Embark on a spellbinding exploration of "Wolfwalkers," a cinematic gem nestled within the realm of Irish folklore, as Eric and Phil unravel the tapestry of this animated marvel. Prepare to be whisked away by the hand-drawn artistry that breathes life into every frame, rivaling the giants of Pixar and Studio Ghibli. While we traverse the lush landscapes of the film's visual storytelling, our exchange of contrasting opinions on the captivating yet complex father-daughter dynamic promises to stir the pot of discourse.
Will you stand with Phil in admiration of their fraught journey, or side with Eric as he picks apart their character choices? The discussion takes a turn into the realm of animated film critique as we place "Wolfwalkers" alongside its contemporaries, delving into its narrative prowess and celebrating its rightful place within our rankings of animated favorites. We invite you to join us and contribute your own takes on the enchanting world of "Wolfwalkers."
Letterbox'd Synopsis: In a time of superstition and magic, when wolves are seen as demonic and nature an evil to be tamed, a young apprentice hunter comes to Ireland with her father to wipe out the last pack. But when she saves a wild native girl, their friendship leads her to discover the world of the Wolfwalkers and transform her into the very thing her father is tasked to destroy.
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Embark on a spellbinding exploration of "Wolfwalkers," a cinematic gem nestled within the realm of Irish folklore, as Eric and Phil unravel the tapestry of this animated marvel. Prepare to be whisked away by the hand-drawn artistry that breathes life into every frame, rivaling the giants of Pixar and Studio Ghibli. While we traverse the lush landscapes of the film's visual storytelling, our exchange of contrasting opinions on the captivating yet complex father-daughter dynamic promises to stir the pot of discourse.
Will you stand with Phil in admiration of their fraught journey, or side with Eric as he picks apart their character choices? The discussion takes a turn into the realm of animated film critique as we place "Wolfwalkers" alongside its contemporaries, delving into its narrative prowess and celebrating its rightful place within our rankings of animated favorites. We invite you to join us and contribute your own takes on the enchanting world of "Wolfwalkers."
Letterbox'd Synopsis: In a time of superstition and magic, when wolves are seen as demonic and nature an evil to be tamed, a young apprentice hunter comes to Ireland with her father to wipe out the last pack. But when she saves a wild native girl, their friendship leads her to discover the world of the Wolfwalkers and transform her into the very thing her father is tasked to destroy.
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Speaker 2:Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino, yeah they've got you covered and all you gotta do is wait for it. This is the Wait For it Podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast. I am your co-host, phil Smith, aka Phil, the Filipino, and joining me, as always, is your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, fellow Filipino, and joining me, as always, is your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and Eric.
Speaker 2:We are here with the May edition of the international feature Super excited, also a little anxious, to talk about this film today, as it is a movie that I recommended actually a couple of years ago on the now gone episodes of Netflix, and Phil talked about this film that is over on Apple TV, my favorite streaming service, and today we will be talking about Wolfwalkers, a 2020 film that really kind of flew under the radar because I hadn't even heard of it until like 2022, I believe, is when I first watched it and, eric, this is definitely in terms of the things from Apple TV that I have been trying to get you to watch is definitely up there. So excited for you know, for us to talk about this film, see what you and your family thought of it and then, hopefully, get more of our listeners to watch it and give their opinions as well.
Speaker 1:Out of everything you wanted me to watch. This is a shot. This was a shocker, you know, just just off a first glance, not knowing what it was about, just an animated film. Most of the things you recommend on apple tv plus whatever that's called. I just got it. So I'm still learning the terminology severance, ted, lasso, all these live action or comedy based type of shows and, yeah, this was the first thing that you've recommended on that platform that I'm watching. So I think this will be interesting. Just off of that. It's inaugural, but I am excited to get into it. A great recommendation. I think we'll have a fun conversation. I definitely, while I enjoyed it, have some things to get off my chest. So I am am excited to jump into that, and there may or may not be a little spoiler section at the end to talk about it in depth, but I think it'll be good nonetheless.
Speaker 2:Fantastic. Well, before we dive into the episode, I want to welcome in any brand new listeners, as well as returning listeners to the podcast. If you want to know where you can find all the rest of our content, as well as our social medias, make sure you stick around to the very end. We'll let you know. You can find all of that, but without further ado. Eric, you are, uh, you are coming off of a a long weekend yourself. As far as mentally, physically, you are spent. Uh, I have a big basketball game to prepare for here later this evening, so why don't we just dive in to the film?
Speaker 1:and well, hold on, let's just pause there, that was. You said that, like you're gonna physically play a basketball game, you're just watching. Oh yeah, no, no, no no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I stand up and I like mimic, like lucas moves, like my knee hurts right now okay uh, yeah, my ankle is taped up.
Speaker 1:I don't want to brag, but I I walked 22 000 miles yesterday and watch uh watch, simple playing concert.
Speaker 2:So different experience. I've played 10 nba playoff games in the last couple weeks, so same same are you saying like physically? Yeah, because that's what I'm saying. I'm like I'm doing all the moves with with luca, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So it feels like we're. We're in the same. If we're in the same.
Speaker 2:It feels like they're different, but but go on oh, sorry because you heard I'm just a kid, live. This weekend you had more of a taxing weekend I.
Speaker 1:That was after about 15 000 mile of his steps.
Speaker 2:Uh taken maybe miles nothing like hearing a 50 year old manold man sing. I'm just a kid. I saw them at Warped Tour a couple of years, the very last traveling Warped Tour a few years ago. They still got it, man.
Speaker 1:They're really good live, but I've derailed the episode enough. I'm so sorry, I just couldn't. It's just the way you transitioned was like yeah, we're the same. No, I'm exhausted.
Speaker 2:I'm getting my stretches in and it'll be great. I'll be right where you are here shortly. Wolf Walkers 2020, directed by Tom Moore and Ross Stewart. In a time of superstition and magic, when wolves are seen as demonic and in nature and evil to be tamed, what the what is?
Speaker 2:it why? Ok, I got, I got to divert from Letterboxd. What's the hold on in a time of superstition and magic, when wolves are seen as demonic and nature an evil to be tamed? There you go, I got it. Now. A young apprentice hunter comes to Ireland with her father to wipe out the last pack. But when she saves a wild native girl, their friendship leads to her discovering the world of the Wolfwalkers and transform her into the very thing her father is tasked to destroy.
Speaker 2:So, eric, I'm just going to throw it to you here first, because you have watched this most recently, actually went back and listened to my Netflix and Phil episode from a couple years ago as well as touched up on some of the, the trivia and just the knowledge I picked up in terms of preparing for that episode, because a lot of work was put into this film because of the type of animation that was used. So I want to discuss that here in just a moment. But you watched this with your family, I believe. So just kind of general reactions coming out of the film. Again diving into what was, oddly, your first Apple TV experience.
Speaker 1:Very oddly, but surprisingly good Surprisingly good, phil, this movie. I'm going to just take the big piece of the cake here as far as what we're going to praise for this movie and what we're going to talk about, and that is the animation style. I think it's absolutely great. On Apple TV they have a little mini thing that you can watch to prepare for the movie and it talks about how much like was hand drawn, which I thought really shows. And the first thing I thought about was and I guess this is why maybe it was surprising upon first glance that you would recommend this We've talked about studio Ghibli on this series and others on the podcast and you have talked about how like that's you know static, that straight background, just kind of that still background on this series and others on the podcast, and you have talked about how, like that's you know static, that straight uh background, just kind of uh, that's still background.
Speaker 1:I should say uh does and does not work sometimes. For you, it absolutely works in this film. So I can see why you enjoy it because the colors pop off immediately, the world feels alive and I really enjoyed that about the movie. There wasn't a moment where I wasn't drawn into the screen and I think the animation is the probably strongest point of this movie. If you are a fan of unique animation good animation this is absolutely a must watch. Just off of that alone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the amount of time and effort that went into us. I was really bummed because I couldn't find my exact notes from that episode, but I mean, we're talking hours upon hours where they would layer the still background and then go back in and then render the 3D backgrounds and we're talking about shading and coloring and all these kinds of things. So much work went into it. They actually had like a special camera rig for a lot of the first person shots that you see in the film, in the wolf vision shots and, like you said, eric, it just makes for an absolutely stunning experience.
Speaker 2:I wish this was a film that did release in theaters, because I would love to see it on a really big XD IMAX screen. Like you said, I think the colors would really have popped. So, yeah, like you said, that's definitely the first thing to point out, and it made it for a really easy purchase, because I actually own the art book for this as well. I bought it for my daughter and it was just something that I immediately had to go get so I could go back in and learn more about it and also revel in again, like you said, the technical feat that is this film, because it is stunning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and because this is an international film, we definitely got to talk about kind of the uniqueness of this film in both its tone and its story, where it's located, and I thought, phil, everything with the story had a lot of really great elements from an international standpoint, which is why we picked it here obviously that irish background, but also on the english side, right, because obviously our, our main character is kind of a foreigner here and is trying to make do their father her father is trying to make do, trying to keep his head low, trying to do a good job in this town, so they can feel welcome.
Speaker 1:I thought a lot of that was really interesting. I'm curious where you stood on the characters because, while there are some strong points here, I gotta say, phil, this is probably where I will bring criticisms at some point in the episode, because I was balling my fist at points and I'll tell you why we'll talk about you might know already, but I really want to focus on what you loved about these characters, because there definitely is a lot to love, especially with certain ones in particular.
Speaker 2:So obviously front and center is Meb and Robin. They are the two main characters here. Meb is the Wolf Walker character and who is just a like a ball of fire, like really very a lot of Nomona elements here. Like a ball of fire, like really very a lot of Nomona elements here, and obviously this came out way before Nomona. But you know a lot of tendencies very similar to that character and I just really loved their relationship. You know, borderlining on essentially what is going to be a found family type of film. So I really enjoyed that and obviously, like they are the whole crux of the film, Like if you don't buy into their relationship, none of this works whatsoever. So I actually mentioned in my review back at Netflix and Phil a couple of years ago that Robin and Meb were, as far as animated films, One of my favorite duos that I had seen in a very, very long time. So I loved the main characters. So I will be very pained if it's those two that you had a problem with.
Speaker 1:That's an interesting take there. I do, oh my God, I do think that Meb is awesome. I think Meb is everything they wanted Merida to be for brave, you know. I think it's just very it was very obvious. She has that energy that's infectious. She's a lot of fun. Robin and her stupid dad, dude man, those her dad is very frustrating, sean ben sean bean uh right, that we love.
Speaker 1:We love him. Great actor, the voice acting, great. I do want to definitely put that. And robin and meb's relationship is good. But robin as a character sucks, just sucks so much. I've never watched between her and her stupid dad make so many terrible, terrible decisions.
Speaker 1:She's a child no, no, no, no, and it's constant and they're both making stupid decisions. He's a grown-ass man so, like you, you could excuse robin to a certain point. But literally like just the decision making in this film from those two particular characters, extremely, extremely frustrating me and my son's loving the movie. Of course it's made for him, him out of the audience that was watching it, but me and my wife look at each other like we are not doing this right now. This is not happening and it's just again some of the most dumb decisions that these characters make and it feels like this movie film.
Speaker 1:One of the things that I think would have helped with a lot of the story beats definitely is the time. It's an hour and 43 minutes, which is a nice brisk time for an animated film, but I feel like one with a story like this that it was trying to tell could have benefited from an additional 15 to 30 minutes. I'm very curious how did you feel about the runtime? Did you feel like everything was cleaned up nicely by the end, or were you like me and thinking that there were some story beats that either felt rush came out of nowhere or could it use some more time?
Speaker 2:I think, just coming out of it, I was just so enamored by the film that I probably didn't really notice too much. Now I rewatched it within the last few months and I still didn't really have too much more that I was like really kind of grasping for. Obviously because I love the movie. I would have loved more of it. I don't think that it's a film that really lends itself to a sequel in film form. Maybe if you wanted to bring these characters to the smaller screen and have like an animated series, sure you could maybe convince me of that. But coming out of it, not necessarily so. But again, I would have been happy with more of it, just because I was so invested in the story and in their relationship when it comes to when it came to what was going on. So I didn't necessarily have that issue.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, no, and I think when we talk spoilers which we'll have a little warning for in a bit, it won't take very long, uh, if you haven't seen the film and it's also not anything that's too crazy as far as the story. But, um, this is a movie that phil I think just was really really well done. Across the board, I think it's a very good film that could be great, and you know, I'm just a big plot guy. So if, like, the plot and character decisions don't make sense for me, it just and again. Maybe that's why, with children's movies, sometimes I can be a little harsher than you are, because you just live in la la land in your imagination. You're like, oh, pretty flowers, and I'm just like hold on a second, what's going on here with the story? What's happening here? I don't care that she's a child, why are we making these decisions?
Speaker 2:yeah, no, I don't. I don't know what to say to what it is. I don't know what la la land that I that I'm living in pretty oh look no, no, that's it. Your first thing you started off was how beautiful the film is. What are?
Speaker 1:you talking about? No, I know, but sometimes you get so enamored in it that you just forget.
Speaker 2:No, I got enamored in the fact that it is a very well done story and the characters are great and the world is really beautiful and it's a tale about when it comes to Irish folklore that I certainly wasn't really in tune with. So learning all of that was really really cool as well, which is why it is an international feature. So all of that lore and everything like, I'm a sucker for that, for sure. And then you know, I think, with the time period and the time setting, I thought that lent itself really well to this animation style too. So, yeah, I don't know what La La Land that is other than just enjoying the movie for what it was.
Speaker 1:Well, phil, I would be curious how the reception to this movie was, before we jump into some of those spoilers and we probably argue for a solid couple minutes, because I agree with like the latter half of everything you just said. But again, some of those things just can't get over and I can't wait to have that discussion with you because I think, I think I've made you mad. So how did people receive it? Am I? Am I in the minority? At least?
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely the minority. First, let me have this conversation with you because it's something I brought up in my Netflix and Phil episode, because this was nominated for Best Onward Over the Moon and Shaun of the Sheep, farmageddon, which I don't think either one of us have seen, but you have seen Soul Onward and Over the Moon. Did you like Wolfwalkers more than any of those three?
Speaker 1:Soul was the winner that year. Right, Soul won. Soul deserved to win, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah no, this is way better than Soul. This is a much better movie than soul.
Speaker 1:It's definitely better than from a from an animation standpoint it is, but not, not, not enough to beat out the movie as a whole.
Speaker 2:Not in my opinion yeah, no, I definitely think this is way better than soul and onward.
Speaker 1:I've forgotten about soul onward is not great onward is not great at all. It doesn't get away with the pixar animation. But let's not pretend the pixar animation isn't strong. So I'm not saying that soul is a better looking movie, but it has enough good and great you'd even say great animation. Still, I think what it was trying to do there just worked better from a formulaic standpoint, like how they put it together. Uh, there's just a couple things that didn't work for me.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe we need to see shot of the sheep Farmageddon, because maybe that's actually the best animated film.
Speaker 1:It might be one.
Speaker 2:And over the moon, I think, is on our list of like late to the parties because I have not seen it yet. So those are the films that it was up against in 2021. And yes, in terms of minority 99% tomato meter score, 98% audience score and a 4.2 average on letterboxd and I mentioned this as well back in a couple years ago, this had become one of my favorite animated films that I had seen in a long time. It is in my top 25 list. I love this film. I have it at a five on letterboxd just because I love it. My daughter loved it, I watch it with my sister and I. I'll go back and watch it anytime, any day, and I cannot recommend it enough.
Speaker 1:So I have another five. Five is so wild. I was not prepared for that. I don't actually think I'm that far off on a letterboxd standpoint. Rotten tomatoes. Again, I would fall under the camp that Rotten Tomatoes speaks to, because it's essentially do you recommend the film or not. And I do recommend this film, which is why we're talking about it. But Phil this movie for me on first watch. A strong three and a half with the opportunity of a four. A five is crazy to me. When you said top 25, you're saying top 25 animated films, right.
Speaker 2:Animated yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, Because that would have concerned me. Fine yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess so.
Speaker 1:Phil, don't do this, don't do this. Okay, it's got a lot of Monsterverse movies to pass for your top 25 all time.
Speaker 2:Oh, it might be on there.
Speaker 1:Oh, jesus Christ, this isn't in order.
Speaker 2:Well, the first five are in order but after that it's not in order.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's a solid three and a half. Um, I think the animation alone makes up for a lot of that figure. Uh, there are lovable things about this characters, characters you can relate to, you can really enjoy, and I think for that alone that three and a half is warranted. I can easily see myself sitting down if it was on, watching it again and enjoying it a little bit more. When I kind of think of movies that have done that, although the score initially wasn't the same, films like Elemental like. The more I watched Elemental I really started to fall in love with it. I think this movie has the same type of thing that it can do for a viewer is, the more you sit with it, the more you watch it, the more you can really fall in love with the world, the characters and the movie itself yeah, that's fair and I'm glad to hear that your son liked it.
Speaker 2:I I figured this would be right up his alley. Um, what did you think of the song the, uh, the wolf walker song? Because it will be, I did add it to the playlist this week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, talked about wolves a lot.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure the song was around before the movie but it was very fitting.
Speaker 1:I was waiting for Shakira's She-Wolf to pop up but it didn't happen.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not. Yes, let's put in stop. Yes, we know what She-Wolf sounds like. Yes, let's put in the Colombian pop star into this Irish folklore movie. If it wasn't going to be a copyright issue, I'd say that would be the perfect spot to just put a quick Shakira clip. No, I'm not going to put Shakira into any clip here.
Speaker 1:Well, with that being said, I think we've had a really good conversation about Wolfwalkers. If you have not seen Wolfwalkers, this may be a good time to step away. If you do not like listening to loud noises, this also may be a good time to step away, cause there are some things that frustrated me and I think Phil giving it a five, it's going to be hard for him to listen to reason here, so I think it may be best just a general says the man that put elemental in his top four films of 2023.
Speaker 1:I will stand by that decision, but I definitely think that maybe just in general, you should just leave here. So all of our audience members this is just a me and Phil thing. If you're not me and Phil, I'm sure Phil will put a warning here. But now you have been warned. Oh yeah, I got to put the get out. Get out.
Speaker 1:So film dude robin is so fucking annoying dude and then her dumb dad. It's just those two characters really. I get wanting to keep your daughter safe. I kind of understood that at first, but from the dad standpoint, like he just wasn't listening to fucking reason at some point, like he was just being such a fucking ridiculous dude and maybe if I felt more like responsibility about the mom and like the promise that was made, maybe I'd understand from his perspective why he would do that. As a father I definitely do.
Speaker 1:But like at some point, if your daughter keeps running away and getting into these situations and you keep letting it happen like that's kind of on you, and then, with Robin, robin makes the worst decisions and then, just when you think she learned something, she doesn't. So she lies to her dad until it gets to a trouble, point the worst decisions. And then, just when she you think she learned something, she doesn't. So she lies to her dad until it gets to a trouble point that there's no coming back from. Then she lies to Meb about her mom, when she could just clearly tell her why she's acting this way. Just God, dude, the decisions, the decisions by these two characters alone, and honestly I don't decisions by these two characters alone and honestly I don't think they're good characters together. I think they're a terrible father daughter relationship. I don't think you're the father of a daughter. Did you feel like this was a good relationship between the two of them? I for sure didn't.
Speaker 2:I mean, there was a lot of shared trauma between the two of them and a lot of issues when it came to when it came to trust and understanding them. So, uh, yeah, it was. I think that is what made it not strong, but I think that's what made it interesting and compelling is because it wasn't on the outside. Looking in, you think, oh, that he has a great, he's a great dad, and he, he is he's, he's a good dad. But in terms of the communication between the two of them, no, that was not good and that was the point of it. I mean, we're talking about like he was like the, the hunter in this camp, you know, in this neighborhood, or not neighborhood but is he though?
Speaker 1:well, I mean he's, but is he though? Because even but listen just to hear me out, right, mr five out of five. I need you to hear me. So you're telling me this town of fucking buffoons who couldn't know. By the way, there was a shocker of the world for me, which I'll address in a second. These fucking buffoons in this town can't catch shit. He's shown no ability to do more than these fucking soldiers in here with this lord protector. Right, the lord protector is the only dude that was about that fucking life. Okay, he was the only one ready to throw fucking down. He had control. I liked him.
Speaker 2:I was kind of rooting for him at one point, he was a good villain, okay, well, that's, that's definitely too far.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like, like lord frollo, we were getting close, um, but judge, claude frodo man, okay, anyway. So we, we have no proof that he can do anything competently. And then he shoots the mom bear dude, I gasped, I did not see it coming. I thought I said we did all this and this mama bear or this mama wolf is gonna die, mama wolf's gonna die here. So it got me there, but there was nothing to make me believe that that would have happened in that moment, for the pure fact of the incompetencies of these characters. Nobody showed an ability to do anything, even how much backstory do you need to show?
Speaker 2:show me why, why?
Speaker 1:why is he tasked with this? Why does he know the land? They're not from there? Why is he tasked with this? Why does he know the land? They're?
Speaker 2:not from there? Why does he know the land? I'm pretty sure they migrated. They're immigrants. They immigrated there.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, he should have immigrated some skills to hunt because they weren't present. Oh my God, they weren't present, phil. And then, on top of that, they didn't even show him catch a bunny or something small.
Speaker 2:Why would a rabbit be?
Speaker 1:a threat to the kingdom. Just show me that you can catch something. At no point did he show that he was a skilled fighter, that he was a skilled hunter, a bowman, nothing, nothing. There was no skills present, phil, and he's barely a father because he can't keep control of his damn daughter.
Speaker 2:Yes, because he has responsibilities. He's not a stay-at-home dad.
Speaker 1:He's a. He's a bad father at home because he's a bad hunter at work. Just listen, no, you're not. You're just not listening to no, you're.
Speaker 2:This is so such nitpicky bullshit. I'm so irritated right now.
Speaker 1:And then robin, robin, also robin also just keep fucking up until her dad gets demoted.
Speaker 2:Robin, who has literally been brought up thinking that Wolfwalkers are, are evil and they and they murder people. That's all she knows, that's all that everybody around her talks about, and you want her to just very easily change her line of thinking within. I mean, obviously it happens within the course of the movie, but that's her whole upbringing, is that she is. This is the life that she lives, this is the lore that has been taught to her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then we see that she's also I'm assuming it's a gene thing she's also a bad shot and a bad hunter. So she almost gets her bird killed. You get what I'm saying. She almost gets her bird killed. You get what I'm saying. She almost gets her bird killed. Then she almost gets she like she gets people almost killed constantly in this movie, phil for dumb decisions. But listen, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm glad five out of five crazy. Though five out of five crazy I can be nitpicking. Five out of five. Five out of five, phil it's a great movie.
Speaker 2:It's a beautiful story. Level rating yes, it's a great movie. It's a beautiful story level rating yes, it is a great story. It's a. It's got beautiful animations, got great characters and it's I love it and it's a great movie.
Speaker 1:I we're arguing as if, like you, didn't enjoy the movie no, I enjoyed it, but it's because you, you, you love it so much that it's just like infuriating that you won't even listen to read Listen, you can disagree with everything, and even the bad father take you can disagree with that. That man cannot hunt, that man is a bad hunter. And for you to objectively just disagree with me.
Speaker 2:I feel like he's pretty large, so he must be pretty good at hunting.
Speaker 1:There's no evidence. You remember when I said 15 minutes would have helped some type of backstory into where, where, where, what a kill I'm sorry you did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sorry you didn't get the hunting montage that you so desperately needed to bring this from a three and a half to a four and honestly, I probably never will.
Speaker 1:I will hold it because I was clenching phil and it was about like the fifth or sixth time robin had made the same fucking mistake, the same thing, leading to consequences that I was like all right. So we're just genuinely not gonna listen to our dad here, we're just not gonna. I kept looking over to my son like this is you, you know, this is this, is you to a t? I ask you to do something. You don't do it. Don't, please, don't sneak out, okay, okay, we're okay, this is gone this is a.
Speaker 2:This is a child. This is a, an animation and young adult trope that has been around for decades that kids sneak out of the house.
Speaker 1:I don't understand why that's so, and when it, and when it's done in this way, it's a shitty trope phil like because it's been done for decades. Okay, there's a lot of things we've done.
Speaker 2:No, your argument is that, oh, don't, don't sneak out, and then she okay, so she's just supposed to stay in the house, and then that's the whole fucking movie. She just stays in.
Speaker 1:No, I I totally get it. And then when her dad faces fucking consequences, then she submits to the rules but for some reason doesn't tell meb at all about her mom telling her not to fucking like to run away. Your mom told me you need to run away.
Speaker 2:Your mom's here, no, let's let her find out in the most.
Speaker 1:Let's let her find out in the most. Let's let her find out in the most dramatic way possible. And you're a liar. And then you end up just saving her mom anyway, and your dad still hates you, doesn't agree with you like it didn't. In saving the mom, you chose the mom, this random family, over your dad, who you guys have such a great relationship. Why would you do that? And then we end the movie filled with them all being a family together. Where did that come from? Where did that come from? I didn't like it.
Speaker 2:I don't want to talk to you about this anymore. I'm going to go. I need to go stretch and play basketball because I have a game coming up.
Speaker 1:The game did start. I figured you were going to put a timer once we got there, but those are my quarrels Again. Some of them may be minor, but it happens so frequently that it just started to affect my score. So that's where we sit. Five out of five wild, but, phil, anything else you?
Speaker 2:want to say before we wrap up this episode, which, uh, I think was a fun conversation. We had a great time. I wanted to let you know that after the um, the end of the year rewards, I I moved elemental further down my 2023 list, so I just want to end with that.
Speaker 1:On a bus, you're absolutely petty, just petty behavior, cause I didn't like this movie. It's a three and a half. It's a respectable score.
Speaker 2:No, three and a half is fine. I'm okay. I'm happy with the three, three and a half out of five. Again, we're just going to have to break this and go watch Sean of the sheep Is what we're gonna have to do and and find out that we love that movie more than anything that came out in 2020, and just agree upon that.
Speaker 1:so and just in case, uh, you know cory or any of our other listeners, uh, that know our rating. Uh, this was much better than the shining, so absolutely.
Speaker 2:I know that's not really difficult. You know who really loves wolf walkers is eli, so I hope eli Eli listens to this episode and sends you a thumbs down. Shaun of the Sheep.
Speaker 1:There's no way, eli, let us know he's a bad hunter. Everything else fine, but he's bad at his job.
Speaker 2:You know, what I'd like to see is I don't know if you've seen all the memes on Twitter putting Kobu in every movie. I'd like to see Kobu in Wolfwalkers and see how it goes we're not.
Speaker 1:We're not talking about kobo now. Okay, just end the episode. Put it, put, put, put this episode down and do what that dad couldn't okay oh well, wow, this was, uh, not fun.
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