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The Worst Movies About Texas?
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Hey there, movie buffs! Stick with us as we dissect what we think might be the worst movies about the Lone Star State! See if you agree with our take on Texas cinema offenders. Prepare for some good, old critique of Hollywood's botched attempt to capture the essence of Texas. So, grab your popcorn and join our quest for better portrayal of the Lone Star State in cinema.
Worst Texas Movies
Speaker 1This podcast is not sponsored by. it does not reflect the views of the institutions that employ us. It is solely our thoughts and ideas, based upon our professional training and study of the past ["The real culture is totally więks. Awesome".
Speaker 2The other thing I want to say is a shout out to the best half of the Pruice household, that is, mary Nicholson Pruice, who is celebrating her birthday or just got finished celebrating her birthday. Happy birthday, mary, happy birthday. I sang her a song That didn't seem to cheer her up.
Speaker 1I can just imagine it didn't cheer her up.
Speaker 2But we're going to have a good day anyway.
Speaker 1So she's almost an independence baby.
Speaker 2Almost. Yeah, i mean, it's kind of like you know the people who have birthdays like right around Christmas.
Speaker 1The worst in the world has to be having your birthday on Christmas Eve or Christmas day And a famous person on a very famous person on Christmas Day birthday Jimmy Buffett, born on Christmas Day. All right.
Speaker 2I didn't know that. That's great, you know. But independence day is a good day to have your birthday around, right? It's a celebratory, everybody's popping fireworks. It's all for you, that's right.
Speaker 1And you're out, and you were always out of school on your birthday when you were growing up. That's right. It's always a good thing too. Well, Gene, last time I think our listeners remember we talked about great Texas movies. Let's completely reverse that this time and let's talk about really bad Texas movies. But when we talk about bad, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2when we say bad, Well see, that's a good idea. I mean, of course, everybody likes movies. That's based upon your own interpretation, your own view of the movie, and I think with bad Texas movies I'm going to say this Some of these movies I've watched a lot and some of these movies I enjoy watching, but they're not good history or maybe they're just bad movies.
Speaker 1They could be both. There are some that are both. I have one on my list and I guarantee you it's both.
Speaker 2Okay Now, and not everybody's going to agree with us, That's fine, but maybe this will spark some discussion. It's kind of like beans and chili. Do beans go?
Speaker 1in chili. That does spark discussion. There are certain people that are absolutely totally wrong about that, But you know that's.
Speaker 2All right. Well, how many do you have on your list, Scott?
Speaker 1I think we can. I think Now, this is a hard one to narrow down, but I think I've narrowed it to five, although I will say right off, there's at least one category that has multiple movies in it, but I'm only going to use this one category.
Speaker 2Okay, I've got about five too, but I've got some honorable mentions or dishonorable mentions.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2All right, so let's get started. What is your? Are these in any particular?
Speaker 1order, not in any particular order. It's kind of maybe in my degree of contempt, i'm not sure about it. My first one that I'm going to put on there is one that a whole lot of people, in fact more people than not, have on their best Texas movies list. I have seen lists that list this particular film as the best movie set in and about Texas And I think it's one of the absolutely worst movies about Texas And that is the classic. And I think that people pretty much have the classic Rock Hudson Elizabeth Taylor movie, giant. I think Giant is absolutely apparent.
Speaker 1It makes me cringe every time I watch it because it is such an over the top Stott's character, stereotypical portrayal of Texans that is not even close to the reality You take and I think it manifests itself in the three primary characters. But I'm just going to pick two that are supposed to be from Texas. We'll leave Elizabeth Taylor alone. Her character is not from Texas but they're teaching her about Texas, right on this. But the Texas they teach her about is the mythical Texas, the Texas nationalism. The mythical Texas and that old West narrative come into at that time 1950s, texas, modern time The Benedict's are actually, they're portrayed as these good people, these great Texans, right, they're horrible people, they're paternalistic, they're condescending.
Speaker 1That may be accurate. Big Benedict is seemingly this larger than life. In fact it's been said that Edna Ferber somewhat modeled big Benedict, kind of on Alan Shivers. I've seen that written. What she modded on is the Alan Shivers people wanted to see, not the one who actually was, and Benedict was sort of the same way He is just.
Speaker 1It's the whole drippingly paternalistic white savior stuff that gets me in giant. So much. Besides, the whole rural agricultural myth of this is what's great. But I say my most content for the character so many people like and that is Jet Rink, the James Dean character based on Glenn McCarthy. But he doesn't get Glenn McCarthy even close to being right. Glenn McCarthy was actually had intelligent bones in his body. Wade Dean plays Jet Rink makes him out to be. I mean, i know they want to see this rags of riches and this guy who kind of gets a Benedict, but he's just a fool. He really truly is just a fool. It's just, it's terrible. And every way shape fashion of the word is true, and it culminates in that stupid ending in the damn diner where they have the fight to the yellow rows of Texas And at that point it's an over three hour movie and I've already thrown up 30 times if I watched it And so it's so giant is my worst one.
Speaker 2All right. Okay, so I know that John Careway right now is like fidgeting in his seat because that's one of his favorite movies, if not his favorite movie. So shout out to John John. Sorry about that, buddy, but not to agree to disagree on that, i don't even remember seeing it. I saw it once a long, long time ago and I think I lost interest in it. But I'll tell you what. I took a train out to El Paso back in March and we passed right through Marfa and I saw that landscape and I was like this is a, this is some desolate space out there. Yeah, it is All right. So I'm going to tell you this movie and people may disagree. I was looking at the date. This was 1985.
Speaker 2And in fact a lot of the movies that I'm going to pick on are from the 80s. And the here again is another movie. It's fun to watch, but it's a horrible representation of Texas And that is Pee Wee's Big Adventure. I like Pee Wee's Big Adventure. I mean it's funny, i mean it's just ridiculous and silly. It's very Pee Wee, but I mean the whole portrayal of. I mean it's not all about Texas, but the portrayal about Texans and Texas is you're talking about giant being over the top caricature. So is Pee Wee's Big Adventure And the woman who plays the guide in the Alamo, and the people who are on tour of the Alamo are just so over the top. Now they do have Texas accents, i'll give them that, but it's just so ridiculous. But I will say is that I have often wondered about that basement in the Alamo.
Speaker 1Gene. There is no basement in the Alamo. Ok, let's just say that right off.
Speaker 2OK, now see that ruins the whole movie for me.
Speaker 1I know It's just You did a shout out, john Careway, for that. I have to shout out to Misty Hurley, an SFA Master's degree graduate who works for the folks who run the Alamo the land office in their PR party When she used to, she's advanced her career where she's not there. When she was a guy in the Alamo, that was the question she hated the most where people wanted to see the basement in the Alamo People still ask that question.
Speaker 1I've talked to people that work there Still ask that question. He was big adventure is not a good movie. I kind of enjoyed it, it's kind of funny, but it's not a good. He Wee Herman's kind of a quartet's distancing. Yeah, he kind of is. Well, this is where I'm going to kind of bend the rules a little bit, gene.
Speaker 1We're supposed to be coming up with individual movies, but this is a bunch of movies together and they're all sequels of one. We didn't put it on our list but some people would put on their list of best Texas movies The original first, 1970, texas Chainsaw Master, because it changes the horror genre and it's a great movie. But may not know, they made seven sequels to that. All of them recently, all of them since the nineties, and they're all absolutely positively horrible. They are the worst of the horror genre they deal in ever trope there is. So my second on the list is every Texas Chainsaw Master movie, the first. They're all terrible. The worst is the one that simply title leather face and it's over the top and stupid. That's all I have to say about that is that this is how bad they are.
Speaker 2So let me defend the second one. That was the one from the 1980s, and I'll tell you why because I had a friend who was a production assistant on that And then I had a professor who's in the opening scene, so I know some people in that That was the best part of the movie.
Speaker 1We'll say that.
Speaker 2Well, you know, filmed on the Bastrop Bridge, the great bridge scene where leather faces in the back of the truck swinging And you know. so that's, there's some good things in there. You know, bastrop is kind of made a, they've got a. you can rent and stay in one of the buildings.
Speaker 1That's right. Yeah, they'll build the stuff.
Speaker 2That's right, Right. So they've kind of made a cottage industry out of that. That was a lot of camp in that movie That was, you know, Dennis Hopper and there was a lot of camp in the second one. Now, the first one, you go back and look at it, it's nothing like the first one. The first one, the Toby Hooper original I mean Toby Hooper from Austin it is scary. And the reason it changed the genre is because you don't see a lot of things, right, There's a lot of implied horror and blood. But the second one, the campy one, is a Gorefest. The first one is not, but it is frightening, and you're right, and it's black and white. It's scary, Frightening. So yes, I agree with you. I haven't even seen all of the other ones, They were just. I just don't think you get one. One, of course, for its trend setting, for its genre changing aspects, two for its funny campness, and then the rest of them I haven't even bothered to watch.
Speaker 1Oh well, i've watched just two or three of them because they were on and I wanted to see are these gonna get better? And then outside there's no use to watch anymore. The thing about the original one is so interesting leather face you actually see him in the original less than 10 minutes of film time.
Speaker 2But he's the main character now, right, What do you think? leather face?
Speaker 1Yeah, he's not. you don't really see him, And that's part of that implied thing. so, yeah, But all the rest of them terrible. So that's number two on my list, all those bad ones.
Speaker 2Okay, so here's another one from the 80s. We've talked about this. We both like the movie, but it's a bad movie for a lot of reasons. 1983's Lone Wolf McQuaid with Chuck Norris and David Carrady. I find the movie for many reasons not a good movie, but golly, i like watching it. I watched it. I probably watched it a good 20 times, but it's very. there's a lot of stereotypes in there. I mean they're supposed to be right And it's him all these Chuck Norris movies like Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, chuck Norris pushes the earth away from him. All of those jokes about Chuck Norris, they kind of come out of this type of movie and the things he did in this movie. Chuck Norris, great martial artist, don't want to take anything away from him, has been a big proponent of Texas, but I mean you can't take this movie seriously.
Speaker 1No, you cannot. But one thing about it too. Lone Wolf McQuaid first, probably one of the most successful but over-the-top Texas television series ever. Of course the premise of Lone Wolf McQuaid part of it becomes the basis of Walker Texas Ranger, which is talk about over-the-top stereotypes. But I'm with you, gene. If Lone Wolf McQuaid, if I'm surfing through the channels and it's on, i'll probably stop and watch it. You know, but it's not a good movie.
Speaker 2I almost said this. I watched Walker Texas Ranger for a long time. I actually like that series. It's not great, but I like it.
Worst Movies About Texas
Speaker 1The first couple of years were actually pretty good And then it jumped the shark with the whole Texanist stuff, i think, and it just kind of got silly after that. Well, okay, so we're to number three. I'm gonna here's another one, i'm going to almost break the rules and say that I'm gonna include a bunch of movies In fact I'm gonna include hundreds of movies in this on my worst movies about Texas and that is almost every single Western ever made are bad movies about Texas, because these Western tropes get Texas so wrong. They get Texas first off. they make Texas the center of the old West and all these things.
Speaker 1Texas never was the center of the old West. you know Texas was a Southern state in the 19th century. Nobody lived in West Texas. If they did, they were out there running lonely ranches by themselves, so weren't test. but the whole cowboy myth has to have a center place and the center place is Texas that they make it out to be, and I can't think of very many movies or movie westerns about Texans as the main figure cowboy. that got the Texas cowboy correct. now, maybe this is me being an academic egghead and I'm just hitting up against the cowboy myth so much, which I absolutely positively hate, can't stand it because it's so wrong and maybe that's what it is, but almost ever Western, ever made, and you know who's the most gene, you know who's the most egregious Example of how bad it is.
Speaker 2John Wayne.
Speaker 1John Wayne. He just doesn't for someone who Supposed to be revered Texas. He doesn't get Texas right. But maybe that's what it is, because John Wayne plays Texans as Texans like to perceive themselves to be, and maybe that's the problem. So every Western may, i think, has to go on that list.
Speaker 2Well, okay, so you're, you're, you're, you're painting broad swaths there and I, but I. So let me. Let me tell you about another movie, and I Some of these I hate to put on the list, and this is one that I want to like, but it was just not good. 1988 again most of my, most of mine, are from the 80s. Johnny, be good. Oh, that is a horrible move.
Speaker 1I forgot that was said in Texas.
Speaker 2You know and It and I'm gonna tell you I wanted to like it because I watched part of it being made. One scene, well, just one scene, was shot in my hometown and, you know, in your brothels. The rest of what I think was shot in San Antonio and San Marcos, in that area, but there was a scene shot in in New Braunfels. It was filmed in the middle of the night, right as you're coming into town, and I passed by it saw the, you know. So I was like, oh, i can't wait for the movie to come out. And then when the movie came out and I watched, i was like that was terrible.
Speaker 2And some good actors Robert Downey Jr, i mean, you know when he was a kid Anthony Michael Hall, uma Thurman I mean today These are big actors, but this was, you know, as a coming of age, it was a football movie and, you know, a high school and it was just every part of the thing was how they made movies and how they made, you know, young people movies in the 1980s and that whole genre of these youth, coming of age, teenage romps. I got real old, real quick. I mean there were some good ones, but this was not.
Speaker 1Yeah, i forgot, johnny be good took place in Texas. Question was about football. Had that high school football had take place in Texas? right, i think it kind of was the beginning of ruining Anthony Michael Hall's career to.
Speaker 1Yeah good point He didn't get some. Well, that's one I forgot about. That's a good choice. The next one on my list, number four on my list, is one I'm betting not many people in our audience has seen. It's also from the 80s, gene, early 80s, 1983. If you haven't seen this movie You're lucky, because it's really, really bad. This is the most movies as bad in almost ever aspect.
Bad Texas Movies
Speaker 1The title of the movie is hard country. All right, it, like you know, like Johnny be good, has some pretty good stars. The main star is who was a big star at the time Jan Michael Benson, the Female lead in that in one of our first movies, kim Basinger In it and also Michael Parks, who's a character actor been around forever. Hard country is the story of it takes place in Midland, texas, which like your hometown that's. You know I went to high school in Midland. They filmed the whole thing around Midland. I knew people that work and helped on the production staff and things like this and when it was gonna come out We were all Midlanders. Rick sided. It was gonna come out and they had even one of the premiers was at a Midland theater And it was so bad it was so it dealt an ever stereo. Top of text.
Speaker 1Jan Michael Vincent plays an oil field roughneck and he plays him to the extreme of every time. You would think of a Characterature of a roughneck. He drink. It's kind of a poor man's urban cowboy. I think is how they proceeded. He goes out to the honky-tonk every night to drink, you know, and he drink. And Jan Michael Vincent not a Texan Decides that they is Like I'm talking raw. Now is a Texas accident. Him Bessinger is worth.
Speaker 1She plays a local girl whose dream is to be a flight attendant. She wants to be a flight attendant on An airline and she wants to get out of Midland. Michael Park sees on when it's almost new. He sells. He sells mobile homes Which at that time was big. Was a story about that. Michael Martin Murphy, the musician He did love the writing did all the music for it And it was. It's just everything about it. It's just so bad and so stereotypical and the thing about it. It's so stupid. They film The hummus, the whole thing in Midland in the oil fields, and then a final climatic scene is Kim Bessinger is gonna leave And she's gonna get away from all this on. She goes to get on the plane and she's driving to the airport Midland past palm trees And they film that one.
Speaker 2I don't have palm trees.
Speaker 1Sadly they don't have palm trees in Midland. They don't have any trees in Midland. Really so hard country. If you feel the need to watch it, just lay down and let that need go away. It's no good.
Speaker 2All right. so I gotta say this, though one of your comments It's a poor man's urban cowboy was urban cowboy or rich man's movie well, no, but Urban cowboy was actually fairly good.
Speaker 1Hey, it was made my lid All right.
Speaker 2I'm gonna. I'm gonna throw one in and again, this is a movie I like. It is funny as anything. Maybe it's cuz it wasn't this is wasn't filmed in the 80s, this is actually from 1999, set in Austin. But you would, it could have been set anywhere And that's kind of. It's a Texas movie, but not. But nobody knows it's about Texas unless you're from there. And this is office space. I love this movie. It is hilarious. I will watch it And in fact I have, and if you've seen the movie you know what I'm talking about. I have a red stapler just because Milton has one in the movie.
Speaker 2That movie has some of the best comedic actors Steven Root, deidre Bader, gary Cole, and it even has Jennifer Aniston in it. It is hilarious. And why is it a bad Texas movie? Because it has nothing to do with Texas. Right, it's a Texas movie, but not about Texas. It could be set anywhere. In fact, you don't even know that it's set in that whole tech industry of Texas, except for the very opening scene when they're in traffic And they are driving moving along so slowly that a person walking with a disc you know a walker is beating them on their speed. That's the only way, you know it's from Austin, you go. Yeah, that's really awesome.
Speaker 1That's awesome Still has ever come. I go to Austin. I think of office space and I think somebody walking is beating me as I'm sitting in traffic parking lot on I-35 in Austin. Office space is one of my favorite movies. I watch it, I've seen it. I don't know how many times I quote lines from it all the time, For example, the famous line well, I haven't actually been missing work, which is a great line.
Speaker 2Are you gonna jump to conclusion?
Speaker 1Yeah, jump to conclusion right On that, so But yes, and many people It's worth watching.
Speaker 2It's a funny movie.
Speaker 1And many people don't realize it was filmed in office, I mean in Austin, in Dallas, parts of an office and parts of in Dallas, And made by a Texan, Oh King of the Hill right.
Speaker 1King of the Hill yeah, it's the same guy that Like Judge Judge did that. He was also from Texas. Well, my final movie on this was listen. Let's go and confess, we could have made this list very large. We've been a lot of really bad movies about Texas, but I'm gonna put another movie that perhaps nobody's seen And again, that's a good thing From the 80s. Gee, maybe we're establishing that the 80s, there were a lot of bad movies made.
Speaker 2There were a lot of bad movies in the 80s.
Speaker 1This is from 1981. And the movie is called Middle Age Crazy. It stars Bruce Dern and Anne Margaret. Again, those should be stars that you can get a good movie out of. It is a movie based on a song Based on the song recorded by Jerry Lee Lewis, Middle Age Crazy, And it's about a guy who goes through a mid-life crisis and has an affair with a Dallas cowboy cheerleader and leaves his wife in a bazaar sports car and everything.
Speaker 1And they decided to set the movie in Dallas because it's just the Texas chic time. He came out about the time of Urban Cowboy in the television series Dallas, So they're gonna play onto the Texaness of it The affair he has. He's 40-something years old and he has an affair with a Dallas cowboy cheerleader. Hey, there you go. You can't get any more stereotypical than that. So the movie's horribly written, horribly acted, horribly directed, horribly edited, It's just all. And it was a bomb at the box office. In fact, it basically in Bruce Dern and Anne Margaret's careers for a long time because it was such a bad, bad, bad movie. So middle-aged crazy is my number five, But while we're doing this, I have to have a.
Speaker 1This is kind of an honorable mention because it doesn't, can't make our list. But it's not a movie, It's a television series. But we have to mention the history channel series of a few years ago, Texas Rising. It's still terrible. Talk about mythical Texas. This is the mythologizing of the Texas Revolution is what it is And it makes it just. It's terrible. But the worst thing is the first scene of it takes place in Nacodotius, Texas, in the first episode, And in the background are tall mountains. If you've been in Nacodotius you know we don't have any mountains. That's enough to make it. I didn't watch all of it. I watched the first episode and said there's no use in me watching this anymore. So Texas.
Speaker 2Rising, i guess, the hills.
Speaker 1Yeah, hills, i guess you might call them hills Texas Rising, particularly bass.
Speaker 2You know, i think I watched the first like 15 minutes of it, and that was about all I could take.
Speaker 1It's horrible It was not good.
Speaker 2Okay, here's another movie that I like in some ways Nobody else seems to, and that is DOA, and I'm talking about the 1988 version. It was filmed in Austin at the University of Texas.
Speaker 2It was filmed in Austin and in San Marcus at South, what was then Southwest Texas State University, where I was going to school. I wanted to like it. It's got two great actors Dennis Quaid, Meg Ryan And it was. You know, it was a film noir, It was a mystery, And I think Mary was watching the original a couple of weeks ago And I said you know, I've thought to myself we ought to watch the second one, But a lot of people didn't like it.
Speaker 1I liked it.
Speaker 2You didn't like it No. I mean, it's a lot of people didn't like it for so many reasons, and that's too bad, because it should have been a good movie.
Speaker 1I like it because It would it paled in comparison to the original thing 1948 film that was so good. And I like Dennis quade and I thought this is gonna be really good. I like at the time he was very, very hot and I just thought it was just, he was terrible in it. Meg Ryan, who's about to hit shit, is quite about the same age and they have her playing like a 19 year old student. It's just right it was stupid.
Speaker 1And then his friend Daniel Stern. He's a comedic actor. He's at home alone. For God's sake, right, of course, right Now, nobody's gonna watch a gene. I'll just go ahead and spoil it. He's the guy who kills him. He's the one who put, who poisoned me?
Speaker 2Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1His friend is the one who poisoned him about there. You know he's terrible in the movie. It's just, yeah, just it just. I Don't think it's a bad movie, it's just it's disappointing and it just falls flat Or it just doesn't click. I think it's a thing.
Speaker 2All right, i'm gonna say one other. I actually have two others. I'm gonna say this, one other. This is an honorable mention. This is a movie nobody Probably remembers and it was called blue velvet.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, i love that you did I Again.
Speaker 2It's a very dark, dark movie Film part of it in Luling, austin, that area. Isabella Rossellini, kyle McLaughlin, laura Dern, dennis Hopper, dean Stockwell, i mean some great actors. David Lynch directed it right, i Just, it was just too weird and there's a weird movie, but it's a David Lynch movie.
Speaker 1Everything David like does, that's true, that's true. And it has a Roy Orbison song in it.
Speaker 2So you know that redeemed some of it.
Speaker 1In fact it was big responsible for relaunching Roy Orbison's career, really. Yes, he had stopped recording and everything And they used to his song in that film. It relaunched his career.
Speaker 2Okay, scott, i'm going to say one other film, and this is one. This is going to be controversial and we included it in our favorite films. But as far as bad Texas history, you got to say the Alamo.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, of course It's all. it's absolutely terrible.
Speaker 2And it's, but I like it. It's in both genres, it's in both categories, right, one of the best and one of the worst. And even if you want to say, well, i love the 1959 movie, that 1959, 1960 movie, john Wayne, okay, but it isn't the only the Alamo that was made. I liked a little bit better the 2004 one, but it was boring.
Speaker 1It was terribly boring. If you're talking about most historically correct of all the movies made about the Alamo, the 2004 one probably was the most. It wasn't exact, but it was most historically correct. Maybe that's what made it boring.
Speaker 2Maybe, so I think he just tried to do too much. But and of course, also the other thing I think you know they're coming into Texas, they're getting off at Galveston or Indian Ola or someplace and there are mountains in the background. right, that is also just dead giveaway. It's terrible.
Speaker 1Yes, Testa. Well, the John Wayne, the 1960 John Wayne, the Alamo, of course he said San Antonio, right across the Rio Grande. I mean, the Mexican army goes splashing across this little stream which is the Rio Grande And then you know, five minutes later they're riding up to the gate to the Alamo, out in the middle of nowhere. And even in the towards the end of the movie, when Richard Boone, playing Sam Houston, points to San Antonio on the map, it's right next to the real graph And I'm right, yeah, enough about that, you've got to get that wrong.
Speaker 2I mean, yeah, i think the Alamo the good thing about the 1959 is a good store. It's an entertaining movie And you know the Alamo of course is the background prop. But in the movie about the Alamo it really is trying to be about the Alamo And it just didn't resonate with people as much Because the story wasn't there.
Speaker 1No, and because they tried to get away from the myth And of course you know, oh my God, they made David Cross, david Cross, it'd be captured. So you can have that Right. Well, we could go on and on about these June Consistence but, like we said, there have been a lot of good movies about Texas, but there's probably been more bad movies about Texas.
Speaker 2Right, right. But that doesn't mean you may not enjoy them or they may not be funny, or funny Or serious or good drama. It's just for many reasons These have made our lists of not good movies about Texas.
Speaker 1And good listed it. So hey, that's two shows on movies. Maybe you know, maybe we start, maybe we'll come up with something. If anybody has an idea they want to have a show, have us our opinion on what people want. About our opinion, I have no idea. Let us know. Maybe we'll make a show out of it And we'll give you the royalties that we get off of this.
Speaker 2That's right. All proceeds from this, from this program, will be used to award you And, if you want to, you know, you know how to find us, how to get in touch with us. We're both on Facebook, you know. Send us a note and give us your, your ideas. We'd love to hear from you. That's right, we may not take your ideas.
Speaker 1We probably won't. I mean, we'd take your advice like we take most advice. We don't take it.
Speaker 2That's right. All right, scott. Well, thanks to all of you for listening and, scott, we'll see you soon.
Speaker 1See you later, people.
