#28 - Tangents

The podcast went in a few directions we discussed various topics related to health and movement, including:

- Quad dominance and how movement patterns can lead to issues over time 
- The importance of a thorough assessment that looks at history, emotions, and mental processes, not just the physical area of pain 
- How mentors can provide a different perspective to help people see things in a new light 
- The need for active integration after psychedelic experiences, not just a passive experience 
- The discussion of how Richard will help people integrate their ayahuasca experiences through movement and breathing exercises

#28 tangents

Summary

• Rants and rants by. 1:53
  • Welcome back to the show.
  • A quick rant about meetings and meetings.
  • Elon musk and george st pierre.
  • The algorithm of life has changed and the world.
• Where are we going to go with steak? 7:18
  • Eating a steak on friday.
  • A party on July 28 in Amsterdam.
  • Health is a party. Health is a key pillar of health.
  • The 116-year-old Italian man.
  • The golgi tendon organ, canna receptors.
  • Swami sessions and over-contractions.
• Nervous system and muscle contraction. 14:05
  • Nerve contraction and contraction of the nervous system.
  • Tendons, tendon organs and spindle cells.
  • The role of the quadriceps in injury.
  • The importance of passive stretching.
• The problem with quad dominant training. 19:32
  • A recent crossfit competition example of quad dominant training.
  • The history of assessment.
  • A large scar on the lower abs.
  • Knee issues, knee issues, back issues and arthritis.
  • Simplifying things and paying attention to the details.
  • It takes time to heal.
• Sleddrags and strength training. 25:48
  • Simple sled drags every day, slowly increasing intensity and weight.
  • The goal is to tire him out.
  • 20,000 facebook groups of 20,000 people complaining about back pain and herniations.
  • Problem solving.
  • Chronic back pain, anxiety, ocd and lack of optimal health.
  • Mentoring program, simple solutions.
• Dr. ted’s advice for people who are looking at movement. 32:46
  • Mentor dr ted uses the analogy of reality.
  • Comparison of american and Japanese children.
  • Don't get married to one methodology.
  • The fitness industry is like the food industry.
• Don’t get married to your methodology. 37:18
  • Not getting married to a methodology.
  • The cooking guy, alex the cooking guy.
  • Mentors are important in business and marketing.
  • The 12,000 takes on mentoring.
• What are your goals for the podcast? 42:02
  • Need for more dynamic content.
  • Goal is to impact as many people as possible.
  • Mexico ayahuasca retreat in mexico, the mountain.
  • Three days with movement and swamis.
• How to prepare for a shamanic experience?

Transcript

Unknown: 2:48

Oh wait, I'm ready to run

Dr Ed: 2:58

been. Microphone Are you on

Unknown: 3:02

this? Summer what are we talking about? Oh, I can talk about my assessment maybe like weird fan because that look good. Yeah. Beautiful ready Hey, we're back with Mr. Ed, no guest today just lots of rants and excitement I don't know. We got all kinds of cool shit going on.

Dr Ed: 3:58

I like to think I like to think that everybody just like had to like pull their headphones out when you shouted bam and the episode started and they're just like, surprised by it.

Unknown: 4:08

Jump makes it more fun.

Dr Ed: 4:12

I just want to do a quick rant about people having meetings to discuss discuss things that need to be done. Yeah, just meeting and talking about the things that need to be done for two hours

Unknown: 4:27

gets done and

Dr Ed: 4:28

nothing like the people being Oh yeah, I don't have much time to do these things. This is a very common thing that happens in conventional medical and academic worlds that really annoys

Unknown: 4:44

happens everywhere, doesn't it? We

Dr Ed: 4:46

must must do. Doesn't happen in the in like, the productive places. I think like the people actually. I can't remember who says like, keep meeting so like 10 minutes or mosey? I don't know. If

Unknown: 5:01

Gary Vee, Gary Vee and Elon Musk will say Don't waste time. With meetings.

Dr Ed: 5:08

What do you think about the musk? Zuckerberg fight?

Unknown: 5:13

I think it's epic. I love I love internet trolling.

Dr Ed: 5:16

It might be in the Colosseum in Italy.

Unknown: 5:19

There's no this is all fucking propaganda bro. It's so not happening. I I'd rather watch the Robert Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Peter Peter Moses who it is. Oh, yeah. I'd rather watch that debate then. Moskin. Sucker Berg fight. I think sucker would would win. Sorry. Like the dude's jujitsu. He's been training you to soccer version probably kick my ass. jujitsu. He's actually winning competitions. He

Dr Ed: 5:55

I don't know who George St. Pierre is. I think he's uh, you

Unknown: 5:59

don't know who George St. Pierre is no should i He was. He was like a he's a great martial artist. He is a UFC fighter and champion for a while. I'm not a historian. So don't don't quote me on any of that stuff. But that's where I got the the pillars of a coach came from George St. Pierre and the Joe Rogan podcast, but he was talking about athletes and kind of martial artist that each that you have when you're a martial artist, you're either a stuntman, you're a philosophers like the Sensei, or you're the scientist that wants to have you know, all of the studies and everything done. So same thing with he's a he's a he's a great martial artist. I mean, he was a great fighter

Dr Ed: 6:37

when he's coaching Elon Musk.

Unknown: 6:39

Oh well shit alright so that maybe there is a chance that like

Dr Ed: 6:42

like Friedman just put up a photo of him and George St. Pierre, and musk.

Unknown: 6:50

In tight tops like my coffee mug.

Dr Ed: 6:56

People like coffee which is just drinking out of the French pressed Yeah, like granules in the

Unknown: 7:03

do just to on makes it makes you stronger. It's good enough for plants. It's good enough for me. Well, yeah, I don't know. I mean, that'd be kind of a fun thing to see these billionaire tycoons just kind of go at it. Why not?

Dr Ed: 7:19

Well, it speaks to this idea that the algorithm of life has changed and the way that you change the world is through gaining attention. Yeah, like, and they, they're just playing this. I mean, Elon Musk thinks we live in a simulation anyway, so he's all about just what can we do that's most entertaining, which I think is great.

Unknown: 7:43

Yeah, I mean, are we in a simulation? That's a good question. I mean, technically, yes. Or life is a perception. So don't waste time on meeting people. You're in a simulation. Go enjoy it.

Dr Ed: 7:56

Yeah, I agree with that one.

Unknown: 7:58

I think so. I think I'm gonna start so if you guys followed my Instagram Stories, which I mean, yours was bigger but not thicker. I came up that should be in a really fancy statement. Here's was bigger but not thicker.

Richard Aceves: 8:14

Where are we going? With steaks. Last Friday, we we eat cooked steaks which I think that yours was rushed your the way that you cook your steak, but I've been craving like a thick, just delicious steak for a long time now. And so I finally got it because one of my buddies here in Amsterdam left his barbecue grill in my house. So I was like, Ooh, that's the perfect time to go do a nice steak. So they don't want to do like a Friday feast every Friday and I'm just gonna take my time and spend more than half the day just preparing and making sure like, you know, dialing down the cooking. Maybe invite some people, maybe if they bring their own food. I cannot cook it like we share like kind of potluck style. That's been in the back of my head for a little bit. But anywho Yeah, Friday feasts. Enjoy.

Dr Ed: 9:07

We can do it. Although Friday is usually a busy workday for me. So I don't have the whole day to prepare, which is usually why my sticks are rushed.

Unknown: 9:15

Yeah, but that's then do something else on Fridays, bro. Yep, you shouldn't rush like it's a beautiful piece of meat. That was a big T bone steak you had there? Yeah, no joke piece of how much of that did away

Dr Ed: 9:34

I think it was almost a killer.

Unknown: 9:36

Oh then I won mine was 1.6 kilos. Not that we're not that it's a competition.

Dr Ed: 9:41

It was. I mean, I had to cook it. I went in the store. I wasn't going to get steak but it was like a third of the price like markdown. So it's like well take that

Unknown: 9:53

when July 28. I'm doing a party and in Italy if you can fly down.

Richard Aceves: 10:00

Well, I'm not doing a party. So remember last year, I think I sent you the pictures of last year's Yeah, the village party. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's our party and my dad just invites the village. And now people like people are coming from Amsterdam this time around and from all over so if you want to come down, or anybody wants to come down July 28 Send me a message. Let's have a chit chat. You guys can come in. Well, I'm gonna probably be cooking for around 7080 people doing like big pumpkins with cheese and garlic and big steaks and sausages and skewers. It's gonna be delicious but anywho

Dr Ed: 10:34

That's great. Yeah.

Unknown: 10:38

I guess we should be talking about fitness see things because we should niche our market into our fitness see things and health. But health is a party isn't it? You can enjoy a party and still have a routine and I think

Dr Ed: 10:50

that idea of having the whole village together to enjoy food is like a key pillar of health.

Unknown: 11:00

Right? Well I keep seeing like everybody like if you drink a glass of wine you're gonna die and all the old people in Italy keep drinking a glass of wine a day and they're older than everybody else. And I was having cigars Did you see that one I sent you guys like I smoke every day. It's like 116 years old. Listen, bro, and that dudes probably enjoying the shit out of life. That's that's one of the things where it's like I've seen so many extremely healthy people that eat the right things, do all the right things and they die so young. And then I see people like that 116 year old guy or you know, just like in the village that were out in Italy.

Richard Aceves: 11:38

Just having white wine for breakfast and having a great conversation at the local bar. Like eight in the morning, which is hilarious. Which is probably not the norm. But you know, like you still see like these older people, they're having wine in the evening and socializing and enjoying the simulation that we live in. So I think it's a funny thing every time that I have these you know, you shouldn't drink more than a

Unknown: 12:03

a glass of wine every three weeks or don't drink at all and it's toxic. But it's been a big part of our social history. As far as healthspan goes, yeah.

Dr Ed: 12:15

I think being fully fully you in your environment is

Unknown: 12:22

important. Yeah, not doing a stag where you're just chugging beers to chug beers. We got to limit extremes. We got to test the extremes, right? Yeah. Yeah. Anywho I have been doing some interesting studies and reading on going back into the health side of things. The Golgi tendon organ. Yeah, which is Canna receptors, which is going to be on the call. This one's different. My mentoring program, but the interesting stuff is now going into the spindle cells and then inside of the spindle cells got a heat all these fucking terms. There's like these neural neural something cells that are like seven to 13 strands that send communication within the spindle cells to the Gogi tendons to the brain to act. And I had a question last week of somebody that was trying to figure out why their pecs couldn't fire even though they're doing all these exercises. And they did a sandbag carry and then finally like the shoulder relaxed and so you know, outside of doing all of these cycles, where you were able to really truly change the perception that the muscle can handle the load and not need to turn off these the my quest my answer to her was, you need to soften your contractions, which doesn't make sense because every time that you hear about getting stronger, you need to like contract very hard. And that's one of the things that I see the most of when people are doing Swami sessions. It's like they can't just like like, just slowly get into it and be kind to themselves and find the contraction even if it's a minimal contraction, they feel that they immediately need to go from zero to 100. So that is, for me, a mechanical receptor, which means that the body is you know, observing the information coming in and immediately as they start to go hard, it's a it's a reactive system showing you that the system internally is not safe. So we see this a lot when people have a hard time doing Swami for more than two or three minutes or staying quiet or being in their own zone. They can't be with themselves and I think the muscles also speak to that effect. So when they're trying to over contract, it's so that they can immediately displace the tension physically and shut off the muscle. And that's when you start to see the tension go into the neck or the hips. Yeah, neck, hips, mainly low back mid back a little bit.

Dr Ed: 15:00

Well, yeah, I think is I mean, I don't know how much of this has been modeled I'm sure it has but when, when a muscle contracts or when the body is moving. The nerves themselves also contract. Like there's there's a contraction and an expansion of the nervous system which is controlled by the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. Sure, I'm sure that if you over squeeze and muscle, you try and really force neural output then it's influencing that balance between the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems, which then probably just shuts off, higher up saying, Oh, no, we don't want to stretch the nerve too much because it might pull out essentially, like the horrible stories of people who are like trying to jump onto a train and they like, grab on but it's already moving too fast. And it like tugs their arm and then the nerve just gets pulled out at the root. So they just lose. Yeah, horrible. Lose like function. That sounds horrible. Yeah. This is the problem. When you spend time in medicine. You're like, Oh, I just have nightmares about these. Random stories

Unknown: 16:13

are really gonna kill you.

Dr Ed: 16:17

Yeah, super interesting. i The tendons Golgi tendon organs and spindle cells was something we covered in first year of medical school. And I remember one of them is, if you think about it as an electrical system, one of them is wired in parallel, and while one of them was wired in series, and there's something in that probably to do with resistance and how they respond to stress. I haven't revisited them a long time. So I'd be interested to hear

Unknown: 16:52

Yeah, it's gonna be Yeah, but I've been really playing with it especially

Richard Aceves: 16:59

looking at hip pain, chronic hip pain, sciatica, and talking about inflammation and the overloading of the system. So if you overload the system, because you're objectively training, that tension needs to go elsewhere in order for the, the tendon and the muscle to protect itself. And so more these because then you start to read about the different afferent and efferent muscle fibers. And so, you know, essentially when you're doing functional fitness, or strength training or you know, endurance training or sport specific as yawns, you know, playing football the body needs to survive the task and these muscles are given. There's better muscles to use than the ones that you're supposed to be using, if they're not strong enough. So, for example, the body will revert to going towards the

Unknown: 18:00

the quads rather than using the hamstrings because the quads can tolerate a lot more intensity. So you can actually tolerate a lot more intensity into the quads than you can in the hamstrings. So what that means is that when you start to get fatigued, you're gonna go to the quads, the hamstrings are gonna essentially slowly start to turn off more and more, because it is a reactive mechanism, and it's a predictive mechanism. So it's predicting that you're going to be overusing you know, your your legs, and so therefore, you're gonna start to go to your quads because you started to train and you aren't capable of running your 5k or 10k or you know, going into a marathon, which most people are like, Hey, I'm going to sign up for a marathon even though I've never conditioned or learned how to run properly. So now the quad start to take over, which means that now, you're actually going to start going towards a squat movement pattern, or a jumping movement pattern rather than actually a hinge gait. And your so as major will start to turn off the iliacus will start to work more, you will start to arch your back more. So now you'll start to lose the capabilities of using a transverse abdominus which therefore starts the work the mid back, which eventually go to the lower back and the, you know, the lumbar rector's and then you start to have the discomfort of the hips, the low back the knees, because the quads and the lumbar rector's are doing the work and the four pack or the six pack if you will, the rectus abdominus are doing the work of the hamstring, the so as major the glute max, and then eventually you'll have a herniation or inflammation that will start to happen and and aggravate the sciatic nerves or more down towards the perma Dallas in the groin, and the front of the hip. And so it's it's a it's fascinating because the way that they're fixing or treating the symptoms is by passive stretching, which just allows the quads to relax, which is what I've been saying. You're giving false sense of safety and you're reteaching the system to be more and more reactive each time because you're sending a sense of safety without actually strengthening what needs to be strengthened the proper muscles and so essentially, once you start go back to your running or you go back to your lifting or you go back to your sport, you're gonna go back to these reactive mechanisms the body going Holy shit, we've been here before it didn't work, but and now we're feeling safe, but we haven't gotten stronger. And now we're getting injured. Yeah, I was at a

Dr Ed: 20:27

two or three weekends ago, I was at a CrossFit competition. And a guy I know. He was lying on the floor after a workout that involved sandbags for a fair distance. And other people were like, oh, you should, you should get into like you work his magic on you. And

Unknown: 20:51

you're a magician. You're not a doctor, you're a magician.

Dr Ed: 20:55

The number of times I've had a conversation with this person and with other people as well, who label themselves as quad dominant. Yeah, and I say you've trained yourself that way. And that's not a beneficial or like, there's not something that you can't change like that has happened. And it should be a warning to you that eventually that's going to cause issues happen now that you're in the middle of a competition. And you can't parry a sandbag without immediately using your back. And you've now got to do a an event with a worm as well and it's going to be miserable. And there's there's no magic wand that I can do it in five to 10 minutes of you the change are the first going to change anything that you've done for the last five to 10 years of your life. Yeah. And I think that's that's an important part of this story is these are all adaptive mechanisms and it takes a fair amount of effort and time a for us to identify them. Because you've been doing this for a long time and we're only just discussing it and B to then teach you to stop doing what you've been doing what you've been doing. Yeah. Interestingly, as well, the the assessment that I just did this weekend. This goes to show kind of part of the assessment goes back into the history which we've discussed before and you coach people on your moved Academy How to approach an assessment and that we start with the history. And in medicine, we always say that you can gain most of the information that you need from the history. And in this case, I didn't do much of a thorough history prior to the session and then during the session, I realized that this person had a particularly large scar on their lower abs all the way from their belly button down which is going to have massive impacts on movement. So all of the patterns that you talk about, or just just listed, are all going to impinge on low abs and if they don't, they're going to go to the upper abs in the fall. So it was nice because they came to me with a problem that they weren't convinced could be fixed. And I'm not always 100% confident but seeing something so big like that, and such a weakness and a lot of amps and the obliques gave me a bit of hope that actually there's a lot that we can change and a lot that we can strengthen and a lot that we can peel back these layers that will change the movement patterns quite considerably.

Unknown: 23:48

Hmm. Yeah, knee issues or back issues.

Dr Ed: 23:54

Yeah, knee knee issues that initially came from an acute injury that lead to a tear of the meniscus. And then when they went in to fix the meniscus, they saw nasty arthritis and have decent going arthritis to the point where they've been. The surgeons have said we will do surgery, which is unusual, because in most cases, they'll only do a surgery if it's impacting somebody's ability to sleep. But in this case, it wasn't impacting the ability to sleep. So again, it's another for me it was another threshold at which we'll maybe there's a movement based solution to this right, at least to try and they were very keen to find a movement based solution. It's been going well, yeah. So far, so good couple of days. off

Unknown: 24:49

he's still alive yeah, it's a no Yeah, I mean, things are they can be so complex, but in reality when you just simplify them and and especially for clients, right, like it's, it doesn't need to be anything crazy. You just need to have the details and pay attention to them. And I think that people just get so comfortable in falling back on what's easy, rather than doing what's right for the client. Because it takes time I think that's the biggest thing is between you and I like we understand it's gonna take time and we don't try and bullshit that, hey, we're going to make you feel better in a day. That's like the one of my clients from Germany that has the herniated disc. And you know, it takes time and we're going through cycles, but cool thing he's down to. He was taking 800 milligrams of ibuprofen every night, and he's done a 200 milligrams of ibuprofen. And this has been a week and, you know, low discomfort. We do get sciatic pain still coming in. But it's a lot more it's a lot less intense. as it used to be. And he's back to moving and training, which is, you know, what everybody told him not to do. And so the fact that he's able to train and move and still have less discomfort than before. For me, that's a huge win. The body is still trying to figure out what's good and what isn't good and so as I mentioned earlier in the podcast, it's their predictive mechanisms. So they're observing what's going on and they're trying to protect themselves because they don't know the changes that have that are happening yet. And they're trying to make sure that they're safe enough and confident enough to continue to move without needing to protect themselves. And that's where I think the the key is is we've been keeping it very simple sled drags, everyday sled drags the sled pushes. Slowly incrementing more intensity and more more weight. Swami I just I put the the hamstring ISIL holds and stops and push up so that we can get some upper body and get the full connection. And we start with that for the next you know, four or five weeks. And then from there, we start to build into other exercises. I'll do Karis, and we'll start to you know, implement some of the other more dynamic exercises

Richard Aceves: 27:18

but it doesn't need to be extremely complicated. It's going to take a little bit of time for the body to adjust. And for it to not revert back to what it was, which is, you know, lots of discomfort and pain and 800 milligrams of ibuprofen every night. Yeah, and I

Dr Ed: 27:34

mean, I'm I Intuit this by wonder, I mean, even he probably doesn't need to even take the 200 milligrams, it's just that that complete change in belief system. Yeah.

Unknown: 27:48

We'll get there slowly but surely.

Dr Ed: 27:50

I mean, but the cool thing is that to and fro, you know,

Unknown: 27:53

we have the like, you see the sled drags, and you can tell when there's competence in the sled drag and when there isn't. And so the goal right now is to tire him out enough so that he can just do the movement without freaking out about the movement because right now it's he just gets stuck mentally. And the the left side doesn't quite know how to how to move with confidence. So there's still a lot of questioning from the body and the brain, shall we say? And as soon as you can implement enough stress, the body goes to just actually moving correctly because it's, you know, it's just learned learns very quickly, and discomfort goes down. So this is the perfect case. And this is what you see with me, you know, I've been some of these Facebook groups of 20,000 people complaining about back pain and herniations and what do I do and what do I do this and all of the solutions always come with minimal stress, stretching and relieving the symptom but not actually curing the the root problem, not changing the root problem. And so that's where you need the additional stress. We cannot displace the tension from the stress. And people keep wanting to go the passive way, which is again, making false sense false signals of safety through shit couch stretches and all this other bullshit, which is fine if you absolutely needed in the moment to release the discomfort. But then you need to correctly change the movement patterns afterwards, if you need to reteach the system, how to be healthy and safe. Yeah, I work

Dr Ed: 29:33

well, I've progressively started working with more entrepreneurs and and business individuals and CEOs and that it's essentially like presenting them with a problem and saying, we need to solve this in order to make the business more profitable and them saying we just won't solve that. Right, which is not how it works, and usually they find a way they're very good, analytical individuals that are good at problem solving. And in rather than hiding away from the problems, they seek out the problems. They build their own resilience and strength at solving those problems, which opens up a complete new arm of the business, and then they can move through that barrier. And actually, the good comes from that. There's always a to and fro. You can obviously present yourself with a problem that's overwhelming, but that's where we come in as coaches and as mentors to give people the stimulus that's necessary for them. To make progress but not to detract from your progress.

Unknown: 30:40

Right. Yeah. 100% I mean, that's why I went to and got my mentoring because I suck at being a salesperson. And they're, they're kicking my ass man. They're like no, but you need it. You need to point this stuff out. And I was like, No, I get that but I just I don't I don't know. And they're like, believe me like yeah, it's it's a it's a whole world right? Like we we're here to help people because they're too deep into their belief system. They're too deep in the forest, staring at trees and not understanding the full picture of their health. And I think more so the health in the long term. Especially for those that have gone deep, deep, deep into the jungles, and now they don't know how to get out. Right. And so it's like having the chronic or acute back pain or the anxiety and OCD or you know, any sort of disorder, or, you know, lack of optimal health for you to run your business as the CEO. At some point, you start to get into this paranoia IK solution based. Let me rephrase this, you start to get into this paranoia IQ finding a quick solution to the symptoms rather than getting yourself out of the forest. And so you're basically stuck in the middle of this forest, going around in circles and you end up in the same exact position every three to six weeks, or every three to six months, which will eventually be every three to six weeks. And you just keep circling back. Trying to find simple solutions or passive solutions to ship that you understand requires a lot more work and if you're not willing to look on an outside perspective, if you're not willing to get the helicopter ride out of there to see how deep in the shit you were, I don't think I think that it's going to be a very long road for you to be able to finally ask for help. And you know, to hit that rock bottom I mean, that's that's kind of where I was with all I'm like, I have all the content. I've built everything up all the education, my knowledge, I've invested everything and I'm like, How come people aren't joining my mentoring program? And the first thing he, I mean, it's just the simplest solutions. Like when I told him I was like, why can't I get out of back pain? I'm like, Well, have you tried finding your hamstrings and your so ask? It's simple, right? But he was the same thing is like, have you tried texting people or your followers on Instagram and seeing how they're feeling? I was like, No, I've never done that. They're like, so you just expect people to be like, hey, Richard has some cool content. I'm going to sign up. I was like, Well, that's what I wish for. Which I'm sure that people have back pain. You're like, I just, I'm just gonna not have back pain. That's cool. It's very easily said right. But you doing these actions, these super small tweaks, you start to see these changes like oh, okay, it's not that difficult. There's not that overwhelming. And you start to build out from there. Yeah, there's a

Dr Ed: 33:41

so Dr. Ted, who's one of my mentors, who I've mentioned multiple times already. Is he ever going to come on the podcast? Oh, yeah, I'm gonna ask him if he'll, that'll be cool. Come on. I think it'd be great conversation or at least a lecture from him. But he always says that. A mentor doesn't necessarily tell you anything new. They just let you see things from a different perspective. And he uses the analogy of reality. We are always looking through one face of a diamond and you can just spin the diamond and look through a different face. And that allows you to change your perspective in a similar way that psychedelics or maybe movement I Alaska is able to do for you as well. Yeah. And he also talks about this example, they did an experiment where they compare, I think it's American versus Japanese children, and they get them to describe a painting. And the American kids say, oh, yeah, there's three fish. And the Japanese say, Oh, it's a picture of fishbowl it's in this setting. And there's three fish ones at the top ones at the middle ones on the side, and that's in this colored water and there's a like a castle and the Japanese children have this much more broad background. View. And the American western world just looks at the foreground immediately to try and jump ahead and it goes back to that analogy of kind of seeing the wood from the trees and seeing where you are in the forest. And again, that's something that with an assessment through your health assessment of clinical metabolomics we look at all of these markers, we don't just focus on a few health markers. We don't just optimize your testosterone level. For example.

Unknown: 35:34

I just want TRT bro. Just gonna be the trend

Dr Ed: 35:39

and with you doing a movement assessment if somebody has knee pain, you don't just look at the knee, right? You look at all of the muscles. You look at all of the mental processes that that person is using and doing and you look at all of their emotions and their responses to the exercise that they're doing. And as soon as you miss any of those elements, then you become somebody who's just pushing your agenda, the same agenda.

Unknown: 36:08

Yeah, it's the beauty of that is you know, like Gary B's Gary Vee says don't get married to your social media. Like don't get married to Instagram because you never know. If tiktoks When we bump in or a Facebook or Twitter or, you know, Twitter. Instagram is about to launch the Twitter's rival apparently. So, Elon and sucker Berg are not just fighting on the mat. I think they're gonna be fighting in the web's as well, but it's the same thing with with movement, right? Like we seem to get married to one methodology. And that's for me, like the last like I have people are like, Oh, what do you think about the wet method? And what do you think about the check method? And you know, there's all these methodologies they all have their, their amazing golden nuggets and their, their, their place in the health and fitness industry. It's about understanding where they came from and understanding the history and understanding the principles that they're using. And you know, more so than anything, then being able to apply them yourself like when you look at the like, I always compare it to food scenes, right? Because it's you know, I feel like it's a the principles are the easiest translate the most easily translatable. The craft of, of a chef is the same as a craft of a coach right? You start off as a prep cook. So you start off as wanting to go train and work and this and that. And you start to build your way up the line just like you should in the fitness industry, build your way up and find coaches and mentors that are able to elevate your game. And it's a beautiful thing, but it's when you start to get married and you get stuck in the same restaurant or with the same chef without ever learning new things. That's when you're gonna get stale. I mean, we're always learning looking for new things whether it's through you know, different thought leaders in the in the health and fitness space or in other other you know, other areas that could translate back into into the fitness space in the health space. You need to not get married to your methodology and there is not just one answer. The key is that there's so many different you're playing you know, these kind of multi dimensional chests with the body. And you need to be able to understand it from very different perspectives. So just being stuck to what NASM is saying and disregarding what the Shaolin monks talk about with the human body or the Taoists is ridiculous, you know, not being able to understand the history and what true yoga is trying to convey and people and then how that relates to Pilates and how that starts to relate to martial arts and wrestling and, you know, being able to use the clubs and then going into weightlifting and then going into strongman and, you know, there's so many disciplines for coaches to never get bored and always continue to learn that, you know, I'm not saying I'm the ultimate mentor, but if you want to come join my mentoring program, you know, there's there's just so much out there and if you're not constantly gathering new information and playing with it, then it's it's, it seems ridiculous, like I never expect anybody to stay with me. If I'm no longer providing value to them, you know, and that, that's what the what makes it so great is that we're always learning communally because I have coaches that, you know, have been with me for four or five, six years. You know, we've known each other since 2019 2018, one of those years, and, you know, there's always these things. You're like, Hey, have you looked at this? I was like, oh, that's super cool. Let's talk about it. And you know, I do that with a lot of other coaches and the fact that we can share all of this knowledge and all of this wealth I'm just giving my approach to it and my philosophy behind it, so that you can start to understand the recipe. And then from there, you can add in your own things, you know, it's there's this YouTube dudes called Alex the cooking guy, he's awesome. This French guy, and if he ever gets to listen to this, I would love to come cook with you in Paris. Just a quick shout out just in case you never know. But he did a Fettuccine Alfredo. And he did like the original recipe, which now I'm really tempted to go I'm gonna probably try this out on my Friday feast, if anybody wants the OG Fettuccine Alfredo. But then at the end of it, he kind of put in his own twist of fresh herbs and some black pepper, which would kind of make a casual puppet but not the point. But he says, you know, you need to understand the history and the fundamentals and the principles of what this classic recipe is with his mother recipe is and then from there, you can truly make it your own. And that's the thing with movement is you've learned a lot from me, but you're still applying small things that you have learned along your own experiences. And that's what makes it great. Because no matter what, we're making people better, but we're not disregarding and we're not allowing we're not just regurgitating information, hoping for results. I guess what I'm trying to say was a whole lot of grant, I don't know I lost a dude,

Dr Ed: 41:14

which is what Brian was going, which is where a lot of people start need to start but I mean, even getting this is the reason that mentors are important. Because they spend the most time honing the craft. So for example, the people that are helping both of us with the business and marketing mentoring. I know how much constantly they're having to update the way that they work with clients because the algorithms on all of these different social media platforms and the way that people market is changing all of the time. And you can say, Oh, I know what I need to do. But eventually you need to put more time into the thing that you're passionate about and you're working on all of the time. If you if you knew enough about marketing and business, you'd be doing that as mentoring as well.

Unknown: 42:04

Right? Yeah. Which is why I don't because I fucking suck. Like, dude, you just you just gotta put on the camera and just tell people what their problems are and your solutions. I was like, Dude, I get it. And then I said to the real like, I wasn't horrible, Richard, but if you could just start to change a couple of things. Can I even even put it on AI I tried to get AI to write to me a script. I'm not it didn't work out so well. I'm still working on it. I'm gonna it needs to be done today. I have a deadline for that one today. So I'm gonna be doing my 12,000 takes on trying to convince people to come to a mentoring program.

Dr Ed: 42:41

You need to go to like a local school or college and search for somebody that can be your full time videographer and they just follow you around. Yeah, I need to find that makes everything way easier. Yeah, I

Unknown: 42:58

suck at in that that's one of my biggest things. I suck at just putting the camera and filming. That's why I like the podcast because I feel like we can get into rants. And then I just can clip them out and put them up. But yeah, I need I need some more dynamic content. But whatever

Dr Ed: 43:12

I really hated having when I did the assessment with Johan on the last episode and filming you came to just watch and he didn't know they were going to make a real I did this assessment on Saturday just gone and I completely forgot that it would be useful to get this stuff on. Yeah,

Unknown: 43:38

I always forget. I did the assessment. The put the ALPA I have to put the I filmed part of it. But I forgot to put the reel up it's sitting my computer. But yeah, it was the guy's like, Oh no, you should probably film some of this for some content. And I was like, Oh, that's a good idea. But I get in my zone. Right and that was one of my goals for getting when I got my business mentor. Limitless we'll give them a big shout out because they're awesome with Elliot and Jonathan and Josh. But they're they're amazing. I need help with that stuff. Because that's not my thing. And when I talked to Jonathan, and he's like, What are your goals? I was like, my goal is that I don't have to be doing any of this stuff that I can spend time working with coaches and working with one on one clients and doing what I enjoy doing, which is being with clients and giving talks and working with people that's really the biggest thing that I want is I want to be able to be working with people I don't want to be building landing pages and dealing with funnels and all of this stuff. I just want to talk to the coaches. That's that's what I care about. But a big crucial part is having the funnels and having the landing pages and making sure that everything's cohesive. So that's the biggest reason I got them and I'm working with them is because I want to make sure that I can impact as many people as possible and I can grow moved Academy so that we can have you know as I've talked with you, you know, building a place for MDS to come and learn about movement and how important it is for health and how it can you know, better clients or patients outcome outside of going to the hospital and getting pills and you know, just start to build a great community of coaches that want to educate others. That's the goal.

Dr Ed: 45:22

Yeah, we'll definitely have we've had earlier on before, but it didn't really talk much about the military. Yeah. But maybe we can have John or Josh or whoever, come on, and discuss these concepts for our listeners. And also, when you hear that dog barking is really annoying. No. Good. It's put me off. I was gonna say now,

Unknown: 45:48

son of a witch, who I wanted to go back to talking about the psychedelics and you're talking to Dr. Ted I don't know if you know this, but September 2, so it's September 4 to September 10.

Richard Aceves: 46:03

I got invited, I'm going to be I don't even know how to put this. So there's a retreat happening in Mexico. It's called the mountain and I'm basically being put on

Unknown: 46:17

along with the shamans that are doing this entire five day Ayahuasca trip so they're starting with combo which is the frog poison or the frog stuff. And then they're doing so basically, they're ramping people up as this very well known shaman that's going to come and do this stuff. And then the founders of the of the retreat, contacted me, they're like, Hey, we've heard what you had to say about movement ayahuasca and it's very interesting. We've really enjoyed the content. So we started talking so I'm going to go in, and essentially, we're going to start with movement and Swami, some grounding, and almost start to give people a little bit of a direction as they start to go into their into the ancestral medicines. And then they're going to be coming out of these ancestral medicines, and then I'm going to have three days with them to give them tools and understanding of how the body is relearning and readapting. So when they go back into, you know, their home base and into their regular environments, they know how to cope with everything that they've just lived through with the with the experiences they've done with ayahuasca and all the other ancestral medicines. So that should be pretty exciting. Yeah, that'd be great. I mean, if you want to come let me know if you can come out what were the dates? September. It starts September 4 to the 10th. Mexico City. Milo, Milo is going to be there. Yeah. It's always fun at my lows there. We should actually have him on here. Yeah, he did. Good. So maybe a good good question. Asker.

Dr Ed: 48:09

I think anybody would be a good question. Asker because then they'll just come in with their own perspective. And we can.

Unknown: 48:15

That's true. I will have to have one. But anyhow, so I'm excited. About that one, because I think it's a cool merging of, you know, disciplines. But we had a call last week. And it was it was beautiful. I got to meet the shaman Humberto who's going to be running running the retreat. Well, I'll be running alongside with him. We were making the plans and everything. And it was just such a cool kickoff of ideas of him explaining because I'm not very I need to become a lot more familiarized with all these ancestral medicines. But he was basically explaining the what the body is going through and the type of trip that they're having and what they're opening up inside. So and I was going through it from, you know, the nervous system side of things and what the body's really experiencing and how it's trying to learn and the gates that are starting to open up so we started talking about doing different pre workouts like well, different workouts before they actually start to take the medicine to really hone them in and get them mentally prepared. And we just started to talk about like the different breathing exercises, you know, that have been done for a very long time, and how all of it starts to really play so I think it's gonna be a really cool collaboration to be able to see how we can really use breath movement connection, but then also give that after effect of what do we do when we get back home and you know, real life comes back at us because we can't stay I think from from the

Dr Ed: 49:45

stressors, right, very important part because a lot of the people that go to the ceremonies are expected to be a passive experience. And it really isn't. The the integration part also needs to be active. Yeah. And if it isn't, it can just worsen issues rather than improve them. So I think,

Unknown: 50:02

yeah, especially now that it's, it's, it's all trending. So it's just like people just want to go for the experience. And that's what he's been saying is like I've been having a lot more people are just having bad trips, because we try and talk to them before they go into the trip. And we start to talk about what's going to happen in the experience. And people are just there to try and have a good time. But if you're like extremely highly if you're extremely highly if you're highly anxious, or if if you're not really zoned in on what you're going to be working on. I think that it can become extremely overstimulating and probably not the best time of your life. So that's a that's something that we'll we're going to hopefully play with to really allow people that if they don't feel that they're truly centered, then we can give them an alternative through movement and different breath and sound waves and sound baths. I think they're called. That should be fun.

Dr Ed: 50:56

Did you record that conversation?

Unknown: 51:00

But it's in Spanish, okay. Otherwise, I'd send it to you. I mean, I'll send it to you, but you'd have to get better at Spanish. Like you could Google Translate i Yeah. Yeah, Google should have it.

Dr Ed: 51:14

Imagine the script AI conversion. Spanish to English.

Unknown: 51:19

Change all the mouse movements. That should be good. They should have it by now because Google has the headphones that translate in real time.

Dr Ed: 51:27

Yeah, I'm sure there are some

Unknown: 51:33

bam, yeah, bro. So that's that's the life that's where we're at right now.

Dr Ed: 51:38

Different things in one conversation. And that was a

Unknown: 51:40

whole lot of tangents. I don't know how I'm going to name this one. tangents and keep it simple.

Dr Ed: 51:48

Yeah, that's really selling something. Yeah.

Unknown: 51:53

We'll see how many relay downloads. We get all our 10 fans anywho

Dr Ed: 52:01

let's see when Jon's free and he can be maybe in the next episode.

Unknown: 52:04

Yeah, I like it. I'm gonna go to the gym. I'm gonna go work on some fun new ideas that I have in my head. Bam, diggity. Thank you very much, guys. Make sure to follow along on Richard severs.com Dr. Eide caddy.com at Rib Barracuda at Dr. Ed Cata. You can find us on LinkedIn, Instagram, tick tock on tick tock, tick tock. They're all the same thing. Just pick one and stick with it. I'm not at a level yet where I can have different content for different platforms. It's too much work. I just want to work with people. If you guys need help with anything, please reach out to us. I'm more than willing to get on a call with you have a text conversation with you. Give you some pointers if you need serious help reach out to your medical console consultants are how do you say medical professionals or if they're not willing to help reach out to me, but it'll just be advice and I'm more than willing to help always and forever. Try to provide actual solutions to your lingering issues. Anywho Have a good one guys. Talk to you later. Roman the coffee always helps. I try to find this plug in microdose mushrooms now that pocket I'm just going to do some rum. That's the same as microdosing. Yeah, I do this thing. It's a delicious it's iced coffee, honey and rum and you put ice in it and you blend it like a slushy. Yeah,

Dr Ed: 53:44

cool. I'm gonna go for Disney December. Run I think it's

Unknown: 53:51

gonna go good on the belt squat machine. Oh, my legs a little bit. You cool up? That microphone went away. That's fine. All right. broski. I'll talk to you later. That was one

Dr Ed: 54:06

found out when John's around. Yeah. Oh,

Unknown: 54:09

are you getting a date for me? Tomorrow is what already late says Wednesday. Some other metric program calls in just one discovery call it like 4pm today or tomorrow, tomorrow. So we could do around the same time, like 1pm or noon. I think it should be okay. Cool. Ask him. Later, bro. Do it