This week, I enjoyed chatting with Jason Falls, a social media strategist and digital marketing expert from Kentucky. Together, we’re exploring the intersection of social media, music, and culture. Jason shares his journey from his upbringing in Eastern Kentucky to becoming a trailblazer in social media marketing.
We chat about the evolution of social media, reminiscing about its more positive and less divisive early days. We also explore Jason's passion for Americana music, particularly his review of Beyoncé's 'Cowboy Carter' album, which skillfully blends country influences with her signature style.
Jason further discusses the unnecessary division in music genres and emphasizes the importance of being open-minded toward artists' experimental works. We engage in a lively debate about the state of country music, highlighting emerging artists who are returning to their roots. Additionally, we touch upon bourbon recommendations, the intersection of celebrities like Taylor Swift in sports culture, and the overarching theme of embracing change and diversity in music and life.
Throughout the episode, Jason also shares insights from his podcast "Roots Music Rambler," where he reviews new albums with a focus on country, bluegrass, folk, and Americana genres. He provides reviews of various new albums, including Beyonce's "Cowboy Carter" album, and recommends other artists and albums that listeners should check out.
About Jason:
Jason Falls is one of the leading thinkers in the digital marketing space with a particular focus on influence marketing. His firm Falls+Partners serves a wide range of clients from major consumer product companies to social technology platforms and beyond. Falls is the author of three books; executive producer of the Marketing Podcast Network; co-host of a music podcast and loves Americana music, sports, bourbon and his family. Not in that order.
This week, I enjoyed chatting with Jason Falls, a social media strategist and digital marketing expert from Kentucky. Together, we’re exploring the intersection of social media, music, and culture. Jason shares his journey from his upbringing in Eastern Kentucky to becoming a trailblazer in social media marketing.
We chat about the evolution of social media, reminiscing about its more positive and less divisive early days. We also explore Jason's passion for Americana music, particularly his review of Beyoncé's 'Cowboy Carter' album, which skillfully blends country influences with her signature style.
Jason further discusses the unnecessary division in music genres and emphasizes the importance of being open-minded toward artists' experimental works. We engage in a lively debate about the state of country music, highlighting emerging artists who are returning to their roots. Additionally, we touch upon bourbon recommendations, the intersection of celebrities like Taylor Swift in sports culture, and the overarching theme of embracing change and diversity in music and life.
Throughout the episode, Jason also shares insights from his podcast "Roots Music Rambler," where he reviews new albums with a focus on country, bluegrass, folk, and Americana genres. He provides reviews of various new albums, including Beyonce's "Cowboy Carter" album, and recommends other artists and albums that listeners should check out.
About Jason:
Jason Falls is one of the leading thinkers in the digital marketing space with a particular focus on influence marketing. His firm Falls+Partners serves a wide range of clients from major consumer product companies to social technology platforms and beyond. Falls is the author of three books; executive producer of the Marketing Podcast Network; co-host of a music podcast and loves Americana music, sports, bourbon and his family. Not in that order.
Welcome to Conversations on the rocks. The podcast where the drink is strong and the stories are stronger. I'm your host, Kristen Daukas. And this isn't your average chat best. Here real people spill the tea alongside their favorite drinks from the hilarious to the heart wrenching each episode a wildcard. You'll laugh, you may cry, but you'll definitely learn something new. So grab whatever whet your whistle and buckle up it's time to dive into the raw, the real and the ridiculously human. Let's get this chat party started. Friday as Kristen Daukas said, it is a another episode of conversations on the rocks, the conversation and podcast that is as random as I can be on any given Sunday. And today I am so excited because I have Jason falls in the house. And if you're not in the social media world, you may not know who Jason Falls is. But let me tell ya, he is a God amongst humans. And I told you it gets deep round here.
Jason:
That's a little too much but okay.
Kristen Daukas:
So I'm gonna let Jason give you a little tutorial on himself. But let me just tell you this man, he likes bourbon, BBQ and many other things. And so Jason, please tell everybody a little bit about yourself.
Jason:
Okay, well, as you might imagine, with the bourbon, and barbecue references I hail from the great state of Kentucky grew up in Eastern Kentucky I'm a hillbilly redneck by birthright and everything else. But I am primarily a social media strategist, digital marketing strategist, my primary areas of focus for businesses and brands are influencer marketing strategy, and, and implementation. And then I also do a fair amount of social listening and social intelligence gathering for clients monitoring conversations online to help inform their product teams, their content, things like that. Those are the two primary things I do. But I came to the Social Media Marketing World in the mid 2000s, when brands were first starting to really pay attention to social media marketing, and I just happen to be in the right place at the right time and had a couple of cool ideas and a couple of cool brands that were clients at the time of the agency that I was working for. And it kind of put me in a unique position to be kind of out in front of the social media marketing wave as it as it crashed ashore, I guess. And so I've always been I've been speaking at conferences, I've written three books. I've had a couple of different types of podcasts over the years. And just talking about the world of digital social media and influencer marketing and, you know, helping clients figure all that out.
Kristen Daukas:
That's not why we're here today. We are here today because Jason's podcast, roots music Rambler, he is an aficionado of Americana music. And in addition to the fact that I just love spending time with you talking about influencer marketing and all of that stuff. I really love listening to your reviews on music. Jason is on Tik Tok he does in other places, but I typically spend more time on tick tock and that's where I come across more of your content when it comes to music. But last weekend, within the past two weeks, you had you put up a post about Queen Bey fiance's newest album, cowboy Carter, and let and so we're what we're gonna kind of do is talk a little bit, we're gonna nerd out a little bit on the social listening piece of it. But then we're also going to talk about music, and then we're gonna just gonna really combine it all to come up to the conclusion of Mind your own business, and if you don't like something, just keep scrolling. I like it. Right. Okay, so, but, you know, yeah, we can go and delve into this. But you know, you and I both have been in the social media realm for many, many years. I think I peg just picked 15 years for myself. And so different now. And you know, remember back in the day when it used to be fun, it used to be puppies and kittens and here's what I'm eating and that was so annoying to us back then in the day but would you not like give your left arm to see your feed full of nothing more than puppies kittens and what people are eating for lunch? Oh,
Jason:
any day any day, you know? I cherish the days when you're right it was puppies and kittens and double rainbow triple rainbow videos and you know the the acid trip in the closet video on YouTube has passed around for forever and just fun silly stuff and most have us in those days in? Oh, 607 around in there, we were on Twitter. And that was when Twitter was real people having real conversations and not just people blasting crap out that doesn't, which is
Kristen Daukas:
probably how, which is probably how you and I first originally connected because that's how I originally connected to Mark Schaefer was on Twitter. Yeah,
Jason:
exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So a lot, a lot of made a lot of friendships, a lot of relationships started that way. I probably, you know, had a few 100 Friends prior to the advent of social media and instantly had several 1000 friends, you know, in the matter of a few months, just because we were on there, people like minded folks talking about, I mean, most of my crowd was talking about marketing and social media, marketing and PR and bloggers and things like that. But then there were also offshoots, talking about sports and music and other things, too. And the Internet back then was it was less political, it was certainly less divisive. But I think that's true of our whole world. I think the last 1520 years, we have, you know, snowballed into this cacophony of noise and hatred and skepticism and conspiracy theories and volatility. And it's, you know, we're in a rubbernecking society. And it seems like every day, whoever's trying to make news, they have to do something worse than what happened the day before to get anybody's attention. And so it's just this never ending cycle cesspool,
Kristen Daukas:
it's a cesspool of humanity. And I think you're given been very generous with 15 to 20 years. I mean, I think it's really been the past four years. I really think COVID is what did I said? And because people were stuck in their house, they had nothing more to do. I mean, think about it. That's when tick tock really exploded was during shelter shelter in place. Yeah, yeah. But
Jason:
I would also say that pre COVID, probably from 17 or 18 on that's when Twitter started to fall apart. It was both Yeah, right on it got bad for him. And you know, there's, there's there were for several years there. We were all worried about these, like, pockets of like skinhead communities and things like that popping up on YouTube. So I think there were some warning signs, then that told us that this was coming. And the pandemic certainly just pour gas on the fire because nobody else had anything to do other than sit at home and come up with Bs to put on the internet. And then, of course, at least in the United States, well, I guess the United States and the United Kingdom. At that same general time we were having this great political upheaval, right? You know, in our leadership, which you know, polarize the country even more and social media was naturally the place where people went to spew hate against each other. So
Kristen Daukas:
going back to where we started, tangent, do you want to fill everybody in on the post of which I'm referencing?
Jason:
Yeah, sure. So I do on to support roots music Rambler, which is bi weekly music podcast on tick tock and Instagram, I post 62nd album reviews, I listened to a ton of music. And I make it a point to listen to new albums, particularly in the Americana country, roots, bluegrass folk music world. And so I post these a couple of week, normally 62nd album reviews to just let people know, hey, listen to this new album. And my rules are I have to listen to the whole album. It's not just one song. I listen to the whole thing. I assess it for how I like it. And normally my scorecard is how many songs from this album did I put on my Americana playlist on Spotify. And if it's more than a couple, it's a pretty good album, if it's more than probably four. It's a great album. And so I do these reviews to just help people discover new music more than anything else. And of course, you know, when cowboy Carter from Beyonce came out, there's a lot of preliminary controversy and vitriol about the album from people who hadn't heard it, because they only heard the one song Texas Hold'em. And there's people who just philosophically were saying there's no way that a pop artist like Beyonce can make a country albums. She's not a country artist. She doesn't know concrete. She's not blah, blah, blah. And then there were some people who are like, Yeah, but she's Queen Bey, and she's awesome. And she's going to pull this off. And so there's all this debate and discussion, which I find repulsive, almost because an artist is an artist and please judge the work, not what you think the work is going to be. But nonetheless, and you have to remember to I am from a very rural part of Kentucky in the mountains. It's a very red part of our state. We have a couple of little blue dots from a political standpoint, that's a very red part of our state. And yes, I am from the place where the Hatfields and McCoys had their feud. So I have a lot of friends on Facebook, I have a lot of family members and whatnot, who probably leaned to that there's no way this is going to be Good, sort of previous position on this album. So when I did the review, I wanted to recognize people who had listened to it had heard it and didn't like it. And I wanted to also kind of mute and not really censor, but just kind of put a hand up and say, Hey, if you're gonna hate on this without giving it full credit, or even listening to the whole album, your opinion doesn't matter. But I needed to do it in a polite way. Because these people I grew up with, you know, I'm gonna have to walk down the street and see him at some point. And so basically, my review was, first of all, my personal opinion without thinking about anybody else's opinion. I absolutely love the album. Because I love more than anything, artists who blurs genres. I love it when a bluegrass band does a rock song in a bluegrass version. I love that kind of cross genre stuff. So what Beyonce did here is she took her, you know, Queen base status from the pop and r&b and hip hop and rock world, and soul and put it into put it put a country filter over it, and came out with something that wasn't true country. But it was very country fide. And it really blended the genres into something I thought elevated it it was right, it was new. It sounded great. The songs were good, the lyrics were good. They were kidding. When I first heard Texas Hold'em the first words out of my mouth was that, like, that's, that's going to catch on, people are going to be humming and singing that. And that's what she does. She's good at that. Very good at it. And so but when I listened to the whole album, there are six or eight cuts on that thing that I just thought were great songs. I didn't care what genre you put them in. They were great songs. And the fact that she took the genre of country and what she grew up listening to and in that world, and the influences that she had in that world, and produced something new, I think it elevated the genre. It's not a true country album. But it is very much a country album. And it is very much influenced by country. But it blends all these other things in it to make it something new and different. I think she really elevated the genre and created something that had we haven't heard and it's it. And so when
Kristen Daukas:
it's interesting to me these same people that were saying these things, and I've seen it all over my feet as well is Keith Urban is not American. And y'all love him. Y'all love you love you. Hey, Keith Urban, he's Australian.
Jason:
That's true. That's very true. Well, and I would argue that 90% of the country radio hits from the last 15 years. With a banjo in the background. I mean, they're not, absolutely not. If you want real country, you need to go back to 60s and 70s. And listen to Loretta and listen to Conway and that when you get to the late 90s, into Brooks, or actually the late 80s into the 90s and 2000s when the Garth scan around and you had some still good tried and true country, folks like George Strait in there. But that sort of you know, when country went mass, which had a lot to do with the radio consolidation, the big radio conglomerates, consolidating when country went mass, it became bro country pop country. And it really diverted away from true country music. Now, I will say and this is kind of an allusion to kind of what I did with the Beyonce thing. I don't think we can discount, bro country or pop country because a lot of people like it. And that doesn't mean it's not country. It doesn't mean it's not pop, it doesn't mean it's not valid. Plenty of those songs. I mean, if you look at I think there are 11 country music songs, who are certified diamond, which means they've sold 10 million or more albums. And I think out of the 11 like seven of them are what I would call bro country pop country songs, right. So a lot of people like this music, let's not discount them. And the people who say Beyonce, his album is not a country album, at least the ones who have listened to it. I don't discount that opinion. I don't think it's a country album, the way we think of Country Albums. But I think it's a new version of a country album that steps the genre up, broadens it a little bit and brings in other influences to make it richer,
Kristen Daukas:
and she's an artist and the beautiful thing about artists is they take things and they make it their own right. I have a big issue. We're gonna flip over to the other mega star which is Taylor Swift, right? And you know, now that she's dating, you know, Travis Kelce. You know, all of these Brad's Chad's and dads are having a frickin heart attack over it right? It's like, you know, here's my big issue with this and I'm on the Taylor thing right now is as Americans, I'm just gonna say it. You have been the collective you have been wanting to have something pure. You've been wanting to have something that is like, a girl next door, like you cannot give me a more perfect boy meets girl next door than Travis Kelce. And Taylor Swift, and you still are going to bitch about it? I mean, I was having Yeah, well, you know, oh, my God, I don't want to see it's like, it isn't the NFL is smart. They know where their money ticket is. Right? And that's Taylor Swift show and other Kansas City Chiefs games. So you can bitch about Taylor all you want to she there were so many times that she got caught on, on saying stop filming me, she did not want the attention. She wanted the attention where it needed to be, which was on the football field. And all these branches and dads are going everywhere and like to talk to the camera guy, because that's the one who's at fault and talk to the NFL. And I've had this conversation with other men. They're like, what what's going to happen next year, if they're not together? I'm like, well, then they're being very, very smart for cashing in when they can. It's just it's just but going beyond the dating piece of it. You know, she has she, you know her than I'm I'm not a Swifty. I like her. I respect her as a business woman. A folklore. You know when she did folklore. folklore is a very, you know, totally different than her little pop princess that everybody wants to throw her into it. But she's she and Beyonce both have done really amazing jobs and taking on a different type of music and genre than what they are known for.
Jason:
Yeah, well, and you got to remember and I am well informed here my 16 year old daughter is a major Swifty. So you got to remember Taylor Swift started out as a country artist. She started out as a singer songwriter, the fact that she was 13 when she started writing songs and performing and had the drive and the you know, ambition to do what she's done. You know, it put her in a position to attract a certain demographic young girls. And she has cultivated that audience into this massive demographic buying said that loves her loves her music love don't matter. Go for
Kristen Daukas:
Taylor when there's a Swifty around? Oh,
Jason:
no, no, oh, no, no. And, and it and it spans because you got to remember she's I don't She's early to mid 30s. Now, so she's been doing this for 20 years. So she's got to and almost two and a half generations of of people who are in her fan base. I mean, I know 40 something year old women who would die for Taylor Swift and my 16 year old daughter would do the same. And there's even younger girls that way. So in terms of business and marketing and building an audience, she's second to none. But when you when you really get into the conversations about Taylor Swift and you can like her music or you can not like her music, it doesn't matter. When you ask songwriters, who the best songwriter living today is tailors in the top five of most of their list. When when Jason Isbell who I consider probably the best living songwriter right now, when Jason izba was asked that question on a podcast just a few months ago, who's the best living songwriter right now? He said Taylor Swift. He said she's she's fantastic. And she is and I think the problem that the Brad's dad's and Chad's have with Taylor Swift is just oversaturation. She's been everywhere for 1520 years, and they can't get away from her and their daughters play the music all the time. So the one respite they probably have from Taylor Swift is watching NFL games on Sunday, and now they got to see cutaways to her in the press box. They'll get over it. It's fine. She's not hurting anybody. Some
Kristen Daukas:
of the best things that I saw on social media regarding all of that are the dads that were grateful for it. They're like, I've never been able to get my daughter to sit down and watch a football and I remember one tech talk or one statement that this dad was like, he goes now not only is she watching the game with me, she's learning it and she loves it. And he's like, I there's no way I could have ever had that happen. And I think you know when if people would just stop and stop judging you it and you know what's right for you. It's not right for me what's right for me is not right for you. And you know what, that's okay. And it's just, it's just gotten so out of control. And it's, I mean, that's just it's whole that's a whole different buckets of Well,
Jason:
and, and to circle back, right. My whole point with my review of the Beyonce album that I wanted to make was, look, if you don't like it, that's okay. You don't have to like it. You don't have to listen to it. You don't have to buy it. And if you see something in your string, you can thumb scroll past it. It's fine. But don't shit on exactly the hills. Let let us enjoy it. We like it. It's fine. I'm not crapping on your choices. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you, Morgan Wallen sucks, and he's racist, and you shouldn't listen to it. If you want to listen to Morgan wall and go listen to Morgan Wallen. I don't care. I'm not gonna. He's not my style. I don't like his stuff. If he comes out with a song I do like, like any other artist, I'm probably gonna listen to it. That's fine. But you go listen to whatever you want to listen to Morgan Wallen or otherwise, let us have our Beyonce country album because we frickin like it. I think it's
Kristen Daukas:
so here's a personal story. My youngest daughter moved, we moved her out to Idaho last summer, right. And she's a typical youngest child in the fact that, you know, she just, you know, her sisters are always like, man, so my oldest says, so who's mute because we drove, right. And she's like, So whose music you're gonna be listening to? And I'm like, oh, no, it's Cassius car. It's Cassie strip, probably Cassius. And she's like, oh, good luck with that. Well, I don't I'm not gonna go into that, like that. And so that's a year, that's an 18 hours, 18 hours of driving, right? So split over however many days we did it, but solid driving, and we listened to Cathy's playlist. It was one of the best playlists because she's a little bit more into alternative. And I had never, nobody come at me for this one. I wasn't familiar with Zack Bryant. And I was like, holy shit. I thought I bought this guy. And so I was like, Hey, can Cassie will you share? She has like, a Spotify playlists that's like, I don't know. 28 hours long and I'm like, will you share that with me? So the funny thing is the oldest one who was Pooh poohing on said sister's playlist came just out of the blue one day goes, oh my god, y'all I like country. I like Zack Bryan. And I was like I told you, and I said, here's the thing, you would have really liked Cathy's playlist. And so a few days later, she's like, Cassie, can I will you share it? And then she's like, coming back and a couple of days. She's like, I really liked this. So the moral of the story is stopped prejudging because until you actually listen to it, you don't know what you're going to like it. Why is it such a bad thing for all of us to explore other types of music? I mean, it's it was more than sec, right. And there were a ton of artists on there now. Did I like them all? No, I'm here to tell you. I'm not a fan of Mac Miller. And I'm not allowed to say that around my kids, because they love Mac Miller, and he's dead. And I'm like, I he's just not my thing. You know what I do? Exactly? You know what I do? I go, Alex, which is what I call a le XA. So she doesn't go off every time. Alex, skip. How hard is that?
Jason:
That's not hard at all. Not at all. I have a similar story. It's a little bit kind of turned around. I took my kids to see my dad in Virginia last summer. And not nearly an 18 hour drive more like four and a half. That's more reasonable. Maybe, maybe a little bit more than that. Anyway, my son, about halfway through the trip said, Hey, Dad, can I can I control the music? Because I had just put on something general that my kids would tolerate on my playlist. And I said, Sure. So he unplugged my phone from the USB port and plugs his in. And I'm like, Okay, I'm getting ready to listen to a bunch of Jack Harlow or some other type of rap music. So I had this predetermined, you know, idea of what he was going to play. And he pushed his play, and I almost swerved off the road. He started playing Steely Dan. Yes. And I was like, where did you learn Steely Dan. And he's a big music fan. And he's he's gone to college to study to be an audio engineer. And he's been exploring a bunch of different genres and a bunch of different artists and he turns on Steely Dan and the rest of the trip was fantastic because he was listening to music that I really dig. So,
Kristen Daukas:
man, let me let me tell you Steely Dan. That's some good stuff and like me, you think about it, like the 77. You know, I think we're about the same as you maybe a little bit younger than me, but you know, can Going back to those seven days with like the Doobie Brothers and eagles and I really miss that big band not big bands but big horns, the horns like with yeah section Yeah. The Commodores and all of those. Yeah. Definitely some old school Chicago, old
Jason:
Chicago. Chicago
Kristen Daukas:
that was
Jason:
that was when Peter Sutera started singing they kind of got well when David Foster started producing them they got 25
Kristen Daukas:
Or six to four still one of my absolute Absolutely I can still. So what are we're coming in on about we got about five minutes left, I want to talk about two more things with you want to talk about? We want to talk about some bourbon because you know, you're gonna love some bourbon. And I want to like give me off the top of your head like some of your what are your top five albums right now beyond cowboy Carter? And are you gonna Are you gonna? Taylor's new album which comes out on the 19th which is Friday?
Jason:
It's it's Friday, and it's also my oh my
Kristen Daukas:
gosh. So yeah,
Jason:
you can guarantee that you can Guaran damn tee and listen to that thing over and over again. So when I would listen anyway, just to hear it, but the fact that I haven't Swifty daughter means I'm gonna listen to it ad infinitum, which is fine. So bourbon. Yeah, so I'll just throw this out about bourbon, the bourbon explosion is still on the uptake. There's just dozens of new brands coming out every month. If you have the opportunity, I would recommend if you're going to a bourbon bar or looking for something new, there's a bourbon out of Owensboro, Kentucky called Green River, bourbon, and Green River distillery. And I've tried it a few times now. And every time I've tried it, I've liked it a little bit more. It's growing on me. So green rivers, a good recommendation for you. Most of your mainstream bourbons that everybody's heard about bullet Maker's Mark, whatnot, they're all going to be perfectly fine to mix in cocktails and whatnot. But if you like just sipping on a new bourbon and trying to find something new, I think green river would be a good choice for you. And if you haven't had the opportunity to explore the Willett bourbons yet, do that because they're pretty tasty. And then albums, top five albums. I love this. And I'm more prepared to answer this question now than they ever have been before. I will tell you this if you have not heard of, or have listened to joy, a lot of qun she has an album out called Proof of Life. I think she has collaborations do ads on that album with Chris Stapleton. I think no a car.
Kristen Daukas:
There's in that state. No, no, he's another one that I discovered this summer. Yep. Love him.
Jason:
So Joy a lot. Akun proof of life is the album that I listened to the whole album and my my immediate reaction when I turned to someone and said, This is how I describe joy. A lot of goon. It's like Tracy Chapman, oh, good mood. It's just It's uplifting. And then there's some really thick lyrics and issues that she talks about. But she has this light, joyous sound. And it's just one that I can put on and I just feel good. So that's one. My second choice right now and these are in no particular order, but they're the top five that I'm listening to right now. Brent Cobb shooting star or no Southern Star, Brent Cobb Southern Star. Brent Cobb has been around for a little while. But this is his first what I would consider almost a breakthrough album. He's got an interesting sound, it's country. But he's got a couple of songs out there that have like this kind of fun baseline vibe and he just got some really good songs. He is the cousin by the way of Dave Cobb, who is the famous Nashville producer who's produced Chris Stapleton and Jason is bull and all sorts of other people but Brent Cobb Southern Star. Ciara Farrell has a new album out now. That is called I think, trail of flowers. And she is kind of a fiddle player from West Virginia, who was basically poor ran away from the state because she knew if she stuck around, she was probably going to fall into a myth pit. And she just traveled around and has kind of hit it as an artist. And the album is not only beautifully from a music beautiful from a music standpoint, but even the cover art is just it's I want to frame it all. So Ciara Farrell, I think it's called trail of flowers. That's number three. Number four is going to be can't be Kambli Carter Okay, hold
Kristen Daukas:
on. Give me cowboy Carter thing.
Jason:
Oh, the light the new one from Marcus King. In and I'll come up with the name of inherent mood swings as the name of the album produced by Rick Rubin. Several of the songs were recorded at Shangri La recruitment studio out in Malibu, and Marcus King is a great kind of southern blues rock guitarist. His previous albums are fantastic too but this one with the Reuben touch is just it's just great. It's got a bunch of really good songs on it. So Marcus kings new one is excellent. And then okay, I want to hit you one just just posted this 62nd album review today or yesterday? No, today the day we're recording this. It is called Old School. And it is by Kimmy bitter. Kr mmm i bitter. This young lady is a singer songwriter from San Diego, California. This is her first major album she's had a few singles on Spotify before this. The album debuted at number one on the alt country charts last week. Out of nowhere. She basically is Patsy Cline and Loretta Lynn in 2024 She plays old school country music the way we remember country music really good Patsy Cline type ballads really good Loretta Lynn like Don't mess with me anthems. She wears you know, go go boots night go outfit and plays it up the whole art direction and everything is all 67 days old school country. And she sounds magnificent. The only thing I didn't like about the album was she miss pronounced Appalachian that I can forgive her because she's from California.
Kristen Daukas:
That's one of the reasons I love Laney Wilson, you know, she you know, she's just a she's contrary she is she she's not just she's country, as we say here. No, because she's calling she's country. She's calling Oh, I love the list. I wrote them down. I'm going to put them in the show notes. Here's one for you. Another one I discovered last summer. Are you familiar with the band called The Five? Oh, twos? No, check them out. Talk about happy. This Yeah, talk. They are such a great band. They're a happy band. They're a you know, if you're kind of like, I got to clean the house or I got to mow the yard and you put them on? You're like, oh, yeah, this is not so bad. after all. Great band, the silence.
Jason:
I'm gonna be okay. They're from Maitland, Florida. I was gonna say 502 is the area code for removal. So I was gonna be real disappointed if they were from Louisville and I hadn't heard Yeah,
Kristen Daukas:
so. But they've got a lot of the horns and the brass in there too. You remember the squirrel Nut Zippers dig it? So yeah, we talked about like, but you know how the squirrel Nut Zippers were just a very fun, you know, but same thing with the five oh, twos. Jason, Jason falls. My friend. This has been such a great conversation, how it's already been 35 minutes. And oh, now we have so much fun when we talk to each other. And I really do appreciate you being privy to my reboot of my pod fade from four years ago. But you know, hey, life happens, right? And here's, here's the final rule, not rule but like final word is. If you don't like something, just keep scrolling. Nobody, nobody needs your net negative. We don't care. We don't care. And you know, stop being so close minded and live a happier life. So Jason, thank you and all my friends out there. Thank you so much. I hope you enjoyed this time with Jason and till next time. Hopefully your life is great. As the saying goes, you don't have to go home but you can't stay here and that's a wrap for this week's episode. A big thanks to my guests for sharing their story and to you for listening. Don't forget to share the show with your friends and spread the words. And if you'd like to be a guest on the show, the link is in the show notes till next time cheers
