Get Your Shit Together

Is the Juice Worth the Squeeze?

• Adina Rubin & Diane Teall • Season 4 • Episode 102

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In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:

🧡 How we got here: from childhood faves, nutrition and fitness dogma to social media trends
🧡 Ways to love juice for better fitness, metabolism, or cooling TF off this summe
🧡 Cons: where “adrenal cocktails” and packaged options go so wrong
🧡 Juicy context if you have insulin resistance, allergies, stubborn weight, or gut issues. Plus trends on Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis (HTMA) tests.
🧡 Diane and Adina’s current favorite mocktails

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Adina:

and welcome back to another episode of G U I S T.

Diane:

Another one. Oh, we're on a roll. And if you're watching on the YouTubes, I think we found out our gamer girl set up here because the lighting is better. And thanks to Adina for being so patient with whatever was going on with the exposure last week. But we were saying maybe we need some strip lighting in the back

Adina:

Mm hmm. Some tube

Diane:

on YouTubes. Yes.

Adina:

tube lights, some plants.

Diane:

Uh huh. Yeah, a whole environment here.

Adina:

I did Google how you cover an air conditioner and it seems a bit too involved for me.

Diane:

Sounds like a whole home project.

Adina:

Yeah, you could like build like a wooden box around it and hang some plants, but like, I

Diane:

Sounds like a lot.

Adina:

we're going to do that. Love you gals, but. No.

Diane:

No, this is great, this is great. Summer's in full swing too, here and most certainly there, so I don't think you want to cover that any bit more than you need to.

Adina:

No, it's definitely hot here.

Diane:

Uh huh. Yeah, well, we're super excited for this one and how to talk about how to get hydrated, stay hydrated, all that, but some fun stuff. We saw some cute reviews that you left, and why don't we start on that super high note before we do our little catch up?

Adina:

I love it. Love these cutie reviews. Diane's are reading Railroad. What's your name again? What's the thing you

Diane:

Reading Rainbow?

Adina:

reading Rainbow Pizza Party.

Diane:

Yes, the Pizza Hut party, um, the Scholastic Reader Award. I also just nailed my 41 out of I've read 41 out of 40 books this year, and we're still going. It's only halfway through the year, but I'll also read this review. Look at me go. So this one is from Viv and Learn. I think it's from Vivi. Apologize if I mispronounce that, She said, five stars, like sitting and talking with your BFFs.

Adina:

Aw.

Diane:

G G Y S T, this is hands down my favorite podcast. Aw, I've learned so much from Adina and Diane and know I'm in for a laugh every time I press play. I love that. They are down to earth and share the facts in a non pretentious way. Bonus, they talk books, TV shows, movies, and every episode. My dream BFFs, lol, with the heart emoji.

Adina:

You're our dream BFF too.

Diane:

yes, I love chatting books, TV shows, and movies with you because, oh, we've been consuming them. There was a lot to catch up on this season, wasn't there?

Adina:

Yeah.

Diane:

Well, so much for leaving us some love. So with, with that in mind, should we talk about what we're consuming? Anything new?

Adina:

we shall. Um, food. So I actually just made dinner. We just had dinner. And I made something I haven't made in a while, but I definitely talked about it a lot on like probably season one of this show. And I did an instant pot pulled brisket.

Diane:

Oh,

Adina:

Yummy. So I just seared the brisket, threw it in the Instant Pot, and I did like a pseudo barbecue sauce with it. So I just poured in some tomato sauce, some apple cider vinegar, honey, garlic, just threw in a few cloves, and then just cooked it in the Instant Pot for like 50 minutes or so. And then I took it out, pulled it. And then threw it on a sheet pan and just broiled it for a bit to get it a little crispy. Yes. And in the leftover barbecue juices, I put rice in the Instant Pot. And then I made this yummy rice bowl. I kind of wish I had like a fresh salsa to put on it, but just a little cod dough and it was delish.

Diane:

Well, Kato, how do you feel about cilantro?

Adina:

I love cilantro. Have we not talked about this? I feel like it had to have come up.

Diane:

I know it's polarizing.

Adina:

Yeah, I love it. Donnie doesn't really like it, so I don't use it so much, but it is quite yummy.

Diane:

Yeah, we go through bunches. I mean, this is the season I go through bunches of herbs, and I'm glad that you found something you're excited about, because when we outlined this episode, Adina said, for food, surviving.

Adina:

It just was boring around here. It was just like throat, and I am using my new grill, and it is very nice to be able to do a ton of protein at once. Like, I had like a fat pack of chicken fingers, and they all fit on the grill at the same time, you know? That's

Diane:

you have Costco in Israel?

Adina:

No, we don't.

Diane:

And even if you did, I don't know that they'd have like a kosher Costco with just tons of kosher

Adina:

Well, if they had one in Israel, it would probably be kosher, but they don't. There is like a, I mean, yeah, they wouldn't have high quality proteins there.

Diane:

Bummer. Well, I thought I was going to be surviving too. I was just kind of bored with food and I, I had some aversions, I think I might've mentioned them in my pregnancy announcement at

Adina:

Mostly chicken.

Diane:

episode was chicken,

Adina:

Oh, wait, sorry. Can I interrupt you? Oh, wait, you want to tell us about your chicken first or should I interrupt you?

Diane:

I don't, I don't mean, I don't know what you're interrupting me

Adina:

I just wanted to talk about your photo shoot here.

Diane:

Oh, yeah. And maybe people didn't catch the end of that episode or like, what? Yeah. Diane caught a baby and I'm now in my second trimester, like solidly. I think I'm 17 weeks now. Yeah. But we did a little photo shoot to announce it last week.

Adina:

Did they laugh at you? Like, how did the photographer feel?

Diane:

They loved it. So it was at JCPenney, and maybe some of you have seen people do this with family portraits, uh, engagement shoots, and maternity shoots. So we went into JCPenney, booked this little session, walk ourselves through this entire store that I haven't been in in like a s fifteen years? I don't know. And I told them we want to do an awkward, cringey maternity shoot. And they go, oh, okay. And they have a whole photo guide because people have done this so

Adina:

okay, okay, okay.

Diane:

That corporate created a pose guide,

Adina:

I love that so

Diane:

it was still a hoot because we had ideas. I came prepared with some ideas of our own. Neil had some ideas. We had to do the prom photo. We had to do what my brother is calling my WWE pose where I'm kneeling and Neil's like crossing his arms behind me. Serious phases. But then the photographer was like, why don't you two turn around and put your hand in each other's back pockets? Stuff like that. Just ultimate cheese. I couldn't do corn for this one or like a serious cordy shoot. It just isn't me. So this felt so fun and they send you towards the front of the store, the waiting area, while they're preparing your photos. And I could hear the photographer chuckling from the back. And then they give you a preview, right? And this, this made me laugh. They said, all right, we have a bundle option that we would like to offer to you where you can get a big canvas print or a metal print, or we can print a photo of your choice on a blanket, a queen size blanket. I'm like, I think we're

Adina:

We're good for blankets. Thank you.

Diane:

But now I'm like, maybe I should have sent one to my parents for a little gifty, and they just have to look at this. Super awkward, silly photo shoot.

Adina:

So good. So good.

Diane:

So yeah, photo shoot. Um, but chicken, chicken and I were not getting along for a bit. It wasn't like I was gonna, I don't think it would have made me vom. I was lucky to have not felt nauseous or to have vomited the entire first trimester, but the idea of chicken, one of my loves, my former loves was just repulsive until like last week.

Adina:

I get that. I think that one happens for a lot of people.

Diane:

It's like our lizard brain is like, no, it's not safe. And we're like, we have refrigerators now. It's fine. It's fine.

Adina:

We have

Diane:

But, but I think too, I mean, how can you be upset with a chicken thigh with crispy skin on top. Like, so good. So I have, I made this for friends yesterday and actually this weekend we had two sets of friends that we haven't seen in a long time because they live out of state. My friends came up from Chicago and we grilled pizzas, amazing. And then yesterday my friend Topsy and her husband were visiting from California and I made this repeat Roman's cookbook. It is Chicken thighs, bone and skin on, of course, with caramelized dates, lemons, and shallots. It's a one pot meal, mostly hands off, except for frying the chicken skin. It's so

Adina:

So yummy. That, um, that combination sounds very Adena assessment also.

Diane:

It does, and I made Israeli salad, or as you would just say, salad, to go with it.

Adina:

Um, there is a bug in here. So those on YouTube are watching my eyes wander. Just like, it's not a mosquito. Remember when I killed a mosquito last time? Um, is it a mosquito? No, I think it's just like a gnat, but it is very distracting. So I got to rein it in. But anyways, we're glad that you were able to eat chicken again. We're very happy for you.

Diane:

It's so good.

Adina:

And that sounds

Diane:

from a cookbook that was like, it's An entertaining cookbook, which I just hear as, I'm gonna have leftovers, but of course we did share with pals and had key lime pie. It was, it was amazing. Love feeding friends. Yeah, yeah.

Adina:

I could really use a good like dessert. We're probably going to go to Manara again on Thursday. So

Diane:

best restaurant. I have a friend that was actually just in Israel, but she was there for like, volunteering and such, and was like, oh, I won't have any time to go to

Adina:

to do the fun stuff. Yeah.

Diane:

a whole Google Maps, thanks to you. Like, there were a bunch that we hit and some that I think. we were thinking of when we were there and now my mouth is watering for some Manara.

Adina:

Hmm. Come on down. It's really baby friendly here.

Diane:

It's just getting them there.

Adina:

I know truly it's quite a flight. I'll tell you that much.

Diane:

Uh huh. Well, did you watch anything? I did not watch Hacks, I'll just say that. I'm still

Adina:

Can you freaking finish it? We gotta, we gotta talk about it. Uh,

Diane:

been tearing through the

Adina:

books.

Diane:

And hosting.

Adina:

She's reading books and socializing.

Diane:

Yes, and playing outside.

Adina:

and watch some television like a normal person.

Diane:

No, I watched nothing last week. I don't, yeah, nothing really.

Adina:

Um, I watched something very wonderful and it was such a lovely experience. So basically we have a friend who has been just really into film and video since we were younger. And he was like the guy in high school who just like always made like the spoof videos and all that stuff. He actually made my bridal shower video like with Donnie and some other friends, which is really funny. I don't know if we've ever talked

Diane:

Wait, is this the one where Donnie runs into Justin

Adina:

Yes, it is. So anyways,

Diane:

remember that.

Adina:

so funny. Maybe I'll pull a clip for it. I have to find it. Um, but so our friend Daniel, he, uh, I had been joking with him at that time. Like one day, Justin long is going to be presenting an award to you. And you'll have to be like, Oh my God, we've met before. So anyways, our friend Daniel, he's made like a couple of horror films and

Diane:

Oh.

Adina:

yeah, well, it's, it's very, It's a little easier to get noticed in horror because they're cheap to make and then you can get into these like horror specific festivals. So it was kind of just like a getting started indie thing. Um, but he finally wrote this comedy, like a, family drama comedy. And Donnie and I had actually read the script COVID times and chatted with him. Like we had last year when we were in for Passover, we went to see a rough cut screening and then they got into Tribeca film festival,

Diane:

Big deal.

Adina:

huge deal. And it happened to be that Tribeca was the week that Donnie and I were in for my cousin's wedding this summer. So we were so, so excited to be able to see his movie in Tribeca and just like, what? A fun experience to have a friend with a movie in Tribeca, but basically that's what I've been consuming. So the movie is called Bad Shabbos and it's like a, it's like a meet the parents kind of thing where there's this Jewish family that lives in the Upper West Side and the son. brings home his non Jewish fiance for a Friday night dinner and her, like, Midwestern parents are coming to the dinner. But before the non Jews arrive at the Shabbat meal, the Jewish family ends up with a dead body on their hands. So it's like a lot of hijinks with them trying to, uh, cover up the situation, hide the dead body before the goyim in laws arrive.

Diane:

cause dinner must go on.

Adina:

And it's just really silly and really fun for people with any familiarity around that Shabbat meal, family stuff. But we were actually standing outside the theater with our friend Daniel, the director, after the movie. And we were like, It's very specific. Like, is this going to reach a broader audience? And then a Filipina guy came up to him and was like, this was so nostalgic and hilariously triggering for me for bringing my girlfriend from Arkansas to my Filipina dinners. Yeah. Um, so we were joking about how specificity is universal, but anyways, it was, It was so delightful and I really hope they get picked up by a streamer so that all of you can see it. Call your favorite streamers and tell them that you want to see Bad Shabbos. Um, but yeah, it was just, we were so proud of him and it was just so fun. It was so fun to just celebrate him and get to meet some of the actors and hang out. And it's like a really fun cast. It just, It's great. It was fun.

Diane:

Cute. Well, now I want to see and see how that experience that this couple has relates to like bringing people home into my Filipino household growing up. I think, yeah, Neil met both of my grandparents. I mean, that was, that would be the funniest. Interaction would be like seeing my grandparents and the way that they shove you out the door with leftovers and ask you a thousand questions and just all those fun extended family things.

Adina:

Yeah. So good. But yeah, it was just, it was really fun. And then like, I feel like our last trip to New York, I had that feeling. Our trip was too long. Passover, like it was three weeks. And I had that feeling of like, I got to get out of here. But this trip was so short and we did such fun, like summer in New York stuff. You know, like we went to a really close family member's wedding and we got to go to Tribeca and just like walking through the summery streets of New York with the sun setting. I was like, Oh, wait, do I miss this?

Diane:

Do I want to come back for longer time?

Adina:

No, no, no. But yeah, it was really fun and the movie was great and the experience is great. And that's what I've been consuming.

Diane:

Nice. Nice. Maybe I'll read a book by next time and I'll watch I'll watch The End of Hacks.

Adina:

I don't think I'll read a book. I've been just like turning some pages on just like some business development stuff, but

Diane:

Working,

Adina:

you know, boring.

Diane:

I read books for play. Although now, so I set a goal for myself, thinking 40 books. And I count audiobooks. I will fight people on that. That's the hill I will die on because some people are like, Oh, you're not reading. I'm like, then how do I know everything that happens? How did I know everything that happens in the book then? I'm like,

Adina:

let me ask you this though. Like, what if kids like never learned how to read and they just like, listen to audio books, how would you feel about that?

Diane:

Right. Well, I think that you'd say if it didn't count, you'd be ableist. So.

Adina:

Right.

Diane:

It counts. And I just love soaking them up, but I Read 41 books so far. A lot of them were on my kindle So a lot of them I was literally reading with my my eyeballs instead of my ear balls But I have a couple of pregnancy books that I can now add there that like that's the rare non fiction that I consumed But I didn't want to add them until after My announcement

Adina:

What'd you read? You read, read real food for pregnancy. Mm

Diane:

oh that one I read years ago, uh, and I wonder if I did put that up there I feel like I didn't put several work books work related books on there. But yeah, I love real food for pregnancy That's always when I recommend to clients There's a lot of overlap there and then expecting better. I liked that one So i'm trying not to read a ton of books around it I'm, just honestly just kind of winging it and there's a lot that I I feel like I knew but hadn't first hand experience just from serving so many clients through preconception and pregnancy, so that's fun. But now I can add a couple of them on there and people won't be like, I knew it. That was one thing with the announcement. Most people, everybody was really sweet and I forgot to say thanks to everyone who sent messages because a lot of them listened to last week's episode and sent me DMs and said that they gasped. Like. I'd say no less than like 10 people said, I gasped.

Adina:

I wanted them to gasp.

Diane:

Yes. So they gasped and said so many sweet things and they were just a few odd, like weird comments. And I had to nip it in the bud with a boundary.

Adina:

Mm hmm.

Diane:

like to, I thought you got a breast dog, like

Adina:

The boobies.

Diane:

stuff like

Adina:

The boobies.

Diane:

The boobies. I'm thinking of the musculus,

Adina:

muscles.

Diane:

the boobies, my boobies do be popping. And I love a compliment. Don't get it twisted, but like, don't be weird about it. We're in a vulnerable state.

Adina:

I think we're gonna have to do a whole episode about this, like pregnancy announcements or like pregnancy body image stuff.

Diane:

Yes. Actually, a few women said I didn't think to set this boundary with family when I was pregnant or, you know, I felt really sensitive and people would say things to me and I wouldn't know how to react. Like, I'm, I come ready with the clapbacks. So I like a nice warning and then after that I will clap back.

Adina:

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll do that. And there were a few, there were a few listeners asking for some of your Experience through this time. So whatever you want to share, um, we could totally do an episode around that, but that's that I think that's it. We basically we're consuming. Very few things. Yeah.

Diane:

Books and some exciting chicken. And now, I mean, we typically call the rest of the episode the meat, but I think today it's, it's going to be the juice.

Adina:

juice.

Diane:

The juice and maybe a snack to go with it, if you know us. So, yeah. So why this episode, Idina, why are we talking about juice right now, but at length?

Adina:

I'm feeling a lot like I should have brought myself a juice for this episode. Diana's her juice on behalf of both of us.

Diane:

And you can't see my cheese and crackers. I ate that before, so Adina didn't say, Diane, can you please back away from the mic with your noshing?

Adina:

um, yeah. So this episode, I mean, it's summer, it's hot. We need hydration and we love. eating seasonally. There's lots of juicy fruits in season

Diane:

of, a lot of melons.

Adina:

Get your tatas out the frame.

Diane:

lot of melons.

Adina:

Yes, the juicy fruits be juicing. We are noticing like the mocktail juice trend taking over macaques. Um,

Diane:

says, motcock a clock.

Adina:

I called it a mocktail only because like everyone else on the internet isn't as funny, so they call it a mocktail, but call it by its proper name, a

Diane:

talking about vibrators this episode? I don't know.

Adina:

It's, uh, it's mock cock o'clock, my friends. So, speaking of which, I was looking for a new, this is unrelated to this episode, but I was looking for a new pelvis model because I really want one with organs. Ha

Diane:

So niche.

Adina:

I know. Um, I really want one with the removable organs when I'm talking about like the rectum and stuff. Like I like to be able to show people how the muscles interact. Yes. Um, but I'm like, should I get this in the States and have my parents bring it for me? Or is there somewhere here I can order it from? And I found this website called like toys something. com. And I'm like, are we saying the same thing? Like this is an anatomical model of the pelvis.

Diane:

Did something pop up to ask if you were over 18 when you got to the website?

Adina:

might just be like a weird Israeli translation, but like, why is it called toys?

Diane:

Toys. Well, if you get it, you'll have to show the class

Adina:

I'll have to let you know. Anyways, so, you know, with Maakak clock coming round, coming round the clock, um, we've been noticing, y'all,

Diane:

clock.

Adina:

I'm tired. My contacts are getting

Diane:

I'm too immature for this. Some someone's gonna laugh at that funny you just made. Yeah, with seasonal fruits, with mocktails, trending, I mean, we we both love them, but with some caveats. We wanted to talk about juice and fruit with those caveats here, because if you listen to Any of our episodes about anything, we have nuance and we have some takes on these trends. And we especially wanted to talk about juice and fruit in summer because of things that we notice with clients and we want to have a conversation about blood sugar or insulin resistance, if that's something you deal with, or you have PCOS, or Something that I know that we both hear of is I've been rapidly gaining weight and what the heck is up with that? Or maybe you have cycle concerns. And so there are some things we want to think about like, yes, we love juice we love fruit and we're not going to Demonize it and call it candy But we want to talk too about how our perspective has changed over the last few years as ntps and strength training Professional

Adina:

Yes, yes, yes. Whenever things start trending, we're like, okay, we got to talk about this because are people applying this correctly?

Diane:

Yeah, yeah, totally. So how, I guess to set it up, how did we get here? Because I know, I think we both have stayed aligned on this throughout the years, but we had similar experiences through childhood got us here and through our coursework and work with clients.

Adina:

Yeah. I mean, both of, if you've heard us on any episodes, both of us screw up. With blood sugar issues, like way too much juice. I mentioned actually on like the last episode or the one before that, that I grew up around the corner from a seven 11 and like slurpees were just like a regular thing that we drank. Like how many ounces were those things? Like the giant one was a bazillion ounces.

Diane:

one needs that. And what flavor did you get?

Adina:

Definitely Coca Cola. It was also tricky because some flavors weren't kosher and then they would become kosher and it was kind of like, yeah, like there was excitement around when a flavor became kosher. So I think like, definitely Coke. Definitely, um, the blue one we talked about. What was it called? Blue

Diane:

Blue Razz, probably has some Blue Razz, unless I'm confusing Taco Bell.

Adina:

Yeah, maybe. No, what was it called? It was called. Oh, I got to look this up now.

Diane:

There's also a red one if you are interested in red 40

Adina:

no, I was, I actually never really liked the red one. It was about the blue one. It was about mixing the Coke with the blue and sometimes Fanta, but that was like a little too much for me. I wasn't really a Fanta gal. Um,

Diane:

we grew up with, I definitely had slurpees, slushie, slushies. That's something different. Slurpees. And for me and my house, I thought this was healthy. And I don't, I'm surprised I didn't have more blood sugar issues than I did. I mean, I played outside from in summertime from sunup to sundown. So I was. running around all crazy, but Sunny Delight, Sunny D, that was an after school thing with some Oreos, which is not a combo that I would think. Like, I would have my Sam's Club little pack of Oreos, and then I would have Sunny D, and I would go home and have pandesal, which is from a Filipino bakery. They're great fresh rolls, but I would slather some, some peanut butter on a hot roll. Jif peanut butter. So there was a lot of sugar happening. And then another thing that was very prevalent in our household was Juicy Juice, the Minute Maid Juicy Juice. Did you ever have that?

Adina:

Oh yeah.

Diane:

Do you remember that? It's a throwback.

Adina:

Yeah. Wow.

Diane:

Juicy Juice, and of course, and I guess this still exists, but I seldom see kids drink them, Capri Suns, where you stab,

Adina:

There's a version of it here that people drink gross.

Diane:

Gross. And it's like, it was always hot in my lunchbox, like hot juice. And no, but I thought this is health. This is healthy. I

Adina:

I am a picture of health.

Diane:

Because it's always fortified with calcium and the D and other things, but

Adina:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, so that was like childhood. And then I went to school for nutrition for, well, first I went to school for personal training and I was like steeped in the fitness industry where there was so much like polarity of like juice cleanses. But then the people who were like my quote unquote school of thought was like, don't drink your calories. You can't. You can't have all that juice. You can't have juice. You

Diane:

That's nature's candy.

Adina:

can't have juice. Like if you're drinking calories, it's gonna be like a protein shake, you know. Juice.

Diane:

Juice? Yeah, I think, um, even through the Nutritional Therapy Association when we went through the program, there was a lot of like, we'll limit the fruit. I know right out the gates, I was doing like a sugar detox, which had some good principles to it and made people mindful or aware of how much sugar is hiding in packaged foods and I think that had great benefit, right? But, um, I think the way that it approached fruit in some ways was Wasn't the way that I would do it now.

Adina:

Yeah, and I'm so curious to hear if they've shifted their perspective at all.

Diane:

it's no longer offered. It's, um, yeah, 21 It was a 21 day sugar detox

Adina:

I'm saying in the the Nutritional therapy association. Yeah. Um, cause I have seen them share some like reels on their account that lean a little more fruit heavy. Um, but yeah, I'm, I'm curious. I'd be curious about that, but I do think, like you said, the awareness, I think. When we think about it in the context of the standard American diet, and there are people slamming juice, then it's like, okay, let's bring awareness to just the quantity of carbs and sugar throughout the day. But what ends up happening is that In the context of a health giving diet, a real food forward protein forward diet, if we're still demonizing juice and fruit without any context, without any nuance that can become problematic. So, yeah, I think it kind of took that evolution for us to dig deeper and look at how we were serving clients. I know for sure the first few clients I worked with. We're not eating nearly enough carbs

Diane:

Mm hmm. Right, especially if they came from chronically dieting or training heavily. That kind of gets ingrained that, well, that's sugar and I'll save my I'll save my calories for wine. Which is also fruit juice.

Adina:

yeah, and also questionable perspective

Diane:

Yeah, yeah. So things have shifted, and then now too, and many of you listening may be familiar with this if you've dabbled in any way in like, holistic health Instagram, a big current trend that I'm seeing and seeing in food journals is pounding juice. Orange juice and then now cherry juice in the evening and I like I can dabble with some of those But I think that the degree that I'm seeing it in some food journals and Seeing it poured up on the gram I'm like this this fitting is this fitting for the goals that you've you've described and Where can we bring more nuance to this? Because maybe someone too is listening and thinking, okay, well, what's going to be the takeaway, how much juice for me? And it's gonna vary. Like we were hinting at earlier, depending on your age, your cycling season, your activity,

Adina:

hmm. Your muscles.

Diane:

your body, like all kinds of things. So. Yeah, there's not one answer, but I think a big trend is that people are now going hard. They went from juice cleanses several years ago to now we're pounding a big glass of orange juice, we're pounding some tart cherry juice at night to manage our blood sugar issues that maybe we would go about differently with food.

Adina:

Yes. So I think what we want to bring to this conversation is like pros, cons, and context for juice.

Diane:

Yes, so with that I'm gonna sip on, well this is some diluted, diluted

Adina:

It looks like sun tea, if you know what I mean.

Diane:

Sun tea? It looks to me kind of like someone's dehydrated. Yeah, it does.

Adina:

Do you know that 30 Rock episode? You know, that 30 Rock episode where Frank is like peeing in all those jars and putting them out the window. Okay. I'll send it to you. Her face.

Diane:

Great visual. It's a potty. I we did see a stand up comedian a couple weeks ago where he's talking about how he lives in his van and he's like, I mean, what's a bathroom? What's a bathroom like, is a Gatorade bottle a bathroom? Because I have a one bedroom five pad. Ugh.

Adina:

Gross. All

Diane:

Gross. So Rose,

Adina:

right.

Diane:

we start on a high note? I think we have an outline that way.

Adina:

Yes. Pros.

Diane:

Yeah, so, we like juice because, and fruit, because it's hydrating, especially when it's hot as f k outside and just regular degular water won't do. Um, and it's hydrating because it's packed with vitamins and minerals. Those antioxidants, which we love, and it can come in real handy if you are training and active, you're doing beach volleyball, you're chasing Ori around on the beach or

Adina:

That nutty

Diane:

crazy kids.

Adina:

Yeah. Like, you may notice that you crave these things in the summer for a reason. Um, you may, we did an amazing episode about cravings, but you

Diane:

a note.

Adina:

yeah, go back and listen to that one. But it's possible that you don't crave it. crave these things because you've been drowning out that noise for so long if you demonized fruit and juice. Um, but if you really like dial it in and clear out some of that food noise from artificial stuffs, you might notice that you're really craving More sugar. You're craving specifically juices, juicy fruits in those hot, sweaty summer months.

Diane:

some melon. Can I just say like some right now I saw a real, it was like, who else is in their second trimester and needs fresh ripe watermelon? I'm

Adina:

Mm hmm. Yup.

Diane:

That is a current favorite

Adina:

I'm not in my second trimester. I'm not pregnant, but I am craving watermelon as well.

Diane:

I love it. And um, I like, like pre cut. And then I keep stumbling on, I mean this could be another episode too, is like all the things you're not supposed to eat pregnant. They're like, do not eat pre cut watermelon. I'm like, the convenience? I'm gonna eat that pre cut watermelon. That's the, that's the luxury I desire.

Adina:

Yum. Um, yeah, that's been the watermelon, like if you ever are walking on a hot day and you just start craving like a smoothie or like a fruit ice pop, that's, uh, that's those cells talking. They're looking for some mineral hydration.

Diane:

Right, and maybe there are other times, like you were saying, seasonally, and I know we definitely talked about this in our Cravings episode, where in January, a Popsicle, no thank you, missed me with that Popsicle, and I don't typically put ice in my drinks, but when it's 85, or the humidity's on level 1000, I want that to hydrate me when I'm sweating buckets. Yeah, totally. So they're packed with vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, those things that can energize you down to a cellular level. We love that. And I always think now in context of H2MA because I've been swimming through those this past month as they come in, but I like certain juices or, um, I guess coconuts technically a fruit, but she's kind of like her own thing. I love that coconut water, um, to help bump up some minis like potassium,

Adina:

Mm hmm. Those tropical fruits will do it too.

Diane:

yep, those minerals that we love to eat out of our body when we're sweating or stressed. So that's a nice thing to bring into a mocktail mix or, Popsicle and it's soothing. So that's another thing too. We can't ignore that there's also like nostalgia. Uh, it's just Summer and fruit and refreshing bevvies

Adina:

Mm

Diane:

It feels it feels good

Adina:

Yeah. It feels good in the body for a reason. You know, sugar feels good.

Diane:

Yeah, and we also love uh juice and fruits Around workouts. So you want to talk a little bit about why that's a a pro?

Adina:

Yeah. I mean, it's so important to be fueling and recovering from your workouts properly. And we've all had that experience where you start your workout and you just feel like you hit a wall and you're like thinking that maybe, Oh, like this is when we start to tell ourselves those stories where we're like, Oh, maybe it's because I'm in this phase of my cycle that I can't work out. Perhaps you just need to slam some juice and you'll feel fine.

Diane:

Slim, yes, um, instead of a Pop Tart or, um, I'm thinking too, like after a workout or, or heading into a workout, I don't want like, brown rice or something dense. I want something that I can utilize. And we'll talk more about how to use juice best or fruit best around our context section. But yeah, it can, it can be a nice alternative to something that we don't like, like Gatorade or C4 or the powders that some lady lifters just put straight to their dome,

Adina:

Yeah, no, it could pro for carbs, especially easy carbs. Like juice can be really helpful around a workout. Um, and it, they're just yummy. Like juices. So yummy.

Diane:

And the ingredients, I mean, provided you're not drinking like my fortified Sunny D.

Adina:

Yep.

Diane:

Or juice that's been kind of ruined, um, but you have some fresh juice or some fresh fruit, that can be nice. So, some cons, some cons of juice, um, kind of just touched on this one, many brands add shitty quality vitamins. There's a brand, for instance, that I do like, I think it's Uncle Uncle Matt's? Uncle

Adina:

Uncle Matt's? Yeah.

Diane:

Uncle Matt's, yes, and there is one that is just straight up fresh organic orange juice but they also have one that's like their, um,

Adina:

Like a Munity blend or whatever? Yeah.

Diane:

blend that's ha that has D and A and some other forms of shitty, shitty forms of vitamins in there that I'm like, we didn't have to do all that.

Adina:

Yes. I was going to say that. I'm glad you brought it up. Even within the same brand, sometimes there is one that's great and others that are not ideal. So if you have like a partner who does the shopping, I know like when I go to my parents house and they try so hard to, get the stuff we want, which is so sweet. But sometimes I'm like, did you, did you turn it around and look at the ingredients?

Diane:

they're tricky some labels are so similar.

Adina:

Sneaky stuff. Sneaky, sneaky stuff. But yeah, you always want to read those ingredients. Even if it's something you've bought before. I feel like recently when I was in America, we bought like some gluten free cookie or something that we always used to buy. And I'm like, Oh, I didn't even read the ingredients. So they used to use palm oil and now they use canola and that's a bummer.

Diane:

they're cutting corners trying to save some cash I hate when they switch up a formula on

Adina:

So annoying. Yeah, King Arthur does that too, like randomly. It's like just what you want in there. And then sometimes there's all these like fortified iron stuffy stuffs.

Diane:

Oh, I know Oh, I still go hard for those brownies though.

Adina:

good. Gooey.

Diane:

Yeah, and speaking of fudgy gooey brownies, uh, juice, big hit of sugar.

Adina:

Yes, this is a pro anacond. Mm

Diane:

yeah, look what we did there. Uh, big hit of sugar, especially if you are going for the pulp free. Which, I mean, I'll be honest, it's my preference because I just hate the texture of orange juice with stuff I'm gonna have to immediately floss out of my teeth afterwards.

Adina:

Yeah, I don't know. Like, I juice my own oranges here a lot and Yeah,

Diane:

press, I love that thing.

Adina:

and like Donnie needs us to strain it and I'm like, yeah,

Diane:

don't mind it?

Adina:

I don't mind it.

Diane:

Ugh,

Adina:

I don't mind eating my juice.

Diane:

Chewing it up a bit. And I remember, actually, when we were going through our nutrition program, they did talk about including the, the pulp for fiber, which we're going to be talking about this more in our context section. Um, for me, it's just a personal preference, and I'm like, I'd sooner add some other, um, things to keep my blood sugar stable, but yeah, big hit of sugar otherwise. So what I see often on food journals is people might have a big old glass of orange juice or they're making that sleepy girl mocktail with a cherry juice and it's just a lot of juice, um, at one time.

Adina:

Yes. And then the biggest thing that I think we need to talk about that cannot be ignored is histamine because we see people slamming juice on account as the internets told them to, and then they're itchy and they're stuffy and they are not making the connection. Mm

Diane:

itchy and stuffy. So histamine, this goes out especially to seasonal allergy girlies. And those of you who might be in denial, we'll talk about some other signs that juice and, um, histamine intolerance is an issue for you right now. Um, I see this so much because I deal a lot with the gut stuff. I've been looking through so many food journals lately, but sometimes people might think that, either be in denial or just not know what to look for with this. Like, I've been adding in orange juice and then I'm shitting butt water right after breakfast. They might, they might not say that exactly, but they're like, Alright, they got the OJ, they have some dairy, some other high histamine foods, and then afterwards they're immediately in the bathroom, maybe they're stuffy, puffy later, but other ways that you might have, um, a histamine issue manifest that you might not think of is some anxiety or pulse racing, that's kind of generally like a food reaction symptom that a lot of people aren't aware of. Like, are you feeling like your heart's racing after you have something? Um, and then brain

Adina:

eczema flaring.

Diane:

yeah. Eczema. Um, so some of my clients will like kind of experience that on their face, but maybe itchy scalp. I've had that come up several times recently with folks and they might not feel like they have Quote unquote gut issues otherwise, but um a lot of them too will have a lot of cycle issues And then when you have high estrogen you have more histamine So you might notice that you don't tolerate that glass of juice that orange juice or those really ripe bananas Towards the end of your cycle and you're just like I'm stuffy and Stomach hurts for a number of reasons. Um, puffy. So that might kick up more at the end of your cycle when estrogen histamine are just partying. So definitely gut, gut and allergy connection here for sure.

Adina:

Yeah, and something I want to say about that before we go any further is that doesn't mean that orange juice is a bad food. And that doesn't mean that orange juice is a bad food for you forever. I think this is something we talk about a lot where like when we first started working with clients, maybe we did some food sensitivity testing years ago when we really incorporated that into our practice. We've since both moved away from that, but. Yeah. We would give people a list of foods that were issues for them at that time, and maybe we worked with a client for three months. And the goal was always to reintroduce those foods. But I've had clients who tell me like, Oh, I worked with you two years ago and I still haven't eaten a blueberry. And I'm

Diane:

Yes,

Adina:

No!

Diane:

too. I'm like, girl and your plan. We were, we were meant to reintroduce the afterwards.

Adina:

I think it's one of those things where like it gets in your head where you're like, Oh, I finally feel better. And then you think that those foods were the problem. And it is very true that if you're currently struggling with a massive histamine overload and your body is not clearing that histamine well, we might want to limit some of those high histamine foods like juices, especially citrus juice, especially when you buy a citrus juice from the store on Friday and then it sits in your fridge till the following Friday.

Diane:

At least. Yeah. And it was sitting in the store for a few days. I mean, a while before that.

Adina:

Yeah, so maybe something like swapping to I mean, I guess we can get into this more in the context section, but swapping to fresh squeezing your own orange juice and squeezing it the day of like I squeeze my one orange right into my glass and that's what I have for breakfast. And I do much better with that when my eczema is an issue.

Diane:

Right. And yeah, one, I think two of people realized. And if you're having a glass of orange juice, and this is kind of, this is like an old Rao's jar with my matcha that's like at the end here, but if you had this and you have like, half full with orange juice, that's a lot of oranges in one sitting, and to get the benefit of those beautiful vitamins, antioxidants that we were just talking about, uh, and minerals, then you don't need that much juice, or there are other things that we want to consider for, I don't know, the context of a breakfast or something, but yeah, like Adina was saying, The longer that juice sits in the fridge in that carton, the more you're going to have an issue, especially if you're someone who has a history of gut issues. You have a lot of seasonal allergies. I see this so much, um, because people are hearing the benefits of juice, but not realizing how that applies to their situation. And, um, Oftentimes with this too, I also see women adding in a lot of dairy when, years prior, they were an almond milk girly, they had, um, oat milk, and another thing that's great on paper, but can your body tolerate it well, right now, and so, if you have a lot of orange juice at breakfast, and you have yogurt, or you have, um, um, a moo milk latte and you're having cheese on your three eggs like great things on paper But then what's happening after breakfast? How's your tummy feeling? Are you feeling anxious and your heart's racing? like There are a lot of things that we think of and so it might just not be for you right now Or maybe we need to switch up how you're getting vitamin c. So we talked about histamine um But something that I'll see a lot on the HTMA is someone has a lot of seasonal allergies, they're not reacting well to juice and maybe to dairy, really low copper, really low, um, main minerals, like the first four on their test, like sodium, potassium. And so there are other forms of getting in vitamin C, if that's what we're after. There are other ways to get you to sleep through the night besides cherry juice. Like, we'll get into that in the context, but I had just lay it out there because I have seen it a lot this spring summer.

Adina:

Yep, it's ticking up. Um, and, and another piece of that too, is, um, Some fiber is nice. Like I think, yeah, we don't want to be like slamming fiber, especially if you have gut issues. But I think part of this juice trend is people are thinking that they're getting their fruit from those juices. And then they're not eating physical fruits or vegetables alongside their proteins. And, again, not that you need to be slamming these things, but we do need a certain quantity of fiber for optimized digestion.

Diane:

a lot of women following that trend of OJ and dairy and maybe raw dairy, they also have heard that veggies are bad. It's all kind of like, There is a template that some people are following that's, they've banished veggies and like we were saying, yeah, if you've got issues, we don't want to be eating lots of like raw broccoli from that office veggie party tray or a lot of things that are gonna make you bloat and gas up, but there are gentle ways of do that, to do that, cooking greens or roots and things, but, um, this also reminds me of one of my favorite Ingredients that I like to put into my mock cocks my mocktails Ollipop, I like a fun little drink and i'm not drinking it to heal my gut I think that people saw the poppy controversy recently and they're like suing them because like this is not Gonna cure your gut and people are like I want my fun little drink like I like it because it's a fun drink. Well, I saw this TikTok of this guy and he had an Ollipop and he's like, why did no one tell me there's nine grams of fiber in each can? I've had six of these today.

Adina:

Oh no!

Diane:

I was like, oh no. He's like, I went to the gym after having a few.

Adina:

No. But that right there, context. Context. It's not that

Diane:

a lot, baby girl, just a little

Adina:

it's just don't have six. Um.

Diane:

little drink and it's not your gut health plan.

Adina:

Yeah, I can't even do like a full can of anything, even like Spindrift, you know, it's too much, I need like, I can Maybe that's three servings for me and water

Diane:

And I think

Adina:

coconut water and ice.

Diane:

on the can, um, I think Ollipop serving does say one can, but there are other drinks where it'll say this has. three servings per can, and I can't do many bubbles either, so Neil knows. Like, he'll open one and, like, I have, like, a third to a half, and then he'll, he will have a couple. He likes the bubbles.

Adina:

I remember that actually, that's such a throwback to like fitness industry stuff. I remember like we thought we were like bursting the bubble when he found out that like vitamin water had like two and a half servings in the bottle. You know, that was like such a fun thing to show clients. Like, do you know how much sugar you're drinking? This is, you know,

Diane:

I mean, it is tricky. Like, how are you gonna have a bottle that fits in my hand and tell me that there's, like, five servings? Like, so can we get, like, really cute little bottles

Adina:

I feel that way about wine. Like. I feel like a bottle of wine is just too much. Yeah.

Diane:

There are sometimes mini bottles of wine. I want, like, a, yeah, a kid's pour. Or like, when we go, we like to get sushi, and then walk across the street. If you're local to me, Maru Sushi, I love it. And then, cause yes, I'm still eating that pregnant. And then, across the street is Furniture City Creamery, and they have unique flavors. And I like to get a kid's size, because even a single size is so

Adina:

So big.

Diane:

So big. Um,

Adina:

Wait, I wanted to say something about sushi. Is this just an Israel thing or do you, do they have pregnant sushi on the menu there?

Diane:

sushi. Now, well, I

Adina:

It just means the fish is cooked, but like.

Diane:

I think they'll just ask for it here, or they order vegetarian sushi, which I would never do.

Adina:

Ew. Um, can I have a hot take about sushi? So I feel like growing up, I don't know if this is a hot take. Growing up, I feel like the only sushi I knew about was like maki with like the seaweed on the outside. And then at some point in like high school or something, like everyone started making inside out rolls where like the rice was on the outside. And then I just got used to that. And that's what I thought of as sushi. And then last week I ordered with the seaweed on the outside. It's so much better with the seaweed on the outside.

Diane:

Everything's intact. And then,

Adina:

taste the seaweed more. Like I'm a maki girl now.

Diane:

There's also some that are wrapped There's a roll here that's wrapped in like a soy paper or something. And then of course I like, um, nigiri, too. Where it's like just the fish on top of rice,

Adina:

Yeah, but I love that. It's just salmon with the seaweed on the outside. Now people are sleeping on that. Yeah. All right. Should we get back into the,

Diane:

Oh yeah, the episode. I know I was gonna derail I mean, I was gonna derail us and talk about, uh, the Panera Lemonade controversy, but we can save that news for another Isn't it like Have you heard about this? How they're, like, heavily caffeinated? And

Adina:

That's crazy! What?

Diane:

like, someone died.

Adina:

No.

Diane:

I heard about this through, this is another great podcast, um, because I can't do and I don't want to do scary stuff while I'm pregnant, like it's just not for my nervous system, but it's called Dark History and she does different history stuff and, um, she did a deep dive into energy drinks and the history of them and how they used to put like cocaine and things and then Panera lemonade, um, apparently is heavily caffeinated and some people didn't know it, so yeah, in 2024 they discontinued it because high

Adina:

Why would you caffeinate lemonade? That's crazy.

Diane:

Right, it's already shaky, but yeah, someone died.

Adina:

All right. So yes, we mentioned some fibers, nice. And sometimes if we're so focused on juice, we are ignoring fruits and veggies. Um, and then the other big thing, I think we, we talked about how it's a big hit of sugar, but I think specifically realizing how easy it is to overdo it. I think like juice, it's so easy to drink. And. Especially if you're undernourished in general, I think those tend to be the people who slam juice because they start allowing themselves the juice and then they're just like, Oh, give me my body's like, give me, give me, give me. Um, so like if you're having three, 24 ounce glasses of orange juice throughout the day, perhaps this is overdoing it for you.

Diane:

What? I like the accents that we've

Adina:

You know, mint. Minnie says perhaps all the time and it's so funny.

Diane:

with like a very heavy like Israeli accent or

Adina:

no, she doesn't. She's just like, perhaps you want to, I'm like, what? Why do you say that? It's so cute.

Diane:

Perhaps?

Adina:

Yeah.

Diane:

I love hearing like the things that kids pick up on. You're like, well, that didn't come from us, but like, where did it come from? My friend Adrienne came up with her five month old and her two and a half year old. And, um, I put out blueberries, raspberries, I had kiwi. And I heard that kids, like, they mow down fruit, right? So I put out an assortment, and

Adina:

Wait, do you know that real? That's like,

Diane:

The fruit budget.

Adina:

it's like, um, I'm not going to tell you if my kids stop eating fruit, but there will be signs. And then it's just like that big yacht comes by. You know?

Diane:

Yeah, it's expensive. And I had, you know, I had all organic, da, da, da. So we had that out and he's enjoying it. He's two and a half and he's, he just picks one blueberry up by the stem and he goes, this is a nasty one. I cannot eat this. And I was like, Oh, sorry. But then he goes, is there Kiwi around here? And I go, yes, would you like one?

Adina:

So silly.

Diane:

Is there Kiwi around here?

Adina:

The silly.

Diane:

Yeah. So it is easy to overdo and I think to, uh, I mean, our lizard brain, if you don't, if you haven't been eating, you didn't have a snack, you didn't have a, a nice breakfast with protein to front load your day, your brain's like, where can I get a quick hit of energy? And it's like, ooh, this fruit, super easy, that quick kindling on the fire to like, juice me up, quite literally, to juice me up on the spot. You're gonna crave sugar.

Adina:

Yeah. Yeah. You're going to crave it and then you're going to slam it and then your blood sugar is going to crash and you're not gonna feel so good.

Diane:

Yeah, so we can't be slamming the orange juice and calling it an adrenal cocktail because on the opposite end of that, you're gonna crash and not feel so great. So, yeah, don't like that. So, shall we give them some context? For juice and fruits?

Adina:

Yes. We should. Juicy fruits. What were those commercials?

Diane:

And that's gum? I'm thinking That's the

Adina:

fruit. Yeah. Yeah.

Diane:

loses its flavor in like, a minute, right?

Adina:

Juicy

Diane:

Or is that zebra gum? Zebra gum.

Adina:

I just remember the commercials. Something. There was like something about juicy. Um, anyways, context, context, context. So like one big thing we need to ask ourselves is. Where is your blood sugar at? Because Slammin Juice is not for everyone. We need to understand our blood sugar, and specifically, you need to understand what's going on with you. Are you capable? of using that sugar in high quantity that you would get from a glass of juice, or is it going to a immediately spike your blood sugar and then lead to a massive crash? Or B, is that a big influx of calories for you? And it's going to be stored as fat immediately because you have nowhere to put it.

Diane:

Yeah, um, important to look at. I mean, we, we have so many new clients who are kind of on this roller coaster of big peaks and energy and then big dips where they feel exhausted, especially after meals. That's a question I like to include on my intake form is how do you feel like an hour after eating like a meal? Do you feel like your mental clarity is gone? Like the brain fog's there, you could lay down under your desk. I also like to think about what season people are in. And we've had some questions from listeners about like, how does all of this like trending diet advice or food advice fit for somebody who's later in their cycling season, their peri or maybe post menopause, because in that stage of life, the way that you would approach carbs could very likely be a lot different than someone who is 20 and cycling, right? So there's nuance there. Um, when I look at HTMAs, the hair tissue mineral analysis, there are a few, a lot of things I like to look at, of course, alongside someone's food journal and their intake, but some things include calcium and magnesium. So what's that ratio like? Is it very high, very low indicating that somebody might have a lot of like, blood sugar imbalances or insulin resistance, um, and magnesium. I mean, we love it. You might have heard it as part of your tart cherry sleepy juice mocktail, right? But that's a main mineral that we're going to burn under stress. Helps us relax, helps us go to sleep, helps us manage blood sugar. So, so many women that I work with, they're very stressed mentally and emotionally. burning through that magnesium, they're just also maybe depleted by it, is very depleted, and so they're not managing their blood sugar very well. That's a, so they're mentally, emotionally stressed, and then they have the physical stressor of their blood sugar being on these big highs and big lows. Um, some other things I like to look at on the HTMA, not blood sugar specific markers, but if they're, um, phosphorus marker is really out of whack indicating that they're not eating enough protein because that's important context that we also want to talk about next is how much protein are you eating at your meals, at your snacks, and just overall throughout the day.

Adina:

Yes. And that like all of those pieces to me are just like, ladies, if you are not Already focusing all of your workout attention on building muscle, please, please do it because eating protein and building muscle are the magic pills to fortify your blood sugar into perimenopause, postmenopause and beyond. We need protein. Muscle on our frame. We need it to help us balance our blood sugar to make us more insulin sensitive to give us a place to put sugar because it's one of those chicken or the egg things because like Diane was talking about, if you are so stressed and your blood sugar is a big element of that stress, but juice and sugar, especially mineral containing juice and sugars can be really soothing and can help us to manage those stressors. Especially you're, you've heard about the adrenal cocktail on the internet, and it is really, really adrenal supporting. It helps us to support that stress response, but it does need to be consumed in context. You do need to balance that. Amount of juice and sugar with some protein. If you are not capable of tolerating juice on its own, which so many people who come to us are not,

Diane:

They're not ready for it yet. Like start, instead of doing like four ounces, six ounces, or like we said earlier, showing this visual of like, I don't know what this could be, like that up here would probably be like 12, 16 ounces of juice. And that's like a serving that you would get at a restaurant, right? Like that's just way too high. So especially for the peri post menopause girlies, like start really low and you could dilute that or like have it with, have it with your, your breakfast or after breakfast, even better.

Adina:

Or as we were going to talk about around workouts too, like that can be a great way to get those minerals, that sugar, that soothing to your stress hormones, soothing to your stress glands, but then giving your body something to do with it. Right. Like, like you see you and kids just like have too much sugar and get the zoomies. Like that's their body trying to be like, I gotta use the sugar.

Diane:

Yeah, go go juice.

Adina:

Yeah.

Diane:

Because they can't, they probably aren't drinking coffee yet. So it's like kid coffee. Yeah, before workouts. Um, but yeah, if you're, I'm thinking of clients who train like in the morning. You're not just going to have like orange juice and then go train. I would love to have something else, um, kind of easier to digest too. And these are things that we, we troubleshoot with our clients. But, um, yeah. We spent some time talking on juice, also part of this conversation is building muscle and maintaining it, important note, and you have to do that by eating protein and sometimes I'll see in journals that women are like, oh, I have meat like once a day. once a day maybe or like a few times a week and It doesn't have to be steak. Certainly. We love it but maybe it is that chicken or maybe you are starting with fish if you Came from more plant based type approach or maybe it's adding that extra egg to your breakfast because you only used to have one But things that are going to be a lot more satiating keep your energy and your blood sugar stable longer is great and then we can pepper in some things like fruit and juices, but You Man, next time you go to a restaurant or somewhere where they serve smoothies, just look at the menu and just notice how big the portions are of juice and of carbs in general. And I think it'll open your eyes to how imbalanced this is, kind of broadly speaking.

Adina:

Yes. So if you are really struggling with juice and carbs and you are consuming those all throughout your day and noticing, like we said, a ton of weight gain or just a lot of those blood sugar symptoms, like that crashing, that anxious energy, trouble sleeping, um, right? Like they're drinking the tart cherry juice to help them sleep. They're not sleeping and they're not realizing that that's what's happening.

Diane:

I almost like slapped my mic out of the way. Yeah, the, Mocktail has cherry juice, but like, how much protein did we eat? Throughout the day and I know this is something you talk about a lot is like are we having trouble sleeping? But we didn't move our body. We didn't discharge this energy

Adina:

Yeah.

Diane:

Like I was sleep so much better when I train Early in the day and sometimes you're in a season of life. Like I know Adina is right now or our postpartum clients and moms like you train when you have to but like We have to look at the rest of the day and not just think like, this juice this juice

Adina:

It's gonna fix it. Fix my whole life, you little shit.

Diane:

better fix my whole life. Yeah. And we touched on this earlier is the juice and the gut connection. Are you someone who has allergies? Are you someone who specifically has a lot of stuffy, congestion? You If you're really being honest with yourself, don't do great with dairy. Um, and so are you feeling itchy? Do you have eczema, itchy scalp? Do you have to go to the bathroom right after you have juice or some dairy? Then maybe this isn't for you right now, but some, some context or something that maybe you could think about right now is there are other forms of getting vitamin C. And if you're trying to get in a soothing, mineral rich drink, um, so it doesn't just have to come from orange juice specifically. Maybe you do better with a different tropical fruit or lime juice or grape juice, grapefruit juice, but beyond that there are things like camu camu or other things that I'll have clients use if they don't tolerate vitamin C at high amounts right now.

Adina:

Right, there are training wheels that we can look to if you are looking to work up towards being able to tolerate juice better. And like we said, it can be so confusing because it is so yummy and so soothing. And so, like, you can get so lost in the experience of that. juice, that, you know, sleepy girl mocktail, that adrenal cocktail, whatever it is, and just the experience of sipping on it makes you feel so good. And then you kind of are blind to any symptoms that may be coming up afterwards or, you know, in the day or so following.

Diane:

And I don't know how we made it this far without talking about salt. I mean, maybe you aren't doing well with those things, but you, it's so easy. Like we all have salt, I would hope in our kitchens, like real salt that you could add a pinch of that and just start there. It doesn't have to be like, I'm doing this mineral rich drink. I have to have the juice. Like there are other ways that you can stay hydrated in the summer. Um, maybe starting with something else, like adding cucumber to your water, like other ways to. To spice up your fruit or to make it your spice up your water and make your water more fun and stay hydrated without Starting with a bunch of juice, you know

Adina:

Yeah, and we didn't touch on this, but I did want to talk about also the ratios like we see so often where people are like slamming orange juice, but like not bringing any awareness to how low their potassium is and

Diane:

you might not know unless you we do an HTM a race That's hard, but it is that is often really low

Adina:

Yeah. It's super, super common. And so maybe you don't love coconut water, but maybe that's a way better option for you. And just like a little bit of juice.

Diane:

Yeah. And, and also that with that too, not doing like a jug or a liter, a Kirkland liter of Costco, Costco coconut water, but starting with a little bit and, um, maybe adding some ice to it, I think makes the taste a little bit more palatable for my clients

Adina:

So true. Make it freezing.

Diane:

warm coconut water.

Adina:

Nope.

Diane:

That's yeah. I I've always had an aversion to that, but, um, yeah. Um, yeah, I think too, and we'll touch on this, but I want someone to hear it who needs it, is if you have a lot of histamine issues, if leftovers, if, if orange juice and milk are causing some bubble guts, and now you're connecting the dots in this episode, to, in order to get your immune system to calm the cuss down and tolerate that, we've gotta work on the gut a little bit, especially your small intestine, so there are gentle ways that we do that while we are working on your minerals, your cycle, your metabolism in other ways, but. The opportunity, if you have a lot of allergies, is working on that gut. And then you can have some juice without the itchies, the brain fog, all that stuff.

Adina:

Yeah. So to sum up, before we both share our macaque o'clock for this week, it's a new segment. Um, basically juice. is wonderful and super hydrating, but it does contain a large hit of sugar straight to the dome. And so we need to be considering Can you tolerate and in what context can that juice exist for you being mindful of histamine issues, being mindful of if you have a place to put that sugar. So focusing on building muscle, moving your body and balancing out that juice with the consumption of protein. Maybe that's putting protein powder in your juice mixture. Um, I know that can be supportive for people too, but just being mindful of in what quality. In what quantity and what context are you consuming juice

Diane:

Mm hmm. I can't imagine protein powder in a juice, but like in a smoothie where it's like creamy? Yeah, yeah.

Adina:

I could do, I could do like collagen powder in a orange juice, but I, I wonder if that's enough protein to balance the sugar in there.

Diane:

Or I'll have a meat snack on the side. That's

Adina:

That works too.

Diane:

scenario. Yeah. So, okay. So what's your mott kak?

Adina:

All right. Makaka clock around here is I just found this canned drink in Israel that's just organic juices and carbonation. And so there's a lemon lime one that's really yummy, and I mixed it with some coconut water and salt, and it was Deloche.

Diane:

Yum. Ooh, that sounds good. Uh, my current favorite, I've done a couple, but um, Trader Joe's yuzu, they have a Trader Joe's sparkling yuzu coconut water and they're in a pretty small can, but again, I still don't drink the whole one. So I usually will split it with Neil or tuck it away. So I'll do a little bit of that. And then I like to add a little bit of an Ollie pop. So again, another one that I'm like opening all these containers and either Setting

Adina:

to Neil.

Diane:

for, yeah, putting them in the door or like, I just, I just give him a drink and then he'll just take it. So I like lemon lime, Ollie pop. Um, so I'll do that, that combo of a little bit of coconut water, a little bit of that Ollie pop, and I'll dilute it a little bit more with like seltzer water. We have a lot of bubbles for someone who doesn't really like bubbles. And I like to add some fresh lime juice to it. If I really want to go crazy and make the glass look real cute, I might put some Tahini around the rim. And then do a lemon lime olly, a little bit of lemon lime ollypop. And I also have some herbal tinctures that I've been adding to that mothcock that are custom to me from my HTMA, so it, it turns this like, cool green color. So then it really feels lemon lime and, and spicy.

Adina:

Mmm. Um, mine was such a boring one just because I just discovered this canned beverage, but you know what? Next week, I'll spice it up. I'll spice it up for my cock a clock, a little razzle dazzle.

Diane:

what's in the can like, what juices are in there?

Adina:

Um, it's uh, lemon juice, lime juice, apple juice, I

Diane:

Apple juice?

Adina:

Um, I'm trying to remember, but yeah, it's yummy. It's yummy. All right. Well, there you have it. Is the juice worth the squeeze

Diane:

Yeah, sometimes, and provided that you build in that muscle and eating that protein,

Adina:

Yes, girlfriend.

Diane:

that's the gist. And if you need help with any of that, building the muscle, getting that histamine tolerance right and that gut right so your allergies aren't freaking out all summer long, then call us. Well,

Adina:

We know some gals.

Diane:

Don't, don't call us. We don't use our phone for that, but we'll, we'll put information in the show notes for how to get your HTMA review for July, August, how to get your cutie booty or strong functional booty into Adina's postpartum program.

Adina:

Oh, the ladies are grabbing the postpartum program and we love to see it. I can't wait to serve up these mamas.

Diane:

Yes. Stay hydrated

Adina:

Stay sassy. And unclench that b hole.

Diane:

Unclench.

Adina:

Bye.

Diane:

Bye. Cool.