Dennis Rox
127. Social Media Influence and the Rise of Reckless Stunts
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What if the influencers you follow are leading you astray? Join us as we tackle the complex world of social media personalities and their profound impact on our ambitions and actions. We scrutinize the phenomenon of influencers, especially those who claim expertise without proper sourcing, and emphasize the importance of responsible communication in an age where misinformation can spread like wildfire. Our discussion highlights the need for authenticity and accuracy, encouraging listeners to critically evaluate the information they consume and share.
But that's not all—brace yourself for a thrilling ride into the extreme lengths some people go to achieve viral fame. Imagine jumping out of a plane without a parachute, relying on a skydiver to catch you just 900 feet from the ground! We dive into the logistics, risks, and ethical concerns of such adrenaline-pumping stunts, questioning whether they should be encouraged or funded. Our debate touches on the influence of daring personalities on young people and the societal impact of these hazardous pursuits, offering a nuanced perspective on the fine line between bravery and recklessness.
Lastly, we venture into the transformative power of personal growth and self-reflection. Through candid and dynamic discussions, we explore how facing life's challenges head-on can lead to profound self-awareness and mental independence. From the emotional toll of high-stress environments to the journey towards breaking free from parental authority, we uncover the essence of true personal transformation. This episode is a compelling exploration of understanding one's motivations, the allure of living on the edge, and the quest for genuine self-actualization.
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Have a question? Ask us and we will discuss it during the next episode.
What if the influencers you follow are leading you astray? Join us as we tackle the complex world of social media personalities and their profound impact on our ambitions and actions. We scrutinize the phenomenon of influencers, especially those who claim expertise without proper sourcing, and emphasize the importance of responsible communication in an age where misinformation can spread like wildfire. Our discussion highlights the need for authenticity and accuracy, encouraging listeners to critically evaluate the information they consume and share.
But that's not all—brace yourself for a thrilling ride into the extreme lengths some people go to achieve viral fame. Imagine jumping out of a plane without a parachute, relying on a skydiver to catch you just 900 feet from the ground! We dive into the logistics, risks, and ethical concerns of such adrenaline-pumping stunts, questioning whether they should be encouraged or funded. Our debate touches on the influence of daring personalities on young people and the societal impact of these hazardous pursuits, offering a nuanced perspective on the fine line between bravery and recklessness.
Lastly, we venture into the transformative power of personal growth and self-reflection. Through candid and dynamic discussions, we explore how facing life's challenges head-on can lead to profound self-awareness and mental independence. From the emotional toll of high-stress environments to the journey towards breaking free from parental authority, we uncover the essence of true personal transformation. This episode is a compelling exploration of understanding one's motivations, the allure of living on the edge, and the quest for genuine self-actualization.
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On this week's episode. Half the shit I want to do in my life is because of influencers. I want to skydive, bull ride influencers it's all about following someone.
Speaker 2:Why is it all about following someone Like why can't you follow yourself?
Speaker 1:This guy his name is. You're not making money, Pedenkin. He skydived without a parachute. Yeah, his video has 43 million views. Nobody gives a fuck.
Speaker 2:This is the most honest thing I've heard on this podcast in a long time.
Speaker 1:I'm keeping the idiot thing, yeah, as a backup If it doesn't work out, and I think I have to get rid of the backup, yeah.
Speaker 2:Isn't that profound? All right, Toli what's today's topic.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think how I can Phrase this Best phrase it yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You ever just throw shit out there and you kind of rephrase it Well. See if I understand what you have a problem with. Okay, I think that you have a problem with. Well, first of all, there was a very specific clip that we watched.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Of a guy claiming that he, if you're going to bring him up, call him out, man.
Speaker 2:That's too easy. To call somebody out is too easy, especially a dumbass like him. Here's a guy who's claiming he knows something and he knows it to a point where he now became the embodiment of that knowledge, right, or that body of knowledge, and he's claiming now he's the source of that knowledge and he doesn't have to source anyone or anything that he learned it from. So he's kind of sourcing himself. So ultimately he's like claiming that he knows this stuff. He's what it is, he's a representation of it and nobody can tell him otherwise. And you have a big problem with the fact that a lot of people actually do this right when they yeah, but you got to put it in more plain text.
Speaker 3:Plain text.
Speaker 2:You said something very, very complicated and hard to understand a lot of times people make statements about the world, about their experience, and they take ownership of it, right. Yeah, take ownership of it, and they take ownership in such a way where it's almost like they created it or they birthed it, right. But it's really a culmination of stuff that they've heard something, somebody told them that maybe they've been influenced, right. And next thing, you know, they run with it like it's theirs, right, and they live this thing out, this reality that was culminated maybe by someone else in their minds.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not only do they live it out, but they also influence others with it as well. I think that's also part of the issue Do they try?
Speaker 2:Well, I think they do. All right, so let's start from the beginning, and I think Harris can chime in into this, because he had a problem with the whole he had a question about around influencers spreading, yeah, right, and information spreading properly, yeah, um, I, I think for the wrong information to be heard or understood incorrectly, you, um, you need it from another source.
Speaker 3:That's also doing it wrong, right, like, oh, really, yeah, probably, I think so. Right, because, like, if, if you know something, or like, um, you discover something, is true, I think that if you're going to tell somebody about it or explain it, um, I think that you should do it in a proper way, where the person walks, walks away with the correct understanding of it, almost, um, but the, the, this kind of like perpetual cycle that happens. It it's, it's just people who have a perception of something, or think that they understand something and they influence others, that then influence others, that then influence others, because somebody like, like, where, like, wherever he learned this information from. There's no way that this person was like speaking the truth or like embodying, let's just say the truth, because somebody who does that would not speak in that kind of way or would not like, uh, influence someone like that you say that inherently they'll do the right thing and they'll try to yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3:yeah, now, like, can people misunderstand something? Um, yeah, they can. Like, uh, I'm not not sure if that's the responsibility of the person that like knows to make sure that they do not walk away from the interaction unless the person prop like is able to like properly display that they actually understand what they're saying. Yeah, because, like, the person could say yes, yes, yes, but then like not understand it, then potentially still spread fake news, right, yeah, um, but yeah to to.
Speaker 3:To me, the way I look at it is that it's a perpetual cycle of, like one person living life the wrong way or understanding things the wrong way, and then them kind of like um continuing to influence others, so, um, to think and do the same thing.
Speaker 3:And I think we live in a society where, uh, influence is everything and, um, the battle, I think, in the world is like right influence and wrong influence. Right, like, maybe there's an influence, for example, like in like girls, for example, to look a particular way or to like edit their faces in particular ways, or to post particular pictures or be a particular weight, and then that gets like spread right, and that's one like wave of influence that's going on the whole world right. And then there's like a different group of people that are like no, like that stuff is all fake and we need to raise awareness to let people know that, like this is not what they're striving towards, this is not what's important, and then, like they have their influence. Yeah, yeah, you know, and maybe there's some people that are in between um, and then they have their influence how do do you feel about this, Harris?
Speaker 2:Seems like you got a problem with it, with the whole influence thing.
Speaker 1:So you're saying the influencers, right that are out there. Nothing's good has came from it, correct? That's basically what you're saying. That's not what he said at all, that's not what I'm saying at all. That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 2:Okay, can you explain to us how did you hear that and which part gave you that impression?
Speaker 1:Everything you just said. Okay, I think the world wouldn't be where it is today without these influencers. First of all, okay, especially for us younger folks, not you guys nearing your middle-aged, grand parts of your life coming up, mm-hmm, okay. Yeah, I guess influencers have a big impact on the younger generation. Okay, it's something I guess we strive to be like, mm-hmm I watch a lot of influencers and I want to do the same thing. Sure, okay, it's something I guess we strive to be like Mm-hmm, I watch a lot of influencers and I want to do the same thing they did. That's their job, mm-hmm Is to influence you, mm-hmm, okay. Okay, half the shit I want to do in my life is because of influencers. Okay, all right, we talked about it. I wanted to skydive, bull ride Influencers it's all about following someone.
Speaker 2:Why? What do you mean? Why is it all about following someone? Why can't you follow yourself? For example, I am. I launched several influencers. Are you sure you are following yourself?
Speaker 1:or you're following influencers. No, I made a goal, I made a goal. You find an influencer and you think to yourself, when you actually see something amazing, like, oh shit, that's fucking cool. It's like, yeah, I want to do that shit that's influencers. That's what they are. These are especially teenagers, not saying I look up to these guys. The teenagers, yeah, they look up to the influencers. They're to kids nowadays. These are their role models. Basically, they're heroes, just the way it is there has to be an explanation for it.
Speaker 3:Man, it might be the way it is, but there has to be an explanation.
Speaker 1:So let's put it this way right back in my time growing up, before the influencers came out, the, the celebrities all anybody ever cared about were the actresses, the actors, the singers, stuff like that. This generation, it's the YouTubers, the TikTokers. Okay, right During the COVID-19 pandemic, paparazzi stopped going after celebrities and started going after YouTubers, influencers. Okay, I mean, because that's what the new generation wanted Craving, yes, okay. Look at some of these YouTubers. They're richer than some of these singers that have been doing it for over 20 years.
Speaker 2:Okay. So there you go, you're getting at something, okay. So the reason why maybe these kids are following them is because they're richer.
Speaker 1:Fuck yeah.
Speaker 2:They have riches.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about Mr Beast Mm-hmm. All right, okay, mr Beast and Mr Beat, whatever the fuck his name is, mm-hmm, he's worth 500 million, okay million.
Speaker 3:Okay, uh, let's talk about another one, right, uh, who else no? But what, what, what's?
Speaker 1:the point, I guess, of sharing what, what they're worth, because this is what the younger generation wants, right everybody there has been. There's been several instances, I guess, where following Influencers has led to catastrophic incidents. Basically, some kids look at influencers right doing this crazy shit and they try to attempt it themselves. I remember a couple years ago there were 16s on a boat that were killed while trying to do high-speed maneuvers in a boat and they ended up killing themselves trying to become YouTube famous.
Speaker 2:Because an influencer did it and they were following the influencer's kind of ways.
Speaker 1:No, the influencer did something crazy and they said, well, we're going to do our own kind of thing. Crazy, okay. And they collided with another boat and died in Florida. Okay, another kid 15. He's alive, but he free climbs skyscrapers to get views. He's been arrested five times. Okay, pretty sure an influencer had something to do with that. Everyone knows one viral video. One viral video can shoot you to stardom. That's it. Let's talk about the Hawk Tua girl. Okay, let's talk about it Again. One viral video. Okay, right, it's the biggest video on social media right now. Okay, so what? She's everywhere. Okay, she's making. She's using that to her advantage. She's making fucking millions. This is what kids want. They don't care how bad it is. I don't think she's making millions of dollars.
Speaker 1:She got an agent. She's going on podcast now and the agent is now charging for her to go on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they said that she's getting $30,000 for an appearance.
Speaker 1:Right, but imagine how many appearances she's going to do. If she's doing a lot of appearances.
Speaker 3:And how long will that last? That's cool for the next few months. Well, let's talk about another guy when I was in high school, right Deez Nuts guy.
Speaker 1:You remember Deez Nuts? The guy used to go guess what I got in the mail today Deez Nuts. Oh shit. Get in the goddamn mail, fuck you. But he's worth a couple mil himself because he kept making videos like that shit. So there's a lot of kids that nowadays they don't want to be actors, they don't want to be singers, they want to be influencers Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:So the point is that he's trying to say is that they're listening to these people because these people have money. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:Like I said, quick money too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's easy to do it right, Because all you got to do is have one viral video that shoots you to star. Yeah, but what does that mean? That it's easy? Right, All you got to even I see it this way all you got to do is something stupid that's never been done before Mm-hmm, and you're going to have a whole bunch of buck followers.
Speaker 3:So why don't you do that? I want to.
Speaker 1:Why? What are you waiting for? It's so easy. I need some money to get this shit started. How much? What do you need? Why are you going to pay? How much money do you? I need a budget. I'll save like 20 grand 20 grand.
Speaker 2:And what's going to happen? You're guaranteeing a viral video and you're going to go to the top. Uh yeah, what happens if it doesn't happen?
Speaker 1:I'll probably be dead if it doesn't happen. What does that mean?
Speaker 2:Are you going to pay somebody to not kill you?
Speaker 1:I'm trying to find a. Uh, I came up with the perfect way. I'm trying to find a certified skydiver who's like a trainer to go up with me in a plane and jump out without a chute. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:This has been done before already.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know this has been done before, but I don't want him to catch me until it's like his alarm is going off, letting him know he's getting close to the ground. Okay, so this sounds very stupid. Well, it's been done before, Sure, but like, how is that viral? It's going to go viral. Why? What do you mean? Why, if it's been done before, it hasn't been done? That close to the ground is what I'm saying. So you're breaking a record. I want to, yeah.
Speaker 2:Is this a Guinness World Record that you're setting?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna look it up to see if it's a Guinness. Okay, so you don't even know. I want to be like, let's say, 900 feet from the surface. Get in your goddamn mind. Why not break a record while you're at it?
Speaker 7:why not just break your?
Speaker 3:neck too. So if it doesn't work out, you're dead and you're okay with that how fast are you traveling at that speed?
Speaker 1:is it 900 feet a second without a shoe? Yeah, without a shoe. Who came up with this idea? I can't fathom how dumb this is. Yeah, without a shoe. Who came up with this?
Speaker 3:idea. I believe it's 60 seconds. Yeah, I can't fathom like how, like?
Speaker 2:When did you like? I would like to know the setting.
Speaker 1:I came up with it, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but can you describe the setting that it was that you came up with this idea? Like you were on the side of your bed. Well, you know, we were talking about how I wanted to skydive.
Speaker 1:Okay, wanted to skydive. Okay. I said, why not make it viral? Okay, I'll jump out without a shoe. Uh-huh, get, hire someone to fucking jump in after me. Yeah, and guess what? These guys are basically trained to jump after people. Okay, because if they fuck up their job right, a certified instructor, okay, is to save their lives.
Speaker 7:He's not going to do it, so much of a risk to go close to the ground too. So he's an idiot. If you pay him enough, if you pay him enough.
Speaker 2:That's why you need the 20 grand.
Speaker 7:So you're already talking to another dum-dum.
Speaker 2:You already talked to this guy. Who's?
Speaker 1:willing to do this If you go up. So wait, so who's going viral?
Speaker 2:You.
Speaker 1:I'd be the one talking before jumping out.
Speaker 7:Why do you need 20 grand? A jump is like two-fifths, no, but to buy him off To buy him off, he can lose his certification. Oh, why don't you put him in a mask?
Speaker 2:And don't pay him the 20. Why don't you hold a gun to his head? Oh, shut the hell up, man.
Speaker 1:You're talking about sticking up a fucking plane now, is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 2:That's going to go viral. It's going to go viral. Dude, hold a gun to his head inside the plane and take off all your harness and everything and say I'm going to kill you if you don't call me.
Speaker 1:The new jackass, it's going to be called dumbass. Okay, tell me, that's not a good fucking idea. You want me to tell you the truth or you want me to tell you the lie? I'd say the risk is worth the reward. Right? I like a little risk.
Speaker 2:Okay, what's the reward? This is guaranteeing you getting viral.
Speaker 1:It's guaranteeing me to go viral dude. And what's the risk? Right, if it meets the Guinness World Record thing, I'll hit the news. The video hit the YouTube channel. It's all done. Guy does something so fucking stupid and risks his life to break a Guinness World Record. I didn't read that, but I'll be a legend.
Speaker 2:I'd like to sit down with a person who installed these stupid ass ideas with you on this podcast. No one installed them and put their pants down and spank them.
Speaker 1:I actually came up with this idea from a guy I watched when I was a kid. This is what you think From a guy I watched. You've probably heard of him. You ever hear of Travis. I forgot his last name, scott, no, pastrani Pastrana, travis Pastrana.
Speaker 2:He jumped out naked or whatever.
Speaker 1:No, he jumped out shirtless, in a bathing suit. But he did not do it from a plane, did it from a helicopter.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you're doing it from a plane.
Speaker 1:Oh, that changes everything.
Speaker 2:Now I see the vision. Yeah, he has enough time to grab me. So the goal is for you to work here, make $20,000, save up.
Speaker 1:No, I'm going to continue to work here. Okay, I do stupid videos on the side. Yeah, that's all right with you, right boss?
Speaker 2:It's perfectly fine with me.
Speaker 6:We got to put you into so here you go right.
Speaker 2:Harris, thank you so much for being a crash dummy for our podcast.
Speaker 1:Well see.
Speaker 2:I think that, going forward, I think you're going to be a perfect example and you're going to probably help us bridge the gap between the idiots and the people that have a little bit of sense to understand what we're talking about here. Right, you gave us a very good example.
Speaker 1:You need to have some rest, bro. You need to enjoy your life.
Speaker 2:You need to live in a Adrenaline rush life man, listen, I'm not arguing any of this stuff, right, we're not arguing this, any of this stuff. But we're trying to say now we're going to pivot to what Tole was saying that right Influences right out there influence people right, such as yourself, right, in such a way where then you guys right, go out there and live this stuff out, and you don't even know how far this goes and how long you're gonna live this out, for you just do it without any questions, without any kind of like repercussions.
Speaker 1:You know accountability you just go on. Time is when you don't have any responsibilities at home what?
Speaker 2:yeah, okay, yeah, so our questions, you know, then start to come up based on what you said. We want to find out, like, what's actually going on here and why is this happening in the first place, and whether or not this should continue to go on? Right, because the truth of the matter is like we don't have a horse in a race in this little situation. So, whether you do this or not, we don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1:See, one thing I can say is you know how shit like this was done on TV? It's a do not try this at home. This is professional stunt, yeah. Or professional trainers this and this yeah, they don't require that for the YouTube channels, anything like that. So what does that mean? So it's basically encouraging everyone to get rid of fucking shit, okay.
Speaker 2:Alright Toe, you're having a hard time. You should be rubbing your forehead. This is a perfect example of what you were talking about.
Speaker 3:No, it's definitely a perfect example, but it's like this is great.
Speaker 1:I think there's a good chance of survival. You don't see it?
Speaker 2:Harris, I don't even care about this stuff. I don't give a fuck if you die off this shit and I don't give a fuck if you go viral off this shit, I don't care. We have something else to discuss now. You were a perfect, like I said, crash dummy for this situation and we're going to use your example to see whether or not we can crack this code or this spell that these influences put on the population, like yourself, because you're representing the population right now. What's the problem?
Speaker 3:It comes down to what Reasons for doing stuff like this stem from what he's cheap. Getting rich yeah, like getting rich having some kind of fame yeah.
Speaker 2:And like, but he doesn't need much.
Speaker 1:He's cheap. I would like $10 million.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but $20,000 gets you there, so forget about the $10 million?
Speaker 1:What do you mean? $20,000 gets me there.
Speaker 2:You just said you're going to be rich and famous if you do this stunt for $20,000.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck about fame.
Speaker 2:You put up the $20,000 and then you get your fucking riches and fame. I don't give a shit about the fame.
Speaker 7:Would you be willing to go to Shark Tank and pitch this idea? Oh wow.
Speaker 1:I don't think they'll buy in dude. Why would you be willing to? I mean what's? His name Cuban. Mike Cuban. Mike Cuban's a crazy dude.
Speaker 7:He likes adrenaline too.
Speaker 1:He likes adrenaline Okay Should we start a GoFundMe for Harris.
Speaker 2:I have $1,000 right now and on it.
Speaker 1:I'll throw $200. I think, Letterfriend should just foot the bill and come along for the ride.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll probably pay extra $10,000 to see you die on the stunt, Like if you die, I'm like, yes, $10,000 extra.
Speaker 1:Damn bro. It's like that you want to see me just croak.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying like you're not going to get your dream, you're not going to be famous. You, you're not going to be famous, you're not going to do nothing. I want to give the $10,000 at least for like to boost your like thing.
Speaker 1:I would be famous. But it would be the bad thing. It would be informing the world that another fucking young guy fucking died attempting to uh like another dumb ass make a YouTube video, but it's not.
Speaker 1:The chances of dying are like slim because these guys have done it before. Like I said, their job these trainers are to make sure that if you can't pull your chute or your chute functions when they're training you is, they come down and grab you can we pitch this idea to a professional, like we'll have a meeting and he'll sit down with him, say like, hey, is this possible?
Speaker 3:like yeah, I think it is. Would you like that? I'll sponsor that, would you'll?
Speaker 1:Sit down with him. Say like hey, is this possible.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I think it is man. Would you like that, would you?
Speaker 2:like I'll sponsor that. Would you like to sit down with a professional skydiver to sit down and pitch this idea?
Speaker 3:What does it cost to go skydiving. Let's put $250, $300. Okay, so we'll pay him $250, just for the meeting not to even Okay.
Speaker 1:A skydiver did it with Travis Pastrana. Skydiver done it, has done it with other people, Mm-hmm Right. So if I say, hey, if I gave you $20,000, would you do this? Okay. We'll see what he says.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, we'll start making some calls on Monday or when I come back from vacation. We got to meet with them, okay, no problem. Now here's the question. Here's another question that's coming. Well, we didn't answer the question yet, but another question comes up is like should you try to dispel this ideology or should you just go with it?
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, that's like a hard thing to like. A little bit for me to understand is like, yeah, should you try it or not? Because, like to me, if it's like it's very hard to be around like a person like this and not try to rub like a good influence as much as possible, but then it's like the good influence is obviously a disruptor for, like the current plan, yeah, and it's like it's not being asked it's not being yeah, Like the current plan, yeah, and it's like it's not being asked.
Speaker 2:It's not being like you're not being summoned to. Like hey, can you give me some good influence here? Like, instead, he's like yo. I just need some money. I need letterfront to sponsor this so I can do what I want.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. So right pussy I've ever met, I ain't no pussy, I ain't no pussy.
Speaker 2:Like I said, you're one of the biggest pussies I've ever met Letter.
Speaker 1:Friend needs to come with me.
Speaker 3:I don't get it If you like to live on the edge? What are you doing here?
Speaker 1:What do you mean? I need to work.
Speaker 3:Why You're not living on the edge.
Speaker 1:How are you living on the edge every second of the day, when? Was the last time you did something on the edge. I tried to jump over your fire pitch.
Speaker 3:When was the last time you did something on the edge? What the hell was that bro?
Speaker 2:If you really wanted to, you would have jumped, and you didn't, and that showed me that you're the biggest person, john Crespo held me back.
Speaker 3:When was the last time you did something on the edge?
Speaker 1:Yeah, except jerking your dick, edging your dick. Rode, a bucking horse that wrecked me the fuck off. When was this? Rode, a four-wheeler on the highway opposite direction. When was this? How many cars were coming towards you?
Speaker 2:There was one car. There was one car.
Speaker 1:And I waited until the last minute to turn it you have a video of this. No, I don't, oh, okay.
Speaker 3:So you didn't go viral. So when was the last time you lived on the edge?
Speaker 7:There's one car every 80 miles in Nebraska Two years ago.
Speaker 1:And I guess I'm itching for a little more adrenaline. Rush over here.
Speaker 2:Well, let's give it to him. Yeah, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1:Let's go.
Speaker 2:Where do you want to go?
Speaker 1:Get up on that plane, man. What are you waiting for?
Speaker 2:yeah, you want to just jump off the plane isn't that what we're talking about? Is that what you want to do?
Speaker 1:yeah, alright, you gotta live a little on the edge, unless you haven't lived at all, man, I guess. Once I tasted a little adrenaline, I just want more and more and more.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, it sounds like he's not addicted to adrenaline, because adrenaline junkies yeah, they don't wait two years. Okay, yeah, it sounds like he's not addicted to adrenaline, because adrenaline junkies yeah, like they don't wait two years to do another.
Speaker 3:I never met someone like that. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7:Why don't you ride a motorcycle with a blindfold on the highway?
Speaker 1:That's not a bad idea.
Speaker 7:You're welcome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess like when life is like in general not so meaningful like the the these are like the things that he's resorted to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think Mike just volunteered his sports bike. Did you just volunteer your sports?
Speaker 7:bike, as long as we can record it. Why?
Speaker 2:because there's no real umpho, like there's no real energy, there's no real excitement he said that, like once, I got a taste of the adrenaline.
Speaker 3:Like you know, if you don't experience this, then you haven't really lived Exactly, so then there's no living going on day to day, hour to hour, it's like a vegetable.
Speaker 1:So the whole thing that I've been doing for the past couple years was trying to figure out what would be the biggest adrenaline rush. I would have out what would be the biggest adrenaline rush. I would have One where I would come down, after surviving whatever I do, with the biggest fucking smile on my face. What did you deduce? A skydiving Jumping without the chute Jumping without the chute?
Speaker 2:Yes, so jumping with the chute would be corny.
Speaker 1:There is an 80% chance I will make it because this guy will catch me. There's a 20% chance I won't.
Speaker 3:And how did you come up with those numbers? Because?
Speaker 2:I've seen these guys fucking jump without You've seen 10 videos, where eight of them successfully landed.
Speaker 1:But you don't hear about people dying. You would hear about them dying on the fucking news and don't hear about people dying. You would hear about them dying on the fucking news and you barely hear about them dying.
Speaker 3:How do you get 20% and 80%? You're assigning numbers to it. Numbers are finite amounts.
Speaker 1:These past five years, only two people have died, Out of how many? Oh shoot Millions a year.
Speaker 2:You're not at 20%.
Speaker 3:What am I at Not working?
Speaker 2:Well, tell me, what do you think?
Speaker 3:Two dead of Of millions, Million. What is that percentage? 99.
Speaker 7:Okay wow, that's pretty close.
Speaker 3:Okay, so how do you go from 80 to 99 now?
Speaker 1:Because I got an 80% chance, because that's regular people skydive.
Speaker 3:So 20% of people die Without the shoot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that means out of every 10 that go skydiving, there's not many that try it. So then how?
Speaker 3:do you get 20%.
Speaker 1:There have been like 10. They've made it, but there's always a risk. That's why a lot of people that do this with you make you sign a contract. You voluntarily did this and you understand that if you die, the company can't pursue you.
Speaker 3:Because it's so stupid.
Speaker 2:It's not stupid for him.
Speaker 1:I'm really fucking excited about it, man.
Speaker 3:He's buzzing. He's just throwing out random shit.
Speaker 1:Let's go.
Speaker 3:Let's go right now. I think at least 40% of people that get shot in the forehead dead blank survive what? I think it's a coin flip. When was the last time you heard someone get shot in the forehead on the news and die? Every fucking day. Not in the forehead, different places, it's a coin flip. I'm telling you, if you get shot in the head, it's a coin flip. Not in the forehead, different places, it's a coin flip. I'm telling you. If you get shot in the head, it's a coin flip in the forehead.
Speaker 1:It's a coin flip it's a 50-50 chance you wanna hear something crazy when I was in Nebraska at this carnival there was a guy from the county that Brittany's my sister-in-law's family lived in. Half his face was missing like it was just my sister-in-law's family lived in. Half his face was missing Like it was just so. He survived. So he's good he survived putting the shotgun under his face.
Speaker 3:So he's part of that 50. The other guy didn't make it. Whoever it was, yeah, so 50-50.
Speaker 1:They said he should have died. Oh yeah, but he didn't. No, he didn't. But the point is that is 99.
Speaker 3:If you shoot, yourself in the fucking head, you get shot in the head at 99%. I was on vacation with my family in Maine, uh-huh Right, and there was always this guy in town that everybody knew and he was always trying to, you know, find the thrill.
Speaker 1:So his thrill was shooting himself in the head.
Speaker 3:What? Well? No, he wanted to attempt it. He actually shot himself in the forehead and he survived. Would you like?
Speaker 1:to test it out? Me yeah, should we test it out?
Speaker 3:I don't want to test it out, I don't want to coin flip.
Speaker 1:I think we should test this out.
Speaker 3:No, I don't want to test it out. I think we should test this out. No, I don't want to coin flip.
Speaker 1:You'll just stand right over there and we'll have a little fun with this.
Speaker 3:It's a coin flip. Harris, it's a 50-50 shot.
Speaker 1:It's better than what I'm planning on doing. Right, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Also, I heard that if you encounter a great white shark, it's an 80% survival rate. They're just bullshitting online.
Speaker 1:No. It's an 80% survival rate if you know what you're doing. That's what I'm saying. I've watched videos where these marine biologists are in the water with these great whites and they basically show you what to do. If you encounter one, If he's coming at you, there's two things you can do. You could push their heads down, which tells them you're not.
Speaker 3:You know, you're more sophisticated and smarter than they are To kind of float away from you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it swims around. They'll come back again and you do it again. The second way is you swim over the shark in a certain way and it's basically letting them know you're not a normal fucking fish and 80% of the people know these techniques, Therefore they survive, If you learned it Also.
Speaker 3:These people, they climb mountains and they're afraid to just jump off, to jump on the rocks. They think it's a 99% chance of dying, but I heard it's only 10% at most.
Speaker 1:What mountain are you talking about I?
Speaker 3:mean any of these Everest, Whatever you might break your leg. But how far are you talking about? I mean any of these Everest, whatever, it's, just rocks you might break your leg.
Speaker 1:How far are you dropping? I don't know. A thousand feet. You're at a goddamn mine. No, it's a, you're at a goddamn mine.
Speaker 3:A thousand feet, that's 10% chance of dying Max.
Speaker 1:That's like me, right Falling in a fall?
Speaker 3:When was the last time someone jumped off Mount Everest and died?
Speaker 1:I think a lot of people have died on Mount Everest.
Speaker 3:I haven't heard of that ever. That's a 10% chance.
Speaker 1:Excuse me for a minute. I need to conduct some research. Okay, sounds good, so what are your?
Speaker 3:assessments. It's pure retardation.
Speaker 2:Wow, you're bringing out the non-PC word today. Yeah, I mean, I think it's very good. Why Mike Unline this?
Speaker 7:Seems like, oh, seems like. Hitting rock bottom is super necessary.
Speaker 2:Well, no, I think that with this whole influence thing, I think the rock bottom has been redefined. That's true, right when it's like. Well, maybe not actually.
Speaker 7:I'm not sure, but I think getting here is faster this way.
Speaker 1:I just want to state over 340 people have died. I'm out at risk.
Speaker 2:You did not say anything just now, not jumping off. You just didn't say anything just now.
Speaker 1:You don't know if they jumped off.
Speaker 2:How would you?
Speaker 3:know, Next, thing, you know the body just floats. This is what he heard, that's what I'm saying, that's what I heard. It's only 10% chance of dying 90% of survival. 10% chance of dying, 90% of survival Okay first of all, and people who aren't even willing to try it are pussies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're already up there. Shut the fuck up. You're already up there, you might as well jump. You're a pussy man.
Speaker 3:You're already up the mountain, you might as well jump just to see. That's just stupid. It's a 90% survival rate.
Speaker 1:This is what you're talking about. Man, you're here. This is what people say, right, you're here. This is what you heard and this is what it is. I know what you're doing right now. Oh, he's on to you.
Speaker 2:I'm on to you, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm on to you. What's he doing? This is what you heard, right? No?
Speaker 3:I looked this up. You remember else telling you about it elder. Yeah, he looked this up. He said a couple of times before oh, oh my god see, bless you see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shut the fuck up, man. At least I'm gonna fucking do this shit I'm talking about so all right, that changes everything yeah, like I said, we'll make it a a YP reunion.
Speaker 2:Our friend also said you guys can be waiting for me stop jerking the mic, you can wait wait for me on the ground, our friend also said who's a firefighter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he said that like these people, like they think they need firefighters and there's buildings around fire, but they say that the truth that if you just leave them, in there wait till the fire goes out they'll just sit down somewhere. 75% or 80% of them just survive.
Speaker 2:Even though they went completely in the flame. But if they calm themselves and they sit in the corner in a very specific area.
Speaker 3:If you wait till it just goes out, nothing happens.
Speaker 2:Are you a?
Speaker 3:fucking crackhead.
Speaker 1:What no, you have a chance of dying, but it's 20% max you let it burn, that whole room is going to go up in fucking flames.
Speaker 7:Yeah, heat only rises, so it only goes to the top floor.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're stupid as hell. I know what you guys are doing. You better get the fuck out of here. So why don't you tell us what are we doing? You're using what Anatoly hates right now. What? What is this? This is what someone has told me this bullshit. And how's that making you feel I kind of want to slap you in the face?
Speaker 3:Oh that's very interesting, I know.
Speaker 1:I kind of want to slap you in the face.
Speaker 7:Good, that's good. I know we feel everything. Yeah, I kind of want to slap you in the face.
Speaker 2:Good. Do you want to give it a try on Russia now? Yeah, that's good. No, because you're going to do goddamn nothing about it. You're a punk bitch.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, totally. What would you do if I slapped you in the face right now?
Speaker 2:You ain't going to do a goddamn thing. Come find out, come find out.
Speaker 3:Oh, you want to live on the edge little pussy yeah.
Speaker 2:You want to live on the edge, little pussy, let's go you like the edge right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Do something about it.
Speaker 1:Stand up and do something this is not going to be an adrenaline rush. Do something, why not?
Speaker 3:Do something.
Speaker 1:Do you know what an adrenaline rush is? We're about to find out. Let's go slapping someone. That's not an adrenaline rush. Adrenaline rush is. It has to be a risk of death, I believe. What do you think this is going to be? That's just Worst comes to worst. I just get my ass beat. That's not an adrenaline rush.
Speaker 2:How do you know if he doesn't have rage in him?
Speaker 1:Anatoly's like a big teddy bear.
Speaker 2:How do you know he doesn't have rage? Yeah, why don't we find out If it?
Speaker 1:was Dennis, then I'd be a little nervous, really.
Speaker 2:Why don't we find out? Dennis is a paper tiger Dennis.
Speaker 1:Dennis got some anger man.
Speaker 2:Did you know that Tully actually took boxing training courses or no?
Speaker 1:You took boxing training courses. Yes, yes, he did.
Speaker 2:I have it on video. Did he get his ass whipped? Profession, I'm a professional. Did he get his ass punched no he didn't. Let's just say what I put on the body bag to try to take one of his punches. I didn't want to have anything to do with it, Did you little bitch? Oh yeah, when it comes to his body shots, yeah.
Speaker 3:What is going on with you, man? Totally. Why don't you stand up and do something?
Speaker 1:Get up, let's go, go, come over here, slap me Yo. That's not an adrenaline rush, why not? And I'm not getting fired over this shit, why not you?
Speaker 2:want to live on the edge. That's not living on the edge that's going to push you towards your dream. You punch him, we get into a fight, you get fired. Then you go and do whatever it is you want. That's not living on the edge, though.
Speaker 1:Because living on the edge to me is doing some crazy shit. It doesn't have to mean to get fired from your job.
Speaker 2:Why not, because that's not what the viral people do, no why the fuck do they get fired from their job? They use the money they make so they can do their own thing and go do stupid shit no. This is the stupid shit.
Speaker 1:Okay, I still work and do my shit. Listen, you can just assume the role of a pussy. No, and that's it. Okay, because I told you we'll make this a YP reunion. If I find someone to do this with me, everyone from YP could be sitting on the ground right over there waiting for me to come down, or they could be waiting for my body to fall. All right, I told you I'm willing to do this If we can find someone that will do this with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll do it. Something tells me that this is never going to happen. Well, let's find someone. Yeah, when do you think this is going to happen? Like give me a time frame.
Speaker 1:Are you fronting the 20 grand? I'm not fronting20,000. No, okay, then we got to wait until when I've saved that $20,000.
Speaker 2:Okay, sure, it's probably going to take a couple years. Okay, how many years?
Speaker 1:I don't know how long.
Speaker 2:You know how many months are in the year If I make my quota.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, let's say two years, two years.
Speaker 2:Two, three years a bet. How about we make a bet on it that I will do it. You won't do shit in two years.
Speaker 1:If I make the 20 grand, let's make a bet. If I save up the 20 grand, Well, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I'm not betting whether or not you're going to save 20 grand. I'm saying that you're not going to do shit even if you did save 20 grand right Now. You have to say I'm doing this in two years, let's bet on the two years. Let's do two to three years. Okay, let's do three years. Let's do three years. Let's do three years, Three years Okay, We'll do this. Okay, what's the bet? How about in three years? If you don't do this, I'll fire you if you're still here.
Speaker 1:Oh shit why you got to rest the job like that, If you're still here.
Speaker 2:What do? I'll give you a little push, I'll help you out. You'll fire me, I'll fire you and we can put something else on top of it, like what? I don't know. You like living on the edge, we can do something crazy.
Speaker 1:You really want to do this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, how about? You cut off your finger and I cut off my finger? If you win, we both cut off our finger. Well, if you win, I cut off your finger and I cut off my finger. If you win, we both cut off our finger. Well, if you win, I cut off my finger, and if you lose, you cut off your finger, not risking the job and risking the job as well.
Speaker 1:No, you can only have one. If I don't do it. I will cut off my finger. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7:We actually have a machine here that cuts off my finger. You know what I'm saying. We actually have a machine here that you know. Cuts off the finger. Why don't we put virus and nuts in the thing?
Speaker 1:and see who's faster, Whoa whoa, whoa whoa. You sick, fuck, wait, that's adrenaline.
Speaker 7:You put your finger in and you see who's faster. Oh they're slamming it, didn't you just say? You put your nuts in. Well, you can do your nuts. What is wrong with you? You can do whatever. That's adrenaline. That's pretty fucking serious. Who's faster, you or you?
Speaker 1:Damn. You want to do it. I got no problem with it. Let's go do it. Let's go do it. Which finger?
Speaker 7:Whichever one you want, doesn't matter which one, the middle one, which one do you don't need? Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. You wanna do adrenaline like one finger. You got 10. That's like 10% chance like maybe 20. Yeah, let's do it. Let's go do it. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you I'm to fucking do the plane thing, because I actually have a guy that's going to jump after me. Yeah, but you're not going to die, I'm nuts, I have a better chance of dying Jumping. Get my fucking pinky chopped up.
Speaker 7:So what we're?
Speaker 2:upgrading him. Listen, it's proven that the kid wants to live, wants to have a good life and not get hurt. I mean, this is a perfectly normal thing.
Speaker 7:Of course it's not upgrading. It's who he is. From the bullshitter of New Jersey to the pussy from New Jersey.
Speaker 1:No, because I'm still willing to do the playing thing. Yeah, but that was adrenaline. That's not adrenaline. Dude, that is like 90% chance I will lose the finger.
Speaker 7:Yeah, but.
Speaker 3:Wait, but what's the point?
Speaker 1:It's almost the same thing 80% of survival that I will be fine. So why would?
Speaker 3:you make millions of dollars off of 80% chance of survival.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's 100% chance of survival, but I'm still walking away without a finger, without a finger.
Speaker 7:Not even a full finger just a little tip.
Speaker 1:Not a little tip bro.
Speaker 7:Because you'll be moving and I'll be slamming.
Speaker 1:Can they sell it back on?
Speaker 2:I don't know any details. Why would you need to sell it back on who cares? It's like a war thing, you know? Look, harris, the truth of the matter is.
Speaker 1:I will jump out of the plane. There's a better chance of fucking walking away from it without a scratch.
Speaker 2:There probably is, but you throwing out numbers, random numbers, for no reason, it's just.
Speaker 1:When you get back, let's make some calls and talk to the guy.
Speaker 2:We can, we will. I'm down for that, no problem. Because I want to do it, no problem. You know why I'm doing it, for or no? Well, think about it. Why would I want to do this? Why would I want to pay for this sit down?
Speaker 1:To watch me go through with it, man.
Speaker 2:No, you got it completely wrong. I would like for you to go through the education process of an individual who cares about himself, cares about his family, cares about his reputation, cares about his job, cares about his license right, Not sell himself out for some $20,000 stunt. Right, Because what's $20,000 to a guy who makes money from this job? Right. It's like, why would I want to get fired to put my job or my license on the line for a stupid kid who just wants to do this one time?
Speaker 1:If it's a contract, he won't lose his job. He won't lose anything. Basically, I have to sign that I promise I will not do anything.
Speaker 2:Sure, but especially if there's some kind of risk of you losing your life, who would want to take that on? Like who? If there's some kind of risk of you losing your life, who would want to take that on? Like who, like a normal person?
Speaker 1:you would have to find a crazy talking about adrenaline. The junkies man.
Speaker 2:I do this for a living, every day no, yes, but after a while it's not an adrenaline for them anymore, just like anything else, like today, meaning you could go sky uh, what's his name? Diving into a pool of 20 30 feet. First time we jump, it's gonna be like oh it, into a pool of 20, 30 feet. First time we jump, it's going to be like oh, it's a little scary. Second time we jump, it's like what's scary? Third time, it's like it's whatever. Fourth time, fifth time, sixth time, it's like you don't think I can find someone that will do this.
Speaker 2:I think you will have a hard time finding somebody in their normal mind to do this. And when you find someone, if they're not in their normal mind, I'm not sure you're gonna go through it. You know what I'm saying, and are we trying to display that to you right there? That's why I told you, like yo, I don't give a fuck about your finger. You know what I'm saying. I'm an idiot too. You know what I mean. If you lose your finger, I'm not gonna cry about it because you're an idiot. You deserve to lose a finger. You probably deserve to lose your life if you're an idiot. That's how I actually feel. You know what I'm saying. So if you find somebody like that, I actually think that you have a self-preservation thing inside installed of you, just like I do, or totally a mic that we're trying to avoid pain. Okay, we're trying to avoid pain and receive pleasure. That's why.
Speaker 1:You know, it's no different than you jumping over that fire, than me jumping out of that plane.
Speaker 2:No, no, there is a very big difference. Okay, I'm not trying to go viral or not Plus. No, there's a very big difference. I'm not trying to go viral or not Plus. I've done that a thousand times. I'm a professional when it comes to something like that. You're not. You know what I'm saying. That's why I didn't want you to get hurt jumping over the fire. Because I generally don't want you to get hurt. But if you do want to get hurt, I'm okay with you getting hurt.
Speaker 1:I'm basically going with a professional doing this stupid shit.
Speaker 2:So then, how is that then going to be viral If everybody knows that this is Because I'm going without a parachute? Yeah, but it's not like the first time anybody ever did this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's not like Not at that, waiting until the last minute to be caught. I'm waiting, I want to. David Blaine did a whole bunch of stunts, crazy stunts like that I, I want to get someone to agree not to catch me until I get to like 9 and 800 feet.
Speaker 2:You know what it's a ploy? It's a ploy to be cool totally. That's all that is. It's not a ploy.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? It's a ploy to get rich. 800 feet by 800 feet, you hit the chute already, right Way before.
Speaker 1:So how would they catch you? There's no, he's flying and they're flying.
Speaker 3:He's going to hit the chute way before.
Speaker 2:No, he's going to be with him. This will start.
Speaker 1:You have a thing on your chute, On your arm right. It tells you your altitude. The thing will start beeping at like 900 feet. So that's when he will come and get me. Wait, 900? That's what it is. No, it starts beeping at 900 because it's telling you you are now approaching your minimums to pull that shoe.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you want to just do it at 800, 100, less Like nine.
Speaker 1:Pick me up at nine, okay, 100 less like 9.
Speaker 2:Pick me up at9. Okay, what's the? What is the regulation says? When do they have to actually pull the shoe like 1000, 900? I?
Speaker 1:don't know. It's like no regulation. Dude, I can get a fucking what is it called? So you don't even know this information. I can get a base jumper to fucking do it. He would be willing to do it. He got 100,000 jumps on a boat.
Speaker 3:You're not finding shit. You've never even been skydiving.
Speaker 1:So fucking what.
Speaker 3:So you don't know anything about this.
Speaker 1:It's even better.
Speaker 3:So you don't even know anything about this. It's even better. Yeah, like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the thing. I think that at the end of the day, it's like it's a ploy to catch up, to be cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not to be cool, it's to get rich man, rich, I'm willing to risk it to get the biscuit.
Speaker 2:That's not even guaranteed. If it was guaranteed, okay cool. If you're going to do this, you're going to get $10 million. That was okay. But then you're also shooting in the dark. Then you have to have a production team, then you have to have a whole team, then you have to have a whole thing to to be able to do it.
Speaker 1:Go pro on the guy that is jumping after me. Let him record it. Put a gopro on myself, let him. We'll both be recording. That's it. He already wears a gopro every time he jumps. You gotta remember that. I'll just throw a gopro on Record the whole thing. Boom, bam, bing. It's recorded, bro what?
Speaker 7:Sky divers fall at an average of 200 feet per second. Okay.
Speaker 1:What's the minimums? You understand what's the minimums.
Speaker 3:They pull it at about 3,500 feet above ground. Typically they're falling 200 feet per second. He wants somebody for $20,000 3,500 feet above ground. Typically they're falling 200 feet for a second. Yeah, he wants somebody for $20,000. Yeah, that's going to say that I'm going to grab this person, yes, and have what?
Speaker 7:four and a half seconds Because you have to understand. We're trying to go viral Once you pull it, it doesn't open instantly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, it's about 20 seconds. 20, 30 seconds, 20, 30 seconds, okay, okay, so hold on, let's see.
Speaker 3:If we're 900 feet away and we're falling 200 feet a second, that means that we have four seconds. We have four and a half seconds before and it takes 20 seconds for it to go out, so we'll go 15 feet below the ground. Okay, that's not bad. Hold up, let's pull below the ground. Okay, that's not bad.
Speaker 1:Hold up, let's pull up Travis here, okay.
Speaker 2:What Stupidity makes money?
Speaker 1:No Now there's Travis here. Travis is no parachute.
Speaker 3:It's like it's a joke. It takes skills to actually be like. You have to be a level of stupid. That's like enough to like, I guess, make it through ever since I saw Travis doing that right.
Speaker 7:I wanted to do it so the average uh parachute you're wrong about 20 seconds, obviously, because you don't really uh yapping over here. On average, the main chute should deploy in somewhere between 3 to 5 seconds. So you're still dead, so I still got time?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean well, just for the chute to deploy you somewhere between 3 to 5 seconds.
Speaker 7:So you're still dead, so I still got time. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:Well, just for the chute to deploy, you think it's going to instantly stop your speed.
Speaker 2:He was under the impression that it was 20 seconds. So, like Harris, we're going to give the proposition to the guy.
Speaker 3:We're going to tell him we're going to need you to grab me at 900 feet, no 900.
Speaker 2:900 feet and it'll take your shoe to take out in 20 seconds.
Speaker 1:Hold up.
Speaker 7:Let's look up the Guinness World Record right now it takes you about four to five minutes to reach the ground, when you open it at that height.
Speaker 1:Let's look at the Guinness World Record right now. Okay, Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah. What is the.
Speaker 3:Guinness.
Speaker 1:World Record, and this guy's going to do this for $20,000. Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2:It's easy money, know he might want to break a Guinness World Record right here. Oh yeah, he's very lucky to have you propose this to him. Where did he get this from? Yeah, I don't know. Are you concerned or no? Do you give a fuck about his finger or no? No, I don't give a fuck about his finger or his life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if he wanted to chop it off.
Speaker 2:If he wants to go and jump out of this fucking plane. He's under the impression that if it's five seconds you're dropping at 200 feet per second.
Speaker 3:You're going to have enough time to live.
Speaker 2:This is a guaranteed death.
Speaker 1:Look at this this dude right. His name was Luke Akinis. That's why I think, that's why, at the end of the day because proper research wasn't done, like nothing's going to come out of it, holds the record for the highest skydive without a parachute, jumping 25,000 feet from an airplane on July 30th 2016. The 42-year-old American skydiver landed safely in a 100-foot square foot net called Flytrap as part of the stunt titled Heaven Sent. Should I see if we can get someone to do that? Huh, you aim for the net.
Speaker 2:Would you do that too?
Speaker 3:And, like everyone we're listing, are like professionals at this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7:Or like Travis.
Speaker 3:Persaud is like world-renowned athlete, former paratrooper John.
Speaker 7:B Beam jumped from an 85-foot in order to clean the title of world's lowest parachute jump.
Speaker 3:You could break that record 85 feet, yeah, but he was probably not. No, with a parachute he could jump from like a 10-foot ledge with a parachute.
Speaker 1:And that could be the lowest parachute jump wouldn't be anything, dude.
Speaker 3:No, but I would break the record it wouldn't.
Speaker 1:The town is that there's people that have not been done it with the Guinness World Records. There's a town that allows you to base, jump off a bridge there Once a year.
Speaker 3:So yeah, yeah, I don't know like it's like.
Speaker 2:Okay, how about this paris? I don't think there's anything that you could say for us to like see it otherwise, man, but you wouldn't. Would you like to still try before I uh hit this?
Speaker 1:go, fuck yourself you already fucking hit it. No, I'm sorry, I will find someone and I will ask them what is the willing thing, you, the maximum time I can hold out before you catch me? You see this. You see this.
Speaker 2:Isn't that progress, that? But I still get to do it. Why?
Speaker 3:we're asking this question. No, because he realized.
Speaker 2:I think he felt that, like yo, this is the most ridiculous thing.
Speaker 1:I've ever heard. No, it's not ridiculous.
Speaker 7:I realize that, no, he's. I realized that, no, he did To confirm this no he just asked that.
Speaker 3:You see, like he's like I want to sit down with somebody and ask someone, but does he understand what happened? I don't think he understands what happened.
Speaker 2:Yes, he does, he will not admit it.
Speaker 1:Why not feet from someone?
Speaker 3:But why, if you already?
Speaker 1:have 900 feet Because you have to find someone that's willing to fucking do it.
Speaker 2:Where did you get this information from? It made it up. Hold on.
Speaker 1:You had to find someone correct.
Speaker 2:No sure, but where did you get this information that you might like? How did you extract this all information? Just now to make this conclusion, what did you?
Speaker 1:say it's every second, you drop 200 feet. Every second you drop 200 feet, you drop 200 feet, mm-hmm 200. Every second you drop 200 feet, mm-hmm Okay. So yeah, that would mean I have an ultimate goal If he's right next to me, right? How long does it take for the chute to open? It does not take five minutes.
Speaker 2:But it also doesn't stop instantly. It's not five minutes dude, it's five seconds.
Speaker 7:The guy who did. He could have been some kind of trooper. They can jump from planes that are so your body's not moving at a crazy speed. He jumped off a plane that was not high off the ground and he pulled it right away. Okay, from like 100 feet.
Speaker 2:So it's the drag from the chute. Yeah, that's holding it.
Speaker 7:Okay, yeah, he wasn't flying 125 to 200 miles an hour. Like this fine specimen would be Never skydiving before ever. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hold up? No, but you see, that alone, that conversation.
Speaker 3:You asked him a question. He never answered.
Speaker 2:I don't think the arrogance or the pride would allow it to answer the question. You can't. You can't succumb to like I'm now an idiot and now I'm changing up my tune a little bit.
Speaker 1:You can't say that to like I'm now an idiot and now I'm changing up my tune.
Speaker 3:A little bit. You can't say that, okay, hold on.
Speaker 1:Someone is asking on here minimum altitude required to pull a parachute. He's asking on a skydiving thing or forum. He asked does anyone know what the minimum altitude to pull the BRS parachute is? I've heard 500, but I called Flight Design USA to confirm. They've told me they weren't sure to call BRS. It's hard to say what the minimum is because there are so many factors such as speed and altitude. At one time I had an email that suggested there could be benefits to pulling the chute as low as 165 feet. Benefits of what? If something happens below 500 feet, I think I need the chute I'm going to pull the handle regardless of the altitude. So people are saying you can survive right now at 500 feet.
Speaker 7:That's not fun. You gotta go lower, maybe 100.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, so then you're not even breaking a record.
Speaker 1:Someone said there was a successful BRS deployment in Morocco at 60 feet.
Speaker 3:Okay. So 900 wouldn't get you anywhere During a botched go around. So 900 wouldn't get you anywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people have already done this.
Speaker 7:Well, there was a guy who survived a fall, a fall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, he had his fame, probably for a little bit, so maybe Paris.
Speaker 7:Yeah, the idea is, the idea is great. Yeah, you probably get about six views from the people.
Speaker 1:You know nothing on $40 there have been saves as low as $100, depending on the weight.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, man, I really think it's just like talking out of your ass, kind of like trying to be cool.
Speaker 1:Trying to be cool, Trying to like yeah, he wants to be a cowboy.
Speaker 2:Someone said what height do you deploy your chute it probably works for people Like you know the circles that he probably hangs out with.
Speaker 3:That would be crazy. Someone said what height do you set? You're so brave, yeah, so brave.
Speaker 2:As soon as it comes in here, it's like what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Someone said what height do you set your altimeters to deploy your main chute when using dual deploy or whatever? I normally go for 800 feet. That's what someone said.
Speaker 3:She didn't even do anything. You want to break a world record and go viral by going 100 past what normal people do.
Speaker 7:Yeah, sounds gay, sounds mad gay.
Speaker 2:You might as well go for 80., 79. See if you can find somebody for that.
Speaker 1:So let's do this, baby 900 feet. You got a deal About what we we're gonna do it. I already said 900 feet, and we're gonna see if we can find this guy that's willing to do this shit, a trainer, someone that's got years of experience. See if we can find someone okay.
Speaker 2:Well, we're gonna google some. I promise you, that's my word we're gonna google and we're gonna talk to some skydivers to see what they say. Sure, let us try to dissect this phenomenon that you're suffering from.
Speaker 1:I'm probably gonna need two, because that's what normal people do normal people.
Speaker 2:What do you mean normal people? You're an abnormal person. You wanna do an abnormal thing and go viral? What? What do you mean normal people? But there's a? You're an abnormal person. You want to do an abnormal thing and go viral. What the fuck? You mean these?
Speaker 1:guys are supposedly to be safe. To be successful in this success what do you mean successful? One has to go on your back and one in the front. One has to hold your hands forward until the guy in the front, under your back, pulls the shoe this is the gayest shit I've ever heard you. You want to be the gayest.
Speaker 2:You want to be fucking two guys, two cops.
Speaker 1:That's not how it works, dude. This guy is basically going to save your life. Save your life If he's successful. Yeah, let's do it, baby Travis Pastrana, if you're fucking listening you're going to listen.
Speaker 7:I'll call you out.
Speaker 1:I'm breaking your fucking record.
Speaker 7:I think Travis Pastrana died.
Speaker 1:No, he's well alive, man, he's alive.
Speaker 7:He was racing NASCAR a couple years ago. Ken Block yeah, that's a different guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Ken Block died in a snowmobile accident. Yeah, Rest in peace to the homie Travis Pastrana. I'm going to do fucking lower than you, motherfucker.
Speaker 2:So, whoever put him on this or whatever the influence was in the first place, it did what it has to do. It has to live up until it doesn't, and knowledge has to be gotten in order to be like okay, cool, I did this idea. So the interesting part is how long does this kind of stuff live and what purpose does?
Speaker 2:it serve, without divine intervention or with, and I'm going to tell you right now, and it does serve a purpose, Even though you look at it as like yo. This is so stupid, Like he asks certain questions now he wants to do more research, and upon doing the research is when you finally finally remove the myths of what you fucking conjured yourself into or believed into.
Speaker 1:So we're going to ask these guys.
Speaker 7:The thing is a lot of. It is just blind stupidity, and once you educate yourself you cannot rely on it. You cannot rely on it. Here the fears have free range to roam.
Speaker 3:But it's also a thing of like you could just say crazy, reckless things and statements right, because they never happen. I'm gonna go through with this, but there's like you could just like be cool, kind of like. I think that's what he's been doing for a long time like if I just say, like yo one day gonna wrestle a tiger with no intervention, just one in the wild to travel to Africa, I'd do it by myself and I'm just going to go mano to mano with it.
Speaker 7:Yeah, why not you got?
Speaker 1:it all wrong Because there's one way. I know I'm going to go through with it. I'm going to get super fucked stone before I do this. Oh nice. Here we go. It's going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know Like yeah, what?
Speaker 1:You saw how I am stoned man yeah, I can do whatever the fuck I want.
Speaker 7:You didn't do anything, absolutely. You didn't even play cornhole or do much of a pussy.
Speaker 1:I wasn't stoned at that point you couldn't even talk. That's the whole point. I'm fucking laid back. I can really do whatever the fuck I want to do.
Speaker 2:Holy shit. So then, what do you uncover here? Self-esteem you have to go to self-esteem yeah, probably Values, no. Self-esteem, mike yeah, not values what values?
Speaker 7:Money. He values money. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He needs the self-esteem like yeah, not values what values money he values.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no, no, no, no, no. He needs the self-esteem approval assurance. Like I can do this, if I watch me, I'll prove everybody wrong you see, maybe he'll get his own show like jackass started in a series. Do you remember that? Yeah, it was the stupidest fucking series. Yeah, but I ended up being blown into this full blown shit. I remember this series. I just started watching their series again. It was one season and they did it homemade. They were doing the stupidest shit. I don't know if you remember watching it. Their series.
Speaker 1:They were putting each other in fucking shopping carts and going into fucking bushes. That's how Jackass started, right? Maybe I can start my own thing.
Speaker 2:Maybe you should, but you know the twenty thousand dollars is a stretch. Why don't you do something small, like what? Like the shopping cart? It's already been done, okay. Well, do like something else, like a shopping bag the fuck is wrong with you. We put you in the shopping bag and drop you off of somewhere, and then you're like oh look, I'm with groceries. No. No. So this is a creative outlet. This is everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it's just like a.
Speaker 2:No, but to you it looks like that. It looks like that to you, man it's never gonna happen well, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:What's never gonna happen. All this bullshit you've been spewing, I want to do it. I'm going to get high, smoke my Mary Jane and do what wink it. I'm not gonna be able. I'm gonna be so fucking stoned. I'm not gonna be be able. I'm going to be so fucking stoned I'm not going to be able to think. I'm just going to go right out the fucking door and then hopefully the guy does what he does. If not, I'll die very happy. I'll be fucking stoned off my ass, hallelujah.
Speaker 7:What yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:I can't wait, eldar, you bring the weed. You got it, how about?
Speaker 2:you go skydiving and we'll get you stoned as fuck. And you just go skydiving and you let us know how the experience goes, just regular stuff. How about we do that? How about we start with that Like a first step For what? Just to see whether or not the experience is the experience he's looking for.
Speaker 3:He wants to get stoned out of his mind and go skydiving? No, but he's already confident that this is it, this is going to be the best time of life, and if you die, you die.
Speaker 2:I mean like you don't want to put this cherry on the regular shit.
Speaker 3:Why would you do progression or testings?
Speaker 7:You don't want that right.
Speaker 3:What's the point? That's what I'm saying. What's the point? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's useless.
Speaker 2:Listen, then you have to. You want to start?
Speaker 1:I've got to find a guy that can do it You're talking about. Why don't you try smaller stuff? There's nothing that's going to get them as much viewership as what we're talking about, right? Okay, the whole selling point is never gone skydiving in my life. Should we start?
Speaker 2:putting away some money from your paycheck just to start saving the $20,000 is what you think. I'll save it myself, you will, yeah, okay. Should I follow up on you every month to see how long it's going to take? As you said, three years, yeah, so okay.
Speaker 1:Worst comes to worst. Get good credit, take out a little loan. Hopefully it makes it back.
Speaker 2:No, it's a good investment.
Speaker 1:And if I do take out a loan and I die? Well, guess what are they gonna?
Speaker 7:get the money back exactly, bro, yeah, but I can fix your credit in two weeks, man. Yeah, how I can show credit card for?
Speaker 1:20k. I got a 20, I got a credit card right here how much? Oh wait a second yeah, you have good credit. You know my credit dropped to 690. No problem, mike can get 20K for you, right?
Speaker 2:now From who? Don't worry, don't worry about it, we got you, you ready to do this?
Speaker 7:Let's do it, okay, oh, another one comes back. Yeah. When.
Speaker 1:I come back let willing to fucking do this Okay.
Speaker 7:I'm pretty sure there's somebody who is a skydiving certified professional with thousands of jumps let's just say thousands who also has the same mentality as you, Exactly, yeah.
Speaker 1:You got to think these guys have to have some kind of balls on'll find an easy way to do this. Let's do it, baby. I'm fucking pumped, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 3:What's the problem? I'm so excited you guys can wait at the bottom.
Speaker 1:Everything's going to be fine. We'll come up with a landing zone, we'll come up with the easiest and safest way to do this, and we'll see if I actually go through with it.
Speaker 2:Well, don't say the safest on the air, because everybody's looking for you to do something crazy here.
Speaker 1:I am doing something crazy you talk about. Without a parachute, I'm going to be twirling around in the air and relying on some guy to actually successfully catch you. Yes, that is crazy in its own self. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7:I do. We could do something pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah, I like it All right.
Speaker 1:Get a whole YP reunion, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, no problem. Watch Lil' Schuster fucking jump out of a fucking plane. Yeah, without a shoe.
Speaker 6:See if Successful, and we're gonna record the whole thing. Okay, get the GoPros the whole nine yards, not bad.
Speaker 2:The good thing about recording stuff like this is because then you have your own yes, you have receipts, okay, and the thing is like you have receipts. When I have receipts a person like me, because I'm so bad at this kind of stuff memories and stuff we can always come back and reference it and I'm gonna hold you to it. Oh, yeah, right, uh you, I won't live this down.
Speaker 1:I'm very bad and when I beat it. When it comes to this, when I beat it, we're gonna tell everyone where to go watch the video. Absolutely, I'll put a thousand dollars in marketing. Help us edit 100 100.
Speaker 2:This is where the idea was born. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:And we're going to call it Dumbass, Dumbass. It's a perfect name Dumbass.
Speaker 7:Where'd you come up with such a creative name, dumbass?
Speaker 1:Was Dumbass creating this creative name or no, I'm Dumbass and this is what we fucking do, motherfucker. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm going to say.
Speaker 2:We're going to do this. Yeah, so is this the effect of an influencer? Is this what Tony Pastrana did, Like he created?
Speaker 1:this His name is Travis Pastrana.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm not sure if he's the one that yeah he did say or is this just his interpretation. No, no, I don't think this has anything to do with him. Well, no, but he should be, referencing it. No, I don't think it's.
Speaker 7:I think it's part of it. No, you don't think so. No, it's rich money. No, but these people are not coming up with anything new, totally no.
Speaker 3:No, I mean like to me have to do with Travis Pastrana. Well, we're talking about influencers, right yeah, but Travis Pastrana is not the one that influenced him to do this. Where'd you come up with this idea, Harris?
Speaker 1:Originally it was Travis, but I'm trying to be the next Jackass, See.
Speaker 7:So okay, jackass, it's Jackass, and Travis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's no, but it dead or fucking strung out.
Speaker 1:No, okay, there's only one guy strung out right now.
Speaker 2:And the other guys are fucking dead too. I think two of them are dead.
Speaker 1:One guy's dead, dunn's dead, he died. Bam Bam is dead. Right, bam Bam is not dead. Who's dead?
Speaker 3:Bam Margeria right.
Speaker 1:Bam Margeria's alive. Bam Margeria's like an alcoholic right now.
Speaker 3:So who's the one that died?
Speaker 1:Dunn his best friend, Dunn, his best friend.
Speaker 2:He got. Bam went downhill after Dunn died.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bam went downhill after Dunn died. Yeah, that was the last straw. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Okay, cool, I'm glad you know your history. This is where he came from. Dunn was in his car with a friend who was a sailor. He was drunk, driving his Porsche at 100 miles an hour and crashed into a bridge.
Speaker 3:There you go. No, but the idea to do this is from what? It's, from the desire for what? Money, money, yeah, so it has nothing to do with these influencers.
Speaker 2:Well, the influencers are the co-signers of the acts.
Speaker 3:No, like hey, look, they did it, I'll do the same thing. Yeah, but if you take money out of this, okay, what if we gave him 10?
Speaker 2:million dollars and say we don't do nothing. He doesn't. He doesn't do any of this stuff. Of course not paris. Huh, let's just say that somebody offered you to 10 million dollars. You will never do anything that's adrenaline related. Uh, ever in your life would you take it, damn 10 million? Of course he would, in a heartbeat never no skydiving.
Speaker 1:No chopping your fingers. Yes, no, joke, you would take it. This is all about money, baby, I'm looking to get rich that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It has nothing to do with these guys but I love adrenaline rush, but I can I?
Speaker 1:can regular skydive correct? No, no, then no.
Speaker 2:I can't have fun, nothing that raises your blood pressure above 150.
Speaker 1:I can't have something that will bring me a high of adrenaline.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's it.
Speaker 1:I can't go 100 miles an hour on a motorcycle.
Speaker 3:I can't no. But you have $10 million cash. Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:Because then what the fuck am I going to do with the 10 mil? I can't buy a car and go 100 miles an hour on the fucking highway. Invest it no.
Speaker 7:There you go.
Speaker 3:No, that's spending the money, bro. I don't believe it.
Speaker 1:What the fuck am I going to spend the money on? I want to have a little fun here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he wants to have fun. No.
Speaker 1:I can't buy fucking Lamborghinis. Oh sorry, you can only go 65 on the fucking highway. What the fuck?
Speaker 2:It supersedes it, adrenaline supersedes the.
Speaker 3:I can't picture someone that loves adrenaline this kind of way and goes and asks for an office job.
Speaker 1:See Look at this guy, what are we doing here?
Speaker 3:Hot air balloon? No parachute.
Speaker 1:See, look at this guy. What are we doing here? Hot air balloon no parachute. Yeah, he's taking it off, I know.
Speaker 3:Why don't we just send him yeah? Cover the cost of learning to skydive and getting certified, and that's it. And then just he can do that. People will pay him to do that, yeah.
Speaker 1:See, he has his professional skydivers with him.
Speaker 3:Why don't we do that at our stand?
Speaker 2:Well, do you want to pay for that? What Do you want?
Speaker 3:to pay for that. Well, I mean, I think we should just cover the cost for just to get certified. And then we'll do what, and then he'll work at a skydive certified it takes like 8 jumps.
Speaker 1:How many 8 jumps to become certified?
Speaker 2:How much does that cost?
Speaker 1:No, look at this, this is simple. This is simple shit.
Speaker 2:Hey, harris Tully has a what's his name? A proposition for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because then I feel like we're just Holding him back and wasting him time. Hey Harris, have a seat.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to get rich fucking just doing that shit. No, he has a proposition. You're not going to get rich being a skydiving instructor.
Speaker 3:No, you're not going to get rich, but you're going to make like okay money like here. No, you're not. You're going to make the same amount of money as here, six figures Eventually.
Speaker 1:You. No, it's not gonna happen no skydivers, don't make six feet they don't make six feet how much do they make?
Speaker 2:how do you know? Okay, google. How much do skydivers instructors make?
Speaker 5:on the website salarycom. They say the average skydiving instructor's salary in new jersey is $57,868 as of June 27, 2024.
Speaker 1:So not even come close by make the commission here $57,967 $63,807. Okay, Google. How much does a skydiving instructor make in Miami, Florida?
Speaker 5:Sorry, I didn't understand, but I found something similar. Okay, google, I want to know how much do skydiving instructors?
Speaker 2:How much does skydivers in Miami make? Sorry, I didn't understand. Why'd you ask for Miami? That's where you want to live.
Speaker 1:You're asking in New Jersey, right? Uh-huh, that means you can only do it for a certain amount of seasons. So, you're doing it. What summer?
Speaker 2:spring. That's a very good point, I'm going to have to give myself a fucking yeah, then goddamn I.
Speaker 1:Summer fall, you know? Yeah, You're getting half the year.
Speaker 7:Okay.
Speaker 2:You're getting a quarter of the year. Really, you're right, you're right. And then if it were to do the math, that the skydiver in New Jersey makes $50,000. $57,000? That's with good weather Times four.
Speaker 1:But you got to think how much does a new guy just walking off actually make?
Speaker 7:What are you making? Six figures as a new guy.
Speaker 1:No, but I'd be making probably less than here. You're probably looking at $25,000. Because you got to understand, right, it depends on weather. You're not going in the rain, you're not going in a storm, you know? Listen, I don't mind getting certified. Become a skydiver, right?
Speaker 3:No, but I'm saying if you enjoy that because it's also more than just money, right, Because you're going to be doing something that you enjoy.
Speaker 1:And that you have fun doing Hold on, hold on. You think all skydivers do this for a living.
Speaker 7:Harris, your math was actually wrong. You were way off. What Miami? They make a lot more. How much do they make?
Speaker 1:45. That's it. Oh my God, how do you live in Miami on 45 grand a year?
Speaker 3:No, but I'm saying, is that like, like, if he enjoys this, yeah, and he has a thrill, yeah, thrill of it, right? Yeah? I mean like you do this for part of the year and then, and then you get another job to do something else. It's also adrenaline induced.
Speaker 1:You do it on the fucking weekend. Oh, there you go.
Speaker 3:Even better, monday through Friday you can get another job that can cover to get to 100K right. That's also something that's I'd be working here. No. For what?
Speaker 1:I'm going to continue to work here. I don't know what you're trying to get me to do. Change my career, no, but I'm saying well, why though I can do skydiving for fun if I want to?
Speaker 3:While my day's off. What the hell are you talking about? Yeah, but why wouldn't you want to get paid doing it?
Speaker 1:Why would I? Because it's an adrenaline.
Speaker 3:You sit at a boring desk, make calls all day. It's not fun.
Speaker 1:And then on the weekends you go, you fucking jump out of a plane.
Speaker 3:There's your fucking adrenaline. What the?
Speaker 1:fuck, are you talking about?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you can just do that during the week as well, I knew several guys that did this.
Speaker 1:I met my friend that was doing the Wall Street shit. This is exactly what they did, bro. They were all adrenaline junkies, but they had the money to afford to keep buying new parachutes, to continue to fucking do this.
Speaker 7:You have to pay a rigger to fucking do this? Would you be down if we paid for your flight right now and drop you off somewhere in the middle of Mexico in cartel territory? Is that enough adrenaline?
Speaker 1:You're missing the whole fucking point.
Speaker 7:He's an idiot. It's a good adrenaline.
Speaker 1:I don't think he wants to die Death sentence Because, guess what? The first thing they'll do is they'll capture you. They'll try to ransom you all for some money. When they find out. You ain't got nobody to pay the money. That's it you're dead. You're beheaded.
Speaker 7:But that's a risk of getting out. No, it's adrenaline Surviving.
Speaker 1:My white ass does not have a chance to survive.
Speaker 7:Yeah, but what's in your first class though?
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck about first class.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but if he enjoys it, I'm saying that why not do adrenaline shit throughout the week? He's not getting it. Explain it to him.
Speaker 2:He's mad about something.
Speaker 1:Okay, first of all, A lot of people that are fucking certified Get this through your head. Do not do this every week. They do it on the weekends. They work normal fucking jobs and then, to get their fix on the weekend, they go out, they make a trip of it with friends that are also certified and they all jump out of a fucking plane.
Speaker 3:Sure, no problem. I'm saying that if you did that on the weekends, why don't you do something during the week? That is also adrenaline induced, so you could have more fun? That's what I'm not understanding.
Speaker 1:It's not about fucking fun during the week it's about. Why do you have to suffer during the week? You need to make money, dude you can't make money doing adrenaline. That's what I'm saying. If the videos go viral, I will release one every fucking week on the weekend.
Speaker 3:What about bull riding during the week?
Speaker 1:You still have to get to the point where you can make money.
Speaker 3:What's that take?
Speaker 1:You need to start winning your fucking shit, dude. You don't get money for just riding the bull for fucking four seconds. Five seconds, dude. Do you know?
Speaker 3:what I'm saying out there. He doesn't get it.
Speaker 2:No, I think that you're not providing an honest path to what he's trying to accomplish.
Speaker 3:Is there an adrenaline-based Monday through Friday job?
Speaker 2:No, no, I personally think that adrenaline runs out, bro. I don't think there's a thing that gives you adrenaline consistently. No, I'm not saying that it actually will, I'm just saying adrenaline type things.
Speaker 1:Look at Tom. I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I don't think there's a thing that exists like that At all.
Speaker 3:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:That doesn't exist. What? There's no job that gives you consistent adrenaline.
Speaker 1:Look at Tom. Look at Tom Cruise bro. It gives you consistent adrenaline. Look at Tom. Look at Tom Cruise bro. It gives you adrenaline for a week bro.
Speaker 3:No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that it actually will. I'm saying that, like, why not do more living on the edge shit?
Speaker 2:every single day, because the edge is always pushed.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but this is like as far as possible from living on the edge right.
Speaker 2:This is complete bullshit. What he's talking about. It doesn't exist and it will never be satisfying. Okay, first of all, People literally are junkies, bro for it. Look at Tom. And that's why it's always Unless you're sponsored by, like Red Bull yeah, it's not and you're doing like base jumping and stuff like that like Red Bull. And you're doing like base jumping and stuff like that. You're never making any kind of money, bro, You're just doing it as a hobby. You can go viral.
Speaker 1:That's it. You can go viral.
Speaker 2:You know how else can you push a boundary? Okay, skydiving. Okay, then base jumping and all this other crap, Sure, but like yeah, unless you're like part of a team Sky right here, nigeria, shit Right, this guy his name is You're not making money.
Speaker 1:He skydived without a parachute. Yeah, his video has 43 million views. Nobody gives a fuck. Right, yeah, right, this guy travels around the world skydiving His views have millions of views. Okay, and this is what affords his skydiving. His videos is what he can afford to continue doing this around the world. Actually, it's a girl. Her name is by Angel.
Speaker 2:If you can solve their money problem, then yeah. Otherwise you're not going to be able to sign them off of that. You can pay them, but then it'll be just like a volunteering thing with a stipend. Then they'll do it, otherwise there's no, I don't think they get paid for it or sustain any level of adrenaline, unless they're doing a different act every single time If you're doing. Youtube Like Rob Durdeck or something like that.
Speaker 1:If you're doing that's how it starts. You Like Rob Durdeck or something like that. That's how it starts. You need to build your brand and then you need to figure out what's next from here. All you need is the one video to basically make your channel. You have people that subscribe to it, and then you figure out what is next. You ask people what do you want me to do next? Then you choose something someone suggests.
Speaker 2:So you're just a slave to the next.
Speaker 3:Then you choose something someone suggests so you're just a slave to the society. So just out of curiosity, and it needs to have something.
Speaker 1:That's a hypothetical scenario.
Speaker 3:Just out of curiosity, let's say you had to sign a contract today that, to continue working here, you're never allowed to jump out of a plane in your life. Eldar, is that what's going?
Speaker 1:on here.
Speaker 2:No, it's hypothetical. I would love for you to jump out of a plane, Harris.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's the question? I'm jerking the mic.
Speaker 3:Would you sign the contract? Yeah, I didn't goddamn much. Would you sign the contract and continue working, or would you leave?
Speaker 1:I'd probably leave, because you're basically dictating my what I can and can't do in my life, on my off duty, on my off time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah that's that's fucked up where's my?
Speaker 2:freedom of of expression, yeah, I don't even know how that's fucking legal yeah, I agree with you okay yeah that's fair no that's basically
Speaker 1:like oh, you know you, that's basically. I've heard of contracts like that. Like you know, you can't do this, you can't do anything dangerous, you can't ride a fucking motorcycle. Who? The fuck, are you on my off time? To tell me I can't do something that I want to do. If I'm on the clock, sure I can't do it. Who the fuck are you to tell me what I can and can't do off the clock?
Speaker 3:No, I was just curious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, the contracts are bullshit. Yeah, no, no. I understand why the employers want to do that, Because if they get hurt then sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you have a problem with the phenomenon, I don't have a problem with the phenomenon at all.
Speaker 3:No, I mean, I don't care about the phenomenon. Oh, you don't care. No, I'm actually on your side. I don't care. Okay, I'm just curious to understand the mindset. Did you understand it? I mean, I'm slowly understanding it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think based on what you're working with. It's super necessary, so we're gonna.
Speaker 1:I mean it's very limited.
Speaker 3:I want to let everyone know out there.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk with some professional skydivers yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you see, like he's leaning towards that, like you know what I mean, like he's not sticking onto the ignorance. You know what I mean, like why, you know and like we're gonna come up with and that's his path to like the most educated path that you can take, we're gonna come up with a plan.
Speaker 1:They're most likely gonna have ems waiting on the fucking ground you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:that's how he levels up this is it you have a problem with that a problem with what like him leveling up this way? No, I don't I don't care what do you mean by leveling up?
Speaker 2:like you're an idiot in our eyes? Yeah, you know what I mean, but like you're a necessary idiot, like this is super necessary for you yes, you know what I mean. Like we don't think that necessarily you can level up without this stuff that you're talking about, because your attachments are so strong towards this stuff that, like there's no reason that can come in between to teach you or make you feel otherwise. Therefore, it is super necessary for you to go through this process in order to learn. What I'm saying is that, after you learn, after you did level up, there's no chances this is happening. That's good, which which, obviously, and I'm happy- with.
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Speaker 7:He doesn't live on earth. It's like an ego play to me, that's what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying you don't think I'm gonna do this. Harris, like I don't think you understand that, like we don't give a fuck no, but you're basically saying it's an ego play, but you don't think I'm gonna do this no, no, but Harris, we really don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:I no, but you're basically saying it's an ego play, but you don't think I'm going to do it? No, no, but Harris, we really don't give a fuck. I know, you don't. You know what I'm saying, but there's a good To us. You're not like a unique entity, you are disposable, idiot.
Speaker 7:It's like the people they send to war. Yeah, that go on the battlefield. Yeah, they're like yo. I'm patriotic, I love my country. Religious bodies with no brains that's it, that's you.
Speaker 1:You realize what you're basically saying. By that right, You're disrespecting every veteran out there.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2:What are?
Speaker 1:they going to do about it. This is the truth. Damn bro, you're about to get canceled before you even fucking started. Dude, do you think I give a fuck?
Speaker 5:Fucking Spotify is going to kick your shit off, do you think I?
Speaker 1:give a fuck. How are you going to disrespect veterans right?
Speaker 2:How is he?
Speaker 1:disrespecting the veterans, bro. He's basically saying they ain't got no brains, only fucking buckets.
Speaker 2:No, he's saying that the people that are on the front lines a lot of the times are not really thinking.
Speaker 1:Yes, they are. They're following their fucking dream. Exactly. Their dream? Okay, yes, they are. They're following their fucking dream, exactly their dream. Okay. From when they were little kids that they're gonna pick up, I used to have that dream until they told me no, you're too fucking crazy to fucking hold a gun and fucking go out there and serve.
Speaker 2:I think you're perfect for military. I thought so too. I said dude, I'm crazy.
Speaker 1:I said who the hell is not crazy?
Speaker 2:you're not in shape for military. Definitely I wouldn't want you to be on the front lines because you would lose out of the 100 times you try, you would lose 100 times there's no doubt about it you're not prepared you will lose that weight and there's pre things that go up to it.
Speaker 1:The recruiting stations have basically pre things that help you lose the weight to get where you need to meet to sign that contract.
Speaker 2:I think this is like a perfect example of like why society thrives and this is the way it has to be, and like these are the people that have to, kind of like, hold it down. Yeah, what's wrong with that? No, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1:You have you know. Let people live their lives, Let them do what they want to do.
Speaker 2:I agree with this, Harris. I agree with this. I want you to jump off from the buildings and parachutes and all this other crap and go to the military. I 100% support this.
Speaker 1:I can't do the military. I 100% support this. The only way I can do it is if I lied, if I lied, that's prison time.
Speaker 7:I heard Ukraine and Russia are taking.
Speaker 1:No, I actually called about that, the Ukrainian embassy, which they said to do here in America.
Speaker 2:I'll send you to Ukraine right now. Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1:They said only military experienced veterans, can They'll take anybody right now. Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:They said only military experienced veterans can go in there. They'll take anybody right now. They'll take anybody right now. They need bodies. If you want to go, we'll send you, I'll cover the flight. You'll cover the flight yeah. Yeah, of course you will. I'll buy him the best rifle that he wants to buy. Yeah, whatever rifle you want, I want two, you want two, no problem.
Speaker 1:No problem, yeah, alright, no problem, yeah, I gotta find a way to fucking yeah, we'll figure it out. I'll fucking fight over there. I wanted to fight over there.
Speaker 2:You researched all this stuff, bro.
Speaker 1:I did.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:They said they were only accepting people with military experience for their foreign legion.
Speaker 2:Well, what does that mean? You have to go to a training school or a marksman school.
Speaker 1:The foreign legion is basically a military unit with former military personnel from every country. You got people from the UK, you got people from America. You got all these veterans that basically they have experience and they say, okay, congratulations, you have experience, here's your unit, you're going to go out there, you're going to do this If you really want to do this this is one of those things where, again, I totally was saying you should pursue that.
Speaker 2:If you can go to marksman school or something like that with experience, you come over there like, listen, I'm a really good sniper. Let's just say, right, and I have these guns and I'm ready to go. I'm pretty sure that they're going to be like all right, cool, come.
Speaker 1:But you got to get the guns over there. How are you going to get the guns?
Speaker 7:We'll buy them for you over there we have elections, yeah sure you do, there you go.
Speaker 2:I know some people over there.
Speaker 7:What Russia? No, ukraine, russia, wherever you want to go, I know people, I'm not fucking.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't fight on the Russian side. Okay, so I know people in.
Speaker 2:Ukraine yeah, he knows people in Ukraine.
Speaker 7:Powerful people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it says here people can go fight in Ukraine, including foreign citizens and Ukrainian citizens. You just have to be between 18 and 60.
Speaker 1:What does it require for Foreign Legion?
Speaker 3:For Foreign Legion, not have a criminal record. That's like any crimes after 21. You're good.
Speaker 2:I'll buy you the two guns you want.
Speaker 3:I'll sponsor you. I have an identity document.
Speaker 1:What does that mean?
Speaker 3:Passport. It's not mandatory to have any military experience.
Speaker 1:You have to be able to download and fill out a.
Speaker 3:Legion form.
Speaker 2:Listen, we can fulfill that dream for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and just fill out applications. Yeah, right here. Int underscore Legion uapostmilgov.
Speaker 2:That's probably like as close to the edge as you can get.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Do they provide the training? Yeah yeah, this legion right here provides the training. Oh wow.
Speaker 1:Who do I call you, contact the Ukrainian embassy. What do you do? And you actually get paid. What, how much you get?
Speaker 3:You get your expenses covered in between. You get your expenses covered on top of it between 500 and 3200 euros a month.
Speaker 1:Wow, 500,. That's it On top of your expenses covered.
Speaker 3:That's it.
Speaker 1:Our fucking military 3200.
Speaker 2:To 3200 depends how good you are, good Motherfucker.
Speaker 1:You're going to have a fucking launcher dude, A private Coming right out of fucking training here in the United States. It's making fucking $2,500 a month.
Speaker 2:Listen, you're trying to be in some action. Dude who gives a fuck about money, man, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I still want to get fucking paid. You will $500 a month ain't worth shit.
Speaker 2:The better you are, the more you get paid and all your expenses.
Speaker 1:You survive a year, then you get raised to the price. You survive another year. Oh, here's more money. That's how it's ranked on payment.
Speaker 2:Again another proposition.
Speaker 1:That's a good opportunity.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's see what we got to do. Let's do some more research on that.
Speaker 1:Let's get me a passport, I'm willing to fucking fight. That's it. When Ukraine happened, I wanted to join. I looked it up, I looked on Ukrainian. But back then, when it was first starting out, they wanted military personnel. Yeah, they wanted, and that's why all the former US veterans were going over there.
Speaker 2:You okay with this? You wouldn't shut it up, man, you would not shed a tear.
Speaker 3:I mean, be honest, if this is what he wants, not like, you'll be happy for him. If this is what he wants, of course.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool, mike, no absolutely yeah, I'll be happy for you too.
Speaker 1:Damn if I died, nobody would shed a tear. No, damn, that's fine. No, but what do you mean? For what?
Speaker 2:you die with honor why, would you shed a tear when people die with honor? This is like we're gonna pour ourselves whiskey or a nice tequila and we're gonna fucking rejoice that he died for what he wanted to do.
Speaker 1:I'll go over there. I'll go over there.
Speaker 2:I hope so. I hope when push comes to shove, you actually go, because I have receipts now.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I'll wait till you get back. I'll make the calls. Alright, cool.
Speaker 2:Don't wait for me to come back, just start making calls on Monday.
Speaker 7:Yeah, on Monday. Okay, on Monday, I'll start making calls.
Speaker 2:Do the interviews and stuff like that. Yeah, 100%. What's the issue? You know what I mean.
Speaker 7:I can go.
Speaker 1:Alright, I'll pack my bag and I'll fucking go.
Speaker 2:They just gotta tell me what to do you wanna call your mom right now and tell her about your decision.
Speaker 1:I told my mom how I was thinking about doing it and she said listen, I can't stop you.
Speaker 1:When I first talked, about this a while back I was like mom, I wanna go to Ukraine and she goes. Well, I can't stop you. You're a fucking adult. She, she goes. All I can do is tell you don't do it. She goes. You're going to do what you want. I know this. She goes. I know you always wanted to join the military. She goes. Why don't you wait until our country goes to fucking war and then actually fight for your own country? I said, well, these motherfuckers are getting hammered for no reason. Yeah, exactly, they were invaded.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, like why are people just standing by and fucking watching this? Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, Go out there and be a hero man.
Speaker 1:It's not about being a hero. It's about doing what's right. Well, that's what I'm saying, doing what's right. It's not about being a fucking hero. Yeah, fucked over. Left and right they're fucking beautiful countries, fucking destroyed. It sounds like you have some fire in you. I wanted to do this, but when the war broke out, they were only taking veterans.
Speaker 2:That's what they said Well, things changed. Are you happy? I'm fucking happy bro.
Speaker 1:Let's see if they fucking cause a problem with my psych or my our military.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so, man. I think we can get you through, man.
Speaker 1:Our military was fucked. Okay, I'll fucking do it. Good Biden talking about oh, you heard what he said about the US citizens going over there, right? What did?
Speaker 1:he say, when this was happening, he goes. You know I'm discouraging all US citizens to go over there. He goes. You've got to understand that action can be taken, what? That if you survive, action can be taken. That you fought for a foreign military. You believe that shit? Oh, like, something can be. He can take away your citizenship. He can do all this shit Really. Yes, he was claiming all this shit. Oh, like, like, something can be, like he can take away your citizenship. He can do all this shit really. Yes, he was claiming all this shit. He was like so I discourage, I can't tell anybody not to do it, but I discourage all US citizens from doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because action can be taken for fighting for a foreign military. I said, please, if I survive that shit, if, I survive that shit.
Speaker 1:I'm sure what's his name will fucking give me citizenship right there, 100%, because obviously, if you're volunteering for this shit, you're not coming home until this war is done.
Speaker 2:Yeah you realize this is your chance of you surviving it's not zero chance.
Speaker 3:I'd say it's about 98% chance of surviving you listen to what you're told. You listen closely in training.
Speaker 1:It's not like you get to choose what job you get.
Speaker 2:I don't know why you guys are not happy about this, but we're getting the world.
Speaker 1:Let's find out if I can do this.
Speaker 2:This is a clear representation of the world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's find out if. I can do this. I can. Representation of the world yeah, that's fine. Yeah, let's find out if I can do this. I can't join our military. Yeah, let's see if a dream can come true 100%.
Speaker 7:I'll take you there.
Speaker 2:It's not about taking me there, mike, it's about finding out if they will allow me to do this, We'll do all the research man, Because I'm not just going to fly there and then be like sorry, you can't fucking join yeah.
Speaker 3:No, we'll call whatever like. See if there's somebody in the area in charge. You call the embassy.
Speaker 7:Yeah, no, we don't connect the people there.
Speaker 1:Oh, you don't connect the people. High ranking in the government yeah, in Ukraine. Yeah, you see, let's do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who the fuck, do you know, don't worry about that Put it on the air.
Speaker 7:Yeah, just when you're ready to pack your bags.
Speaker 2:Don't shit your pants when you're ready to pack your bags, okay, Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:You have to make us proud, man. You know the president himself. This guy is weird. Yeah, he looks a little like you, man.
Speaker 2:Holy shit. So what did we learn? Or did we learn anything? Totally, your question was like pretty serious. But do you know people?
Speaker 1:in the US government is what I'm asking. That can get me like. I don't want to say it on the air, but yeah yeah, this is more like off the air.
Speaker 2:We'll talk about it afterwards yeah, don't worry about it. So what did I learn? Did you get clarity or no?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2:Clarity is always good. Clarity is always good.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:See, I think that from these types of conversations, or at least the people that we come across, if we have the ability to extract and get to the point faster, it's the best kind of quality. Yeah, it's like wow, you know what I'm saying. It's either you put up or you shut up. Put up or shut up that's it. I don't want to fucking hear it. Yeah, that's true. Put your fucking money where your mouth is. I'm so happy about that kind of shit. You know what I mean. I get a boner from that.
Speaker 1:I get a boner from that kind of shit, congratulations if they allow me to go, I want the biggest party, the biggest blowout when you die, we're going to have a crazy party. Why does it have to be? When I die, you can't have hope that I'll survive.
Speaker 2:No, Are you kidding me? You have two left feet. My man, I'm not at things realistically. I can't fucking put my emotional feelings into somebody who, the fat man, always survives man. You know how many idiots are in the fucking movies. Bro Google how many people already died over there? I already know how many died how many, but it seems like how many.
Speaker 1:You want to say it out loud without Google.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look at you.
Speaker 1:I believe it's up there in the millions, right Go ahead. How many Ukrainian soldiers? Let's put it like that how?
Speaker 2:about together Russians and Ukrainians already died.
Speaker 1:So you think you Ukrainian casualties versus Russian casualties? Let's do that, okay. So the total deaths and injuries in the Ukraine war near half a million, so 500,000. That's death and injuries. Sure, okay. The total number of Ukrainian and Russian troops killed or wounded since the war in Ukraine began 18 months ago is nearing 500,000. Russian military casualties, the officials said, are approaching 300,000. That's Russian military. Yeah, the number includes as many as 120,000 deaths and 170,000 to 180,000 injured troops. Let's see, ukraine has around 500 troops, including active duty, reserve and paramilitary. That's how many troops they have right there Over there. It says Ukraine has an estimated yeah Over there. Okay, it says Ukraine has an estimated 100,000 dead. Only yeah, ukraine is. By my opinion, ukraine is kicking their fucking ass. Ukraine barely even with their shitty-ass weapons. When they were doing this, they were shooting down fucking Russian shit with their shitty-ass shit With a slingshot. They were whooping Russia's ass with Soviet-era fucking weapons.
Speaker 3:What the fuck? They were milking them like a bull, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:They were milking them like a bull. They were going bam bam bam, you fucking dead motherfucker. That's exactly what Ukraine was doing. They said come fuck with us, we'll fuck with you. And they've been shooting down their fucking fighters, everything. Eldar, you know, I'm actually fucking proud of them. I'm proud of them.
Speaker 2:There's an article Russian troops had 70,000 casualties in the past two months and Ukraine only lost 100,000.
Speaker 1:That was at the beginning. Russia was taking fucking casualties out of the casualty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, russia was taking fucking casualty out of the casualty.
Speaker 1:This was just like recently, ukraine's kicking their fucking ass good alright. Uncle Sam, thanks for the fucking F-16s.
Speaker 2:Ukraine is saying thanks for the F-16s so you'll be on the right side of history thanks for the tanks, thanks for everything Ukraine's kicking their ass.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be a little bit until Putin says you know, god bless America. Putin says enough is enough. We're getting the fuck out of here, because even our government is saying you better hurry up then. Make sure you make it. Putin? Is Putin's going to withdraw, because Ukraine is now starting to attack inside Russia? With our weapons. So it's happening good so, mike, you gonna help us here or no?
Speaker 7:um, yeah, I said I would you know. Put him in contact with the right people, alright, good, help you understand this. Yeah, I said I would you know. Put him in contact with the right people, all right, good, yeah, but help you? What Understand this? No, well, what's your conclusions?
Speaker 2:on this, my conclusions, or like is it exactly what you thought it was going to be? Totally, he's not happy. Why you just have like a sour-like face.
Speaker 3:No, well, no, no, no, no, I, no, I'm not unhappy. I promise, I promise he's not happy with the conclusions we made here. No, I'm not unhappy with him either. Why do you think I'm unhappy? No, no, seriously, okay, fine, as long as you're being honest. No, I'm actually being honest, I'm not unhappy. How about this?
Speaker 2:Were you surprised A little bit Okay, why? Yeah, so then you have a surprise face on yours. That's what I'm interpreting as unhappy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I have like a surprise face. But why? But I'm not unhappy, okay, but why were you surprised? Well, because it's always a little surprising, come on.
Speaker 2:How.
Speaker 3:What, how, what did you expect? It's always a little surprising.
Speaker 2:Look at him. You don't think it's a dumb, dumb bro. Yeah, like, were you surprised, mike? No, no, okay, why were you?
Speaker 3:surprised totally, I don't know. There's always to me a little surprise element.
Speaker 2:You have some kind of like maybe optimism like extra optimism, or yeah, maybe, maybe a little extra extra hope.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, that's interesting why, I don't know, maybe it's just in my nature yeah, like, why do you have that like that?
Speaker 2:you gravitate towards the fact that, like it's not seeing things for what they are. You know, like he has not said anything to like out in the ordinary, like this is along the lines of who he is. Yeah, for what they are. You know, like he has not said anything to like out of the ordinary, like this is along the lines of who he is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will do it. You get me going, I will fucking go.
Speaker 2:You see, he's stuck.
Speaker 1:He's stuck. Yeah, you know, I always wanted to serve dude. I always wanted to serve in the military.
Speaker 2:If the US Listen, if this is what you actually wanted, we're going to do our best to get you there. Trust me, you have my word on it.
Speaker 1:You have my word.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to buy you those two rifles that you wanted. Whatever the cost, let's do it, okay. Alright, good yeah. You know, I think part of this whole thing is to be able to actualize, if you can, the fastest way you can, and if dying or falling to your death, you know, from a parachute or whatever, not opening or whatever, or fighting in the war is that thing, I think that is the best like investment into yourself that you can do. I'll send you pictures. If you can get me over there.
Speaker 1:I'll send you pictures from Ukraine Sure, I hope you do.
Speaker 2:Sure, I hope you do. Yeah, I hope you do. Yeah, you know. Yeah, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 7:So, yeah, I think I think the bottom. A lot of times we don't realize how close it is to the opposite. I think the bottom. A lot of times we don't realize how close it is to the opposite. Mm-hmm, you know, yeah, what do you mean by that? And the faster you get to rock bottom and you realize it, then your next step is you're already going towards the top. Yeah, like on your way to kind of, like you said, to actualize yourself, to recovery.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think a lot of times, and maybe it's a paradoxical legacy- and the thing is, I really think that, like I don't know how maybe other philosophers thought about it, but like, the more I think about it, it's like death, dying or hurting yourself is like part of it, like it's like super necessary. You know what I mean To that thing. Yeah, that what you're talking about Because of the fact of your capacity is really just that, like you're capped. Yeah, you know what I mean, mm-hmm. And the capping obviously happens from attachment, from stupidity and all this other stuff. Right, desires, you know, adrenaline or whatever it is Right, like that's your stuff. So like that's predeterminism, bro, as at its best, like destiny. So we want to talk about a little bit destiny, bro, like based on what those influence are influencing you on. If you bought in, you're going to live out those destinies, those, those things that you bought into, those are going to be your paths to living out your life.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, and I think that, at the end of the day, life itself becomes the greatest teacher of what it is that you need to learn. You know what I'm saying? Like, aside from people trying to influence you and tell you like, no, don't do this, don't jump, don't go to military, like your mom or whatever. No, like life will tell you, like when you shit in your pants or whatever, whatever it is that you're doing, like, oh shit, like that's the type of thing that you needed in order to wake up. You know what I mean, and some people need death in order to maybe wake up. Next, life.
Speaker 7:Well, yeah, I think most people I feel like in general and I think probably is a huge one of those huge things. I was just talking to my dad a couple of days ago about this. Parents, they never let their kids learn the lessons. Yeah, and they actually delay their development and their ability to hit the bottom, so they can actually potentially bounce back yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, allowing that process to take place. Yeah, you always tell them Don't touch that it's hot. But I have the curiosity Like that fire is really in my eyes, like I really want to touch close to it. I'm not going to die from it. Let me touch it. Let me burn my hand and feel the pain in my finger.
Speaker 7:You'll remember that and you'll kill the curiosity.
Speaker 2:I will no longer have to have my dad tell me like yo don't touch the fire, I will remember my finger. Yeah, I remember the fire. I will have the intimate relationship between the experience. Yeah, to say like, oh shit, like I did not like that. If I did, I'd keep putting my hand in it. You know what?
Speaker 7:I mean, yeah, a lot of times that's what happens. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like if we cut his finger off today, right, you think he'll come back for the second finger? No, he wouldn't, because I'm pretty sure that the experience itself would be like, oh shit, like what did I get from it? I don't give a fuck about it. I told them. I looked them in the eyes and I said yo, I don't give a fuck about you or your fucking finger. So you better fucking believe it. You know what I'm saying. What I give a fuck is about the lesson that you're about to learn and, trust me, the lesson that I want you to learn is worth your fucking finger, because you're a fucking dumbass. Yeah, so I was willing to pull the trigger. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, mm-hmm, but the second finger, no chance, mm-hmm. Why? Because the lesson was learned in the first finger. Mm-hmm, he would have bled. I wouldn't give a fuck, I would have laughed, mm-hmm, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you mind if I.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:What I don't mind. Seriously, I don't mind, I don't believe you. Are you being serious? Are you pulling your bullshit?
Speaker 2:No, I gave you my word. Okay, just like. I would have given you my word before.
Speaker 3:Oh, just taking a deep breath yeah.
Speaker 2:You know Mm-hmm. So I think that everybody has that threshold. Everybody's shit is pre-written to see where they have to fall or where they have to get hurt, for the necessary lessons for them to level up. And the crazy it's not crazy, but some of them are really bad and deep and like how many people? Are dying right now in the world.
Speaker 7:Right yeah, different people have different lows, but that's predetermined. That's predetermined.
Speaker 3:That's why, in some of those countries, you get caught stealing your hands are off your hands.
Speaker 1:You ain't losing that second hand. If they allow me to go over there and I survive it, will I have a job waiting for me back here? Yeah, sure, absolutely. You'll be a decorated war veteran, so does that mean higher pay.
Speaker 2:Well, depends how many stars you bring back. What do? You mean stars.
Speaker 7:How many people you?
Speaker 1:shanked. It's not shanking dude.
Speaker 2:Shawshank Redemption. It's just not like the 70s where you got your little fucking. You didn't see close combat videos on YouTube from Ukraine. Oh, I did, oh you did Trust me, and the shank has to be involved sometimes you don't have to stab somebody.
Speaker 1:That's why they train you. So there you go. I'd be part of the Yankee group. Other Americans.
Speaker 2:Listen. If you're motivated enough, maybe we can put a little bonus. Every person that you shank and videotape, we'll give you five grand.
Speaker 1:Well, you want me to wear a GoPro right now and just wear a GoPro.
Speaker 2:We 100% want you to wear a GoPro.
Speaker 1:What you're going to be posting, the stuff I send you. We definitely can.
Speaker 2:We can start your career like that on YouTube. Yeah, so when you come back you have a YouTube channel already built for you.
Speaker 3:My time at war in Ukraine.
Speaker 1:What American veteran. American, american over there. With no military experience. Yeah, there you go. Question is will the US allow me back in?
Speaker 2:Don't worry about that, you'll be, fine over there. We'll get you a nice Ukrainianrainian shorty. You're a hero, you know she's gonna ride that bull. She's gonna ride you real nice. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:that's it I'm willing to do it. You'll buy me any, any gun. I want any gun you want any gun.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously, if it's a some crazy ass bazooka that costs thousands of dollars.
Speaker 6:I'm not buying you, I'm talking about a rifle, not buying you, that I'm talking about a rifle.
Speaker 1:It's going to cost thousands. I'm talking about a rifle. It's going to cost thousands. A rifle costs thousands of dollars. I can't go with a regular rifle.
Speaker 2:What kind of rifle are you going to buy? How much does this cost?
Speaker 3:I'm probably looking at it Well you're not taking that from here to there. You would buy it there.
Speaker 2:If I buy it legally, I can literally fly with the gun under the plane. Are we talking about AR-15 or something like that? What are we talking about? What kind of gun. Scar. Okay, how much is a SCAR?
Speaker 1:It's an American Special Ops semi-auto rifle SCAR H Close, what the fuck $3,400?
Speaker 7:$3,000 and $3,200? That's cheap bro.
Speaker 1:What kind of gun is this? It's what American special ops use.
Speaker 2:It's a CS gun, fine, I'll buy you that gun If you go.
Speaker 1:No problem, fuck it. You gonna set me up with success. Boy, I will. I want a scope on that bitch too. You need to calm the fuck down. I'm just saying yeah. I'm just saying yeah, if I'm gonna go, I want the best of the best.
Speaker 2:no problem, this is what special ops use this is what CLZ use, all that shit, no problem, I want the best of the best, no problem that's worth laughing at you what do you mean laughing? I'm going well, you're gonna donate that shit into some ditch in the water or puddle, cause you fucking got hit, you're probably gonna trip over your feet and fucking knock yourself out, you dummy, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:Or shoot yourself. I'm going bro. What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 7:Like that fucking UFC video where the fucking girl knocked herself out by falling, oh yeah. Or some kind of fake video going on or something. I don't remember. I'm going yeah, great.
Speaker 2:I'm not excited for you.
Speaker 7:How far are you going to make it? That's going gonna be the funny part. Yeah, you're gonna sprain your ankle in a fucking ditch cuz you got fucking two left feet. Start getting in shape now. I'm excited, yeah, yeah that's great Start getting ready good.
Speaker 1:If I die, I'll have one wish one quest.
Speaker 2:Fuck you're, you and your request. I have one request Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:I wonder quest, I Want to be cremated, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:You want to be cremated.
Speaker 7:What the fuck I want to be cremated.
Speaker 2:Cream pie.
Speaker 1:Cremated, okay, and I want you to smoke my ashes. Are you stupid In a joint.
Speaker 2:I'm not smoking, no damn ashes or shit.
Speaker 1:I'm going to come up in a spirit man. It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 2:They're not going to find your body or retrieve your body. You're going to be fucking disintegrated by one of the fucking mortars that's going to come your way. What?
Speaker 1:do you mean They've already reported, like five Americans, that they died?
Speaker 2:Okay, sure, five out of how many? Out of how many? You know what I'm saying. They're not going to be fertilizer.
Speaker 7:Yeah exactly For the next generation, exactly.
Speaker 2:Come on, man Soil. Forget about it. You're not that important. My man to smoke your ass.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, damn bro, talk about friendship, won't even smoke my fucking ass.
Speaker 2:What friendship are you talking about, bro? We have nothing in common.
Speaker 1:We have nothing to agree with 15 years of what? What?
Speaker 7:yeah, no, we don't know you 15 days bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't know shit about you. We don't agree with anything you're saying. Think about it, damn bro yeah, that's fucked up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 15 years and now I'm a bro uh-huh, holy shit.
Speaker 2:We don't know you from anything, man from a lick you know me for 15 years, I know of you dude. I know of a Harris Schuster that lives out there somewhere, does some weird shit and just that's fucked up, man.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:do we keep in touch? Do we have any common things? What are we talking about? You've just been here for a couple weeks for this population, Damn bro. Do we keep?
Speaker 5:in touch Like do we have any common things? Like what are we?
Speaker 7:talking about Damn bro, you've just been here for a couple weeks.
Speaker 2:No more for this type of read For this population. Right, they're like, oh sentimental. Like we knew each other. We knew each other. Yeah, we don't know each other at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we had some good fucking times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure, like when you were 13 years old, we still have good times now. Well, sure, we're having a good time now, but it doesn't mean it's gonna last, damn bro. Besides you wanna do shit that like I completely like.
Speaker 1:Disagree with.
Speaker 2:Then you don't have to agree with everything I do To be Fucking friends dude Sure, but like, if you're going to war, like what friends are we talking about? Like I'm fighting for your fucking people. Dude, what people? I don't give a fuck. What are you talking about? I don't support no damn war.
Speaker 1:You don't support the Ukrainians. I don't support the war. You don't support the Ukrainians.
Speaker 2:I didn't say I didn't support the Ukrainians. I said I don't support the war. That's fucked up, dude. You know what I'm saying. You support Ukrainians. You have your own understanding about it. You know what I mean? I don't necessarily.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you a question, right, mm-hmm? Do you believe that it's wrong for what's happening in Ukraine? What's happening in Ukraine, that they were invaded. Do you believe that it's wrong that they're being attacked right now?
Speaker 2:Sure I do. If they're being attacked and invaded? Sure, I do agree with that. What do you mean if what's going out? Well, that's what I'm saying. If this is the truth, if what you're saying is true, right, because I'm not sure. I'm not sure what's going on, so the footage is not enough for you. Listen, I'm going off of based on what you're telling me. If this is true, then I agree with you.
Speaker 1:Damn bro.
Speaker 2:Not enough for you.
Speaker 1:No, bro, if, if, if they're being attacked right now.
Speaker 2:You haven't seen footage, so then if they're being attacked, I agree with you, it's not good.
Speaker 1:At least I'm one of the people that got balls, dude.
Speaker 2:I'm happy for you. I'm happy that when we look at your tombstone people are going to say he had balls and nobody ever going to visit him. You think?
Speaker 1:it's fucking stupid, don't you?
Speaker 2:I think you're an idiot. Fuck you, but I think you're an idiot, fuck you, but I think that you're an idiot that needs this. Therefore, I approve this message.
Speaker 1:What are you the fucking president?
Speaker 2:I approve this message A hundred percent. I approve it. I'm going for something else. You know what I mean. You don't have yet the ability to understand what it is that I'm going for.
Speaker 1:You've been trying to teach me that.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go, right, I cannot go against your nature. Your nature is your nature and this is your right. It is your right to be an idiot and I'm okay with that. You can be an idiot, you know what I mean. That's it.
Speaker 2:And I want to promote that, which you want and totally does too, at the fastest rate as possible. If you're going to war or jumping out of a plane, we're completely okay with that. The fastest way for you to die, we're going to be completely okay with it. Losing a finger, losing a limb, becoming handicapped, whatever If that's what it takes for you to level up and become a little bit higher, great, I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1:The fastest way is the fucking plane. I Great, I have no problem with that. The fastest way is the fucking plane. I already told you that. But then you brought up the Ukraine.
Speaker 2:Well, the $20,000. You know, what I mean.
Speaker 1:All we got to do is find someone that's willing to fucking do it.
Speaker 3:Well, now we know we need two people, so we need more money, more money, yeah, no, you don't what they're going to split it.
Speaker 7:Bro, I'm up to be like yeah, I'm willing to do it. Okay, you just ask my price, call them up people.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm willing to jump out of the plane. Dude, I'm willing to go to ukraine. If I can't find someone to jump out of a plane, I'll go to ukraine that's the deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, that's fine I'll find someone.
Speaker 7:People do it all the time okay, no, you're, you're definitely ready, like I'm willing to do this. You're definitely ready.
Speaker 1:I'm willing to do this If I can't find anybody to jump out of the plane, I'll go to Ukraine.
Speaker 7:Okay, what do you mean? You'll go to Ukraine? You're going to Ukraine, yeah, starting Monday, or I'm working on it. We're going to work on both. The 40k is going to be definitely not as fast.
Speaker 1:I'm not talking about 40k. If I can find someone that's willing to fucking do this, I'm going to go with my first choice. I already said that If I can find someone that's willing to let me do my first choice, then I'll do that. If not, I'll go straight to Ukraine. Great, I already said that I'm not going to change my first choice. You're a man of your word. Yeah, like I said. I just said, if I can't find someone that's willing to let me jump out of a plane, I'll go to my second choice.
Speaker 2:Listen, Harris, we understand the importance of the attachments you made for yourself throughout your life and we respect them. We don't necessarily agree with them. You made for yourself throughout your life and we respect them. We don't necessarily agree with them, but we respect them. This is America, bro. I know I'm a patriot and I'm American. You know what I mean? Oh, you're technically not American, I respect your free speech.
Speaker 3:What do you mean? I got American citizenship.
Speaker 7:Yeah, me too. Everybody's American here. Yeah, you're not American. You don't even have a passport. I drive an American-made car.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 7:I support America.
Speaker 2:To the fucking T, and I'm actually kind of happy that there are people like you that are going to go over there and fight for a cause, so I don't have to. You know what I'm saying. So good on you. You don't think I can survive.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck about that.
Speaker 2:No, but you say you don't think I can. No, I don't think so. You know what I mean. I don't. I think you can't run a straight line without tripping over and falling.
Speaker 7:You can't pour a teacup without fucking spilling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Mike said that you have fucking hands. You shake your hands as fucking of an 80-year-old alcoholic. You know what. I'm saying You're going to shoot the gun. He's got a sniper. He's fucking going like this. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Think about that. You want me to really think about this?
Speaker 2:No, I don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying, but something tells me inside that it's going to be inevitable, that you're going to have to reflect. It might be too late, which would be funny. And why would that be funny? Well, it's like life. You know what I mean. Life has to happen in the way it has to happen. You know what I mean. If it was pre-written for you for it to be like, oh shit, it's too late and I lost a limb or something, you know what needed to learn a lesson, that's pretty funny, you know. But if not, you're like, oh shit, this ain't for me, like I'm out of here.
Speaker 1:You know, you can't just say I'm out of here. You signed a contract, well, there's deserters out there.
Speaker 2:You know that. Deserters, yeah, aka pussies, which you probably, in my mind, you'd fall into that camp. Oh, fuck you. What Put me wrong Pussy? Yeah, what are we doing, man? We have to. This is our job, man. Our job is to constantly put, challenge these people to put their money where their mouth is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's it. That's how I view it.
Speaker 2:Good, yeah, I do too. Yeah, I do too. Let them talk. Let them talk. They just can't talk around here. They have to fucking do. We have to get rich so we can put their fucking actions into play. Let's go, motherfucker. Let's see it. Let's see if you're about that life.
Speaker 1:Let's do it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, is that playing devil's advocate? Or is that just expediting the process, the inevitable? Is that wrong? I don't think so. No, no, you don't think so you don't think Is that wrong? I don't think so. No, no, you don't think so. You don't think it's wrong. Is it playing devil's advocate? Boo. It's just calling somebody's bluff.
Speaker 1:So I have to pass you know what I'm saying I have to pass a medical assessment, including a physical fitness assessment.
Speaker 2:And looking like a fucking 90-year-old Arabic woman.
Speaker 1:Do you think I?
Speaker 2:could pass Like an upside-down fucking pear. Do you think I could pass the physical assessment? No bro. Are you kidding me.
Speaker 1:It's worth a try, it's worth a try.
Speaker 2:but yeah, I'm going to go through and I'm going to try to pass. I watched you warm up with Mike at the gym.
Speaker 1:You don't think I can pass it.
Speaker 2:I saw how you needed to do. Mike asked you to do long stretches with your arms.
Speaker 1:Okay, so while combat veterans form the you look disgusting. Well, fuck you bro I got to start charging you for this shit, please do. Yeah, you can start paying up while combat veterans, former military personnel and people with relevant experience we'll get you to bypass the physical the more time passes totally.
Speaker 2:I think that the more the straightforward conversations you have, it's inevitable for people to start doing their own research, and then you start leveling up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, you asked if I'm upset. I'm not upset. I promise I'm not being dishonest.
Speaker 2:I think that you should get excited almost for these type of conversations.
Speaker 3:That's why I was promoting.
Speaker 2:Why is he in his phone? Explain to me.
Speaker 3:That's why I was promoting the cutting off of the finger.
Speaker 2:Okay, you understand that you expedite the process 100%.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to call the Ukrainian embassy right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy, we have a live example of it.
Speaker 7:But then are you saying that the whole not not the whole, but generally the population is like this yeah, and the old paper tigers, bro.
Speaker 2:That's sick. They're all paper tigers. They're gonna be stupid ones and obviously gonna go and touch the fire and they're gonna die yeah right, but generally it's all like this, like they got nothing. There's no water, there's no, there's nothing that I can stand on, that's sick yeah, because it just is dumb, right like yeah, because you gotta understand that pain is pain, mhm, and it's universal yeah, pain is universal, no matter how no matter how you spin it, you're not gonna spin it.
Speaker 2:You can only hold on to. You're like oh, I'm a hero for just so long you have no legs. Mhm, you're handicapped. Mhm, live with that. And then now you have to be around people who are also handicapped. You also have to be around people who are like yo yo, yo, hero, yo, you did this good shit to keep you up. But the truth of the matter is, at night or at home, by yourself, you're having a hard time moving around. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Finding. You know, your other half living day-to-day chores. You're handicapped, bro. Yeah, from this shit. You know what I'm saying, but you didn't think things through.
Speaker 7:Mhm, you got attached to something mhm that's crazy, right, like, but I think it's crazy. But it's also gonna come always back to the paradoxical shit mhm, the closer you are to to this, like the opposite of it yeah, the closer you are to this like the opposite of it? Yeah, is the closer you are to the opposite, like the closer you are to rock bottom. Yeah, is also the closer you are to actually fucking living a, a more genuine true life, a more genuine, true life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the thing, though. Everybody's rock bottom is different based on the attachments that they have.
Speaker 7:But the closer you get, for whoever it is, whatever your bottom is, once you touch it, the bounce back. You already fucking made a huge jump.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why sometimes, if you can have, if you can be around people that can promote this type of shit as soon as possible for you. Like Jim Carrey said almost yeah I want you to be rich, just to find out that you're fucking going to be depressed is shit, it doesn't mean anything After a while. How many bitches can you fuck? How many boats can you ride? How many flights can you take? Right, the satisfaction has to be internal. You can only hide for so long from the reality.
Speaker 2:That's right, you know what I mean and what are you going to get out of it. You know you have to face yourself, and facing yourself is the hardest thing. Yeah, you know. Why, why is he Googling shit? Why is he looking for stuff? He's a pussy bro, he's a pussy.
Speaker 1:I'm not a pussy. I'm not a pussy. You know what I'm?
Speaker 2:saying yeah, you know that's a compliment that I'm not a pussy. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know that's a compliment that I'm telling you that you're a pussy. Why? Because A pussy Does research To make sure he prevents pain. I don't know if that that's insane. You know, what I'm saying. Of course, pussy is a smart Fucking motherfucker.
Speaker 7:Yeah, who's thinking about Preserving himself? Of course he's a smart fucking motherfucker. Yeah, who's thinking about preserving himself? Of course he's not that cowboy.
Speaker 2:Of course he's not the fucking motherfucker who thinks he's brave you know what I mean Runs into the fucking building. We talked about this. You know? No, motherfucker, those motherfuckers, they perish bro.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's it, they're gone For what? So somebody can say yeah, oh, that was a Harris, it was a Harris, yeah.
Speaker 7:Nobody even remember the kid who gives a fuck yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean we got life to live.
Speaker 1:No, I can't back down now because you're never going to let me live it down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to keep pressing it until you say yo, you know what? Please unsubscribe me from your fucking agenda. I leveled up, I'm a new person and I'd like to live this way. So that's the end goal is to level up. Well, 100%, because I have an agenda here to brainwash you into my agenda. It's called elderism. It was coined by Dennis. You know what I'm saying? It was coined by Dennis.
Speaker 1:It was coined by Dennis what Dennis used to act like me.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, he coined it. He's like Elder. What you're doing over here is called elderism. You know what I mean? You're trying to brainwash people into your way of thinking. You know what I'm saying. This is what's happening here. I'm telling you straight up.
Speaker 1:I thought you were fucking pushing me to do this shit. That's what I? What shit.
Speaker 2:The Whatever it is that you want, I'm going to push it. You know what I mean To get you level up fast and higher. If you chicken out right, you spend all that money. You chickened out on the last second. This is good. We've learned something about you. We've learned something about you and you learned something about yourself.
Speaker 3:My parents legally know that I'm getting brainwashed. What do you? Mean Like they know. What does you mean? Like they know, what does that mean? Like they know that I get influenced and like brainwashed by what?
Speaker 2:Legally, though, what does that mean?
Speaker 3:Like they know that this is going on and they're like okay with it.
Speaker 1:Really so the ultimate goal here is to get to the point where I need to say stop being a fucking idiot. What that's your ultimate goal? Well, no, is to realize that I'm being a fucking idiot.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. There's your understanding of life, there's our understanding of life, and then there's the truth. Right? So I need to come to the fact. We here, with this type of podcast, would like to get you and us to the point where we understand the truth together and live in accordance to truth. No, no for those who want to. Well, of course, yeah, of course. Right for those who want to get to the point of understanding truth for what it is, so then we can live in accordance and be happy and enjoy life how it's supposed to be lived.
Speaker 2:Now, if you have your theories like yo, I want to live on the edge, I want to jump out of the building and I want to go to fight war and stuff like that, we're willing and we're okay with you, go testing this theory to see whether or not you're right, and we're okay with you dying on this theory, on this shield. You know what I'm saying. We're not going to fucking interfere here. We're okay with this, you know, because we think that this is the fastest way of your development as a human being. We just have a theory that you, as a human being, possesses a lot more potential than just fucking grabbing a gun and shooting other people. This is my theory. However, however, that potential that I'm talking about, what we're talking about here, what Toli's trying to make you out by teaching you, by supporting you, then I really need to think about this.
Speaker 2:Listen, I don't know what you need to do. It's up to you.
Speaker 1:I need to find myself, I guess.
Speaker 2:Maybe right, what we think, that this is like, what we talk about, right, it's going to get you to the point where you're going to be the happiest person, the actualized person, right, respected person, but all those things that you actually, deep inside, actually want.
Speaker 1:I want to make money. That's all I care about.
Speaker 2:Listen and this is why, when we have these conversations totally like, okay, cool, if you want to make money, right, how do we get there? Can you do skydiving? Can you go to war? Can you do sales? What's the fastest?
Speaker 1:path to victory. Let me ask you a question. This business if I work my way up to Tully's position, will I be able to eventually have a million dollars? Will I be able to eventually?
Speaker 2:have a million dollars, so do you have to answer that?
Speaker 1:Like like talking, investing everything, saving, yeah, IRAs.
Speaker 2:Could you see that If I was to answer it, I can say that you can have a hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1:Doing this Absolutely Totally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I think he's right but I think totally understands the scope of what's going on and why he agrees with me. Is there a reason for that?
Speaker 1:Because my dad's insisting. I don't necessarily believe him. He's insisting this is a dying business. Okay, he said he went through the same shit in the fashion world. He was a fashion designer before he started and fashion is dead. Yeah, I agree with you. He said the computers took it over and eventually computers will take over what we're doing.
Speaker 7:Yeah, Do you believe that?
Speaker 4:Part of leveling up Harris and don't tell your dad. I said this, okay is to mentally kill your parents the fuck.
Speaker 1:Oh, what do you mean? Mentally kill? Yes, like mentally change the way they think. No, what are you talking about? No?
Speaker 2:no, no, no, no, no. It's to bury them in their understanding of thinking, just like Tully's trying to bury you here on this platform right now, by sending you away to do all the stupid shit that he thinks is mad, crazy and stupid. This is the way we, this is what I think that you have to do to your parents in order to level up and surpass them. If I Hold on one second, I, if I Hold on one second, I have a theory that if we me, you, mike totally have kids, they're supposed to surpass us and they're supposed to mentally kill us when they say like guys, you guys are old heads, you guys don't know what you're talking about. Okay, we know better. This is how I think that life is supposed to be made, so let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1:By the way I'm going right now think that life is supposed to be made. So let me ask you a question. By the way I'm going right now, what's the chance, if I listen and learn, that I will be successful at this company?
Speaker 2:You used two words listen and learn.
Speaker 3:I'll put it to you this way, From where I started your opinion I don't think that you can ever make any kind of money. If you want money here.
Speaker 1:So what's your suggestion?
Speaker 7:That's your suggestion. That's as best as you can put it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Do you think I could be successful here?
Speaker 2:We're going to ask this question again it's an easy answer, dude, because you don't understand what success even means or what we deem to be successful yeah, I would say where things stand right now.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so you don't think I can make goal, the goal, the goal, like what you don't think I can eventually lead up to the 40 I think you could definitely do that, but that's not what I view as successful.
Speaker 3:You asked me if I think, what do you view as successful it's making that's a good question making commission it's doing. No, that's eventually doing what you do. That's not what I view as successful. It's making commission. It's eventually doing what you do. That's not what I view as successful.
Speaker 1:What do you view as successful Changing the person you are?
Speaker 2:Yeah. How do you deduce that?
Speaker 7:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:He's a complete idiot but he's saying some shit.
Speaker 3:Explain to me, probably the ego's going down. Why did you answer that? What do you mean? Explain to me Some shit. Explain to me, I mean, probably the ego's going down and then maybe a little bit of.
Speaker 2:Why did you answer that Like that? What do you mean? Why did you say like change? As a person, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 1:I'm a piece of shit, okay. I act like a piece of shit, okay.
Speaker 7:You eat piece of shit.
Speaker 2:Shut up man For enough money. How do you know this stuff? To answer what he actually there is what you agree.
Speaker 3:I'm starting to understand what he's saying really, but I don't get how that's possible, given the last 2 hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess I've been finally using my fucking brain and starting to think what happened the last 2? Hours I've been reading the stats you see?
Speaker 3:no, but I understand. But the last two hours.
Speaker 1:I've been reading the stats on the war you understand.
Speaker 2:I told you this that push come to shove, the person is forced to do own research and educate themselves. There's no other way, because the fluff and all the talk is just the talk, totally. He went and did this and said yo, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3:Do you think I don't agree with it? I was pushing for the finger, Elder. I know. I put my headphones down first. I said yo let's go. Yeah, no, I know that. I know that what I'm saying is that fuck the shit right, no, but I'm just saying as an example, like yeah, because I'm also calling the bluff.
Speaker 2:Yes, but you have to understand that it's always this trajectory, it's always this case. Like no one knowingly does wrong, this is Socrates' fucking.
Speaker 1:No one knowingly does wrong. This is Socrates' fucking coin. Okay, so when I was asking if I was going to be successful here, I know I have to this is why he said can you give me some weed?
Speaker 2:You understand this or no?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He wants to alter the reality for the moment. Yeah, in order to proceed with what's going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a reason I said that Well shut the fuck up Steve-O.
Speaker 2:That well, steve. Shut the fuck up steve. Oh yeah, well, steve was a drug addict. There's a reason for that because this is the only moment that he can proceed with something like this, when the mind is altered on the, on the, on the reasonable mindset, many steps of non-mind altered I have to go through.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm betting on that too. Yeah, exactly, you know, unless you hold somebody down and, like, inject them with something against their will.
Speaker 6:Yeah, right there's no normal person will go through this process.
Speaker 1:Okay, what I was asking yeah, I know I have to change as a person to be a successful yeah person in society. Yeah, okay, what I was asking, okay, I'm not talking about as a person. Do you think I can learn? I have a good chance of learning this. I've already proven I'm getting better at what I'm doing right now, Right now no.
Speaker 3:What do you mean? Like my optimism over the years. From training people From training people. Years ago, my optimism was extremely high. I'm like yo for sure, 100% you could do this.
Speaker 1:It's possible, stuff like that.
Speaker 6:It's not like you're throwing me in the deep end right now.
Speaker 2:No, he's not. You have to listen to what he's saying.
Speaker 3:That's what I felt for a very long time and then, over time, especially the last person that was here, it definitely changed my perspective completely. And then my like, um, not not optimism bar, but my realism bar probably, uh, superseded my optimism bar, where, like, I don't need, like, I don't need to have this feeling of optimism like anymore, where I can just be like, um, now I understand how challenging it is and how, like, how big the the scope of service is, right. So before, for example, like, if, if we talk about like my deck, right, remember all that wood there, right, how, if you just like, okay, like, yeah, like, if we have like a, a garlic peeler, like a potato peeler, we can peel all that wood in probably two hours.
Speaker 3:With just a potato peeler, that's how I view it, not exactly that.
Speaker 2:But an exaggeration version of that.
Speaker 3:Now I understand doing that with a potato peeler is a crazy scope and it'd probably take me years to do all that wood with just a potato peeler, just to peel it. Imagine, right. So when you ask me that question now, do I think so right now? No right, but with particular effort, desire time, right, that goes. That goes either up or down. That either goes to like actually no chance in hell it. It can go there right, or it can go into maybe there's something here, there is something here For sure, there's something here. This is a lock right. Or it could go the opposite way, where it goes down and down, and that is only to me like shown or developed through time, now, over time. So there's no answer right now that I can give you yes or no. It's always a possibility, but that's, that's like anything's a possibility. It's like can I make the nba? I guess, possibly right, like I'm alive, I guess I have all like the human, like legs and hands, right, like yeah, that's possible, but it's improbable, unlikely, probably right, right, like you know.
Speaker 1:Let me state this but you In my position, you never had someone in my position. You threw them in. The deep end is what you said, paris.
Speaker 2:we never had a position like yours, with the people that we are.
Speaker 1:What do you mean by the people that you are?
Speaker 2:Every time we hired somebody, we were very specific people, okay, and we've progressed through time To learning, to learning Right.
Speaker 1:What you need to do, what we need to do and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Right, we never had this situation, but we also never had the other situation, but we also never had the other situation and the other situation and the other situation.
Speaker 1:Does that?
Speaker 2:make sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've listened to the calls, okay. To see where. I've started, yeah, and where I've gone. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I believe I am learning a little bit. Okay, it's just taking me a little time, yeah, and it's just taking me a little time, yeah, and it's what you said from the beginning. Yeah, that I just started. I need to stop raising my expectation that I'm going to meet this thing right away, which is how I walked in here. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to fucking kill this. Yeah, actually, sitting down and fucking doing it has made me Humble Understand. Yeah, and fucking doing it has made me humble understand. Yeah, I'm still getting used to actually talking to the people, you know, which I didn't think would be that hard. I've always been a people person, yeah, but actually talking to them, yeah, is different yeah, that's why I think that he's a skeptic.
Speaker 2:Right, you ask him the question. He's a skeptic because he's been through certain things and he's gotten optimistic about it but how has he, how did he do it?
Speaker 1:you know what I'm saying. I think through perseverance so what? Just sticking to it and fucking?
Speaker 2:yeah, he was anal about wanting to learn. He wanted to like okay, fine, I suck, but I don't want to suck anymore. I want to suck a little bit less and a little bit less and a little bit less. And he kept progressing.
Speaker 1:How long will it take me to get used to talking to these people?
Speaker 2:Well, I personally think, since he's not here, you're doing better already. You have surpassed my expectations, based on my expectations of you. You've surpassed them, which I'm surprised. Okay, can I continue? Well, that's the thing. We don't know. Only time will tell. Tully doesn't want to make any projections. You know what I mean, which is rightfully so. It's okay. He doesn't want to be disappointed himself, and I also don't want to be disappointed. Obviously, I want you to succeed, I want us to progress and stuff like that. That's what we're shooting for. This is why we giving you the help. That's why we want to raise you. That's what we have in these Friday calls and stuff like that. Right, like every Friday, we're going to have these sessions that we want to teach you. We want to give you the resources to be better. How you're going to interpret them, that's up to you. If you have stronger attachments to wanting to skydive every day, I don't want to skydive, I want to enjoy life.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go. We have a very specific interpretation of what that is, and you have that as well, and that necessarily does not see eye to eye, and we're okay with that. That's why we're saying that if your attachment is stronger than our attachments, we're ready to send you to war and we don't give a fuck for me, I would say historically, my desire for something to work out like this has always been higher than the people in his seat desire to do things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, hold on Right, um, and every time it's always like the same kinds of things where it's like you're pulling teeth to try to, like, help someone and do something, yeah Right. So, like now, I have no desire to do that, but, um, I guarantee you, I guarantee to you, for as long as you stay here, your desire to succeed, for you to succeed, will never, will never, supersede my desire for you to succeed. If you have that desire, I guarantee you that you understand what he just said, or no?
Speaker 3:you'll never lap me in this, ever wow for me to succeed.
Speaker 1:Do you hear what he's saying?
Speaker 2:You'll never lap me in this Ever Wow For me to succeed. Did you hear what he's saying? Yeah, I did. What does it mean? Explain to me, because I understood what he said. He wants me to succeed. No, you should be offended, why?
Speaker 1:What did he say? He said he wants me to succeed more than I would ever want myself, but I think I'm different from people you have had here. Okay, because?
Speaker 3:I have Everyone's different.
Speaker 1:No, I have been to the lowest point in my fucking life.
Speaker 2:That's the kicker.
Speaker 1:I never want to be homeless again. I never want to go back to the place I was. That's what's pulling me. You've seen me how fucking stressed I fucking got doing this, but I still come in every day and I do it. When. I was younger, I'd throw in the fucking towel. But from the experiences I've had, I keep coming in and I keep trying to be better. This is why.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's the right time for you, maybe, well, we don't know. Yet Time will tell. Time always tells Life is undefeated.
Speaker 1:My dad is like oh, you should really be applying to federal or state jobs because you get a pension, it's a guaranteed paycheck, but I don't want, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2:You know who is this person? Is this split personality?
Speaker 3:Like I said, the last two hours to me were like mentally unfathomable, yeah so.
Speaker 2:I don't know anymore. Split personality. This has to be something like. It's a phenomenon.
Speaker 1:I think I'm keeping in the back of my head that if this doesn't work out, I can always go to that oh. I can always be the idiot. This is a very good point.
Speaker 2:And make the money that way. It's a very good thing.
Speaker 1:I think that's what I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm keeping that if this doesn't work out. This is crazy testimony. I could always be the idiot and make the money that way. This is crazy testimony guys, all right, I know everyone listens, probably thinking I'm a jackass.
Speaker 2:No, no. I think this is the most honest thing I've heard on this podcast in a long time.
Speaker 1:I'm keeping the idiot thing. Yeah, as a backup If this doesn't work out, and I think I had to get rid of yeah, the backup.
Speaker 2:Yeah, isn't that profound I don't know, I don't know. You can't Back me up here.
Speaker 7:No, the thing is. What he's saying is you cannot. You cannot make this just like it can't be random, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think I went into this explain to me how you can be so.
Speaker 7:Say something that yeah, so complete opposite, yeah, but makes so much sense, yeah unless he's saying something and we're interpreting it. Yes, incorrectly.
Speaker 1:I've been keeping a backup plan uh huh that if this doesn't work out, I could be the idiot like everyone is uh huh is doing right now do you understand that you are potentially converting right now yourself? I, I do. I've been keeping the backup plan, yeah, that if this doesn't work out, I can get rich. Yeah, okay, yeah, but it means risking my life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good, crazy right.
Speaker 1:It is crazy, there you go, but you know it made so much sense, I think, nate died bro.
Speaker 2:What the fuck. I think it made so much sense. You're crazy. I can't see it.
Speaker 1:I think I got to get my cursing under control Okay, because I curse like a fucking hog, like a fucking sailor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I okay, because I curse like a fucking hog, like a fucking sailor yeah, I think that's the least of your problems bro, what the cursing?
Speaker 7:yeah, it's gonna go away, naturally you gotta learn more than five words to be able to exactly.
Speaker 2:I always thought I'd fucking curse forever sooner or later it's gonna die out because it's gonna be corny. You know what I mean, just like my gay jokes are gonna die out with you and all this other shit. It all has its own time. You know what I mean. It's a normal cycle.
Speaker 3:Holy fuck. Yeah, I feel like I'm being pranked.
Speaker 1:I'm being dead serious. I've been keeping a backup plan in my mind.
Speaker 2:You've said that many times throughout.
Speaker 3:Because you can't like like. After this podcast, I need heavy medication is how I feel. Why yeah? For some reason.
Speaker 2:I think that you underestimate the ability for us to create magic.
Speaker 1:You just underestimate that For some reason, this podcast makes me use my brain in a different level, and last time he said the same thing.
Speaker 7:Yeah, and he was saying it might be the drinks, but he didn't drink today, so it's not the drinks.
Speaker 1:It makes me use my mind in a different.
Speaker 7:This is the sickest testimony ever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do. Why? Because I don't know. It's just something about being on a bad gas and actually just sitting down and having conversations that make you really think about what the fuck is going on.
Speaker 7:Yeah, it cannot. I don't understand what else it could be other than this fucking I feel like I'm in a group session.
Speaker 1:I've always hated fucking therapy, yeah.
Speaker 7:Where is he pulling the answers from? I'm telling you, it's the soul, but it's also.
Speaker 3:I mean, like my only interpretation of what happened was there's a point where the ego grows and grows and then there's just a burnout.
Speaker 1:That's right. It's like a balloon, is what you're saying. It is Not even like a burnout, that's right, it's like a balloon is what you're saying it is.
Speaker 3:It just pops. It is Not even like a balloon, where it's like, the requirement for it to continue is so high that there's not enough fuel Agreed to maintain that fire 100%, because to maintain that kind of fire, yes, like you got to be out of control. It's exhausting, bro, it's exhausting, it's exhausting and after a certain point the come down happens.
Speaker 7:Well, he did have that adrenaline dump when he almost lost his wiener. What wiener we're going to have your winky. Yeah, winky, your smokehouse dog, I think that kind of calmed him down, because he Well, no, yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I really think that that we talked about right and him going and trying to research stuff, right, it's an example of like look, I'm going to do my research, I'm going to level up myself to see whether or not some of the things that I've been saying is feasible or doable, and we obviously challenge that and that's why he's doing that, rightfully. So he's leveling up, like this is good. He's using his brain. Therefore, he's making proper conclusions which align closer to what we're talking about. Like this is the type of stuff that makes us want to invest into you.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, because we see that there's potential, but my mom has gotten on board with me working here. She's happy with it. After she talked to you, my dad, I don't think Well, listen, we don't give a fuck, harris, we have a flow here, whether people get with it or they don't, we don't give a fuck. It's going to get to the point where I need to meet my commission. Yeah, because every time I go home he doesn't stop who, my dad.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's busting your balls about it. No.
Speaker 1:Are you sharing it? No, he's trying to fucking. Every time I go home, he comes in my room and he's like you know you should really be applying to these things. It gets to the point where I just want to say leave me the fuck alone.
Speaker 2:So he's bothering you.
Speaker 1:He's not talking about it, like this is never going to work out. Yeah, you know sales is not a job you want. Yeah, it's like he doesn't stop.
Speaker 2:How about this? We can teach you, Harris, how to speak to your dad in such a way where he can stop.
Speaker 1:My dad, I don't know. It's like he can never change. He doesn't like change, he thinks he knows everything and it's just the way he's always been.
Speaker 7:You understand that everybody's dad is the same and everybody's mom is the same. Harris, yes, we all have the same stuff that you're talking about. Yes, our parents are. Nobody's parents are different. Nobody that you ever met have different parents.
Speaker 2:But how can you change his mindset, Harris, my mom's been telling me to be a lawyer and doctor up until like two or three years ago. Dude, my dad and my mom. They still don't know what I do.
Speaker 1:You sell handwritten letters, dude. How is that so hard?
Speaker 2:No, I know, but they don't get it they don't get it. They're like how is this even possible? You might understand it now, right, but to people like that, they're like yo, this is like a dying art. It's dinosaurs and all this other shit that we're doing, we're resurrecting a dinosaur right.
Speaker 1:The only person in my family that ever understood what we're doing she's probably the smartest person in my family is my sister. When I told her about it, she goes. Yeah, I've heard about those companies and she goes, but it's the first time I've ever known someone that's actually working for one yeah, listen, we're rare but nonetheless we have a place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean in the world.
Speaker 1:I believe this company's gonna be around in 20 years. Well, give us a fuck.
Speaker 2:I know but you know what I mean. Like we don't. Well, I'm not looking that far, I'm looking at what are we doing today, how are we doing it?
Speaker 1:But that's what everyone else in my family is looking at, but that's their problem. Harris, yeah, I know, but yeah, if you could teach me how to, I guess silence him.
Speaker 2:I can teach you, Harris, If you really are interested in seeing how to actually do this. I can do this. I'm really good at this.
Speaker 1:Then, then, let's do it, we can do it. I mean, you know, my goal is for next week. Yeah, I'm going to no. I'm going to learn to actually have conversations with these people, okay, and I think I know I'm getting better from what I've heard today. Yeah, but I still have, yeah, a bit to go. Good, listen, since I'm not gonna be here, I'm getting better from what I've heard today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I still have a bit to go. Good Listen, since I'm not going to be here, I'm going to be on vacation. Tully can tell you and help you with this type of thing. Tully he'd like to learn how to have conversation with people that are actually doubting him and constantly on his back to prove him wrong.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not even like I can use Tully as a way to call what.
Speaker 2:What do you?
Speaker 1:mean call To learn to have conversations with these people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he has the knowledge to tell you what to do, and I have to, and Mike does too.
Speaker 1:When I hear myself, it's like why can't I have these fucking conversations?
Speaker 7:Why do I keep going? Who are we talking about here? No, he's talking about work.
Speaker 1:Yes, I am. What are you talking about? It's both, but he was talking about work.
Speaker 7:I thought we were talking about your dad. I was.
Speaker 1:And then we switched to work. I think the only way to get him to shut the fuck up Uh-huh is to prove I can do this See. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Here I'm going to give you a heads up. If you explain to him the process and what you actually are doing thoroughly, he will be on your side in your camp.
Speaker 1:He keeps saying he's in my camp, but he's not. He's uneducated.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have to explain hey dad. If you came home every day, it's like hey dad, this is what we learned today. Take the time and remember what it is that you learned. Did you or did you not learn something today? I did, you did. Did you take the time to explain your dad what you've learned all those times?
Speaker 1:I did when I booked my meetings. I went home to him I said you know, I booked three meetings today.
Speaker 7:No, you're not. I did not, Harris.
Speaker 2:I am not fucking saying how many fucking meetings you booked, god damn it.
Speaker 1:I even gave him my speech, harris, no, you're not saying that, you're not understanding what I'm saying, what are you trying? To get me to tell him.
Speaker 2:The education part. Okay, dad, today I had a phone call and the guy asked me Okay, he said, hey, what is it that you guys do? And you know what I did? That I rushed him off the phone and I wanted to book a meeting with totally because I was scared of telling him what to do, because I didn't really know. You know what the guys did they sat down with me, they reviewed the call and totally educated me. We even wrote out a whole speech and this is how I countered it and this is how, going forward, I'm going to know what to say. You think that?
Speaker 1:will get him to quiet down a little bit Listen.
Speaker 3:Well, no, that won't but the accumulation of those things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the accumulation, of explaining to him the process of what it is actually that's happening here. He's going to get to a point where he will not be able to understand what you're saying.
Speaker 3:Because what you're going to tell him is going to overwhelm his mind.
Speaker 2:Because he's going to be like oh, he's going to ask you a question about this, he's going to question us about this. You're going to be able to answer this, this, this, this, this and a third and next thing. You know, like Tony just said, you're going to accumulate so much knowledge that you have and possess inside of you that your dad is no longer going to have any kind of rebuttals, is going to do like, oh, wow, he's on to something. Yeah, I don't understand what it is, but he's on to something and he's going to shut the fuck up you believe me or no?
Speaker 1:I do you do, but until then I have to live with this bullshit this is why a lot of people move out. Well, unfortunately that's not going to happen anytime soon.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Because they're a fucking bunch of pussies. That's not going to happen anytime soon, okay, so I just got to stick with it. Yeah, and take it in. Take it in the ass. What, what the hell is wrong with you?
Speaker 2:From a bull, from a bull from Miami.
Speaker 1:But I just got to take it, man.
Speaker 2:You know my ultimate goal here is to be successful. You understand that. You're in the philosophy podcast, I do. When you use the words in such a way, we're going to have to ask you always what does you mean by successful? You have to give us definitions behind the words that you're using. Harris, learn, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm not asking you for a definition, I'm asking you to understand the concept of who. You're with Me, mike, and Toli has been doing this for a very long time. So our definitions of words are pretty synchronized. Not always, I know, not in totality, I know, but trust me, listen to me, this is a triangle that's pretty solid. We understand each other's words Not always, but most. It's a triangle. You come over here and use these words. We have to understand exactly what the fuck you mean, otherwise, I'm starting to understand what your words of successful are.
Speaker 1:It's not just successful in the business, it's successful as a person as well, right?
Speaker 7:And what does that success? As a person look like Having a big dick and a lot of money, or no, it's about you guys. I understand what you guys?
Speaker 1:are trying to do? You are sculpting me to be a better human being. Number one Okay, don't be a dipshit. Sure, I've learned I need to look things up before I fucking spew it. There you go.
Speaker 2:And those people who wronged you, gave you the wrong information. You have to hold them accountable.
Speaker 1:I call that my own fucking mother. Good Fake news. Good you did. I still laugh about that, yeah, but I kind of felt like a dick afterwards.
Speaker 2:Why I thought you were going to feel proud or good about it.
Speaker 1:I mean, but putting your own mother in her place, well, don't you think it's the right thing to do if she has wrong information? I was always told you have to respect your mother. You can't call around.
Speaker 7:Well, but part of respect is being honest with that person, right? Yeah, so if the person is wrong, isn't it respectful to correct them? Yeah or let them. Respectful, to lie to them and let them. Why would you want to have a fake relationship with your mom?
Speaker 1:yeah, but I always felt if I called her out, I'm disrespect, disrespecting my mother. Listen, you didn't disrespect her.
Speaker 7:No, you actually did her a favor. You did her a favor by helping her to not be a yapper like you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess I didn't get it from my mother.
Speaker 2:Remember Harris, my theory I'm not sure if it's right or not, but my theory is that we have to ban our parents mentally.
Speaker 6:Yeah, we have to ban them, we have to level up past them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and guess what? We all have this fucking shit where our parents think less of us than we are. But we need to surpass them. Yeah, we have to be better than them. That's what I. This is my theory. Go with it, or not? Yeah?
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Your choice or you're going to keep listening to them and saying that, yeah, you're not worthy of it, you're not good enough, you're not going to succeed, you're not going to ever achieve this. What the fuck? I know? You know what I'm saying. We were all in the same fucking boat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, the first week, totally told me about it.
Speaker 2:Harris, my mom is now my daughter, A very devious daughter, that's fucked up.
Speaker 1:I hope she doesn't listen to the podcast.
Speaker 2:I hope she does listen to it. You know why? Because I've been saying this to her face to face for a very long time. I'm her dad. Now, whether she likes it or not, she's running amok, she's hurting herself and I have to help her Because I know better.
Speaker 1:I've now learned that I can't live on proving people wrong. I guess I have to do this for myself. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:What that? You've concluded that so fast.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess you guys ingrained that into me.
Speaker 2:Then you're super influential, which is also crazy, which is also bad.
Speaker 1:You ingrained it into me.
Speaker 2:You got to understand that I don't want you to be influential just because we said it.
Speaker 1:I want you to take on the truth because you actually believe it. I'm starting to understand where you guys are coming from, though, so you think I'm getting prank.
Speaker 3:understand where you guys are coming from, though, so.
Speaker 2:You think I'm going to prank? Oh yeah, fine, not even that, no not even that.
Speaker 3:The levels of understanding always increase and when you understand something, you realize that before you actually didn't understand it. And then when you understand something else, like he's saying this now, but to me like there's no way he understands it, because I know what the scope is I understand it because,
Speaker 7:no, but that's I've been saying it's supposed to be. I've been setting up, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I don't view this as like people wrong, but the point where I'm getting stressed is.
Speaker 2:Is he really letting go of?
Speaker 1:proving people wrong. No, no, I'm explaining why I'm getting to this no. I've realized it's. I've been setting the goals to prove people wrong, uh-huh, and I've been getting stressed out to the point where anger has been building up.
Speaker 3:He was just trying to prove people wrong two hours ago or an hour ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I got put in my own fucking place by reading this shit and realizing I'm going to say it yeah, then I'm a fucking pussy, oh shit.
Speaker 2:Look at that.
Speaker 1:Listen, I'm happy man. Like today, I've come to the point where I didn't like the stress I was putting on myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, harris, we need to put a camera on you because the transformation is going to be crazy. Yeah, it's going to be viral. It was the stress.
Speaker 1:I've been going through these past couple of weeks trying to, I guess, prove my parents wrong, prove everyone wrong. Yeah. To the point where anger was building up, yeah, and I was getting stressed out and I couldn't stand it, to the point where I had to go outside and fucking hit my babe because I was building. I don't know how to explain it. I guess it was very hard to keep the act up.
Speaker 7:Yeah, it was exploding hard to keep the act up. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:It was exploding in that room. Yeah, yeah, yeah that I was trying to make these goals.
Speaker 2:Well, that's an honest testimony.
Speaker 1:man Like I was seeing myself turn into my father's friend, jay, and I did not like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was literally going the whole fucking time. What were you doing? He was going like when I was talking, trying to make these calls. I was thinking to myself the whole time you need to really open up to them, to these people you're talking to. You need to figure out what the hell is going on. Yeah, and I've noticed that's. What I need to focus on right now is learning how to talk to these people.
Speaker 2:Okay, so yeah, do you believe that you're in the right hands or no?
Speaker 1:Yes, I do. I'm still dumbfounded how far you've come, yeah, dumbfounded, yeah From your bedroom. Yeah, operation. To the place in the Paramus, that tiny office. Yeah To here.
Speaker 2:Paris, I didn't come here alone.
Speaker 1:No, I know that. Okay, I know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the people around me that you see help me with this process. Yeah, I get that. I know that. Yeah, the people around me that you see help me with this process. Yeah, I get that. You know what I mean. And obviously we are looking for people. It's been hard, but we're looking for the right people to join us to continue to expand this motherfucker to the next level.
Speaker 1:So what ended up happening? The people didn't stick it out, what the fuck? Or they gave up. What was it?
Speaker 2:well, no, I think that.
Speaker 7:I think it's hard to understand what the fuck we're talking about you know what I'm saying, maybe to understand that it's easier, but the implementation of it is the hard part oh, I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean, like I understand that and obviously the jury is still out on you. Trust me, we've been surprised before when Dennis joined us, when Phillip joined us, when other people joined us. We're like, wow, this is a possibility.
Speaker 1:I always thought I was a people person, so talking to people would be easy. But when you're actually trying to talk to them and explain to them, it's a totally different thing.
Speaker 2:That's why, if you can bridge the gap, you will be able to satisfy that which you always thought about yourself, and that's where you actualize yourself. And if you do, you can be in a good place.
Speaker 1:I think I need to start meditating again. What the fuck, Dolly, you're getting pranked bro. No, I'm not. I'm being serious. I think I need to start meditating, relaxing myself. Talk about a fool. I'm serious. After a stressful day like I had today, maybe I just need to.
Speaker 7:Squeeze one out. What is meditation? Like eating a pie to the head. Fuck you, man.
Speaker 1:There he is, I think Big Mac with nuggets. You know what? Now you're just fucking with me.
Speaker 7:We're definitely getting a pie after this. Don't worry, harris.
Speaker 1:But no, I think I really need to Sit down with myself and really think tonight About what sit down?
Speaker 7:with myself and really think tonight.
Speaker 1:About what Boobs and fireworks Fuck you dude About what Harris See, I can't get the curse under control, man. That's okay, you're still a little tadpole, but um, no, no, I need to do this for myself. That's what I'm saying tonight. I need to sit alone in the dark and tell myself I need to do this for myself and not for my fucking family. Listen music to my ears, harris, but I know I still have to how do I put it? Show it to you guys that I can do this.
Speaker 2:I don't want to say prove it, because that's not yeah, listen, we wish you well, we want you to succeed. Obviously, you know what I mean. We see a clear path. We understand how this type of stuff works. You know we've been thinking how this type of stuff works. You know we've been thinking about this kind of stuff for a very long time.
Speaker 1:I thought I was going to get this in a month. The smoke rising Well listen, I thought I was going to get this in a month. Yeah and a month has passed. That's not going to happen. You stand corrected, okay, totally. You stand, corrected, okay, totally, you have to say something, but I was also coming in with the expectation that you were expecting me to book all these meetings in a month or two months.
Speaker 2:That was your own expectation. Yes, okay, and now you've seen a little bit clearer of the picture.
Speaker 3:I do have one question. Okay, 61 minus 9.
Speaker 1:61 minus 9. Really.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I love the question. Are you sure?
Speaker 1:you want that number 50. 61 minus 9? Yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker 7:It's close enough, close enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh God.
Speaker 7:I realized I just proved everyone listening to this half-bucket stupid why. You already said that. Yeah, I know you already confirmed it.
Speaker 2:No, it's not. No, it's not. You know what, harris, as long as you bet for yourself, like, actually, on what I believe in, like, like what you've just been doing, I got your back in this shit and totally got your back in this shit and might got your back in this shit, but you know what I mean. Like that's it. This is like who gives a fuck about this? You know that. You don't know what 51 minus 9 is. You know who gives a fuck Because you have a bigger fish to fry that's in front of you, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Who gives a fuck. It's a hard-nosed carpet croaker. What you ever seen, that fish you ever seen a hard-nosed carpet croaker.
Speaker 2:You never went fishing for that. No, all I ever did was fish. You know what, in a small way. You know what? Listen, harris, we're not going skydiving and all this other bullshit, but we should go fishing together. I'm down with that.
Speaker 1:All I ever did was fish in a small lake, and I was not that great.
Speaker 2:Look at that.
Speaker 1:And the company will pay for it. I was not that great when do you go fishing?
Speaker 2:We go charter boat, we go on the boat. Tony's been asking for it for a very long time and this will be a good little.
Speaker 1:What is that like sea fishing? Yeah, we go on the boat. I don't know if I'm up to that point yet Of catching fish. I fucking fished in the lake and I was not that great.
Speaker 2:I was fucked up. It's easy, listen, we'll break some beers. We'll chill out, smoke a joint One minute. Oh listen, this was very insightful. Thank you for opening up and being your true self, but I think that it's a phenomenon of alright, let's do final thoughts, mike give me some final thoughts, please yeah, when we had the first pod with Harris, I think we had similar reactions.
Speaker 7:No, I think today was a firework. No, we had similar, that's why I didn't say the same. But we had similar reactions where we were like yo, where is he coming up with this shit? Yeah, you know. And um, today, again the same kind of episode. I guess I want to call it yeah, where, but even even more crazy today because of where we started, yeah, and then where we got, yeah we got which is which is it was a sick fucking circle.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I don't know. I'm interested to see where this goes. Where this goes. Yeah, me too, yeah, yeah. So that's my final thoughts Totally.
Speaker 2:Give us some final thoughts, man, because you've experienced it all just today, man you went on a roller coaster.
Speaker 1:I already know he's not.
Speaker 3:He's not going to give it yeah. Yeah, I already know he's not. He's not gonna give it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean final thoughts. Are you serious?
Speaker 3:I knew he was gonna do this you know what I'm gonna speak for, tully no, but like, like the final, like I'm not sure what you can say after this, you know, yeah you're speechless, okay, here.
Speaker 2:Sure, what you can say after this you know, yeah, you're speechless, okay, here's what I can say. Okay, I think this is a testament, or testimony, or testament not only to our abilities, right to be able to ask hard questions and to be able to like say hey, like, look, let's put the money where your mouth is you know what I mean Kind of thing and push a person to really like open up or wake up and like really think. Clearly, you know what I mean, what this fuck man I can't see on, I cannot see nate. Yo, I gotta, I gotta really text him yo. What the fuck? I've never had this feeling before.
Speaker 2:Yo, that's crazy. You know, holy fuck, that's crazy, bro, he was a fucking same deviant. How the fuck the same deviant is born within a deviant. What the hell cause? All the deviants are the same. Alright, that's a different question. What I was saying is that, like look, I guess the polar opposite of one, like you said before, mike meets the polar opposite of one, like you said before, mike meets the polar opposite of another, which is us, let's just say you get a certain type of reaction that is inevitable. For it. We have to cave in somewhere right. We send this motherfucker out to war or we send this other motherfucker on a development path to, like yo, to open up and really actualize himself. You know, and I think that's the soul, soul. If we have the ability to talk to the soul, which I think we do, this is exactly what's happening.
Speaker 7:You know what I mean? This is 100 what's happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like if we have that ability this was a testimony of that ability to be able to talk to the soul directly and then for the individual to run with it and say you know what guys, I like this shit. I fuck with this shit. I'd like to explore more of this shit. I trust you guys because I feel good about it. I don't want to fucking cut my fingers off or go to fight to war. This is ridiculous. You know my previous understanding about war statistics or jumping off out of a plane statistics. We're like what the fuck? Where are they coming from? Why was I influenced the way I was influenced and why was I making those conclusions? So now he's rethinking this stuff and coming up with his own stuff which is very good, Like very realistic, to succeed here, Right In a very realistic place where people do succeed if they try.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean there is support system that can get you there if you really want to right, like it's a much more clear of understanding of, like, what's actually going on like I yeah, I think it's um you better be careful.
Speaker 1:People might start sending their kids over here.
Speaker 7:Man, you see, you see, yeah, like what the fuck? I don't't think I think or I guess we never maybe thought about this or discussed this. When you tap into this thing of the recollection of the soul through asking questions, I don't think the person has a choice in the matter. It's not coming from fucking, it's coming from some next level fucking thing. I can't explain it in words.
Speaker 2:But you know what. But the way he's empowered and the way he's speaking now, like I'm happy for him. No, I agree words, but you know what. But the way he's empowered and the way he's speaking now, like I'm happy for him, no, I I agree. You know what I'm saying. But before it's like sure, I'll send this motherfucker to war, let him die. And like I'll move on to the next person, yeah, obviously, like I move on to the next person. Like shit didn't work out with this guy next, this didn't work out next next, yeah, sure, whatever the fuck they're doing, I don't give a fuck. I believe in the shit that's going on here. I back it. This is why I do it. The world I still believe the world rounds around this room like call me selfish, call me arrogant, whatever it is that's how I feel it's your own, it's our own.
Speaker 7:I guess you could say tiny world, yeah and it's fucking, it fucking owns yeah, because like it's the funnest shit was a sick fucking display, yeah, of that, yes, of that, of that turnaround of the turnaround, and the way that this, like the recollection, this whole thing, the way it fucking transformed, yeah, within a matter of like minutes or whatever. Yeah, this is some fucking crazy shit, bro.
Speaker 1:Well today I've learned, uh huh, that instead of saying you're gonna do something, yeah, the search up before you fucking say all right you see, and that alone is fucking as big for him, for an individual who just like spewing things left and right.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that like I, I see like I.
Speaker 3:I don't necessarily view it as like it comes skeptic recollect recollection of like the soul. Well, what is it? The?
Speaker 7:recollection is not only just him recollecting it, but it's the way that we're asking questions. I think if you ask questions a certain way and you ask the questions from the soul, which is, let's say, in touch with the truth, it's impossible for it to fucking avoid it, bro.
Speaker 3:No, I'm not sure if it's impossible for it like to fucking avoid it, bro. No, I'm not sure if it's impossible to avoid it or if it's like the like, like. I feel like the questions being asked are from like personal and like I guess, and other experiences right, like like things that have happened to ourselves or we watched, happen to to, to like to people around us, I guess.
Speaker 3:But I, I I viewed it like, like, when I think back of it, I think back of like that uh scene in the remember that movie, uh, or arthur, where he's like sitting there meditating and all the all the monsters come and that like really ugly looking monster, like appears right and then like, like I feel like in those kinds of scenarios, like, like that's almost how I view what, what was happening or how it was being like depicted to me and you just needed to wait long enough to and like that movie shows that like Nothing is it's nothing.
Speaker 1:It's nothing. So I'm going to be completely honest with you. From my time in the shelter, I had to turn into a different person. I guess it was a survival mechanism that I needed to be a guy with balls, a person that wasn't afraid to throw down. I needed to turn into what most of the people in the shelter were, which were scum of the earth, and I needed to basically fight for survival.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's how I view that moment of what was going on. You know, with the finger and all these different things, but then, like, then there comes the realization that, like there's, there's not an actual fight going on here. Yeah, right, because it's not like, um, like what you're fighting against, it's not like the people in the shelter, for example, that do believe in those things. Yeah, and you really gotta show yourself and they'll feel a particular way about you. When that monster realizes that there's nothing that he could do to win, he goes away.
Speaker 1:I realized when I went in there that I couldn't be a guy from Farallon Because I'd be eaten alive, so I learned how to, I guess, live, act Act live in that type of environment. Yeah, I was actually taken under someone's wing, do you understand?
Speaker 2:what we are up against with you now. Yeah, what is?
Speaker 1:it To break what I yes, develop did become in there.
Speaker 2:That's right, or act in there, I guess you can say that's right uh does he look different to you now or no? To become back to the natural person.
Speaker 7:I'm looking at him and he has a complete like, like I told you like I feel like you see it or no, you know what I feel like. I'm looking at him from this time like yo. He looks different.
Speaker 1:I feel like I just got out of.
Speaker 2:I'm not joking. That's how this works.
Speaker 1:I feel like I just got out of prison and I have to learn how to relive in society. That's how I'm feeling right now.
Speaker 2:Good, Okay, you see it or no, nate.
Speaker 7:Do you see him different or no? He looks less like a retard, bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, like he was acting a very particular way before you do see it.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's it. You don't have to, you don't have to you don't want to hype it up, I lived.
Speaker 1:You have to understand. I can't do this anymore. I don't want to hear it. I hear it, I hear it.
Speaker 2:I think that you play in a very specific role, which is super necessary, and I approve this message yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm saying I can't be that guy anymore. I know, I know, I think you're protecting us.
Speaker 2:I think you're protecting us, and I like it.
Speaker 1:But I lived in that shelter for nine months, yeah, and I need to get back to what I originally was. And what is that?
Speaker 2:A normal person and not trying to blend in with the gang banger scum of the earth and protect yourself and create all those walls around you. Yeah, that's exactly what I did. I get it. I mean Welcome home, harris. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel, like I fucking, I don't know, I let something, I don't know. My cape, my yeah, I don't know. I feel like. I was relieved of something. Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 7:It's like the fucking clock tower scene of the yeah, it is.
Speaker 2:It is. You want to go fucking clock tower scene of the people warrior.
Speaker 1:You want to go to the crapper? Fuck yeah, I feel like a weight, coming to realization that a weight was lifted off. I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's good. That's crazy, but it's good. I'm happy for you, yeah, listen, remember what. Happy for you, yeah, listen. This is remember what I told you about, mike. There's levels where Marcus Aurelius felt lonely. I think that he didn't have these types of moments where there is a synchronicity of understanding. Yes, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and that's why I think he felt or even made a fucking, a whole writing about it a shit that he didn't never want to share with anyone, you know what I mean it was to himself.
Speaker 7:That's right.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:My mom. My mom tried getting me to write a memoir about my life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fuck that. We're not even talking about that right now.
Speaker 1:I was like my shitty ass life.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, you have an interesting life and I think that it can be proven to be very interesting with time. If you don't go to war, obviously you end it short, you know Well.
Speaker 2:Does anybody have any more final thoughts? I think this was very good, I'm good, and maybe I started a little bit displeasing to Tully, but he ended in a much better place.
Speaker 3:It was not displeasing to me Listen.
Speaker 2:I don't know why he keeps coming out. It comes out naturally, rolling off my tongue.
Speaker 3:Why are you saying that? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Today I saw Anatoly in the morning in a very new light. Yeah, I've never seen him. I've never seen you blow your top, bro, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, and if you want to see Toley blow his top, just reach out to us.
Speaker 1:We have it on video. I never saw you blow your top.
Speaker 3:I didn't blow my top I agree to disagree.
Speaker 7:I agree to disagree.
Speaker 2:All right guys. Thank you so much. This was great. Thanks for watching.