, the catch up, Carter. Yeah, that's fine. I'm not a catch up guy. Mustard guy. All right. What's your what's your favorite beverage?

spk_0:   1:10:43
Uh, currently, every day in my life, there should be a Pellegrino sparkling water, preferably a big one in front of me. That's so funny. When we goto restaurants Here are restaurants in Italy there, like, would you like the little one? And I'm like your biggest, you know, when you like this serve you beer there, like, would you like like the 12 ouncer? Would you like the 24 ouncer like, Come on, dude. Like Captain Obvious. Give me the 20

spk_1:   1:11:06
you know? Yeah, we have a which maybe you don't like club sodas much as you like Pellegrino But we actually have a keg ing system for my beer, which I'm gonna just have to let sit there from the next 75 days.

spk_0:   1:11:16
Yeah. You'll find you'll make someone really amazing beer over that time. You just won't be able to try it or tested, But

spk_1:   1:11:22
we have a five gallon keg that is devoted entirely to club soda. That's how Emily allowed me to put this keg aerator in our kitchen. So we have five gallons of club soda and a five gallon back up on draft at all times, So I just go over to the tap and we've been doing this. One of the people I interviewed, actually, Renee Reagan, who is a ah chef over at our little favorite cantina and a friend of mine. She does these amazing mixers for cocktails, but they also go phenomenally well in just club soda. So, like a mentally Monod A or, like passion fruit. Lehman. Ana Margarita, All these different amazing flavors for China. And so I'll just throw those in the club soda at noon. That's out. My my soda is essentially fresh lime juice, passion fruit juice and club soda. So it's like, cool,

spk_0:   1:12:06
making me Thursday,

spk_1:   1:12:07
my lead up. A lot of club soda. Just not sweetened soda, right? Yes. That's Carver. Perfect. Okay, that's fine. Just work. Okay? I'm sure you gotta have one of these, but what's your best? Your favorite karaoke. A tune?

spk_0:   1:12:19
Oh, highly. Sing one song I've ever go to a bar. Tequila. It's the easiest one to remember.

spk_1:   1:12:24
Wow, that's a little surprising. Get a challenge. You to like something like a bohemian rack city where you have to work

spk_0:   1:12:30
at number knows best that I cannot remember the words to any song regardless of their on their I will want to change all of the lyrics to be something they're not

spk_1:   1:12:40
as you should love. It's love it. All right. What's in your playlist these days. A lot of podcasts, Any music? Who's your favorite musics?

spk_0:   1:12:48
Oh, I love it. I'm listening to a couple bands. A lot of right now. The strum Bella's there from like, Toronto. They're really cool. I got a chance to see them live in concert and Rome. This last trip we went to in October, that was really just a totally awesome. There was probably 100 20 people in this club actually here the week before, um, in Denver. But Amber and I were in Mexico on a work trip, and so we missed him here. So I wrote him an INSTAGRAM message saying, Hey, I can't can't see you in Denver But instead I'll travel and see you in Rome. And so that was awesome. And by saying yes to doing that whole thing. Ah, Amber and I ended up meeting an amazing gentleman. Glenn and his wife, Julie, at our little favorite restaurant in Positano, and he is the lead singer of a band called Tacoma, which I highly recommend Anybody follow and find their their amazing, very much my type of music. Tacoma just launched their second LP, and they're based out of Seattle and have become really, really good friends with Glenn by just literally reaching out and kind of building reporting connection on. And that's just one of my people skills that I love.

spk_1:   1:14:02
You are great at that and I absolutely love it. I will be in the middle of whatever and I get a face time video chat. That's Tony G. And we just talked. You have to stick

spk_0:   1:14:09
right there. I need to take this call really quick. Ma'am, do not leave. Yeah, well, yeah,

spk_1:   1:14:15
seriously, it's It's about that some days, but I love it, and that's so exciting. And Emily get super frustrated me sometimes because we'll be in a restaurant, Ruby in line at the supermarket and somebody will say something if I can. Over here you. I'm allowed to be a part of your Oh,

spk_0:   1:14:29
I'm into your conversation. Yeah, I'm in your conversation,

spk_1:   1:14:31
and so I do it constantly in a drives her crazy. But I have had so many fun, interesting, fascinating conversations to the point of view, meeting the guy from the chroma who went Riggleman, who I started listening to after I visited you guys Endeavour and they're awesome. Just

spk_0:   1:14:44
yeah, there for me. I think everything comes down to Are you leaning in or leaning back? Leaning back is like I got this. I don't need anything. Leaning in is like, Hey, what's going on? Like I'm good and I think we go through seasons. I think sometimes I am leaning back, and sometimes I think I am leading it, and I think it's OK. Um, it's OK and you just have to find what works for you. But that just finished up reading the Compound Effect with Darren Hardy last night. I'm about to read a new book from Michael Hyatt who who has, like the focus planner who's got a really just amazing careers, kind of being a coach of speaker podcast, toes, etcetera. So I love all that. The things that you know. I think I found my time really playing attention to you right now. The masterclass masterclass dot com Oh, I got you wrapped up my six masterclass. I'm just starting a new one, so it's been phenomenal.

spk_1:   1:15:37
Just listen to one that's called the gangster Gardner. I listen the entire thing in one day, and the guy talks about gardening and What? It's awesome. I I am obsessed with masterclass.

spk_0:   1:15:46
Yes, I think you just have to find something that works for you. Um and you know, I still spend my time in the morning. Like every day I read my my Bible app. I have ah thing Rick Warren's daily devotional on like you version that's like my things every morning. Like I had a 60 day streak today and it just tells me like all right, it's part of my routine. Now I've made it part of my moment in the morning and so on my walks, all this into Jesus culture, whoever it may be and just just really just trying to get myself centered for the day. Because in my life, my career isn't isn't chaotic and crazy, but because I've got a lot going on, I can make it very chaotic and crazy. And I like to have simple tools that allow me to be grounded to take a sidebar moment to say All right, God, what do you got intended for my day? Because my plans were good, but I know years or better,

spk_1:   1:16:38
I like it. We just got well, we went to Israel last summer. And while we were there, we had the most incredible tour guide, and one of the things he told us about was this author who are a scholar, I'll say, not even another scholar who has spent his entire life finding the most perfect translation of Hebrew for what the Bible was written to be, and in particular the Old Testament. Because this is a Jewish scholar and he rewrote the entire Bible with the what he believes to be the exact wording, the way it was intended to be based on all the available information. And we ordered the called the Hebrew Bible. And it's the all the books of the Old Testament's that are this new the newest, most accurate translation, and we've just decided to start reading that together. So I'm super into that, and we really weirdly oh, it was the first day of Passover, we decided after our zoom Passover seder, we decided we were gonna have ah, the evening and watched Joseph the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, which was a musical I performed in but also a musical Emily have never really seen and then realized she hadn't performed in. And I guess So anyways, wasn't that

spk_0:   1:17:45
Donny Osmond in that?

spk_1:   1:17:47
Yes, he was in. The movie has got awful, hilariously bad and good all at the same time. But we watched that and in orderto watch it, it was on Amazon Prime and you had to subscribe to Broadway HD. And so part of that was having access to all these Broadway musicals, like an extra nine bucks a month were like, Well, do it until we get bored with it. And we realize there's someplace in Branson, Missouri, that is a super Christian, UM, organization called It's the Sight and Sound theater, but they do all these versions like incredible stage productions of Bible stories. So we watched Moses, which was really cool. We watched. We just finished watching Jonah and I'm talking. They have zebras walking on stage, camels, cows, forces, skunks, peritz, you name it. I mean, they didn't know A at one point. So I'm assuming they have two of every animal in a menagerie somewhere. It's insanity, but we've been watching all these Bible related musicals lately, and it's just been such a fun rabbit hole, the fall down of unexpected weirdness. So, yeah,

spk_0:   1:18:46
I think, and I think in times like we're experiencing, I think we truly can draw closer to source or weaken. Walk further away from source. And I just made the choice. You know, just get up every morning, get quiet, and still I have a little reminder on my phone. It says, you know, I am your son. Your my father and I ask that you father me. Um so that's like my every morning when I wake up, I say that before I go to bed because it allows me to realize that, um I don't have to know all the answers. I just have to be willing today to ask. And that was not something that I was good at. Growing up, I was. I always got into trouble because I didn't ask, you know, if you would have just said, Hey, this is what I wanted to do. Someone said, Hey, you know what you could But I think maybe you should try this. So I lacked. Um, I liked leadership, and I lacked a little bit of vision. And then once I was able to understand those terms and that really getting my meeting, my purpose, all of this stuff kind of worked itself out. And the last thing I will say because I think it's important, is like when you, when you let go of needing to be right, you actually truly do with So you know, it's been Ah, it's been an incredible journey and I and I'm grateful Every day that I get my eyes open and my heart speeding, my blood's flowing And I remind myself that you know, inside Matt inside me and anybody listening There's greatness and our job every single day is to tap into it. And so what better gift have you been given? Is that one

spk_1:   1:20:09
perfect words to end on? Thank you, brother.

spk_0:   1:20:13
You bet. Thank you. And we didn't do voices. So we'll have to save that for another show. That's great.

spk_1:   1:20:17
We'll have just an entire episode of guests. The voice that'll be that.

spk_0:   1:20:21
And guess that voice I'm working. I like to that I should not be working. All right now

spk_1:   1:20:25
let's just we'll have a known Declude. We'll just we'll come up with the podcast. That is just ridiculous. Voices. You just

spk_0:   1:20:32
you just ask me questions. I will never leave character for the entire episode. Perfect. I think that'll be. And you don't even have to say who it issued. Just think it's like somebody on your show like who sounds really unique.

spk_1:   1:20:43
I'm fairly certain once we know for a fact that Kim Jong Eun doesn't actually survived. This whole madness was

spk_0:   1:20:49
weekend at Bernie's. I heard that That's what really is going on.

spk_1:   1:20:51
Just floppy arm waving. Yeah, just press the nuclear button with a roll of it. What a way to end. Bloody brother. We love you

spk_0:   1:21:01
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