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Episode 41: Healing Humanity with Kerry Mann
Kerry Mann, acclaimed podcaster and filmmaker of Healing Humanity, shares his inspiring health transformation story. Discover how the carnivore diet helped Kerry reclaim his vitality, tackling long-standing health challenges along the way.
Tune in to hear about Kerry’s mission to empower others through his documentary project, capturing the profound impact of dietary change. This episode invites you to rethink nutrition and explore the possibilities of a holistic path to wellness.
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Welcome to the Primal Foundations podcast. I'm your host, tony Pascola. We will dive into what I believe are the four central foundations you need for a healthy lifestyle Strength, nutrition, movement and recovery. Get ready to unlock your path to optimal health and enjoy the episode and enjoy the episode. Today's guest on the show is Cary Mann, a podcaster, filmmaker and the creator behind the documentary Healing Humanity. Cary's film takes a deep dive into the powerful connection of health, healing and holistic living. Cary Mann, welcome to the Primal Foundations podcast.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me, Tony. I really appreciate it podcast.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for having me, tony. I really appreciate it. I caught you for the first time at a hacker health. I was in the room um standing room only, by the way, full, full house uh and got to see you showcase, uh, some of the clips from healing humanity. You know, the room was packed. You had incredible guests in the audience, like Dr Kiltz, dr. You had incredible guests in the audience like Dr Kiltz, dr Chafee. What was it like for you to see a full house and, you know, present in front of like influential, like figures like that.
Speaker 2:It was completely surreal and unbelievable. Honestly, I I still kind of pitch myself sometimes like is this real? Did I really just go on this proper human carnivore diet, eat a bunch of meat, and now I'm doing this kind of thing? I've been doing YouTube for quite a while, but public speaking is something that I would have rather died than even thought about doing prior to carnivore. I'm a lot better on carnivore, but that whole thing was surreal.
Speaker 2:Looking out there and seeing Dr Chafee standing there and Dr Kiltz thing was surreal. Looking out there and seeing Dr Chafee standing there and Dr Kiltz. It was pretty meaningful for me as well, because those guys I feel like I owe so much to. I found carnivore through other individuals, but I was never going to attempt to do something like that without sort of the reassurance of some of these good doctors, and so I just started doing a ton of research when I heard about carnivore and Dr Chafee popped up Dr Kiltz, dr Berry, dr Baker and it's interesting like, besides the information they were giving me, it just made me pause for a moment because I was like man, this Dr Chafee guy, he's a neurosurgeon that's literally performed brain surgery on people. Maybe I should just pause a moment and not do carnivore, because a brain surgeon is doing carnivore. But maybe it's worth further investigation and that's what I ended up doing.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that whole thing at Hack your Health was surreal, incredible. I was very nervous at first and then, when I got done, I'm like I want to do this some more. This was a lot of fun, especially being able to share some of these stories. Like Bill Knott, who we have in the documentary. It seemed like the audience was kind of going crazy for Bill's story. He's become a huge friend of mine, so that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:As well, yeah, I mean, it was a great presentation. I think everybody was on the edge of their seats and loved it, and I want to kick off the podcast, too, by talking about. You know your start, your journey. You know your personal health experience. So can you tell us a little bit about your own health experiences and what made you go down this rabbit hole of finding a proper human diet?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely so. Proper human diet has literally saved my life. I had so many health issues Started out with obesity. At my heaviest I was 100 pounds than I am right now. I had kidney stones at one time. That was some of the worst pain I've ever been through in my whole life.
Speaker 2:I was diagnosed with IBS maybe 10, 15 years ago. My stomach just always was hurting me. Every time I'd eat a meal my stomach would hurt. It's always like gurgling and bubbling. It always bothered me.
Speaker 2:I had my gallbladder removed several years ago because of these stomach issues and they checked my gallbladder and the doctor was like it's borderline, like you could probably keep it, but I was in so much pain I was like I want to try anything, so take my gallbladder out. A couple of years after that my appendix burst on the operating room table almost killed me if I wasn't going in. I was going in to get it removed and it burst right before they started doing the surgery. A lot of these things I have found in retrospect I think wouldn't have been issues. I really believe the root cause for most of these was my nutrition. I also had skin cancer on my ear at one time, but the worst issue for me was mental health. I suffered from just horrible depression 10, 15 years clinical depression, suicidal depression, horrible anxiety turned into insomnia. I went many years without going in for help until my wife finally convinced me I had to go in for help. And then they put me on medication and I did that for about a little over 10 years. I was on pretty much every antidepressant SSRI medication and I was just the definition of hopelessness. About eight years ago I was sitting at home and I went to sit up and I got very dizzy and my face was going numb and my fingers to sit up and I got very dizzy. My face was going numb and my fingers were numb and I got very confused. I was trying to tell my wife something and I couldn't find my words at all. She called 911 and I suffered a TIA mini stroke. They rushed me to the hospital. I spent five days at this stroke unit in the hospital.
Speaker 2:Thankfully, I had some issues that lasted for probably a year, but it wasn't a permanent stroke. A TIA mini stroke is usually temporary, so I had to go in for physical therapy and things like that. But they did all these tests. You're like man, this guy in his late 30s. Why is he having a mini stroke? Why is he having all of these issues? One other issue I forgot to mention I had sleep apnea using a CPAP machine for years, just snoring like crazy and having trouble breathing. So they did a bunch of subsequent tests when I had that mini stroke and they diagnosed me with congestive heart failure. They said your ejection fraction is 44. And what that means is just your heart can't keep up with the needs of your body. It's not pumping enough blood for the needs of your body. And they said maybe the sleep apnea that I was having was likely contributing to that and some of the heart issues. But I was just a mess, all of those things combined.
Speaker 2:And then, on top of all of that, I ended up getting gout. I put that in big quotation marks because I'm not sure if it was gout or what it was, but it was in my right foot, in my second toe, and it it hurt so bad it was just. It hit me one day and I could not put any pressure down on my foot. I had to use crutches. I went to the hospital. They checked it out. I went back over the course of 18 months. I saw three different doctors. Two of them said it was gout. The third one just said you just have a ton of inflammation in that toe for some reason and if you want to fix it we're going to have to do surgery. We'll have to cut the toe, cut the joint. They were going to put like this metal ball bearing in there or something. It was just a crazy thing and that was the last straw. I didn't quite do that surgery.
Speaker 2:I was so close to doing it and I saw a man named Dante Frigno from a YouTube channel, frigno Freedom, talking about how he's going to do this all meat diet and I thought the guy was insane, crazy. On the flip side, I thought this makes sense because I knew a little bit about the ketogenic diet. I had found that years ago and I had dipped my toe in. I did a little bit of keto and I had some good success, but I could never I could never maintain keto. But when I saw Dante, I'm like the science makes sense, that's a strict ketogenic diet. But you're insane. How are you going to only eat meat? You're going to clog your arteries, you're going to get bored. You just you can't, you can't do that, and kind of long story short.
Speaker 2:I realized that video was two years old and very negatively and cynically I'm like I'm going to fast forward. Look at this guy's latest YouTube video. There's no way he's still doing carnivore. And so I went and looked at his most recent video. You couldn't even recognize him. He lost all of his weight, huge smile on his face and he had so many of the same issues that I had IBS and depression and brain fog and things like that and he overcame all of those things. So that really really lit a fire and inspired me.
Speaker 2:I still wasn't ready to do it and then, like I kind of mentioned earlier, I went down the rabbit hole of research. I found Dr Ken Berry. I watched probably every single video that he's ever done and I was still in denial like what's this dude selling? Like you can? This dude selling? Like you can't? This guy's talking about eating bacon. There's gotta be some sales pitch. And I never found a sales pitch from Dr Berry.
Speaker 2:And then I saw I found Dr Philip Ovadia, because still my big concern, despite Dr Berry, was I got congestive heart failure. I can't clog my arteries up with meat. And I found Dr Philip Ovadia, heart surgeon, who's performed thousands of heart surgeries. He's eating this way. I'm like heart surgeon eating this way. A guy that does brain surgery eating this way. Dr Ken Berry, family medicine I'm seeing all these people. Dr Jordan Peterson I saw him on Joe Rogan. I'm like arguably whether you agree with the guy or not pretty smart guy and he's eating this way.
Speaker 2:So eventually, from all those good doctors, I decided I'm going to give this thing a try. I told myself I'm going to do this for 30 days as a strict elimination diet. I couldn't wrap my brain around just eating meat for 30 days. So I told myself I'm going to eliminate sugar and processed junk and all of this garbage that humans were never intended to eat. Essentially, I was telling myself I'm just going to eat meat because that's all that's left when you eliminate all that garbage. Basically, and that's sort of how I started.
Speaker 1:That's like such a common. You know, I feel like a lot of people, especially looking at like 2017, 2018, it's like you might have got exposed to the Sean Baker Joe Rogan episode. You might got exposed to something on Instagram, but I feel like a lot of people are like it's just Atkins all over again, kind of thing. Myself included. I did keto to start. I was like looking for some relief. I had some autoimmune issues. Former vegan for two years, I'm like ah man. So keto was great. But, like you, like I feel like I really didn't find the benefits until I really kind of eliminated a lot of different things and keto was just like there's so many keto treats and keto this and keto that, and it's just like you can't. It's like everything's stacked against you. But if you go to the carnivore diet, it's like, okay, this is my, my little wheelhouse and I stay in here, and the results really speak for themselves. You know now you've been so, how you've been carnivore for how long now.
Speaker 2:I'm coming up on 550 days 550 days Dang Awesome.
Speaker 1:What were the um kind of immediate effects like leading up and then? How are you feeling now with some of those issues you described earlier?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was incredible and I'm very thankful because not everyone has maybe as quick of results as I have, although lately, from what I've been seeing, it's been kind of incredible. The first thing for me was I stopped snoring and, like I said, I had a CPAP machine. For years I had to strap this mask to my face. I hated that thing so much. I stopped snoring immediately doing carnivore. My wife, my poor wife, for years she had to listen to me snore and then when I had the CPAP machine half the time, like I'd stop breathing, she says, like are you dead now? Now on carnivore, she's more worried because I don't make any noise and I sleep so calmly. She's kind of like, are you still there? Yeah, I stopped snoring right away on carnivore and honestly, that kind of made me mad and happy at the same time. I was mad because my sleep doctor I saw two different guys over the years, different CPAP machines, but they were just like you're way overweight, you got to lose a bunch of weight. You're not going to stop snoring until you lose a bunch of weight. And my neck was always very large and I was. I was like 100 pounds heavier at my heaviest. So I needed to lose weight. But in my brain that was the sole reason I was snoring and therefore I was pretty hopeless, like I'm never going to lose 100 pounds, like I've never been able to do that before. So I'm just going to snore forever. I saw Jordan Peterson, which we mentioned earlier on Joe Rogan and on his testimony he said to Joe Rogan I stopped snoring the first week on carnivore. So that's what Jordan Peterson said. Subsequently I've heard a lot of other people and I've since found the reason that I was snoring, and I believe many people are snoring. Sure, it doesn't help being 100 pounds overweight, that's going to cause a little bit of it. But most of the issue for many people is inflammation. Our tongues, our throats, our airways get inflamed and even if it's inflamed just a little tiny bit, that affects the volume of air that can go through your airway and you can end up snoring. So I stopped snoring right away. I was so happy about that.
Speaker 2:I had gone down the rabbit hole on sleep over the years. I had gone down the rabbit hole on sleep over the years. I've I watched like sleep specialists. There was this guy on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2:I remember years ago Matthew Walker talking about different ways to improve your sleep and throughout the years, with my horrible, horrible depression, I had the only thing that ever really touched. It was a little bit when I did keto, but I couldn't maintain it. I fell into the keto snacks and all of that as well, but whenever and this was rare. But whenever I get't maintain it, I fell into the keto snacks and all of that as well. But whenever and this was rare but whenever I'd get very good sleep, I could see the next day like whoa, I'm not as anxious or depressed. There was like a correlation there. So when I fixed that snoring, I was just thinking this is going to help with like a lot of things and it ended up helping with a lot of things. The depression, anxiety started subsiding as, like, my sleep improved.
Speaker 2:So a couple weeks into carnivore, my inflammation went down. I think that was like two weeks. Not the pain in my foot, the gout, that took a little bit longer, but I had. I had pain in my lower back for years and I didn't even know it was there, like I knew it was there, but I thought it was an injury. I thought I lifted something weird in high school. This is always going to be there it. It was like every night. My poor wife. I'm like could you rub my back? It hurts. And she'd rub it, it would never fix it. It went away, like within a couple of weeks on carnivore. I'm like this is crazy. And then I'm like I didn't even realize this, but I've always had this weird sort of achy tinge in my elbow that went away. Things that had become normal because Normal because I went along with them for years and years and decades and decades and they became my new normal. I started noticing going away. My mood started getting better, the sleep improved. One of the most remarkable things that happened was actually for my daughter, and one of the reasons that I did this I was kind of doing it as a science experiment for myself.
Speaker 2:My daughter Lily. She's 19 now, but she had open heart surgery at age 13. She suffered two blood clots a couple of years later, nearly died in her house. And since she was 13, she had this skin condition called HS. It looks like acne. It's incredibly painful. It was all over her chest, all over her back. It hurt her really, really bad, like she had open heart surgery, blood clots, and she was more worried about this HS. She came to me and her mom one day and she said this is so painful I just want to die. And we took her to five different dermatologists all over the state like expensive specialists. One of them gave her pills, one of them gave her a cream. One of them said we want to do an injection. And we tried everything and nothing worked.
Speaker 2:So when I was on day eight of carnivore, I had this epiphany. I was like, oh my goodness, like Lily, man, this is just the food you're eating. And I watched Jordan Peterson and his daughter, michaela Peterson, and she totally reminded me of Lily with all of her health issues. So I said, lily, I really think this is the food you're eating. It's almost like an allergic reaction and she was so desperate she decided to try it. Long story short sorry, I tend to ramble Eight days into her doing carnivore, half of her back had cleared up from the HS and she went on to do it for 30 days with me, all of it completely gone within 30 days. And this was five years that she suffered with this. And again, it made me mad because not one not one of those dermatologists that we went to in desperation ever mentioned nutrition, and that was entirely the cause and they were giving her pills and injections and things that never worked. So that got me very fired up.
Speaker 2:Then my depression and anxiety started lifting. Oh, my IBS. I think within a month, three weeks to a month, I'm like I can't feel my stomach. What is going on? My whole life it was always this heavy pressure in the stomach and I'm like I feel like I don't have a stomach anymore. And no more IBS, no more like farting 500 times a day like I used to do before. I just I started feeling just incredible and then my energy started going up. I remember waking up a couple of weeks into carnivore and telling my wife I'm like I feel like a kid again. I feel like my legs feel like they slept last night, like they're dead, like they just feel so rested. I just I feel incredible.
Speaker 2:And on my 30 days of doing carnivore I said I want to do one YouTube video on this. I've been doing YouTube for like eight or nine years on our homestead YouTube videos about chickens and goats and greenhouses. So I'm like I don't want to change the subject to this carnivore thing, but this is so remarkable I can do one video on it. So I did my 30 day update on carnivore diet video and it just went nuts and like I was really fired up and passionate. I was just telling the truth. Like this is crazy, what happened to me. I'm mad I didn't know about this before. I was just telling the truth. Like this is crazy, what happened to me. I'm mad I didn't know about this before. I'm going to continue doing this after 30 days, even though initially I told myself I'm just going to do 30 days, I'm going to go back to moderation. I'm like there's no way in hell I'm going back to moderation. I feel absolutely incredible right now.
Speaker 2:And that video took off and then I started getting comments from people that are like I had suicidal depression, like you did, carrie, five years ago. I went carnivore. It's all gone. I just comment after comment of people improving their mental health, type two diabetes, ibs reversing. I'm like this is incredible, like I thought this was just like me and Dante and a few people like Dr Barry talking about it. I'm like there's a lot of people doing this with success. Why didn't I know about this before? Or my daughter know about this before? And that's where I decided to do more videos and eventually decided I wanted to do a documentary about it it's mixed feelings, almost right.
Speaker 1:It's like you never knew how good you would, could feel, because you never felt that good and you have this relief. But it's also like you're saying you're like you're pissed off. It's like what, what have we been doing all of these years? And it's a very like you know, saying you're like you're pissed off. It's like what, what have we been doing all of these years? And it's a very like you know, go to the doctor, go here, go there. Well, it's just you want to. You know sleep apnea specialist or whatever it may be, and just changing the nutrition and gone. You know all of it all of it.
Speaker 2:I always show people this, but here's a little. These are like 15 to 20 pills in a container that I was on, and this isn't even all of them. I'm on zero medications now. I'm on nothing. My only medication is eating the proper human diet and I'm absolutely thriving. Every one of those things IBS, snoring, depression, anxiety, insomnia, every single one of the gout that I had in my foot. That took a little bit longer that was around day 70 avoided surgery on my foot, like it's. It was all just the nutrition and the foods we're eating. Yeah, it makes me. I'm happy. I'm happy for myself, like I figured this out, but then I'm also mad because people are going back to those same doctors and the only option that every single one of them are getting is well, here's some pill we it's, it's not utilized and not looked at.
Speaker 1:You know it's all the aftermath. Lifestyle and nutrition is really going to be the key and you know hospitals are really designed for. You know what they are designed for. You know I break my leg, I you know a pregnancy, an accident, whatever. But we are flooding in the hospitals for things that are 100% preventable and, unfortunately, everything is stacked up against us, even from your knee high to the ground cereal meals out of a box, processed food, ultra processed, highly palatable. It's really tough to navigate the landscape of food today versus 100 years. Know, a hundred years ago it's just night and day. So now you get all fired up and I'm with you and you want to start this documentary. Like what are the steps that you start to take? Cause I feel like that's a huge undertaking.
Speaker 2:I wish you would have told me that on day 67, when I announced it, because you get this carnivore energy and you get like a second chance at life to get really motivated. I had seen a documentary 15 years ago on Netflix called Fathead and it was about the ketogenic diet and it was a guy named Tom Naughton and he was I believe he was like a standup comedian. He'd never done a documentary before. I think he almost filmed it on like a camcorder or something, but the information was valuable, like the quality wasn't the best in the world and I. That was how I learned about keto and I thought Dr Barry and these good doctors, they're reaching a lot of people on YouTube, but not everyone's on YouTube. There's a lot more people on Netflix or these streaming services that aren't. They don't even know that this is an option. I guess I just wanted to get the word out to as many people as possible that were hopeless, like I was, with depression and anxiety. That was the main reason for the documentary is, and I've since been so blessed to interview, like Dr Georgia Ede, harvard-trained psychiatrist. She wrote the book Change your Diet, change your Mind, and so many of the people I talked to on my YouTube channel that had mental health issues depression, anxiety, ptsd overcame it by changing their diet and I'm like I wish I would have just had that as a tool in my toolbox. I probably still would have done the standard of care, but then I would have been like desperate. I could have tried this sort of thing. So on day 67, well, quick side story, my wife and I have triplets plus one. We have four girls. My older daughter, lily I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2:One of my girls, emma, was vegan for five years because she watched a Netflix propaganda vegan movie that kind of guilted her into doing this. Her mother and I were just like this is just a phase. She's going to do this for like two weeks and then horrible parents that we are went on for five years and she just started. She was suffering. She was so fatigued, acne she's going to bed at like 5.30, malnourished, and she decided to go carnivore and a lot of people give me a hard time Like I forced her to do it. I never even thought she would do it On her own. She decided to do carnivore, from going full vegan to eating a hard boiled egg to like the next day she's eating like fatty ribeye and absolutely thriving Like. It was insane. Her transformation, her acne cleared up, her mood improved like so quickly. She's younger, so maybe she's a little bit more resilient, but I always said to her she refuses to eat any meat unless she knows where it comes from. That had a good life. We get a lot of our meat from our neighbor. He's an independent sixth generation farmer. He names his cows. He's not putting any weird stuff there. The cows are grazing in the field. They have a good life. So I told Emma I'm like you're kind of like a compassionate carnivore.
Speaker 2:And then we decided to make a shirt Like that's a kind of a cool t-shirt, compassionate carnivore. And then I announced it on my YouTube channel. I'm like, well, wait a minute, I don't want to. What are you going to do? You got to sell the shirt, right? I'm like I don't want to profit and make a bunch of money off of this. I'm not patting myself on the back, I want to just do this as like a passion project and I'm like maybe we could make a documentary and any money we get from these shirts, foolishly thinking like we're going to fund this whole documentary with some shirt sales.
Speaker 2:That was how it all came about, and my daughter Emma and I, on day 67, we're like we're going to do this documentary and in my head, though, I'm like we'll just do whatever. It's the words and the stories that matter. But I announced right from that day I want to do it about the stories. I'm hearing so many stories on my YouTube channel and I don't think I could tell anyone. Just eat, like I eat, just trust me, just eat carnivore. No one's going to listen, but you can inspire people and they could see someone like Bill in Alaska or Jeff DeProsperous. They could see their story and maybe it'll inspire them to want to change. So that was the idea from day one, but I had no idea what I was getting into. We have since like it's absolutely incredible what's happened since then. We have a whole team of like volunteers and I'm really excited with the quality, the cinematography, like what we're getting in the documentary. But that was day 67.
Speaker 2:And then, from there, I did a 10-hour live stream all about Carnivore, and I had some of the good doctors and individuals share their stories. We did that to raise initial funds for the documentary. Then I met Bill Knott in Alaska. He was 700 pounds stuck in his house for four, almost five years and he sent me this message about his horrible, suicidal depression and his words just resonated with me and three weeks later my daughter, emma, and I flew out to Alaska and he was the first person we filmed for the documentary. We were able to raise some funds through that 10-hour live stream we did. We later did a 24-hour live stream and probably like 200 other, just individual carnivore stories and every penny we get from super chats, from live stream, from donation, goes a hundred percent towards the documentary. I'm not taking a salary, I'm not making a penny off of it, but that's how. That's how it all sort of started was just kind of a crazy foolish idea. That's really evolved into something bigger now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I said, it's a huge undertaking. I've had Vinny Tortorich on here a few times and you know I've talked to him and he's just like you don't get into documentaries like this to make money Like he goes. If you break even, you're lucky.
Speaker 2:I have heard that over and over again. Yeah, if we, if you get any little gas money, like 70 cents at the end of it, you might. It's not a thing to make money. And, on the flip side, like we're making it even crazier because initially I'm like we'll just try to get this on Netflix or one of these things. We're trying to get it on the big screen. There's not that many documentaries that end up on the big screen but in order to do that the quality has to be superb, like we have. We had to get Netflix approved cameras just to make sure we could even get on Netflix. So it's, it's really. It's really come a long way. But that was on day 67. I'm on day 550 now, so that was 480 days ago.
Speaker 2:We have we filmed over 30 interviews so far, including most of the good doctors Dr Ovadia, we filmed Dr Berry down in Tennessee, dr Chafee, dr Baker, dr Kiltz, dr Tony Hampton out in Chicago. We filmed some just incredible stories and then a whole bunch of individual stories. Since then, bill Knott's been the big one. My daughter Emma and I just got back a couple of weeks ago from Alaska filming Bill Knott. One year later, the whole premise of the documentary is we'll follow several individuals for one year doing a proper human diet for different health issues, and then we'll have a whole bunch of other people in the middle of the documentary that have already done one year, so just to. Otherwise the thing's going to be like 12 hours long, but we just filmed Bill after one year and that was pretty, pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, talk about Bill, because he's definitely. I mean, I only saw a little clip. You know a few like clips here and there, but he seemed like a fan favorite for sure.
Speaker 2:Everybody loves him. It's it's insane. It is so incredible because when Bill reached out to me, I could have like I had probably a thousand people that said, yeah, film me, I'll be in your documentary, and I didn't spend hours and hours. I'm just like what this guy is saying just resonates with me. He's speaking from the heart. The fact that we picked Bill and it all worked out is a miracle. It is absolutely insane.
Speaker 2:Three weeks later I went out to film him. I'm driving there with my teenage daughter. I'm like this guy could be an ax murderer, I don't know. We just met this dude on the internet. He's like come out to my house. I'm flying to Alaska to film him. He's since started. We started a GoFundMe. We helped him get his GoFundMe going because meat in Alaska is so expensive. We were hoping to raise 1500 bucks, I think. Within like a couple of weeks it was at like $17,000. And then it's gone up crazy since then. So he has enough money to pay for meat to get him through the whole year, which was nuts.
Speaker 2:And he's in this small house. He hadn't left his house in four or five years. So when Emma and I went there and met him, he's just the sweetest, nicest guy, but we were like I was scared. I'm like this is crazy. This isn't even a house, it's more of a room and he's not even stuck in the room. He's literally stuck in the bed. He can just barely walk to the toilet eight feet away and he's hunched over. He couldn't stand up straight. He was always hunched over. He had to have his hands on his knees and he slept hunched over. And when we left, I'm like I believe he has the resolve, I believe in Bill to do this, but it's probably too late. He's 700 pounds. He had a fib, heart issues, lymphedema, all sorts of swelling, but it's been incredible. He started a YouTube channel. He was on disability before this because he's stuck in his house, 700 pounds. He just within a couple months he got off of disability. He's supporting himself through his own YouTube channel, stuck in his house, without ever even being able to leave. I'm like that's incredible by itself. He's built up a big fan base. Everyone loves him because he's just such a nice, genuine, sweet person.
Speaker 2:And, yeah, a year went by, believe it or not, and Emma and I went there to film him one year later. So last year when we went there, I knocked on his door. He couldn't even get up to answer the door. He waved us through in the window and we went inside. This time I knocked on the door. Everyone's gonna have to watch. Watch it in the documentary.
Speaker 2:But he came outside and into the beauty of Alaska and we filmed him at Hatcher's Pass, alaska, which is one of the most beautiful places, I think, on the whole planet, and it's just incredible. He's down over 260 pounds in one year. He's standing up straight. He could barely walk eight feet before he can. He can walk like 80 feet now with no issue. He's walking upright.
Speaker 2:And the most valuable, important thing of all of this was just a couple of weeks into doing carnivore. Of course he had to lose a lot of weight, being 700 pounds. Something more important happened for him he overcame depression and anxiety. This black hole, dark depression he suffered from for years and years and years, just vanished. It was incredible. I was so happy for him when he told me that and that was another thing that got me fired up about this documentary. Like everyone we're interviewing is doing it for one reason, but almost every one of them is like my mental health is so much better than before, even if they weren't depressed. The brain fog goes away, the anxiety goes away and you just you feel like you've never felt before. So, yeah, he's awesome. Bill Knott N-O-T-T. On YouTube. If anyone wants to. He does a video every week. I'm like I'm a super fan myself. I'm like watching it all the time, just staying up to date.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he gave. He did a little like kind of self video for the crowd at Hack your Health and everybody was just clapping. They're like, yeah, yeah, it was great. And and you're right about the whole like netflix thing and trying to get it onto netflix. And you know, you have the production of like game changers, you know, by james cameron. Like that is something that I had.
Speaker 1:People that I knew that were like you know what, I'm gonna go vegan because of game changers. It's like, because it's, it's a very like. As you watch it, it's like, wow, this is amazing. This is like so well done, it's gotta be true. Well, I think they did a post like I think it was like last year or something, where all the people that were in game changers, like they're, either those athletes are either hurt or they're not doing vegan or vegetarian anymore. So that's like out the door. Um, you know, blue zones and things like that. It's, it's. It's something that I think that we need. You know, cause combating forks over knives.
Speaker 1:When that came out, I was victim to that. I'm like, oh, I'm going vegan for sure. Man, like it's right there. It says I'm watching the doc of this science. You know it's all good, but then my health started to deteriorate and I couldn't figure out why I'm doing exactly what I should be doing. But, um, but to get those shots and get everything it's, it's gotta be tough and it's gotta be really hard. Uh, and you also, like Bill, is was like one of the highlights. But Maggie on the ranch how was hanging with Maggie, oh my goodness, maggie's incredible.
Speaker 2:So for those that don't know, maggie is 83 years old now. She's a rancher from Canada and she's been eating a carnivore diet for over 65 years and we have a little trailer we did where she's flexing her muscles on the camera. Nobody believes that she's 83. She's got blonde hair like her hair isn't even gray. Besides that, like people see that visual and it's so amazing to them. But I'm just like you haven't seen anything yet. Wait till you see her in the documentary. Just talking, I had to keep reminding myself and my buddy Adam, who's filming with me. Huge shout out to Adam. She seemed like a teenager. She had the energy of a teenager. She's jumping over fences, climbing up on farm equipment, running around nonstop all day long, like putting me and Adam to shame, as we're a little earlier in our carnivore journey than she was. I'm like she just doesn't stop. She was incredible and so much wisdom and, like I said, we've filmed over 31 interviews so far.
Speaker 2:Almost every single one of those folks had some sort of mental health component or some other issue. Maggie nothing, nothing, no mental health issues, never sick, nothing Like she doesn't. She's like I don't get sick. People are like does she dye her hair. She's like I don't put anything in my hair, I don't use any skincare. People are saying does she use skincare because she looks so young? I, she used skincare because she looked so young. I just eat a proper human diet. She said when you put the proper fuel in the tank, the engine just keeps going and going and going.
Speaker 2:And one of the crazy things with her, I'm like you're 83. The average life expectancy, sadly, right now is in the 70s. People are dying in their 70s. Are you ever going to retire? And she got mad at me. I thought she was going to slap me. She's like why would I retire? It's like are you nuts? She's like I'm just getting started. And she said you can laugh at me if you want, but I believe at 83 that I am middle-aged and I'm going to live to be 120. No problem, and I totally believe her and I've since I've talked to Dr Chafee and some of these other doctors the science behind it. Most humans should be living to be 120. If our bodies weren't in a state of chronic and systemic inflammation from the foods we're not supposed to be eating, that we're eating, probably all of us would be living well into our 100s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maggie was incredible, you know, like the cinematography and everything. I'm very proud of what we're doing, but one of the things that we're doing different than I've seen in any other documentary, is these stories are so emotional and you get connected with these individuals like Bill, like Maggie, like Jeff DeProsperous. I don't see that in a lot of other documentaries, even some of the good ones with really good cinematography. A lot of times they're flashy, they look great, but some of them get kind of boring. They get into all the science which you have to have and we're going to definitely have the science and the experts in our documentary, but really the difference with ours is just this emotional connection.
Speaker 2:When you start watching our documentary and you see Bill Nott, 700 pounds, crying, stuck in his house in Alaska, and then we go to the next person, are you going to be like, oh, I'm good, I don't want to see if Bill gets out a year later or if he's still stuck there. It's hard not to get connected with some of these personal stories. I think that's how we can really change things, for people is like I said earlier, not telling them you do a carnivore diet, but look, this is what Bill did. This is what happened. This is what Maggie did. This is what happened, and try to inspire them that way.
Speaker 1:And you're going to get like these. You get the doctors, you get the personalized stories and, you know, and especially with Maggie, you're going to get some different information. I think she's also talked about, like how the soil doesn't have the right nutrients anymore and there's like all these like forever chemicals and things like that into the plants.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100 percent. She didn't care about carnivore. Her main issue and I've been trying to do a good job of this and we're going to in the documentary too is the importance of soil health. She said you look at a carrot in the store that everybody praises. Oh, it's so good for you, you got to eat your vegetables. She's like that has one seventh the nutrients in it that it would have even 50 years ago. I'm like why is that, maggie? And she said because we're scorching our soils. It's just chemicals, it's monocropping.
Speaker 2:It used to be mom, pop farmer or farmers like Maggie that would do it properly and the cow would poop out into the soil and then the soil would have nutrients and bacteria and minerals in it and you put a seed in there. The nutrients and the minerals and all that good stuff goes into that seed. You don't have it anymore. They're just scorching it with glyphosate and chemicals. You get a pretty carrot at the end because you're putting chemical fertilizer on it. It's got a green leaf and you think you're doing something great, but you're eating a carrot that's got one seventh the nutrients it used to. Plus, you're ingesting glyphosates and pesticides and forever chemicals and I believe that's a huge issue. It was a recent sort of carnivore epiphany for me. All these 550 days or so I've been on carnivore, I'm like I'm doing so good because I'm eating a proper human diet. I'm doing so good because I'm in ketosis. I'm doing so good because I'm not eating highly inflammatory foods that I'm not supposed to.
Speaker 2:All of those things are true, but I think a bigger piece of the puzzle that I'm exploring more and in the documentaries are gut bacteria and our gut biome. And when you eat a carrot that's got pesticides on it, what is that doing to our gut bacteria? I think it's not doing very good things. I know when you have antibiotics it destroys your gut bacteria and that could set people back years. A lot of people don't know that how much we've misused antibiotics and our our gut bacteria.
Speaker 2:Like Hippocrates said this 2000 years ago, all disease starts in the gut. You are what you eat your immune system, your hormones, everything. When you have good gut biome, that affects everything in your body. So I think a big part of the problem that goes maybe underreported is Dr Chafee talks about plants are going to kill you. There's toxins I agree with that. There's's pesticides glyphosate People talk about that a little bit. But what is all of this stuff doing to our gut, biome, gut bacteria? Because people that are even doing just a clean vegetarian diet are still suffering with depression and IBS and all of these issues. And it makes sense when you take into account that all of those things are saturated with pesticides and glyphosate.
Speaker 1:It's just everywhere now People like Maggie right, they're doing this, they want to do good. They want to do it more traditional, less chemicals. And I just had Sean Baker on the podcast and one of the things that he was saying, he goes. I'm not misquoting him, I don't think he's like the average cattle rancher is. The age is like 65. So we're not getting more people or younger people into this cattle ranch business of where it used to be mom and pop, but there's now conglomerates and companies that are taking over and you know who's going to feed us in 20 years? It's going to be big companies and I feel, like the American healthcare system, the food industry, like we got to start making shifts or else it is only going to be downhill from here and there's only going to be and it's going to be stuff like healing humanity and podcasts and things where this grassroots movement to kind of steer people in the right direction.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm so glad you mentioned that. That's going to be one of the biggest takeaways At the end of the documentary. One of the big takeaways is going to be not that I'm eating a carnivore diet and that fixed everything, but I believe eating a carnivore diet is the closest I can return to what's natural for humans, given the 60,000 options in the grocery store right now. And that includes carrots and vegetables and produce, for the reasons I mentioned before, with glyphosate and pesticides and stuff like that. But the other big takeaway is the importance of supporting your local farmer soil health. What do we do about this?
Speaker 2:I get a lot of my meat, like I mentioned earlier, from my neighbor sixth generation farmer. The guy is so underappreciated. He works a full-time job in a factory Every single day. I drive by. If I drive by his house at four in the morning, he's working in the fields. If I drive by at like 10 PM at night, he's working in the fields. And in between he's got a full-time job working for pennies on the dollar. He's so passionate, he loves what he's doing.
Speaker 2:But to your point, I said the same thing. I'm like who's going to raise their hand and be like I want to do what that guy? But if I didn't even have him, I would drive three hours once a month, throw a couple of coolers in the back of the truck, meet my local farmer, shake his hand, know where my meat's coming from and know that I'm. Know that I'm doing like a good thing supporting someone that I want to support and keep there. It would totally fill up the freezer for a month or whatever and it would totally be worth the drive for that versus just going to the grocery store and getting who knows what kind of thing.
Speaker 1:I think that it's growing. I feel like more people than ever have asked me about carnivore. You know, oh, I heard you do carnivore. I heard you only me. You know, you know, was a. Jason Statham met with Anthony Chafee, eddie Hall, you know, got it. Jason Statham met with Anthony Chafee, eddie Hall, you know, got some tips from Sean Baker and so like, now we're getting these. What was the vegan right? That was like you had the vegan celebrities and that was this thing. Now we're, slowly but surely, people are starting to who are, you know, influential really take on this diet and, you know, talk about it. The other thing I want to talk I want to talk about Jeff as well, because I know that you mentioned him earlier. I believe he suffered from cancer and can you kind of tell us about you know Jeff's story and how he's utilizing lifestyle nutrition to kind of battle cancer?
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100%, kind of like Bill. I ended up finding this guy online and he's become a best friend of mine, jeff DeProsperous. He's got a YouTube channel called Blessings on my Journey. He was diagnosed a couple of years back with stage four cancer. They told him Jeff, you're inoperable, incurable, you're terminal and you have about 18 months left to live. He had cancer that had spread throughout his body and he was doing the standard American diet when he was first diagnosed with cancer. He started on chemotherapy and he was suffering. He was sick and fatigued and, as you hear, with chemotherapy it's pretty tough for a lot of people. And through a friend of his, dwight, who's an amazing, amazing person, put him on to Ben Bickman and some other YouTube videos and the carnivore diet and Dwight had done the carnivore diet and Jeff decided to start. Jeff also did a plant-based diet for like a year and he believes that that might have actually perpetuated the cancer because he was ending up a lot of the stuff he was eating just converts to glucose which ends up feeding the cancer. He started carnivore a little while into his cancer journey, while he's getting chemotherapy, and it just changed his life forever. He's like chemotherapy, so much more bearable. He wasn't getting sick. He's in his forties. He's like I feel like I'm 20. Similar to Maggie.
Speaker 2:We went to film him for about five days out in Canada, could barely keep up with him. I literally got there and he had two pages. This is our itinerary. This is everything we're going to do. We're going to go to the osteopath, we're going to go work out at the gym. I got to coach tomorrow. All these things we're going to go do the cold plunge and it was just incredible.
Speaker 2:The thing with Jeff is he follows Professor Thomas Seyfried, who's been talking about cancer as a metabolic disease for like 30 years now, and talking about cancer as a metabolic disease for like 30 years now. And Jeff's whole thing is he's not saying oh, if you do a carnivore diet, you're going to cure cancer, but cancer feeds on sugar, cancer feeds on glucose, so if you're starving of that, it's probably helping. Even if you don't believe all of that, the fact that Jeff overcame depression doing carnivore diet, the fact that Jeff feels like he's 20, the fact that chemotherapy is more bearable, the fact that Jeff feels like he's 20, the fact that chemotherapy is more bearable, the fact that he feels like his immune system is so much stronger on a carnivore diet. He's like. All of those reasons are good reasons to be doing something like this when you're going through a cancer battle like he is.
Speaker 2:So he's incredible. He's so inspiring and besides that, he also the thing that's incredible talk about a warrior. This guy has done, at last count, 43 five-day fasts every other week. So he'll do carnivore for a week and then he'll fast for five days water-only fast, and in the middle of the fast he'll get his chemotherapy and there's a lot of evidence around that helping with the chemotherapy and actually needing less chemotherapy medicine when you're doing that sort of thing. So he's, he's incredible. He's like the energizer Bonnie. He's just a warrior. So we filmed him for about five days in the documentary as well.
Speaker 1:This episode was recorded on September 17. Unfortunately, jeff to prosperous passed away on September 29, 2024. Unfortunately, jeff DeProsperous passed away on September 29th 2024. I want to take a moment to acknowledge his impact and spirit. Jeff was a true inspiration, bringing light and strength to those around him. Our hearts and prayers go out to Jeff's family. Please consider supporting the DeProsperous family through GoFundMe and watch Carrie Mann's tribute to Jeff. All links will be located in the show notes.
Speaker 1:It's really amazing like finding these people who are willing to give these things a try.
Speaker 1:You know, and it could be the curiosity of the, of the diet, but it's also like if your back's against the wall, you're going to try anything and if all these things haven't been working, you got to start somewhere and you're going to take whatever avenue possible.
Speaker 1:And it seems like these things are helping people's health and lives and kind of also to the doctors as well. You know we already mentioned like a Kenberry Chafee Ovadia, like these guys are going against the grain and kind of putting their careers on the line, saying hey, like I, like a Philip Ovadia. Like these guys are going against the grain and kind of putting their careers on the line, saying hey, like I like a Phillip Ovadia get off my operating table. I don't want you here. I want to keep you off of the operating table and get you metabolically healthy, uh, for a lifespan, uh, and utilize the hospitals for what they're designed to, but without them, without people trying this and really questioning why. That's a piece too, it's like, just because the doctor says something like question those things and you might need second opinions and really got to do your own. Unfortunately, you have to kind of your own research as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, 100%. I'm with you. Like I was wondering early on I'd meet other carnivores. I'm like man, this person's just awesome. And then I was thinking, why do I like carnivores? I'm like maybe it's because they're kind of just, they're brave. You gotta be, you gotta be kind of brave to do this. It pretty much goes against everything you've ever been told. And then I was thinking about these doctors and I'm like imagine the scrutiny they have to go through to go against the grain that, like you said, they're risking their career with their colleagues and things like that. So I have so much.
Speaker 2:I'm always shouting out these good doctors. I don't know that I would have started carnivore without them. And I'm hoping that other doctors I believe most doctors mean well, like a lot of the doctors that prescribed me all the medication I showed you. But if you became a doctor because you want to heal people and you're not asking them about nutrition or treating the root cause, you got to change something up.
Speaker 2:People give me a hard time. They're like well, don't blame the doctors, that's just the system. But I'm like, on the other hand, I say I barely graduated high school and I was able to figure this out for myself. They're dedicating their life to healing people. They should be able to figure out that nutrition is a big part of this and that they should be treating the root cause. Now I get the argument that they'll talk about nutrition to a lot of people and people will never listen, because it's really hard to get people to change their diets. However, if someone is suicidally depressed, they should have this as a tool in their toolbox, and I was never given this as a tool in my toolbox, and a lot of people weren't. The only option I was ever given was was medication.
Speaker 1:so talking to somebody about nutrition is almost like saying hey, I need you to change your religion. Yeah, you know politics change your politics change your religion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to pull them out of the matrix. You know I for me, I I utilize carnivore for a lot of different things for my health and wellness and well-being, but I really utilize it after I've healed myself. You know I had autoimmune issues. You mentioned antibiotics, like I was going through doxycycline like crazy, and actually I was getting worse and it wasn't until I kicked all that and then I went on to carnivore diet. But I utilize it for, like endurance events, like Ironman events, you know, working out.
Speaker 1:And I just went to something I just had a podcast earlier with somebody and we were talking about. I went to this workshop about fueling athletes and I'll go and I'll listen and I'm just curious I know it wasn't going to be a carnivore thing, but what they were telling people and everybody in the in the room is nodding their heads and I just was dumbfounded like the amount of carbohydrates and sugary things and how many times they're eating throughout the day. I'm like I'm carnivore, I don't even eat that much. I couldn't even just looking at what they were telling the athletes or trainers to prescribe for their athletes and nutrition. It was crazy. And then we all got these little baggies. I swear to God, I'm not even joking there was Pringles in there. There was Pringles in there.
Speaker 2:I despise Pringles, by the way.
Speaker 1:Gummy, like fruit snack gummies, there was all kinds of stuff. It was like basically candy and like, oh yeah, have this before your run and then you're going to have to have a post-run meal, uh, and then you're going to have to have this and that. And like the amount of carbohydrates, I'm like I did a freaking Ironman on less than 50 carbs. Don't tell me like you need you know over 500 carbs for a 5k, like that's. It doesn't make sense, but that's what is the norm. And you know Casey Ruff right? Yeah, I literally cause me and him work together for my Ironman. I literally texted him as soon as I left. I'm like dude incoming long texts, get ready. And I was just like describing all this stuff and I took a picture of my goodie bag. He's like man, I can't believe that. I'm like yo, we got a lot of work to do. Like this is really bad.
Speaker 1:And people were asking about like hey, I have a lot of gut issues. I want to do fasted running or fasted workouts. I heard that helps. And the person just shot them down and I wasn't even going to say nothing, but I raised my hand. I was like, listen, I did, I do a lot of faster workouts. I think if you want to explore that, you should do that. You know this dietician basically just denied it. I was like try it, it's self-expiration. If it works for you, great.
Speaker 2:If that heals that gut and GI distress do that, but we're in this whole, like everybody just stuck in the matrix and then we got to pull them out. It's crazy. I went on my own rant there. No, I love it, man. I'm glad you mentioned Pringles. I had a.
Speaker 2:This is my brother-in-law that came over for the weekend and he's anti-carnivore. He thinks I'm crazy and he's got this big container of Pringles sitting on the counter and I'm like I I would be mad if my dog ate one of those things. That's like how bad those are for you. The whole food thing too, like you were mentioning. That was the other story with Jeff DeProsper that made him so angry. He'd go in for chemotherapy treatments and they'd come around with similar junk like you just described. Here's cookies for you, here's Ensure for you. While he's trying. That's like I'm trying to think of the analogy he used. It's like you're. It's like you're drowning and they throw you some weights instead. It's like you're drowning and they throw you some weights instead. It's completely opposite of what you should be doing. It's just all hospital food and then the food that we're feeding our children in the schools is all completely backwards and messed up.
Speaker 2:The reason for doing this documentary was depression, anxiety. There's so many health issues in the world right. But the real issue now that the reason I'm so passionate about it is children and this next generation. You mentioned earlier processed food, ultra processed food. I feel like I grew up on processed food and I ate pretty bad and I suffered horribly. And this next generation is like the ultra processed food generation. It's way worse than I ate. These kids walking around with the Starbucks and it's just full of sugar. They're just mainlining sugar and high fructose corn syrup and seed oils and all these ingredients we can't pronounce. I really feel like it's going to be a big awakening soon, like what is going on with this next generation and their health and it should be no surprise. But it's like you said, we're in the matrix and everyone's just like, oh, it's just the way it's always been, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we're sicker than ever, you know. You know you got that. You got the people, you got their stories, what's left Like, what's going to be the next step here or upcoming? And if you don't want to share or give anything away, you don't have to.
Speaker 2:No, I'm happy to. We've done 31 interviews so far, but we still have more to do. We just filmed Bill one year later. We're still got to film Jeff and Mimi one year later, and that happens near the end of the year. So many people, myself included, are excited for the documentary. Like when's it going to be done? I'm like the premise is to follow people over a year and some of them haven't hit a year yet, so that's why it's taken a little while. And we still have a couple of good doctors we're going to be filming. Near the end of this year we're going to be filming Dr Georgia Ede down in Florida.
Speaker 2:And another big announcement that's pretty incredible is in January we're going to be filming Tammy Peterson, jordan Peterson's wife, in Arizona. She also was diagnosed with terminal cancer. She's been carnivore for a long time. It was so funny. We were filming down in Austin, all of the good doctors Dr Baker, dr Kiltz and I got an email from someone and it said I've been watching your YouTube channel and I've been enjoying it. I'd love to have you on my podcast. It was signed Tammy Peterson. I'm like Tammy. What Like Tammy Peterson's watching my YouTube channel? This is so weird. Long story short. I went on her podcast. I was like, please, I would love to share your story. We have a whole cancer segment. You were diagnosed with terminal cancer. You've been doing carnivore and she agreed to be in the documentary. And then she emailed me back and she said oh, by the way, jordan watched your teaser trailer too and he just tweeted it out. And he watched your teaser trailer too and he just tweeted it out and he has like six million followers. I was like what is going on and talk about surreal? I, I just I still can't wrap my brain around. So we're going to be going to the peterson family home and filming, uh, tammy peterson, at the end of the year. So we're hoping to wrap everything up, uh, near the end of the year.
Speaker 2:Uh, for the documentary, but uh, long story short, there's so much that we can't fit it all in the documentary. But, long story short, there's so much that we can't fit it all in the documentary. So we've already decided we're already like editing some of this together we're going to do a series afterwards where we can do a whole episode just on cancer, a whole episode just on depression, a whole episode on fertility issues, and I believe it'll probably go on forever because in the last just couple of months, the number of incredible stories that have been coming through, I'm like wait, wait, we got to include this. And then it's like we're never going to get the documentary done if we keep including these. So those will go on the series afterwards and then even after that, we're going to do personal stories.
Speaker 2:So you can watch just a Bill Nott, all of his story. You can watch Dr Kiltz, who, by the way, incredible doctor, amazing individual carnivore story of his own. You can watch a whole Dr Kiltz episode, a whole Jeff DeProsperous episode. So, and then we're just going to keep. We're just going to keep doing it. Going forward is the plan.
Speaker 1:What can people do, myself or anybody else, to help with this project?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So the thing I'm very proud about is our entire documentary is crowdfunded and I'm never taking a salary. I haven't taken a penny. I put thousands of dollars of my own money in it. What does that mean? Like some people don't know this, but sadly most documentaries many, some that we mentioned earlier here most documentaries nowadays are sponsored by some corporation. You'll get a Blue Zones documentary and then you find out it's sponsored by Beyond Meat or some vegan company or Kellogg's or some sugar company or some pharmaceutical. Ours has been entirely crowdfunded, so there's no bias. I'm just telling the truth If it's good or even if it's bad. I did carnivore. It didn't work Like I'm putting the truth in there. So if you want to donate, it's donatehealinghumanitymovie and again, every penny from that goes towards the documentary. We're also selling, like Healing Humanity, shirts and memberships on my site. Everything goes 100% towards the documentary. I'm never going to take a salary. I want to do this and I want to get done with it and have it be a complete passion project. That I didn't do for some perverse incentive, as Dr Barry calls it. He says a lot of this reason that we're so messed up is because of all the perverse incentives. Everything is money, and I wanted to do something just for the passion of it. So, and if you can't donate, the other way you can help is just maybe sharing the teaser trailer that we have. If you go to HealingHumanitymovie, you can watch our teaser trailer. It's like three minutes long. A lot of people are beginning to fire up with that. You share that on Facebook, spread it around. We appreciate that as well.
Speaker 2:The ultimate thing you can do as an individual, though, is heal yourself. People say healing humanity. That's an audacious like how dare you? How are you going to heal humanity? And Dr Kiltz said it best. He's like it's really easy. Best, he's like it's really easy. You just heal yourself. I'll heal myself. We all heal ourselves, and the best way to do that is just to return to what is natural for humans. Carnivore diet is the most natural thing I can do, but just returning to what is natural in your diet, in your everyday activity, not sitting on a screen all day, getting sunshine, exercise, fresh air, things like that. I think if, once we heal ourselves, we, we become sort of this ripple effect and then other people heal and so, uh, those are some of the ways I think you can, you can help out.
Speaker 1:That's amazing. I'm super excited for this whole project to come out. I will be getting a t-shirt and I will be donating, for sure, and uh spreading it out and putting everything in the show notes so that uh anybody that comes across the clips or whatever uh has access to the donation link. So, man, this was awesome. I appreciate everything you're doing in the space and this is an awesome project and it needs to be done, and so I thank you for your time and your efforts, and I know it's a lot, but I myself appreciate it, amongst others. So thank you.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. I really appreciate it others. So thank you oh thank you so much.
Speaker 1:It's been a pleasure. I really appreciate it, Tony, Awesome. And thanks for everybody listening to another episode of the Primal Foundations podcast. Thank you all for joining us. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe, like and share. See you all next time on the Primal Foundations podcast.