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Choosing the Perfect Running Companion: Apple Watch vs Garmin
This episode delves into the comparisons between the Apple Watch and Garmin running watches, highlighting their distinct features, strengths, and weaknesses. We discuss the fundamental differences in design, battery life, analytics, and music integration to help listeners choose the right watch for their running needs.
• Overview of smartwatches versus running watches
• Apple Watch capabilities and limitations
• Detailed analysis of Garmin’s running-specific features
• In-depth comparison of running analytics and training feedback
• Discussion on battery life and usability during workouts
• Music integration differences between Apple Watch and Garmin
• Future trends in running technology and device integration
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So you're thinking about running but not sure how to take the first step. My name is Brian Patterson and I'm here to help. Welcome to Brian's Rompod. Well, welcome back to Brian's RunPod and I'm your host, brian Patterson, and well, in today's episode we're talking about two titans in the running watch arena. We're going to be looking at how Apple Watch and Garmin compare, and I know some of you lucky people this Christmas because this episode has been recorded just after Christmas may have had vouchers for running shops or maybe had some money and looking to your running gear to give you a much more analytical, experienced running to add to your running. Basically, so much more detailed data to have a look at your running and see if that could help improve your running. So, anyway, I know there are other manufacturers which are out there in this space, but I thought, for the purpose of this podcast, I'd just cover these two. Now, I am an Apple Watch user and will try to be as objective as I can be with reference to comparing these watches, but I do see some of my friends that are runners. I do see the Garmin on their wrists, so it could only be fair, just to cover see how this compares to the watch that I have and see what are the pros and cons for each of these manufacturers.
Speaker 1:Now, first of all, let's look at the smartwatch versus the running watch. I just want to say first of all that basically what we're going to do is we will kind of have an overview of how the smartwatch versus with the running watch. We'll also be looking at the design, health and fitness. We'll also be looking at the design, health and fitness, battery life, running and athletics, gps accuracy and music integration Plus. Also, you know what's the future of running tech. So, because obviously this space will be evolving, as will people be wanting more demands on it, and also technology is evolving. You know already. You know we're looking at talking about artificial intelligence and how that can be incorporated into the sort of the technology we're wearing. Anyway, let's get into it.
Speaker 1:So the fundamental difference between smartwatches and running watches I know it seems a bit obvious lies in its primary focus and intended use. So smartwatches, like the Apple Watch, are designed as a tool for everyday life, so offering a wide range of features beyond fitness tracking. They're easily miniature computers which are on your wrist. I mean it's just amazing. It just blows my mind that 10 years ago, the technology which is on my wrist just probably wouldn't didn't exist. So I remember using the Nike app when I first had my iPhone and I thought that was amazing that you could track your runs that way. So they typically have features that have the ability to make calls, send messages, voice assistance, access musics and make payments. They include fitness tracking capabilities as well, so it's not their primary focus.
Speaker 1:The fitness tracking features may not be as detailed, as integrated as those found in dedicated running watches, so smart watches such as the Apple Watch offer a seamless user experience and visually, whereas the running watches like those of the Garmin, are primarily designed for tracking and analysing fitness activities, with a particular focus on running. So they offer an in-depth analysis of runs, with training insights like training effect, workout load, vo2 max estimates, recovery time recommendations and also performance condition. Now, running watches prioritize the accurate data collection, because obviously that's what they're designed for, and they provide advanced training metrics and feedback and designed to be durable, functional and demanding conditions, often with physical buttons for ease of operation during workouts. So I tend to see this with a lot of people who are doing ultras. They're ideal. Uh, you know, especially garmin is quite dominant within that space. So, while running watches have added some smartwatch features like notifications and music, their core strength is basically fitness and training. In essence, the smartwatches are general purpose devices, as I've said, with fitness tracking as a secondary function, although I know Apple, since they've launched the Apple Watch, have tried to make this as not just a secondary function, although I know Apple, since they've launched the Apple Watch, have tried to make this as not just a secondary function but pretty much unequal with all the other functions that they have, while the running watches are specialised tools focused on in-depth fitness data and training analysis.
Speaker 1:Now let's sort of go into detail about the apple watch. So apple watch specifically for runners running metrics. Now the apple's running mode often features, such as automatic running track detection, tools for building interval sessions, pace matching for previous routes and metrics like vertical oscillation and ground contact time, and you can customise your runs with metrics such as pace, distance, running power, cadence, stride length and ground contact time. I know recently, when they had that I don't think it was last year, it may have been the year before where they had that massive update for runners and I thought it was brilliant, because they didn't have the interval training, you had to get a third-party app Like, for instance, runkeeper. I used to use RunKeeper, which is brilliant for creating your own intervals, and also if you downloaded one of their training plans, they did that automatically for you.
Speaker 1:Design and display Apple Watches have a clean design with premium materials with sharp display. The watch's sizes range from 40mm to 49mm and the touchscreen interface is responsive. They have 30-party apps, third-party apps the Apple Watches benefit from a wide range of native and third-party apps via the iOS App Store, and also they have a conference, the Worldwide Developer Conference, which is designed to give what are called APIs or code to help developers develop these apps for not just the phone, but also for the Apple Watch itself. Smart watch features the Apple Watch may have smart features that are useful in daily life, such as the ability to make calls, obviously send messages, use voice assistance, access music and also make payments, as we said before. Safety features Something they'd use big in their advertising. The Apple Watch offers safety features such as emergency sos, fall detection, car crash detection and, obviously, the music integration. So if you get one of the cellular apple watches, you can access all your music all the time, any time of the day, and so you don't have to have your phone with you, and it's something I use quite a lot, and also that's the same for podcasts as well, if you're a podcast listener.
Speaker 1:Now the limitations are now it's less detailed in native tracking. While fitness tracking has improved with each iOS upgrade, it's not as specific, detailed or as integrated as you'd find in other Garmin watches. Navigation navigation tools sit outside the running app and to match Garmin's capabilities you often need to add third-party apps such as Komoot, rungo or Footpath for route planning, and the mapping and navigation tools are not as comprehensive as those found in the Garmin watches. Training feedback the native running app lacks training feedback features, such as detailed breakdowns for training effects, time spent in anaerobic or aerobic zones, training load, recovery time recommendations, which are standard on the Garmin watches. Now the Apple Watch also does not offer daily readiness scores, although I think in the recent that recent update it has offered the sort of like a training load figure as to how hard you are going for a particular workout. So let's say, for instance, my if I do a long run and I was doing an easy, easy long run then you may give me a particular score Battery life Battery life.
Speaker 1:Compared to Garmin. It's not as good, I think, because of the other features it has compared to the Garmin, but the battery life on the Apple Watch is pretty much limited compared to other Garmin watches. Even the longer lasting Apple Watch Ultra 2 needs charging every two to three days. With regular use and training. The Series 9 has a claimed battery life up to 18 hours, while the Ultra 2 can last for 36 hours. Now on that and something maybe I'll talk about later on you just need to be very strategic with how you're going to charge your Apple Watch if you are an Apple Watch user and I'll give you a few tips later on about how you can do that because, although I know it's a limitation compared to the Garmin watch, there are certain times of the day where you can charge your watch. So, anyway, we'll move on. We will certainly come back to that seamlessness.
Speaker 1:The journey between the running tools and wider health insights is not as seamless as it is with garmin. The apps and tools on the apple watch do not always speak to each other the way garments do, and there's no partner app that collates your data the way garmin connect does. Touchscreen limitations the touchscreen interface can be difficult to use with gloves or in wet conditions. Now let's have a look at the Garmin and see what the pros are for the Garmin Its primary focus. It is a running watch.
Speaker 1:Somin watches are presumably presumably so primarily designed as running watches, with focus on in-depth data and training analysis, making them a top choice for dedicated runners. So really detailed running analytics garmin provides a really comprehensive running metrics, including training effect, workout load, vo, VO2 max estimates, recovery time recommendations and performance condition. So they have an integrated training feedback. Garmin watches offer immediate post-workout feedback with breakdowns for training effect time in aerobic and anaerobic zones. As we've said, training load and recovery time recommendations. Advanced mapping and navigation garmin watches have integrated maps and navigation tools allowing for route creation, offline map scrolling, turn by turn guidance and features such as elevation information, return to start round trip courses and points of interest. As I said, superior battery life garmin watches generally offer a much longer battery life compared to the apple watch.
Speaker 1:Physical buttons the garmin use a combination of touchscreen and physical buttons, which makes it a lot easier to control when you are sweaty, cold or moving at pace. It has a customizable experience garmin allows customizing of watch faces, widgets, data screens so you can prioritise the information most relevant to you. There's also a free personal training and coaching. Garmin watches offer free personal training and coaching features, including daily summaries, workout recommendations and built-in workouts. Workout recommendations are built-in workouts. The robust build quality many Garmin models, like the Fenix and Epic series, are built to be rugged and durable.
Speaker 1:Very much a very comprehensive health tracking Garmin watches offer in-depth health tracking features including sleep, breathing, stress cycle tracking, body battery which estimates your energy levels, and they also track your heart rate variability. So I know the Apple Watch does cover some of those areas like sleep, and they took a while to include sleep as to be part of an integrated part of the Apple Watch. You had to rely on a third-party developer or third-party app, which I still use today and which I think is brilliant, is excellent. But they did take in their time or drag in their feet in terms of incorporating some of these extra features. The safety features garmin includes safety features like the assistance feature, which sends your name, live track link, a gps location to emergency contacts and an incident detection, which sends your name and location if the watch detects an accident.
Speaker 1:Now, the cons smartwatch capabilities compared to the apple watch. The cons smartwatch capabilities compared to the Apple Watch. The Garmin smartwatch features are more limited compared to the Apple Watch. As I've said, the Apple Watch tends to be more generalized, has much more features and the app ecosystem is a lot smaller. The user interface of Garmin watches may not be as intuitive or seamless as the Apple Watch and if you are transferring from the Apple Watch to the Garmin, it may take a while to sort of get used to the user interface. Music integration again, this is something we'll probably look in a little bit more detail. It's not as great as it is on the Apple Watch. So, especially for Apple Music users, as they need to copy MP3 files to the device via Garmin Express and there is a workaround as Apple Music is not supported but there is no auto-start. For music Aesthetics, garmin watches tend to have a sportier, more outdoorsy aesthetic compared to the sleek and more stylishly designed of the Apple Watch.
Speaker 1:Now I was quite surprised when I looked at this article that the cost was some Garmin models. I did have a look up models. Compared to the Apple Watch, high-end Garmin models like the 4Runner 965 can be more expensive than the base model for the Apple Watch. I would have thought, yes, obviously than the base model. But I know, looking at some prices in the Garmin store, they do sort of range from £300 to £500. The Garmin store then, they do sort of range from 300 to 500 pounds. It depends on, obviously, how experienced you are, what kind of data you want to be doing, how often you're looking to run, how serious you are about running. It was saying also that it was less user-friendly, so Garmin devices may take more time to adjust and there are some occasions where you might accidentally program features you did not intend to.
Speaker 1:The data integration limitations. Integrating with third-party apps like Strava is not as seamless as with the Apple Watch. The Garmin either imports all of your workouts to Strava or none, whereas Apple allows the user to select which workouts to import. Now, on that, whenever I go out for a run, I will use the integrated apple app, the workout run app, so, and I can create my intervals or just go out for a run as per normal. But I I find that, um, what I'll do is I'll come back and then I'll see immediately. On my phone I use an app which helps me to export to either Strava or to RunKeeper. So, because those are the two apps, I'd like to log my data. So Strava is great for the community. I think maybe I've talked about this before on the podcast and sort of see people can see my runs. But, as I've may have said in the past that strava is not great at creating your intervals, whereas something like using the integrated apple watch app, the running app, you can create intervals or I can use runkeeper pro, which will either you can create intervals or you can create the interval on the watch and then it would download it to the sorry, create the interval on the phone and it will download it and sync with the watch. So that's how I that's kind of my workflow in terms of going out for my run and how I log my run, terms of going out for my run and how I log my run.
Speaker 1:Now, as promised, we're going to be looking at design and display, battery life, running analytics, health and fitness and GPS accuracy, also the music integration, sort of comparison between the two watches and, last but not least, we will be looking at the future of running tech, design and display. So the shape of the apple watches have square screens and slick cases, while the garmin watches have round designs associated with sports watches. Aesthetically, apple watches are considered more everyday, stylish, while Garmin watches have a more outdoorsy look. The Apple Watches have bright, pin-sharp displays, while the Garmin has added AMOLED displays to some models. The size of Apple Watches range from 3mm to 49mm, while the Garmin sizes range from 42mm to 51mm. While the Garmin sizes range from 42 to 51 millimetres.
Speaker 1:As for controls, the Apple uses a touchscreen and crown combination with a voice and gesture control, while Garmin uses a combination of touchscreen and button controls, making it easy to use in the wet or cold conditions, and some Garmin models rely solely on physical buttons, like, for instance, on the voice and gesture control. I can raise my watch to my face and then I can say so, and so I won't say the word so that it triggers something off in your room, so set temperature or turn on the lights or whatever. So now, in terms of straps, both offer interchangeable straps, while Apple have a more diverse selection of designs. Apple design focuses on fashion, while Garmin's design is geared towards ruggedness and sports. Now, do you remember when the Apple Watch first came out? It had, I think there was a gold one, and I think you had to be. If you wanted to buy that, then he had to be taken into a special room, so, or something like that, but in terms of the functionality compared to other apple watches, it was no difference. Anyway. Let's move on to battery life now.
Speaker 1:Garmin watches generally have a longer battery life than the Apple Watches, and here are the key differences. Garmin watches can last at least a week with typical use, including an hour of GPS tracking daily. Some models can last a month without charging. The Apple Watch Ultra 2 requires charging every two to three days with regular use and training, and it can handle a kilometer ultra, but may not be sufficient for multi-day adventures. So, and apparently the apple watch series 9 needs daily charging and the series 9 and se models have a claimed 18 hour battery life. Gbs usage reduces battery life on both brands.
Speaker 1:Garmin watches recharge quite quickly, although the apple watch series 9 has a fast charging feature where it will charge to 80 percent in about 45 minutes. So let's say, if you getting ready for work, then you can quickly put it on the charger. You know, have a shower and put clothes on, whatever, so, and then by the time you've had your breakfast and whatever, then you'll be ready to charge for by 80. Some garmin models offer solar charging, which slows battery drain and extends runtime. And garmin watches are known for their longer battery life compared to apple watches, making it making them a better choice for extended use without frequent charging, especially for longer runs or multi-day adventures. So, while Apple has improved the battery life, it still requires more frequent charging than Garmin.
Speaker 1:Now, the thing is, as I did say then, you just have to be a bit more strategic with your charging. Like, for instance, what I do is, let's say, if I'm sitting down watching TV in the evening, then I will charge at that time, because I don't require it to be taking any heart rate data or any other analytics at that time, because I'm not doing any exercise and all I'm doing is just relaxing watching the TV. So it's, and also one of the apps that I use, which is a sleep tracking app. They actually have a feature as part of the sleep tracking app where it will select a time to remind you to charge your watch before you go to sleep, and that's worked for me, and so I don't see it really being an issue. There are workarounds, I know. I realise that Garmin, you know, can, let's say, I think is it, you know keep charged for, you know, maybe four or five days, but as long as you're very strategic with your Apple Watch, then I don't really see it being a massive problem. So running analytics and training feedback.
Speaker 1:Now, when it comes to running analytics, again, garmin offers a greater depth and breadth of data compared to the Apple Watch, because Garmin is really focused to those who are going to be taking their exercise really seriously. So, compared to the Apple Watch, particularly in its native tools, while Apple has improved its running metrics in the last two or three years, it doesn't match the level of detail integration found in Garmin. So here's a breakdown of some of the key differences Running metrics so the Apple Watch provides a real-time metrics like pace, distance, running power, cadence, vertical oscillation, stride length, ground contact time. So Apple's running mode also includes features as automatic running track detection, interval, session builder tools and pace matching for previous routes. Now the Garmin offers all those metrics provided by Apple with additional customization options, including the ability to customize data further by lap and averages. And Garmin also offers in-depth analysis of every run with training insights.
Speaker 1:So if you're really serious about your running, then maybe the Garmin is the way to go. If you're just like a 5K runner, you're doing maybe two to three times a week doing your park runs, then maybe the apple watch is the way to go, because obviously you know you don't need to maybe subscribe to other apps like runkeeper pro or maybe the strava for, let's say, particular personal training, running, running guides, whereas you can just use your Apple Watch and it will give you. I mean, there you've got enough data coming at you with your running power, your cadence and your vertical oscillation and stride length. So whether you really need it or not is really up to you. Training feedback.
Speaker 1:Now the Apple Watch relies on third-party apps for more detailed training feedback. The native running app does not offer features like training effect recovery time recommendations or adaptive training plans. Or the Apple Watch can provide a VO2 max data from the health app and it's very much an adjunct. It's not the exact science. There. I think you need to go into a lab to get the exact science in terms of your VO2 max data, but in the health, on the coaching plans and through third-party apps, this often comes with an additional fee. So, on, the Garmin provides a broader range of intermediate post workout feedback, including detailed breakdowns of training effect time spent in anaerobic and aerobic zones. So training load and recovery recommendations.
Speaker 1:Training effect garmin provides scores of aerobic and anaerobic impact of a run. Apple watch does not offer this feature natively, it just relies on third-party apps on the training effect. Recovery recommendations garmin offers a recovery time recommendations based the intensity of the worker and also provides heart rate variability readouts, sleep, breathing, stress tracking for smarter training management. Apple watch does not provide recovery recommendations in the running app natively, although it does track sleep and heart health and offers menstrual cycle tracking, breathing and blood oxygen, which is sort of outside of the actual running app. But it does offer those. And, like I said, I do use third party app for my sleep, which I've been using for quite a number of years and really provides excellent data to you know if you want to know as to you know your how's your sleep, how you know how deep were you sleeping, how often in the night were you waking up, that kind of thing. So but the apple watch does have its own app for that.
Speaker 1:Training plans garmin offers adaptive training plans through garmin coach based on the post-run data. Apple Watch relies on third-party apps for adaptive coaching plans and often at an additional fee. So the VO2 Max you see, these are very much estimates and uses them for training recommendations, and Apple Watch provides VO2 Max data as well. Through the health app. Now integration, the Garmin has a more integrated experience where data is seamlessly used to provide training insights and recommendations. The Garmin Connect app collates data for the user. The Apple Watch lacks a partner app that collates data the way Garmin Connect does, and the tools and apps don't always work together as seamlessly as they do in Garmin, although they do have the health app, and it is getting better at looking at your data over a length of period, like the last 30 days, watching out for trends let's say, for instance, you're running fitness, you're asleep, sleep, that kind of thing and so it does give you reminders as to how you're doing and whether you need to increase the amount of exercise that you should be doing. Um, in summary, garmin watch watches excel in depth running analytics, training feedback, mapping, navigation and long battery life, so making them ideal for really serious runners. And, as I said before, however, if you want the smartwatch capabilities, user interface, intuitiveness and seamless integration with Apple products, then the Apple Watch is the way to go. So, on health and fitness tracking, apple Watch compiles health data in the Apple Health app and prevents it. In a more user-friendly format, the workout data can be viewed on the iPhone's fitness app, but communication isn't seamless and users may need third-party apps.
Speaker 1:Now let's move on to the GPS accuracy, now built-in GPS. Most Garmin and Apple Watches have built-in GPS, but there are some Garmin models where you may need a phone Accuracy. Apple Watch GPS accuracy has improved but some users have reported inconsistencies like under-reporting distance, although I haven't really experienced that this may be due to the watch using the iPhone's GPS to save battery. The Apple Watch Ultra has a dual frequency GPS for more precise tracking. When the Garmin watch is unknown for quite reliable GPS tracking and quick signal acquisition, dual frequency GPS. The Apple Watch Ultra has dual frequency GPS more accurately than the standard GPS, especially within challenging environments.
Speaker 1:Now, moving on to a music intent integration. The Apple watch and Garmin offer a music integration, but they do differ slightly in their approach to the capabilities and here's sort of a detailed comparison integration with Apple mock, apple music. The Apple what obviously integrates really well with Apple Music, allowing users to control music playback from their wrist. However, the integration is not always always seamless, but there can be issues such as volume resetting after pace announcements. Headphone pairing film music and workout announcements. Headphones can be paired directly with the apple watch, not the iphone. I use my airpod pro and I'm still amazed at how we're able to access the whole library and more from this little device. Sometimes it can be a little bit glitchy if it's charged, if I charge my watch and I put my headphones in, as they don't seem to sync, but if you restart your watch, then it does. Um, workout playlist there is a setting to create a playlist for workouts which can be set to start automatically and play in a random order. Um, just we have to do is go to the apple watch app on your phone, then go to workouts and then workout playlist, and this means to start. This means the playlist will start when you start your workout, and I just thought that was quite a cool feature and I only just found out about that, so I've set that up already.
Speaker 1:On the Garmin music storage Garmin watches allow users to store music directly on the device, enabling offline playback. Apple Music incompatibility Unfortunately, garmin does not directly support apple music. To listen to the music from apple music on a garmin watch, users must use an old school method of copying the mp3s to the device. This process involves converting the files to mp3 format and then transferring to the watch using garmin express music playback. Music on the garmin works well and users don't experience the same volume issues as with upper watch although, in saying that, me personally, I haven't had sort of volume issues. So, however, the shuffle algorithm may not be as good as on the apple watch. A garmin Watches support services like Spotify and Amazon Music and Deezer, but may require a premium subscription. So, in summary, I think the Apple Watch provides better integration for those who use Apple Music, while Garmin offers more robust offline playback capabilities and a wider array of music services. Although I know, even if you don't have the cellular watch, I know you can um have one. Some of the recent watches, in fact pretty much all the watches you can download music to your watch, so so both offer control over music during workouts, with the apple watch having the touchscreen controls and Garmin having button controls.
Speaker 1:Now the last feature here we're going to talk about is what is the future of the running tech, especially which is on your wrist? The future of running tech will likely involve continued improvements and innovations in both hardware and software for devices like smartwatches, and here are some potential trends. So improved integration integration between devices, apps and platforms will likely become more seamless, allowing for better data sharing and analysis. Enhanced analytics expect to see more advanced running metrics, training feedback, personalized coaching features, which will become standard. Better mapping and navigation watches may offer a more sophisticated mapping and navigation capabilities, with better integration on route planning and turn by turn guidance and points of interest. Obviously, a big feature here is a longer battery life, which a lot of people are asking for, and that's not just for the watch, but also for the phone as well. So battery life will continue to improve, allowing runners to use the devices for longer periods without needing to recharge, and this could involve the use of more efficient batteries, solar charging, charging and other power-saving technologies.
Speaker 1:Customizable user experience expect more customization on options such as the ability to personalize watch faces I think you're already getting that now Data screens and user interfaces. More accurate GPS expect more customization options such as the ability to personalize um, sorry. The improvement of the gps technology will likely result in more accurate tracking of runs, even in challenging environments such as uh crowded cities or dense forests, and dual frequency gps is one feature that may become more widespread. So personalized training recommendations. Watchers may offer more personalized training recommendations based on individuals, fitness levels, goals and performance data, and this may include adaptive training plans and workout suggestions and recovery guidance.
Speaker 1:The. This probably leans more into ai, as I was. All I can already see this is integration appearing in the Strava app itself. So I think in the future we will see more artificial intelligence coming, becoming a feature within the software and within the different types of watches that we have.
Speaker 1:Anyway. That there we have it for this week, and obviously it's really down to one's personal choice as to which watch you go for. You don't necessarily have to choose from either the Apple Watch or Garmin. You can either use any one of a number of watches out there which are on the market. I just think the main thing is is if you're really invested in the Apple ecosystem, then probably you're probably more going to lean to using the Apple Watch. If you're just a standard runner, if you're a really serious runner, then maybe you will go to Garmin because of the fact that it gives much better analytics in terms of running and also a really good battery life, although you may suffer in the end in terms of having that music integration. But if that isn't a big selling deal breaker for you, then so be it. So anyway, thanks very much for listening and look forward to talking to you next week.
