Ants Under The Sun is a narrative podcast about cultures, locations, and people. Zooming out beyond the differences in culture, values, environments, if we look at the big picture in society, we are all only human. From that far, we are all the same. Zooming out even further, the details blur, and we become specks, dots if you will, on a map. As if we are...Ants Under the Sun. The podcast is hosted by Norman Chella, an Iban-Malaysian. Having lived in multiple countries, he carries with him the experiences of different cultures and the differences between them. Ants Under The Sun is a part of Norman's group of shows.