The Richard & Dr. Ed Show
The Richard & Dr. Ed Show
#34 - A recap of the last 3 months
This podcast episode summarizes Richard Aceves and Dr. Ed's activities since their last podcast in August. They discuss Richard's assessments, seminars and experiences in the UK, Iceland, and Australia. Richard shares insights he's gained about how emotions are stored in the muscles and controlling DMT release through breathwork and movement. They discuss building coherence across body systems and the benefits of psychedelics when guided properly. Richard emphasizes creating safety to allow vulnerability and resolving issues actively rather than relying on external fixes. Overall it covers Richard's ongoing efforts to understand the body and help people through addressing the whole human experience.
Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Richard and Dr. Ed show. It's been a hot minute, to say the least, how we're doing that.
Dr Ed:I'm very well, I was actually just checking when the last episode that we released came out. And it was the 23rd of August. So the next thing that happened after that was you coming to stay with me and doing our seminar in the south of England, and since then lots of stuffs happened.
Richard:It's been a whole lot. So it was, yeah, essentially, I went to the UK, we did the first kind of the Richard Dr. Ed gathering, which kind of gave me the idea of the emotions in our muscles workshop. That a lot of assessments. And then after that, I did a lot of assessments and then went to Iceland, and worked nonstop for a full weekend. And then came back and then went to Australia. And now we're here, there's been a lot of work, there's been a lot of epiphany moments. I think when I'm on my creative wave, I sometimes forget about the social media and the recordings and all of this and I start to kind of go into my own world. But yeah, let's kind of do a little bit of a backtrack. So the Richard doctor had gathered was great. I think we'll do a lot more of those. We'll have California coming up December 2, which you will be there, we'll have a lot of the moved Academy coaches attending as well. I think I've nailed down the hierarchy of contractions, and understanding why the information is stored in the in the muscles, or maybe how it's stored in the muscles. Maybe that's a better a better understanding. I don't know, who knows why. But we still got to dig a little bit deeper on that one. But yeah, so anyhow. And then we went to Austria, I went to Australia did moving Ayahuasca with eight people. And I think that's where I had a big epiphany on actively stimulating or releasing DMT in the body. So I've been experimenting with that, because I've had it happen with clients before where they have kind of these experiences, where they can either go into their body, or they have these visions or replay events and experience these events again. But now I think I'm having a much better understanding of how to create a proper protocol to actively allow people to get that release that DMT release and kind of get an understanding of where they are.
Dr Ed:Yeah, I was. I have a lot of people asking me like, how does Richard, see these patterns. And if you put it into context, since September, or since our last episode is three months, and within that three month period of time, imagine you've seen more than you've probably done close to 50 assessments, if not more individual people. In fact, definitely more than that. And then if you translate to the number of hours or minutes watching different people do just as an example, the SWAMI to somebody that's only just seen a swami only just learning the SWAMI for the first time. Seems very simple. You just breathe, right? And then when you just relax, that's all you have to do. And then when you get to the amount of minutes and hours that you've seen it, there's always levels and we're always searching for levels to make more levels to Yeah,
Richard:it's a I was doing the math in Australia. And I spend on average, 20 hours doing and analyzing people during Swamy, which it's a lot it's a part time job, essentially, at least in
Dr Ed:Australia, or
Richard:Yeah, like in Australia, I was just like doing the math. Australia was doing between three assessments a day movement, I wasn't we had eight people, you know, and you know, through those three days, we're doing probably about close to six or eight hours of Swami depending. And yeah, I just kind of, it's not just doing the exercise and ticking the box like I, you know, I let the body buffer but I'm always looking for very specific things. And then I'll have kind of my epiphany moment, which will be a client that comes like a brand new pattern. I'm like, wow, that was interesting because they were at the extreme of that pattern. And then I just start to test it over and over and over again. So my eyes just gotten very, very good at what I'm seeing and it's a it's the fact that we're using an active approach, meaning that we're allowing the person to choose to be active or passive and then, you know, seeing where the body is holding on to tension. I think that there's little micro spasms that a lot of people don't pay attention to, or they're just looking at the body laying there in a position. So they get bored very quickly. When I see little small vibrations at the throat, little tweaks at the hip, or the torso, the knee, the foot, the ankle, you know, all those things are a telltale sign. And that's what's allowed me to, just by being able to see a person how they hold tension, tell me a lot about their body, or being able to speak to them being able to tell them a lot about where their body is holding on to tension having pain and discomfort.
Dr Ed:Words like I mean, maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit, but the for the moved Academy, we have now some formal instructors. Yeah, and we get feedback from them on including me on little things, even just today, somebody mentioned a little thing they were noticing happening at the foot on the right. So it's, uh, after learning from Ted, who, again, in the time that we haven't recorded an episode, or went to the first health optimization medicine symposium and spent a lot of time with the founder, Pioneer visionary, Dr. Ted, and he has some very similar concepts, as well. And I got to talk to him about some of these things too. But having a the way that moved. And the way that you work is nothing is right or wrong, it just all feeds itself an ecosystem. So we look at the body in that way. But we also see the people that we work within that way. So there's no competition between the coaches, they're all just learning and giving to each other, to help everybody get better as as a system. And I think that's why we are going to spread like wildfire within the fitness industry, because all of the coaches in the fitness tree are basically competing with each other to try and overtake each other. But they don't actually understand these principles, well at all, if, if at all,
Richard:benefits health, for sure, it's a I mean, the human body is a beautiful ecosystem. And we have coaches that are great at memorizing information and regurgitating it. But not truly understanding or practically experiencing these concepts that are being thrown out there. You know, and it's a lot of work, like I'm looking at, where your heart rate is, where your body is, where the tension in the body is, you know, where you are, as far as like your state in the nervous system, work brain networks are you jumping through when you zone out, when you don't zone out? There's so many small details to work with you as a human and connect with you as a human. From the physiological, the psychological and the environmental, right. And so the goal of moved is to evolve the fitness industry to where it should be. And you know, 2024 is going to be the year where infamy information is free, if it's not already there. So what pisses me off is that people that are very good at marketing themselves, you see them, and it's this is me off, because I suck at it. But they just regurgitate information without caring of the human that they're trying to help or not help. They're just wanting to make the quick nickel the quick sell. You know, and if it's triggering you, it's probably because you don't understand the fundamentals enough. And that's why it's being triggered because I'm, you know, it's triggering as an insecurity for you. The goal with moved is to not have a used car salesman at a gym, but to have a luxury brand at the gym. Right? The luxury brand understands its true service and what it's bringing to people. That's what I want to do with coaches coaches are they're seeing clients day in and day out. It's not about getting bored and just giving them a program or an exercise to get the results. It's about connecting to the human that's in front of you. And then understanding what system is not going to the same rhythm as the other systems and make that system run more fluidly. And sometimes Yeah, it is with movement. Sometimes it can be with nutrition, it could be with sleep, it could be with light, it could be with with audition, right with with sound. We have a lot of systems at play, and as soon as one is out of whack, it starts to throw the whole body out of whack. So what drives me nuts is when you as a coach, try to just get the quick sells because you have insecurities or your egos a bit stricken, rather than really spending the time and devotion and developing your craft. And that's all I tried to do. Every single day, I'm still a student, I'm still learning, I still send you questions all the time. And that's the whole point of moved is, I am as powerful as my team. And as my coaches, because the more questions that they bring on, and the more that they challenge what I'm doing, it's not for me to put my guard up, it's for me to go, if I can't explain it simply enough to them, then I don't have a right in teaching it, because I don't understand it well enough to make it a practical experience for my clients. And that's, that's the goal of moved as we need to elevate the the way that coaching is being done with AI coming out, you can go on any AI service and say write me a 30 day program, and I'll write you a 30 day program, I'm sure you could probably write the method that you'd want to choose. I just want to fucking make badass educators and mentors that can truly help humans to whatever their better performance is, right? Create safety and competence first, always.
Dr Ed:Yeah, it's, um, it's a few things to round those thoughts up is I started taking on a few clients from fitness industry background. And I can see how impatient, they, they want me to give them a program to do this, this this this every single day. Right, it changes every day. And they have these sets and reps basically have, this is how you reach the goal of being healthy. And I can see the impatience is something that they struggle with, when I give them something very simple to give me one piece of feedback on but I never get the true feedback that I'm after. Because they think it's just doing the exercise and ticking the box. So Right. And again, this is my role in this is to try and bring people on to a more health orientated mindset. And I think the things that you talked about allowing the system to build its own coherence and talking about the individual humans is something that going back to what we started talking about, that emotions in our muscles seminar was your framework and how you explain that to people that had no concept of any of the things that we've talked about before. And going back to the basic principles, giving them theoretical amount of practical experience of those things. So it made sense. And I've had people that came to that, still coming back to me and saying, Oh, I remember that. And I experienced this. And now it makes a bit more sense. Now that time has passed. And they've again, integrated that information, knowledge, wisdom into their day to day life, and notice that they quit in certain ways or are unwilling to go to certain places, or have found that they can subsequently go there now.
Richard:Yeah, and you know, that's, that's always the, the biggest thing is like, there's no proving the right or wrong, and there is no, no good or bad. It's just it's how your system has learned to react to stressors. And, you know, that's the beauty of movement is that it shows you and it encompasses exactly how you quit as a full human being in any over stressful situation and any stressful situation that you cannot handle. And so that's why you know, we have all these kind of principles and guidelines that we go through, is because for me, it's I want to keep it as simple as possible. So that my client that you know, has already had 10,000 things on their plate doesn't need to have another 10,000 things more. So if I can do something that's as simple 123 steps, and it's consistent, then we can start to build up on on his knowledge bases, interoception and all of this, but it's a crazy fallacy that people spend years, right, we've spent years upon years trying to study and understand the human body. And you want to be able to have that information in the next five to 10 minutes. It doesn't in the next hour. Like I spent nine months doing so as rays. And I teach it at the seminar. We were like I don't feel anything and I was like I just told you it took me six to seven months to feel the actual connection and understand the displacement of tension. I've spent 10 minutes teaching you and you spend three minutes doing it like what do you expect is going to like it takes time on urine you have the information now. It's it's now a part of you to take that on and continue to learn and process. And you know, I have clients that do listen. One of my favorite ones is Katie, just because, you know she came to me and she's been having shoulder pain for a long time. And shout out to Katie, you'll get to meet her in NorCal. But, you know, I gave her four exercises to do. And she has done them five days a week, every single day without a miss. And we're on like week nine or 10. She says me like weekly updates. And I haven't changed anything. Because she's already training. She's already moving. She's doing everything else. So the interesting thing is now she's snatching without pain. Now she's doing competitions, toasted bars, everything without shoulder pain. So something as simple as the physical side, right? You could see that the the confidence built up because there's better engagement of the locks, and so on, so forth. So, again, the physical components in the physical movements will directly change how you perceive the world and how you perceive yourself.
Dr Ed:And I think I said this before, going back to Dr. Ted and call Kristin did a podcast. And essentially, the point is, what's the difference between a human who has knowledge and the an AI system who has the knowledge that all humans have as well is the fact that humans can move so they can gain data from other environments, whereas an AI has to rely on somebody feeding it data for the moment. So without the movement, you can't change your perception. Right? You always have the same data coming in. So yeah, it's,
Richard:that was the like, that was a big a big takeaway from this last movement. Ayahuasca was the giving, it wasn't even about changing perception, it was about giving them perspective. I think once you're able to give the person perspective, that allows them the choice if they want to change their perception of themselves or the world around them. And so it was, you know, each time I say these things, and then sometimes I still get stuck as we all do with the ego wanting to prove something. And the better I can kind of take the ego away and just really allow the person to gain perspective of where they are on that day. And again, not for the better or the worse but if you give them perspective of why they're quitting or how they're putting mechanisms are right meaning you're quitting on it at an anxious state you quit out of frustration state you quit out of boredom, you quit out of overwhelm. You know, you have a physical quit a heartbreak, quit whatever it may be, that starts to give them perspective when they go back into the real world. And that stressful situation comes back, not from doing you know, deadlifts, or sandbags, or cleans or carries or anything like that. But it gives them perspective, like, holy shit. I remember Richard told me that I used to quit by justifying all of this and having this sort of mental narrative of justifying why it's not important enough. And now they start to actually learn now there. That's our true perspective. And that gives them the power to change the perception by changing how they react, or how they act right, depending on what's a new random variable that they're trying to play in.
Dr Ed:Yeah, Dr. Ted always says the goal of a mentor is just to change the perspective because everything else you can just Google both GBT now, exactly.
Unknown:Check. Well, the guy's gone from chat. GPT that was I mean, wow. And so it's all falling apart.
Dr Ed:Exciting. Which goes to show the human element is the important part. 100 cool. So I mean, we didn't really say that much about the, the seminar, but there's another one coming. So if you're interested to understand these concepts, see you in California, it's gonna be fun. That'd be great. Super Training gym. So it's a mecca of fitness to some people, I would guess. I
Richard:would say for a lot of people. I mean, even the block has a slingshot. Shout out to mark Bell.
Dr Ed:It surprises me when some people don't know who Mark Bell is. But I guess
Richard:there's a lot of throw up. I met somebody they know who Rubin was. And that's even more shocking. Yeah. Because they were in the health industry. And I was like, Oh, yeah. And they're like, I have no Guberman it sounds like that's interesting. Like his stuff. Yeah. Anywho. So movement, Ayahuasca Australia. I started to play around with
Dr Ed:DMT thing.
Richard:Yeah. So. So I sent you a message. And I was like, why are people having these visions? And I don't know why I started to get on this kind of DMT road. Again, I think that a lot of the stuff that people do is a passive tic to try and change something by trying to force change from an exterior perspective without actively wanting to change. So they hope that the Ayahuasca gives them clarity as an example, right? I'm not against a WASC or anything like that. But they're hoping that the Ayahuasca gives them the clarity to change without actually knowing what needs to change, or an ice bath, or you know, any of these things that they're opening up a lot of doors the same time that for some people, it may work great for others, it's overwhelming, and again, goes back to a quitting mechanism, and a pass away. Anyhow, back to this thing. So I started to look at the DMT. And I sent you a message, I was like, part of the components of DMT are in the brain, part of the components are in the lungs. You know, we started talking about frequencies and oscillations and kind of putting the whole body into the same rhythm, which is what I think starts to give the DMT psychoactive capabilities to become active in your body. And
Dr Ed:maybe for context. DMT is Dimethyltryptamine. It's the active ingredient in the iOS plant that has psychedelic effects because of its actions on probably five HT to a serotonin receptors in the brain, probably all cells produce DMT, in small amounts, some areas of the body, like the brain and the lungs produce a bit more. It's likely the thing that causes us to have dreams and visions when we're asleep, because it's a metabolite of melatonin, which is our hormone that signals to the body to rest. But yes, I interrupted, you
Richard:know, that's beautiful. I need the smart people in my life. So that was where I was like, okay, so what if we can get this, if we can get the DMT to activate? At at will, right, so by doing the work, and so we started, I started to kind of play around with the idea of the breath work starts to oscillate at a certain frequency, we have like kind of like the chakras that all run at a certain frequency, you have your heart rate that goes at different frequencies, depending on the expectations, you have the muscles that can contract, based on how much tension or force the body feels it needs, but also based on how safe or how much action the body feels it needs to react to. And so for me, it was like, okay, so I started to just play around with all of this plus the music. And it was interesting, because the Ayahuasca plant, right, if I'm not mistaken, there's the root, and then there's a bark, and they mix it together in the water, or they make the tea and then you drink it, but they also have you fast, and they have you have it's mainly a vegan diet, which I think would actually have a lot more powerful was protein diet, that's just just kind of looking more at the or maybe it'll be less aggressive with the protein and actually more flowy because then it's not, it's not, it's more going towards the parasympathetic with the with more proteins and fats than just pure.
Dr Ed:The classical reason for the diet was to remove Well, they didn't know this, but to remove tryptamines. So they are metabolites of certain foods, like cheeses and whatever that can impact the metabolism of the tryptamines. Okay, so it's a way of influencing the liver. So the second component of the iOS drink is a liver inhibitor, so it prevents the degradation of, of the DMT containing thing. So it allows it to last for longer. So in the ceremony goes because DMT itself has a very short half life.
Richard:Okay. Interesting. Yeah. So, me not knowing any of this, I decided I'm gonna play around with what I think might work. So what I did is I did an entire fasted day and movement Iosco where they did a they did their morning stuff. They came back they did Swami. Then we did a hydration cycle where we did water, electrolytes and some honey. And then we did some movement. We did more hydration, and then we did Swami again. And so I've been playing with it now and I've seemed to have when I have the kind of proper dosages like when I hydrate people correctly. It was interesting. And I did this myself several times. Now, you have this notion of interoception. And what some people describe when they're like looking inwards, then they can see everything. You see life events, but it was interesting because they all had a colored hue to the visions or even if the eyes were closer is like a color knew that would come over. And as I was doing it and asking them afterwards, the colors shifted as I aligned them up with my little neck toggling, which is a little Swami trade secret. But the colored hues seem to go directly, they seem to be directly the same colors as the chakra points as they went up towards the crown, which was kind of cool. So now my biggest I'm playing around with a couple of different things have a heart rate to connect to chakra points. So the amount of excitation that you need per chakra, I think is going to be correlated with the heart rate. And that energy system kind of releasing or that amount of information starting to release. And yeah, I think I think I'm getting closer to explaining why I call the experience movement, Ayahuasca even though we don't take ayahuasca, but I think it's because I have the capacity to let you experience an active DMT trip, which is obviously not as psychoactive as having the plant and having that massive amount of dosage. But it does let you have a lot more control, which I think is necessary in order to have a cohesive system, meaning allowing the body to resolve what it needs to resolve first, before just opening up the floodgates and trying to resolve everything at once and having clarity, and then taking action on that perspective, I feel that a lot of people choose not to take action on those perspectives or that perception change. And then you end up going back as soon as triggers come up with stress, the triggers will come back and you'll go back to normal behavior within a year and a half. At least from people that I've talked to.
Dr Ed:Yeah, we really need to have a good chat, or I need to brush up on a few things, but it just made
Unknown:our car ride. That's true.
Dr Ed:Because the some of the conversations I had with Ted was about raising neurotransmitters in a balanced way as opposed to in an unbalanced way. And fasting itself raises dopamine, because it's a drive to go seek food. It's a it's a good way to like people do dopamine fasting, which is removing all of these stimuli and food being a good one. And obviously, exercise sunlight, you're in Australia raises serotonin. So I wonder if by fasting, you can raise the serotonin and dopamine almost in a in a balanced way. And then you're impacting norepinephrine and the other systems by doing natural movement and bouncing the blood pressure up and down, changing the heart rates. I'm sure there's something there. But it's more complicated than just me trying to guess. Right?
Richard:The X I mean, even if you look at the gauntlet, right, like, it's your heart rate goes up and down and up and down. And you know, you're basically going through all these cycles, and different quitting mechanisms, but you're being forced to stay in it. Excuse me, so that's a it's interesting, I think I'm becoming a lot more it was a lot of energy having eight people in one room and ayahuasca but I loved it. And it was, it was beautiful. Seeing the cohesiveness of the group being in one house. It was a very diverse group, which was awesome, because it's, I think as a as a whole, you would never guess these kinds of eight people would come together. And not only did we all come together, but we shared food we shared you know, great chats, like the the experience itself was just absolutely beautiful, I think is part of the part of the charm of doing you know, some of these retreats is, especially like with moving Ayahuasca make sure that it's catered, and everybody's kind of taken care of, at their, with whatever they need. And more importantly, that their expressions are really coming through. And it's funny now I can I can read people pretty well and when I put my lenses on, so I could see I made a bet with Rach with rash who's uh, you know, she's going to be in charge of the moved chapter, column chapters. I don't know why it sounds cool in Australia, but it's a I made a not a bet but I was like, I literally gave her like, an order of who's gonna get the most out of the Ayahuasca experience out of the out of the experience and who's gonna get the least and I was right I'm not that crazy
Unknown:it was beautiful.
Dr Ed:Very cool thanks to say but they've gone from my head after that.
Unknown:Oh, sorry. You should just speak up just cut me off do oh yeah,
Dr Ed:that's what that's what was gonna say the speaking up thing. So the cohesiveness that you're talking about? I mean, look at, like Joe Dispenza started with, like maybe hundreds of people now he's doing his meditation retreats with, like, 8000 plus in some cases, right. But I think there's definitely a case for when everybody's breathing and moving in a similar rhythm, the rhythm start to align, there's probably benefits both for you and for them just being around other people doing it in a for those for similar reasons. And as another thing I talked to Ted about as people think that they need to go travel and look outwardly to find themselves, but most people have the same needs and wants, and the fact that they all seem very different. Once you get them kind of going inwards, a lot more, you see that they will very similar hover and zoom
Richard:in, that's the beauty of traveling the right I mean, the travel, yeah, can be used as an escape mechanism. But like going to a completely new environment, allows the super ego to relax, and the ID and the true self to start to sort of come up know, something I was just had a chat with. And we're talking kind of like the, you know, the true self, the EDD the ego, the super ego. And the environment plays such a big role. Because if you've been brought up to really force and be complacent to the super ego, you suppress a whole lot. And so allowing a new environment that gives freedom to the ID to a certain extent, I mean, it literally explains why you would have cults, right, because they allow you to recreate your, your identity, and express the part of the ID that's been so blocked by the super ego. And of course, they always take it towards the very spiritual and kind of abusive side of things. And that's not what I want to do. But it's the goal is, you know, we were able to have this, these amazing sharings of stories and just vulnerability, not by forcing it and getting like these weird, awkward sharing circles. But just because it naturally allow people to feel safe and relaxed enough to share. Yeah, like, I'm not a fan of like, let's sit in a circle and tell me your this or tell me your that. Like, I'd rather just sit down and let's just start having a good conversation, and let those barriers drop. So if I can prove to you that I'm just as human as you are, and we just start having a nice conversation, it drops down these walls of you know, because even if you don't think about it, you still want to a lot of people would want to answer how they think they should answer. So as soon as I start to, you know, have a nice whiskey or something like that, you know, the first night we're having some nice wine. And there's some people that are that didn't drink, and it was perfect. I was like beautiful. Can we get to like a mocktail? Or shall we do something and you just start to have the sharing the sharing at the table, which allows the barriers to drop, and it doesn't need to be this. I am this, you know, this guru on this pedestal? Because that's also one of the reasons that people will quit and not actually have a true change, because they put things on pedestals.
Dr Ed:Yeah, I had some experiences, I won't go into the specific details, but there are some hypothetical benefits to the psychedelic molecules, that when used in a coherent group of people, this is something I want to do a bit of investigation into a group that are already coherent, and then you introduce them. The, again, the the egos are down, or those barriers are down. And you find that people give each other therapy without even knowing. Right. Which is something that I hypothetically observed.
Richard:Yeah. Well, I I think that that's also I mean, if you'd look at your barber, like I have conversations with my barber that I probably wouldn't have with anybody else. I mean, there's no psychedelic molecules being introduced, but it creates a sense of safety. Right so it's, it's that it's, you know, going back to Keith and having like this full wraparound like psychedelics or not, you need the body needs to feel safe where it is. And if it doesn't, it's going to spruce up and kind of you know, react a different way or react in the house. Should we call it at a Son of a biscuit, an autopilot. You know what I mean? Like it's just it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna go back to what if what it knows how to survive best. I hypothetically not. Hypothetically, I had a great time we went out dancing When I and I went out with Chris, are you remember Chris from going to law school in Amsterdam? Yeah. And he's, you know, he's always looking everywhere. I'm very protective and everything. But it was just him and I, we went out and I was like religious dance and have a good time. And we had such a great time because he didn't have to have he'd like, we kind of, I think that we've been locked in a in a time capsule. And we think that we're young. So we shut up to this club. And it was like all these like teenyboppers are like, Oh, this is not cool. But we ended up having a great time, you know, drinking some tequila and dancing. And that was, yeah, that was good. He was passed out, close his eyes for a couple of seconds. But it was, you know, it just if you can give people the confidence to feel safe, and feel vulnerable, then they can allow themselves to truly express and that goes for, you know, relationships to work to anything, anything in any environment, right is the key is creating the safety. And when we, you know, again, not that I have anything against psychedelics or micro dosing, I think that should be done correctly with the right people to help guide you and everything. But if you start to rely on these more and more, like I just saw somebody's going for their second their second ceremony in a year. So it's like, okay, so when is it gonna become the third ceremony in the year in the fourth term? Like, is there is there, how much more enlightenment do we continuously need to have, right? And what what is changing what isn't changing. And again, if it's like enhancing your experience, and so on, so forth, like nothing against it, but when it's being sold to people as the cure all and your your soul, and your spirits going to be cleansed and this and that, I think that they're miss, it's a misguided sale, it goes back to just the information and not the knowledge. And so that's, that's the biggest thing is I think you need to have the right people guiding you. And it needs to be done in a way so that you can positively adapt to the stressors in your life, not as a way to keep handling less and less stress by going back to more and more microdosing.
Dr Ed:That's the thing. That's the I mean, you've talked about various practitioners, with me, who keep removing a lot of the things that causes them stress, quite significant things. And if you, again, keep reducing the amount of stress that you can tolerate, you just can't tolerate stress anymore, actually, so it's something to pay attention to. And that I mean, that's how I got into working with Elliot from limitless by convincing him that there are ways that we can improve the body's ability to handle stress and not just take away stressful things. But those things have to be done actively, consistently, for a long
Richard:period, because stress is never going to go it's part of being a human. Like, it's interesting, even there's some breath practitioners out there that are now going against the the, what's it called the Wim Hof, where you're basically putting the whole body into the sympathetic state. Because it doesn't work, because then you start to have panic attacks for no reason. Because you're not actually going into a stressful situation, you're putting it on a pedestal every single time.
Dr Ed:Yeah, I mean, it's,
Richard:there's a place for it. And don't get me wrong, but there needs to be a place for it. And you shouldn't be all on board on it, and selling it to all your clients, if you don't understand the other side of things.
Dr Ed:Right, because there's always both sides of the equation, the yin and the yang. And there's a there's a new guy that's coming into the lab, like work in here who's a breathwork student who his own story of, he had a chronic fatigue type thing. And then similar, he got, I think, more unwell using the Wim Hof and then found found some mentors that introduced him to this other type, which was actually the inspiration that I had to mention it to you with the coherence and different systems. He was actually just in Amsterdam, which is a shame you guys because
Richard:the body works together, we need to have coherence within your whole body. Moral of the story,
Dr Ed:but there's gonna be some cool stuff happening in the next couple of months. Probably the next couple of years and decades as well. But
Unknown:it's just the beginning. Gonna
Dr Ed:be a good, good month to feel moved and for us,
Richard:and we'll start doing more podcasts. We'll be together for a couple of weeks here. So we'll set up the camera, get rockin. I'm going to have to get on to a call here that I forgot about because my skin drilling is always not the top tier level scheduling.
Dr Ed:But anyhow, and tomorrow there's a move to call for everybody. I don't know if it's performance, but
Richard:we'll see what comes out. But if it comes out and you want to jump on the move, call add one. Tomorrow at 6:30pm Central European timezone Amsterdam time. Send me a DM on Instagram, Facebook, email, any of those. And if you want to join, there's another one on Thursday at 10:30am Central European Time. So for you guys in Auslan or Asia. That might work better. Cool, beautiful. Awesome, guys. Thank you very much. Make sure to follow along. Subscribe. Follow us on Instagram. Follow us on Twitter. Follow us on LinkedIn. Reach out races. You guys. You want to hear about Yeah. Beautiful. Thank you guys have a great one.
