Ever wondered how financial intelligence can reshape your life? Join us, Noel and Lena, as we guide you through a transformative journey of self-discovery and mastery over the art of conversation. Our latest episode is a trove of insights starting with a thought-provoking exercise from Skin Deep cards that urges us to self-reflect on our communication patterns. We peel back the layers of family dynamics and their influence on our proactive behavior, embarking on a deep dive into the enduring wisdom of Napoleon Hill's "Think and Grow Rich." Our discussion is a blend of personal revelations and actionable strategies that promise to enlighten you on the path to financial and self-awareness.
Harness the undeniable power of desire and faith with tales of childhood dreams and the relentless pursuit of a flight nurse career, as we illustrate the formidable impact of having a burning ambition. Our conversation underscores the importance of perceiving setbacks as opportunities and keeping your vision unclouded by fear. With our special guest adding depth to the dialogue, we reveal how cultivating a positive self-talk regimen and fostering unshakable belief can carve out the road to your success.
Wrapping things up, we probe the collective genius of masterminding and the pivotal role it plays in personal and professional triumphs. Grasp the concept of wealth consciousness that extends far beyond your bank account and into the fabric of a fulfilling life. We invite you to absorb the energy of our episode, where we, alongside our esteemed guest, provide the toolkit for aligning your subconscious beliefs with your grandest goals. Step into a life abundant with possibilities, as we share knowledge that inspires action toward an enriched existence.
Ever wondered how financial intelligence can reshape your life? Join us, Noel and Lena, as we guide you through a transformative journey of self-discovery and mastery over the art of conversation. Our latest episode is a trove of insights starting with a thought-provoking exercise from Skin Deep cards that urges us to self-reflect on our communication patterns. We peel back the layers of family dynamics and their influence on our proactive behavior, embarking on a deep dive into the enduring wisdom of Napoleon Hill's "Think and Grow Rich." Our discussion is a blend of personal revelations and actionable strategies that promise to enlighten you on the path to financial and self-awareness.
Harness the undeniable power of desire and faith with tales of childhood dreams and the relentless pursuit of a flight nurse career, as we illustrate the formidable impact of having a burning ambition. Our conversation underscores the importance of perceiving setbacks as opportunities and keeping your vision unclouded by fear. With our special guest adding depth to the dialogue, we reveal how cultivating a positive self-talk regimen and fostering unshakable belief can carve out the road to your success.
Wrapping things up, we probe the collective genius of masterminding and the pivotal role it plays in personal and professional triumphs. Grasp the concept of wealth consciousness that extends far beyond your bank account and into the fabric of a fulfilling life. We invite you to absorb the energy of our episode, where we, alongside our esteemed guest, provide the toolkit for aligning your subconscious beliefs with your grandest goals. Step into a life abundant with possibilities, as we share knowledge that inspires action toward an enriched existence.
Hello and welcome to the Let that Shift Go podcast. I'm Noel.
Speaker 2:And I'm Lina.
Speaker 1:And this is where we talk about the good, the bad and all the shift in between.
Speaker 2:We just talk mad shift.
Speaker 1:Let's get into it, and on this week's episode, episode episode we're talking about shifting money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you want to shift money?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but before we get into that, let's do these skin deep cards. And you want to go first?
Speaker 2:I'll go first. Yeah, go ahead. What is the most important thing? You didn't do that you should have done.
Speaker 1:What is the most important thing I didn't do that I should have done? That you should have done? What is the most important thing I didn't do that I should have done? Wow, that's a hard question. What is the most important thing that I didn't do? I guess, listen, two ears, one mouth, you know. Yeah. I spent so much time talking and trying to convince myself I was right. Yeah, I didn't spend a lot of time listening like active listening to people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a learned skill. I think, yeah, deep listening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I found my like. More recently, I've found myself reflecting on how I just made excuses for everything I did. Oh, you know that takes a lot of talking. We talked a little bit about that last episode, you know. Yeah. So, yeah, probably not listening sooner.
Speaker 2:That's a big shift.
Speaker 1:Yeah, All right. Your question is how am I most like you and how does that scare you?
Speaker 2:How am I most like you, and how does that scare you?
Speaker 3:I would say, in the past we were most alike in our level of sarcasm.
Speaker 1:How does that scare you?
Speaker 2:Man, I don't well gosh. I don't know that it scared me, except that it could go on forever, Like we could just keep going back and forth, back and forth. And you know that. Now I've learned that sarcasm is anger yeah. And so I think we had prided ourselves on being so good at who's more sarcastic or who's more witty or who could like come up with the thing first. Yeah, that, actually that wasn't really a good thing.
Speaker 1:No, and I can't figure out if it made me harder or you know less, I don't know affected by other people's, you know, outsiders it was like an armor. Yeah, because I think, like our family talks so much shit that when other people talk shit to me I was like that's all you got. My sister talks game way more than you. Yeah, yeah, yeah and now.
Speaker 2:I yeah, after realizing it is it's a more than you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I yeah, after realizing it is. It's a form of anger. Yeah. It's like you know, it's not necessarily something I'm proud of, but I would say that that's now, that's not really a thing. I think in the past that's really. That was probably it, yeah. Where we're most alike.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because other ways are almost like. Don't scare me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, like we're both very driven, we're very like out in front and those things don't scare me.
Speaker 1:Well, one thing I would say is like. One thing that would be the same for me if I hadn't answered that question would be that what scares me is that me and you are always the first to do something. Oh, yeah, you know. Yeah, me and you are always the first to do something. Oh, yeah, you know. Yeah, true. How are we the same? We're the first ones like I'll do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll jump in the pool. I don't know if there's water, but let's go. Let's go see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm less likely to do that now, just more risk adverse. So yeah, all right. Well, let's get into this book. It's a book called Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. It's a very oldie but goodie.
Speaker 2:It is a very oldie but goodie and this one was one of those books that really excited me. I'm kind of upset that it took me so long to read it. Yeah, it was recommended to me a lot of times. I read it first because you told me after I think, yeah, years ago, this one, though after reading it really from a conscious perspective. Yeah, okay, because it's different when you read anything from a more aware perspective, where you're just a little bit more like I don't know awake and aware of how the world works and how you work. It hit a little harder to home and actually it's one of those books that I would have made my kids read before they left high school.
Speaker 1:That's actually in the book. Yeah, he wishes it's part of the curriculum. The curriculum, yeah, curriculum.
Speaker 2:Like this and how to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. That one I did make my kids read because it's very about emotional intelligence. This is about really financial intelligence and not just about financial. It's about like self-awareness on so many levels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a different way of thinking about things, positive thinking it is.
Speaker 2:It's really simple stuff, but you realize how powerful it is once you become a little bit more aware and you're like, yeah, actually this is all truth. Once you become a little bit more aware and you're like, yeah, actually this is all truth and a lot of it. It is very old information. It was used by our forefathers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, back in the 20s, 1917 or 1920, something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a very influential book and the principles still apply, so it's one that I definitely recommend to people. Nowadays, I'm like, hey, if you read this book, or you read this book, I bought it for my kids and have you know, kind of asked them to please read it. It's just good stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised on how conscious they are back then.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, the principles are the same. They still hold true. So it's like there's all these key concepts in the book, right, how you can apply them to achieve success, and actually all of these things really apply in various aspects of your life. It's not just about money. I don't feel like the book is just about money.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I think it's about anything. It's about abundance in all areas. And in the beginning of the book they say we're not going to tell you what the secret is. You are going to realize what it is on your own.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In one of the chapters you may pull the secret as you're listening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so that kind of made it like a mystery, like ooh, I wonder if it's this, and immediately I did have a suspicion on what it is, or maybe what it is to me and the thing for me that I think it is.
Speaker 1:Is that, whatever you think, you're right? Yeah, we've heard that before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, whatever you think, you're right. So if you think money works this way, then you're right. It does. You think you're in scarcity? You're right, you are. You think things never work out for you? You're absolutely right. But if you think differently, then everything can change, everything can shift.
Speaker 1:Because you start to pull those things toward you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I think what would be good is we'll go through some of the key points in the book. The highlight the main themes, because the book there's so much in it but there's some things I'd like to discuss a little bit deeper. The first one is about the power of desire. Yeah. So, really, the concept of having a burning desire for a success, yeah, like you're totally obsessed with it.
Speaker 1:That kind of burning desire, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, no matter what I'm going to do this, it's like a fire in my belly to do it.
Speaker 1:You're convinced and you're devoted, and there's no doubt in you. Yeah, that's the key. That is actually the most important part right?
Speaker 2:I think so, because everything starts, it's eros, it's the desire for something. Nothing has ever become a thing like a building or any kind of dream has never been fulfilled unless it started as a dream, unless it started as a desire. Something you wanted, something somebody wanted. Everything you have is because somebody wanted it to be real.
Speaker 1:Well, I look back at me and Ralph and how we were best friends since we were like nine years old, but we always kind of competed with each other with things like quads or jet skis, and he'd get one, I'd get one, but we worked for it.
Speaker 1:We didn't have wealthy parents. We just kind of hustled and did side jobs. But you wanted it, we wanted it. And so we're sitting around one day and we're watching this neighborhood dad load up a trailer full of three-wheelers and dune buggies and we're just sitting across the street just watching him like man. I wish I could just sit on one of those things.
Speaker 1:And he was one of our friends, one of the girls in our neighborhood. It was her dad. So we didn't, you know, because it's a girl and she was younger than us, we didn't really know her. And we knew her, but we didn't hang out with her and he was like, hey, what are you guys doing? Instead of just watching, why don't you get over here and help me? And so he kind of started that and then we started he's like well, if you need help getting something like this, I can give you a loan, or you just come work for me and I'll. What do you want? He took us to go get the dang things and all that stuff. But why? I say that? Is because it was a driver for us and me and Ralph we just decided, oh, I want this. How can I?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and so that just set us on the path. He gave us the confidence that we could do it. Yeah. And he made it seem like it was absolutely attainable. So we thought, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So we fully believed. If it's possible for him, it's possible for me yeah. And how nice of him to be able to say yeah, if you want it, you can go and get it, you can work for it. I, I can help you. But that's where it starts. Is with this, like want. Yeah, this desire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, being able to see something and saying I want to do that and I know for me it was you know, becoming a flight nurse was one of the things. Right, I would see the flight team come in and I'm like I want to do that. And it was like this deep burning thing that would happen every time I would see them come in and then it was like, at all costs, I will make this happen. It never occurred to me that I couldn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like no, that's-. It's a conviction that you needed to-.
Speaker 2:Deep deep conviction and no matter what. If somebody said, well, you're not going to be able to do it because of this, I'm like hmm.
Speaker 1:I bet you the listeners, there's several things within their own lives that they can question and go. Yeah, you know what, when I really put my mind, they say it right, you put your mind to anything, it can be done, but the key to that is in this book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's recognizing that that deep desire is so valuable and one of the main things, to really determine what it is that you want and really thinking at all costs. I will make this happen, you know, in the frame of being integrous, of course, but, like you know, just having that want and then going for it. Yeah. Not even letting it occur to you that it won't happen, Because that's when you start to. You know, kill it. Fear kills more dreams than anything else.
Speaker 1:So when you made that decision, did things start to happen, Absolutely. What did you notice? That was like oh, I made it. Was it clear to you that you had made that decision or not?
Speaker 2:at the time. No, it was definitely clear to me I had made that decision. And then, and then, over and over, there was an opportunity that would present itself to me to take another step forward. But I had to take a lot of steps forward to be like how do I become competitive for this job? How do I put myself in the best position to do that? Well then, I had to go work somewhere else and get another set of skills and really planning for when I went in for my interview I would know I'd have this, this and this, and this would give me an edge over the competition you know, because it was a very competitive job to get and so I set myself up for that.
Speaker 2:But I did the hard things. I had to go take a job that was much further away, that was outside of way, outside of my comfort zone. At that time I really was not comfortable doing pediatrics because we didn't do a lot of pediatrics at my hospital, and I thought, well, this will set me apart if I go and just immerse myself in pediatric trauma, which is scary, yeah, right. So I had to go do that and then go do transport and work my regular job and do all this stuff. But just to put myself in that position, and the first time I went in I didn't get the job and it was crushing and I thought maybe I'm not for this and I thought, nope, that's not the answer.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to keep going yeah, and then I did and thank God I didn't get a job where I wanted to, but I thought I wanted to because I ended up in a place I really loved being so you got to create. I got to create create a space I got to create. Yeah, so that power of desire is everything. So really figuring out what is it you really want and letting that just start this fire inside of you is going to be the main thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think we share that, where we just put our mind to something and then we just keep going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, your mind is so powerful.
Speaker 1:Well, when I switched over and I left my property management job and then I decided I was going to do real estate and start a business, I started doing pools, but just as like a side thing, until I got my real estate thing going and then the market crashed and all this stuff, and I thought I really got to take this pool stuff serious because I got to pay a mortgage. So I was just like you know what? I'm going to make this pool, I'm going to become a big pool company in San Diego. And I thought, how am I going to do this pool? But I'm going to become a big pool company in San Diego. And I thought, how am I going to do this?
Speaker 1:And it just happened that I met with somebody. I ran into one of the district managers of a local distribution place in San Diego and had dinner with him at a convention that we were at and just had some conversation and he just mentioned hey, are you looking for more work? And that was the start to just me expanding. I never bought another pool since and I have over 300 now. So it's like it just blew up because I was like well, I got to make this go. And then, sure enough, something fell into my lap because I was just focused on it.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep. Where your attention goes, that's where the magic can happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and each of you listening. If you ask yourself that same question, I'm sure you'll see some.
Speaker 2:The next one is the importance of faith. So what's the role of faith and belief in achieving goals for you? What do you think?
Speaker 1:The role. Just maintaining, I mean, and staying on the path, because sometimes the obstruction or the thing that's in the way is the path.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, it absolutely is. But when you have absolute faith that you can make anything happen, then you're unstoppable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but not everybody has that, so how do you get to that? Spot I find, like mom would say, I'm not conceited, I'm just convinced, Like I mean, it's weird because in a lot of ways, even through therapy, I see how I doubt myself in so many ways. So outwardly I'm very confident, I'm very structured, I'm out that way, but internally I'm very confident, I'm very structured, I'm out that way, but internally I'm questioning everything.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, for me faith now really goes back to the belief. Like universal law, you know that whatever you put your mind to you can make happen, like I have faith in that. If it's for me, it will be, and so just that belief, that deep faith fits for me it will be, and so just that belief that deep faith that that is true.
Speaker 2:It drives me forward. So when I hear a no, I'm like nope. My desire is still there. I know that if I do A, b and C and I put my focus there, it will happen. That's faith to me, that what will be for you will be If you put your mind to it, if you strive for it, if you look for the opportunity, it will happen. It's just when.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because there's another story in that book that talks about a gold miner who came into some money, got a gold mine. I'm just remembering bits and pieces of it but basically he started this gold mine and got in and hit gold, hit a vein of gold and made a bunch of money and was trying to make more and invested all this money into all this equipment and he lost the vein of gold. So he thought, oh man, he ended up giving up mining that gold and he ended up selling for pennies on the dollar all the rights and all the equipment.
Speaker 1:And the guy who bought it decided you know what? I'm going to look into this a little bit further and he did some studies on this and that and he actually found three feet away from where that guy left off, he struck the biggest gold mine.
Speaker 2:So three feet from gold.
Speaker 1:And that guy ever since then remembered that lesson, that he should not have given up on his dream. And he ended up being successful in other ways afterwards, but that was a big lesson for him not to give up.
Speaker 2:Like to never give up again.
Speaker 1:And I think that's the faith part. Yeah, believing in yourself that you can do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the other. So the next one is power of auto-suggestion.
Speaker 1:What is that?
Speaker 2:So really like you know, kind of talking yourself into it you know constantly saying to yourself like this, this, it's getting better and better. Positive talk yeah, positive talk, like it. This it's not woo Okay, like mantra and being able to. You know, like For me I would put things on my.
Speaker 2:I'd put sticky notes on my mirror and I would put those things on there that was reminding me of where I was going and really telling, affirming for me, even when I didn't think it. Maybe sometimes If I would read it, if I would put it in my purview, if I would keep my focus and tension on the positive suggestion that these things were happening and these things were coming, were definitely very powerful. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the other thing was always looking for why it was working out. Because a lot of times what we do is we get down on ourselves and we say yeah, it's not working out, and then your brain affirms all the way it's not if that's what you're looking for. But if you start looking for the one way, it did, like, oh, I made a connection with so-and-so, and like, for me, I got, you know, a day to go to the base and be able to be an observer you know, and it's like, oh look, that worked out, this worked out.
Speaker 2:At least I scored an interview, whatever it was. So if you were constantly focusing on the way it was working out, that actually just brought more Instead of what wasn't working out. Yeah, because your mind, then, is looking for the ways it is Because, whatever you're saying or thinking, your mind wants to affirm it. So you really got to look at what are you saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we talked about before like 80% of thoughts are negative. We have six to 8,000 thoughts per day and 80% of them are negative, 95% of them are looping and only 5% are from new information. So you can get stuck in like a trance of rumination and you get stuck there and this is what we're talking about is bringing yourself out of that, because that's the natural cause or natural way that we live is in the negative space. So it's slowly changing the little ways that we talk to ourselves and being more positive about that is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they call it the self-administered stimuli.
Speaker 1:Self-administered stimuli yeah, oh, a little medicine for yourself, yeah yeah, self-administered stimuli. Self-administered stimuli yeah, a little medicine for yourself. Yeah, yeah, self-administered stimuli Is there something that you say to yourself or do for yourself, or it just depends on what you're trying to achieve.
Speaker 2:You know, one thing is I try to, when I can feel myself kind of getting into like a negative loop, is I'll say it's getting better and better, because then I'm looking for ways that it is constantly the other thing even when you were talking about how we get stuck in a rumination of thought or a loop of thought is that is really the time also when, if you do have a practice of meditation and just coming back to a center and just detaching from thoughts at all, so that you, you realize wait, I'm getting lost in my I'm ruining it, but it's not about like not having any thoughts.
Speaker 1:No, it's detaching from them.
Speaker 2:It's detaching from them, it's becoming the observer.
Speaker 1:Stepping back away from yeah.
Speaker 2:Becoming the observer of the thoughts We've talked about. The observer all the time I'm telling you that is a superpower is to be able to become observer of what's happening in a situation where you're with someone, you're in conversation, or even when you're just you're going into meditation and you're just in conversation with yourself, is being able to observe that that's happening and coming back to a center point, because then you can say here I am, I'm ruminating or I'm caught in a loop. Let me shift that, let me disrupt that and give myself a self-administered new thought you know, or a programming.
Speaker 2:So I think that is a very, very powerful.
Speaker 1:And maybe changing what you say all the time, like things happen for me, not to me.
Speaker 2:Yes, how is this happening for me? And you know, when something isn't working out that it was in your plan right, we get so focused on the how. Sometimes, too, that's a little tough. But if something doesn't, is to know trust that that may be protection. Whatever didn't go according to what you wanted it to at that moment to get you to that goal, that might be protection, and you won't know it until you have some hindsight later on. But that's part of the faith. That's just really trusting that if it's-.
Speaker 1:You come circle back to faith, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna happen for you, if that's what's meant for you and you have this strong, burning desire. There's a reason for that desire. I think desire is also your higher selves, already knowing that this is where you're going, and it stimulates something inside of you that's pulling you towards the thing that you were going to be doing anyway, self-administered stimuli. Yeah. The next one, which we've talked about before, is the mastermind principle. Yeah, and that goes back to you, are the five people you surround yourself with?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like this because it's giving you we do it kind of me, you and Armando kind of like our little executive meetings, we call it, where we sit together and we just talk about things and really bounce ideas off of each other. And it helps tremendously with my mental health and my awareness to kind of, you know, move things and talk about things and ideas and things, not just hard things, but ideas and things that we're doing in business and trying to, you know, move forward with our projects.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the other, you know, along with this mastermind principle right For me, if I think about when I was going to do flight or when I'm doing what I'm doing now, I want to surround myself with people who probably are already doing it. I want to surround myself with people who probably are already doing it right, or people who are better at something than I am in whatever it is that's going to get us all to where we're going. So you kind of share your gifts with everyone. Like maybe you know someone who's really great at marketing or you know someone who's really great at writing copy or something, but you're not. You don't have to be good at all those things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gotta hire your weakness.
Speaker 2:You gotta be able to surround yourself, then, with people who are, or people who can encourage you on the road that you're going.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that mastermind principle, I think, is really important. I don't think you get anywhere without the help of others. I mean, there's this whole concept of self-made. Really, that's one of the things they talk about is there's no self-made. There's always help along the way. And if you're trying to be self-made and you're like I can do it myself, that's a trauma response. But anyway is to know to say, hey, who do I know that could do this better than me? How?
Speaker 1:do I, you know, ask them? Yeah, because there's been plenty. Well, not plenty, but there's been several occasions in my careers that I've been offered opportunity to collaborate with somebody else and I always turned it down, and they were better at different things than I was, but I was still not willing to let go of control. You think that's ego?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And now it's. It's more clear now that collaborating with others in places where you're weak, this is how you succeed, because nobody like you said I can do it, I can do it, just let me do it, I'll figure it out. Yeah, maybe you will, but in a mastermind community of people, it's much simpler to converse with people who are thinking at the same level or on higher levels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with people who are thinking at the same level or on higher levels and being invited into a place where I've had plenty of occasions where I've been speaking with people that are much higher levels than I am, and I learned so much just from listening to them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think you know, really, if you think about people who are very high achieving, who are at that level of probably mastermind and above, is if you were to go to them and say, hey, I want to learn from you. I know that this is important for me. To be able to grow is to surround myself with people who are doing exactly what I want to do. What do you think about collaborating with me? Or can I ask you some questions? And people who are at that level have already done it. They know that this is a principle. They know that masterminding is a way to elevate yourself, elevate the people around you, and to think and grow rich.
Speaker 2:So this is not going to be a concept that's new to people who have grasped this level of success in whatever it is that they're trying to achieve. So, yeah, don't be afraid to ask. Let your ego, kind of you know, sit by the side and learn something from the people around you. And if you don't know who they are, then find them. Yeah, you know, go out and find them. If you're sitting around with the people who are commiserating and aren't doing anything, well then that's where you're going. There's you're not going to be able to kind of peel yourself out of that yeah you.
Speaker 2:You know, so that I love that. And if you look around now like coaching and things like that, that's about masterminding as well, you know. Yeah. Which is why it's such an important piece really to have that a mentor, yeah, To have mentorship, yeah, yeah. So the other one is persistence and the power of definiteness and purpose, which I think that goes back to kind of the desire and faith you know, in some way.
Speaker 1:Well, some people don't know what their purpose is or what they want to do specifically, so it may be hard to go oh, I want to do this. Maybe they don't know exactly what they want to do, but it really works, not only just for your purpose, but anything. What would you? Say Start with small tasks, like you say, with other things, right.
Speaker 2:Well, what would you say if somebody, if you had to figure out, well, what's my purpose? What would be the way that you would suggest somebody would find out what their purpose is?
Speaker 1:Well, I've read in past is like okay, are there ways that you get lost doing something for hours and when you look up you're like, oh my God, I can't believe the time passed. That's something, that is something you have joy in, you're completely focused in, or if you didn't have bills and you didn't have a worry of money?
Speaker 1:what would you do with your time, those types of things? I mean, there's a bunch of books on that topic of finding your purpose, but those are some of the general ones but not easy to do. No, and I think even for me my purpose has changed several times. I think it does. I think it must in some ways, you know.
Speaker 2:Well, and I think you know, when we're younger too, we're kind of told what our purpose is, or what it should be, and then we try to fulfill these roles that other people have put out for us.
Speaker 1:Legacy burdens.
Speaker 2:Legacy burdens, legacy burdens, yeah. And so at some point you kind of figure out like all right, I did that and it still doesn't feel good. Okay, so then, really going back to what your purpose is, like you said, is, what do you lose time in doing?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that you have a natural inclination to do yeah, that, sometimes asking the people around you who are with you consistently and asking, like, what do you think my purpose is, or what do you see that I strive in?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's something too, asking other people.
Speaker 2:Because sometimes they're more observant of what you naturally do without you being aware of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like asking a few of your close friends or family members who you being aware of it. Yeah, like what? Asking a few of your close friends or family members?
Speaker 2:Who you like and like you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is key. I think somebody that likes you.
Speaker 2:What are you so good at that? You just shine at that. Maybe other people don't.
Speaker 1:Well, you're going to know your people, you mean, not everybody has five or six people, maybe just one or two, or if you're lucky, you know that you have somebody. You have somebody you can ask, but maybe a boss or a coworker. It's a vulnerable question to ask, though.
Speaker 2:It is. But I mean, if you need that outside kind of input because you're not sure, that's a good place to start, I think for me I've gotten to the place now where I feel pretty definite in my purpose. But that has really come back from the feedback of others to me when I'm doing something and like if I'm, you know, helping a client, you know through coaching or breath work, and I feel this immense joy that feels like it's going to explode out of my body. That that's when I go. Oh yeah, this is. I came here for this this feeling of helping, this feeling of serving in this specific way, and it doesn't feel hard for me, it feels natural, it feels effortless, it doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 2:I don't feel drained from it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a confirmation of your yeah.
Speaker 2:There's like a clue like this could be my purpose. It doesn't feel like work, you know, I don't feel drained from it. Yeah, that's a confirmation of your. Yeah. There's like a clue, like you know, this could be my purpose. It doesn't mean that my purpose won't change.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But this is what feels good, right, and this is leading me in this moment to what my purpose is right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's probably a lot of for me finding my purpose. There was a battle with imposter syndrome. Oh yeah, for sure, because then you need to break out of that shell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, that's coming, that's coming in here. This other one Okay, so this one is really was really interesting to me, and this was the transmutation of sexual energy. So it's really talking about how sexual energy can be redirected or harnessed for creative purposes, and one of the really interesting things I found in this book was it said that most people it's really talking about how sexual energy can be redirected or harnessed for creative purposes. One of the really interesting things I found in this book was it said that most people not all, and this might be a little outdated, but I don't know ask yourself is that most people don't find their purpose or become very successful in it until after the age of 40.
Speaker 1:Between 40 and 60 is the prime age for finding your purpose, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought that was really interesting. It's like why people seldom succeed before 40. And they said that because we often are using a lot of our sexual energy in order to pursue other things like partner ego, our looks or the outward appearance of how we're doing or whatever, and so it's more focused on the ego than on the more self-actualized part of ourselves, and so we're using Sexual energy is extremely powerful energy.
Speaker 1:It's the most powerful energy.
Speaker 2:It literally has the power to create life. So when you're using all of that sexual energy for the pursuit of sex, let's say, or the pursuit of ego attributes, you're not using that same amount of very powerful energy to create, to push you forward to what you came here to do, and so I thought that was really interesting and true on a lot of levels. So that's where I see, like, okay, if there's people who are using all of their energy just for the ego, how much of it do they have left to really pursue the things that they most desire? Because if all of your desire is focused on this carnal energy, then how much of it do you have left to really pursue purpose?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like maybe it's the reason why the drive behind what you're doing before 40. And once you get 40, you become more aware and you start settling into yourself. You get a little more hindsight, you have a conscience and then you start thinking.
Speaker 2:And then pretty soon you're using all that energy to be like I'm pushing myself forward towards this thing that I want so much, and maybe it's not just a partner or sex, maybe it's this goal.
Speaker 1:I thought I was making better decisions because I'm older. I didn't know. It was because my sexual drive was tapering off and now I have energy to focus. All this energy within me is focused in a more positive way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, to me it's just really there's a lot of talk about sexual energy just being very powerful form of energy, right, Like if you had a 10 volt versus 20 volt. That energy is very powerful for bringing things into the world, literally and figuratively. And so, if you think about how much of your energy do you spend in the pursuit of sex or misusing sexual energy as opposed to using it to propel yourself forward?
Speaker 1:What's an example of using it positively?
Speaker 2:Being able to really not be constantly in the pursuit of sex itself, but to use that drive. Think about how much energy is available to you as sexual energy when you're with your partner, you're in love or you're all of that and that amount of energy that you could then harness to use for something else. I mean energy is energy, right it's what you're going to use it for it's currency. So if you then redirect it to something that is more purposeful or long lasting, or in the pursuit of self-actualization, say then you're able to go much further.
Speaker 1:Well, and you know it's possible, because I'm sure a lot of people have been in a place where they didn't want to talk, they didn't want to go out and they were maybe just totally depressed and somebody that they're sexually attracted to calls and goes. Hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Do you want to go out?
Speaker 1:Oh, and suddenly you're awake, you're like yes, what time do you need me to be there? And you absolutely-.
Speaker 2:Your 3 am booty call and suddenly you're awake that sexual energy.
Speaker 1:just flipped a switch. And listen if somebody said, oh, can you go take out the trash?
Speaker 2:I don't think I could do that as easy.
Speaker 1:I so, with that example alone, you should see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it translates to desire right, desire for something I like that Desire. Desire is the key, yeah is a very powerful energy, and this last one, I think, is a really important one, and one that I think we work on a lot I work on a lot with clients is the subconscious mind.
Speaker 1:The mind-body connection.
Speaker 2:Mind-body connection, the subconscious mind, the relationship between the conscious and the subconscious mind, because the subconscious mind contains all of your programming.
Speaker 1:When you say programming, that's like what.
Speaker 2:Like everything you learned about who you are and how the world works All your fears.
Speaker 2:All your fears, all your traumas, all your not enoughness, all your I can do it myself All of that scarcity is in the subconscious. So when you start to become conscious of what is in there, there becomes the opportunity to then start clearing those things, meaning you start really examining wait a minute, it's core beliefs. So, going back to what is my core belief and you really like, just take money, for example. If you grew up in a house where people with money were seen as greedy or sketchy or evil, money's the root of all evil. That is a common saying, right? And if you really believe that subconsciously-.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you may believe that you don't deserve nice things.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Or why would I want money? Because people with money are bad. So then why would you're not going to, it's not going to stay with you because you subconsciously believe that that would make you a bad person. So it's really becoming aware of what your core beliefs are. And when you start to push your success and you have to push yourself out of your comfort zone, into your imposter syndrome, into whoa wealth is coming to me, I'm uncomfortable. Why is that? Then you start to really have to examine your subconscious, and the beautiful way to do that is through your triggers. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you're going to butt up against a lot of your triggers when you're accumulating wealth and you're having not just the wealth accumulation itself but you having to put yourself out there, you having to be seen, you having to be able to fail, because that's going to trigger all of your wounds. So at that point the work becomes how do I start to tell myself the truth? What is the truth? What do I unconsciously believe and how do I become aware of that? So then I can tell myself a new story. So it's really repatterning and I feel like a lot of the coaching that you see now or the self-help stuff, it all comes back to this one thing. So if you see a lot of the help with like find your soulmate or, you know, realize your best professional goal, it's going to come back to all of your subconscious beliefs and needing to clear them.
Speaker 1:Back to source.
Speaker 2:It's going to go back to the source and there's the opportunity to start being like wait, that's not true. You know, people who have money are actually. They can be very generous, they can be very nice people, they can be conscious people, so then it might make money stick around a little longer for you if you don't at your core, believe, subconsciously, that that's not true. So it's working through a lot of the pain sometimes or the mistruths that you've been told or you've been. You've been kind of branded with, imprinted with and telling yourself a new story. When it comes to, well, I want to find my soulmate or I want to find love, you're going to butt up against I'm not enough, I'm not worthy, I'm not pretty enough, whatever. Whatever it is.
Speaker 2:Then you start to look at the stories. You're telling yourself why do I keep picking this type of partner? Well, were you somebody that was raised in chaos? Because then chaos becomes very comfortable. So the soonest somebody shows up who has no chaos they're just nice and they treat you well you probably become very uncomfortable and push that person away because that's not to you what love is, become very uncomfortable and push that person away because that's not to you what love is. So that's all of this deprogramming, you know, and and kind of making the way for abundance, whether it's in love or in money or success or whatever it is is really becoming aware of what your subconscious mind is telling you. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know. This is this. These are the. For these reasons, yeah, I think everyone should read this book. Yeah, no, I don't know, this is.
Speaker 2:These are the for these reasons yeah, I think everyone should read this book. Yeah, no matter what. It's not just about money.
Speaker 1:No, it's a way to kind of live your life. Yeah, it is, it's written about. You know, think and grow rich. But when you read it you'll see that there's tons of more. You know, nuggets of knowledge in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I tons of more nuggets of knowledge in there. Yeah, I think that they wrote it that way. So because on some level, most people think well, of course I want to be rich, so let me pick this book up. But it's not just about money, it's about everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you have to have complete faith in yourself.
Speaker 2:You got to start talking to yourself different. You got to become aware of what your programming is or what your unconscious, subconscious beliefs are.
Speaker 1:And focusing on the things that are happening good for you rather than focusing on the things that don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, switch it around, shift it, shift it. Shifting into wealth consciousness.
Speaker 1:All right, that's been another episode of Let that shift go podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm noelle and I'm lena, let us know what your questions are and we'd love to use them on a future episode.