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Ep. 66: The Lynn Burdick Mystery
How does a small-town disappearance echo some of the most notorious unsolved mysteries of our time? Join us as we explore the mysterious case of Lynn Burdick, a young woman whose sudden vanishing has perplexed investigators and haunted her community for decades. We unravel the tangled web of conflicting reports and potential suspects, drawing haunting parallels with other cases like Maura Murray’s. Our journey seeks to unearth the truth and bring justice to those whose promising futures were abruptly cut short.
Our exploration delves into the unique challenges of investigating crimes in close-knit communities where everyone knows each other and local biases can obscure the truth. Through a critical lens, we re-evaluate the immediate assumption of an outsider’s involvement in Lynn’s disappearance. We question the rationale behind searching the woods for a body without clear evidence of foul play and consider overlooked local suspects. The episode emphasizes the vital importance of fresh perspectives and highlights the insights that could be drawn from literature by seasoned prosecutors who have tackled similar cases.
With a chilling narrative, we link Lynn's disappearance to another unsettling incident that occurred on the same fateful night, reminiscent of infamous figures like Ted Bundy. This episode also reflects on the emotional toll on families like Lynn’s, who continue to seek closure. We extend a heartfelt call to action to keep these cold cases alive in public discourse and inspire ongoing support within our community. Amidst the weighty topic, we cherish the unexpected support from our listeners, urging everyone to stay connected and engaged in our quest for answers.
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Speaker 2:What the hell See, wilante, you'll be more comfortable honest.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, oh, sorry guys, this is. This is ADHD at work. All right, rob, this is Okay. What happens when your wife asks me about a case that lives in my head? And then I went down a spiral, so I don't know what we're going to do with this one.
Speaker 2:Mind you, we had at least a 20, 30-minute conversation before this Okay. Hi, I'm Hannah and I'm Courtney. Join us as we delve into true crime, paranormal encounters and all things spooky.
Speaker 1:Grab your flashlight and get ready to wander into the darkness with us. This is W Wander. This is probably just me rambling for myself, but Hannah and I were sitting in our living room and you guys all know how the missing case of Lynn Burdick gets under my skin. I came across an article that somebody had posted just about a month ago and read the whole article. You know, cover to cover, texted my mom. But I just keep going down the rabbit hole of of where did she go? The first thing I'm seeing is details are very like, sporadic, like some places are saying this is the amount of money that was missing and this is the, and it seems so insignificant. But some places are saying this is the amount of money that was missing and this is the, and it seems so insignificant. But even like some places are saying her cousin called it or was her brother who called?
Speaker 2:the timeline is really the only super consistent part and they also thought that lewis lent has something to do with this, but I'm thinking based off what we know.
Speaker 1:I don't think it was him I don't think so either, so I'm reading a different. I'm using the charlie project now. That's another resource that I'm kind of reading for the first time. Something that really gives me the chills is when they talk about who this person is first, I just I read about her family and I just feel for them. I mean, we were talking earlier and there was that prosecutor who wrote a book and he, when they asked him, why didn't you link?
Speaker 1:him to her I had no idea he was like who I didn't even know, Because back then I mean that just wasn't Yep. Anyways, I agree with the authorities and all the accounts I've read so far. She didn't run away and they're on the same exact time. That really bothers me. They did do updated sketches, everybody and hannah. Because I don't know what we're gonna do with this, I'm just gonna podcast it as if we are um passion project to put this one in the vault of passion projects.
Speaker 1:But I I just feel like the updated sketches were you wouldn't just update a sketch for no reason, right, you know what I'm saying. Like you're talking 2022, from the 80s, why would they just have recently with no lead? But I'm like you know what would be a great time to update these sketches? Right the fuck now. So they did update the sketches. I'm also reading and again, I don't fact checking, I don't know, I'm just doing like a rough. I find something. There's the village.
Speaker 2:Sorry, everybody christmas village is going off. When I find something new.
Speaker 1:I'm just copying and pasting it to another note app um, but it says in 1995 burdick's father received an anonymous letter postmarked from boston from a man stating that his daughter had been abducted and murdered by a man in north adams. Authorities are familiar with the suspect named in the letter and pleaded for the letter author to come forward with more information. North adams is near florida and is believed that burdick's case could have been connected to the mentioned suspect, who was interviewed extensively by police. But there is no evidence to support this theory. The writer remains unidentified and authorities do not know if the note was a hoax or if it was legitimate. And then it just goes into who she was, which is also important. So I'll read it, but it just drops right off of that.
Speaker 1:She was a senior. She went to McCann Vocational Technical High School in 1982. She was about to go through all of that spring prom graduation stuff. She wanted to be a cartoonist. She was going to graduate with high honors and she was known as very studious, well-behaved. She took care of her chronically ill mother. She volunteered with several charities that assisted people with disabilities. She was a caretaker. She was the youngest of four and she had planned to stay home after graduation to help take care of her mom, um to hopefully save up enough money to go to college. She did not have a driver's license, she did not have a car and she was not dating anyone at the time of her murder or disappearance.
Speaker 2:Presumed murder it just seems like the perfect crime it's like maura murray all over again it's too perfect. And like you's, like Maura Murray, all over again it's too perfect.
Speaker 1:And like you bring up Maura Murray, it just I don't know.
Speaker 2:Maura Murray is like something that lives right free in my head. Maura Murray is your Lynn Burdick. It is Maura Murray she really is. I don't know. Just drove away to get away and like all these things perfectly came together and we have no idea what happened.
Speaker 2:Just like I'm getting passionate people like what is going on like what happened to these women, these women that had so much going for them, that were smart, that came from, you know. I mean, well, it sounds like limberdick came from a good family. I honestly I'm not sure about maura murray. It sounds like there was, but you know, every family has every family has a shit. I mean, I feel like yeah, because, like I mean, we all sat around here earlier court and we were, like you know, family drama, like everyone has it it just is inevitable.
Speaker 2:No one's family is perfect and we know that. But especially as you get older, you get different personalities and we get set in our ways. But I don't know, know, just like you said, 100 yards, like several yards from her house.
Speaker 1:How long did they-? She lives several hundred yards from this building and it just makes no sense. The barefoot peddler is now taken down. It was owned by her cousin is what some of the sources I'm finding were. And I mean, I see where some people would go and they would say, okay, she was strapped for cash, right, she was trying to save for college. She was somebody who, even if she could have gone to college, she was planning on taking care of her mom. Okay, so even if she had the money, would she have gone? I don't know, I don't know her. I feel like I get a vibe off of the whole situation where it's like why would she? She didn't strike me as the kind of person who would have stole money.
Speaker 2:If she did cash that was stowed away for like emergencies underneath which she was very well because she worked there for several months. You said so. She had to be 18 to work there because they sold alcohol, so like. Why would she wait several months after, like if you were planning on stealing right?
Speaker 1:and it's from her own cousin, right, would you? Still, I don't think she would have stolen from anybody, let alone her own family. I really don't. I won't. I'm trying to find more about that letter that her dad received, because to me I've never heard about that. So was it supposed to be like a ransom note? It was just so. This is a different source talking about the same letter. Uh, 1995, father received an anonymous letter postmarked from boston. So while that's all the same, it was written by a man alleging that burdick's daughter, lynn, had been abducted and murdered by an individual who lived in north adams mass, which florida, florida and North Adams are synonymous. Florida is part of, essentially, it's not part of North Adams. That's why we all look at it.
Speaker 2:I feel like, unless you're from Western Mass, you think Florida, you only think of the state of Florida.
Speaker 1:And it's I mean they at one point in one of the sources we're talking about, monroe, which is right next to Florida Mass, and it only has 100 people, mass, and it only has 100 people. 100 people, this is like the kind of population we're talking about. So it would be hard to say like I'm getting ahead of myself, but I don't feel like the person knew her, because the crime doesn't line up, so it doesn't. She worked a shift from four to nine. So if you knew her, wouldn't you in my mind? I mean, I've never abducted somebody, I don't plan to, but I don't think I would go at like 8, 8, 30 to try to abduct someone who you know might have been getting a ride, who might have had somebody coming in why that close to shutting down?
Speaker 2:I would have gone closer to five, closer. So was it more like like a convenience store?
Speaker 1:yeah it was a convenience store. You could get your alcohol, you could get you know like cigarettes so.
Speaker 2:So you had mentioned earlier to me when we were on the couch talking about this was a car that was stolen from Braintree, yeah, but then you also mentioned a letter that was postmarked from Boston.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those things. And then they're saying that the backing it up, a car was stolen from Braintree on the third day that Lynn was missing.
Speaker 1:They found it completely burnt up in Vermont, you know, very far from Braintree, Massachusetts, which is out near Boston, up in Vermont, you know, very far from Braintree, massachusetts, which is out near Boston, and it matched the description for the car that had abducted the girl from Williams College or tried to abduct her, except for the fact that the woman who was, you know, frantic, who had just been attempted to be taken, said bucket seats. So everything from the color to the shape of the taillights to the interior of the car matched, except the seat style. And for some reason I feel like that was a huge red flag that they just chucked this car out. It was found around the same time. I mean, think about it, the perfect crime. You kidnap somebody, you try to right they get away from you. You're like, oh shit, you go kidnap somebody else. Now your car has been seen erratically driving because there was a complaint between the two. You burn it right, you stole it, you committed the crime. Now you've got to get rid of it, all those fibers, all that stuff.
Speaker 2:But just because she said bucket in this car, didn't have bucket, we're gonna throw all this can't be the car they were just like it can't be.
Speaker 1:It's too much, it's I. It's too much pressure on a woman who was just almost abducted. It's too much pressure and it's yep to me. If you've got, I mean we're, we're in data and behavior. If five things match up and one's not right, I'm going to keep looking. I'm not going to just be like, oh, abort mission, okay, that's not right.
Speaker 2:Because if they say, oh, no, it was a pickup truck with bucket seats and it was blue and you found a red car with non-bucket seats.
Speaker 1:Okay, that doesn't match up.
Speaker 2:A seat style seems really. Yeah, because I think about the bundy case and how everyone's like, oh well, he didn't have his front passenger seat, right, you could take him out, and then he puts one back in. So if they find a bug right with the seat in there, oh it can't be the car because there's a seat in it, right. Bullshit, because you can change that. So specifically. It doesn't make any sense, I feel like some people get way too pigeonholed.
Speaker 1:Yep um, which is annoying. Oh, there's another podcast that actually did an episode on lynn burdick oh really, what was the name of the podcast?
Speaker 2:creme de la crime, oh okay, I've never heard of it, but I'm gonna listen to it, definitely I just I, you know, court, going back to like what we do for a living as behavior analysts. I think about you know the kids that we work with, and you have a child that's learning a new skill right, and they're learning, learning. They do well, do well, do well. And they have that one off day right. They're sick and we may not know it, or they had a bad night's sleep or they didn't get the breakfast.
Speaker 1:They want Something in the room is bothering them Like, oh okay, they don't know this skill at all.
Speaker 2:No, okay, they had a bad day and I know that's kind of maybe far off from what we're talking about, but like-.
Speaker 1:Zero and a hundred.
Speaker 2:Yes, there's something to be said in the middle yeah Right, I can't, we can't. Oh no, all this data is wrong, like okay data that we have.
Speaker 1:No, and I feel like, is that too far off? I'm trying to find a connection here. It's not because I feel like if I was investigating something. I'm one of those people who would be like a big time crime nerd, like what do you see in the TV shows and it's ridiculous, and they have a whole room with every article and everything.
Speaker 1:That's how my brain strives that way, but I feel like it's so easy to overlook a detail. It so easy to you know, we're not talking about a big town. We're talking about a small town with a part-time police chief. Okay, not a part-time police officer, not a volunteer fire department. We're talking about a part-time police chief, okay, everybody's connected in those areas. It becomes a really big whodunit yep.
Speaker 1:And I think what's interesting is when I'm reading all of this, nobody looked at anybody local. They seem to be from and I've done limited research. At this point I would say I'm very early in, like the actual, like hey, I'm gonna get in here and dig into this. They were very like it was this outsider which matches the mentality of that area. It was this outsider, it was this person who came in here, who, who tried to abduct that one girl. I mean, I'll give them that the girl he tried to abduct was at the Williams College. She was a freshman, so she was 18, 19 at the most, and Lynn was 18. So I will say that, if I can see why the comparison was drawn, the timelines, the ages, but that can't be the only suspect, you can't. And my brain is going so fast. And even the letter that he got in 1995. It keeps saying the police were familiar with the named suspect. The police were familiar. Who is this person and why are we not saying? And so I'm?
Speaker 2:bringing around the fact that, like, was there a limitation? Right, if we think about, like, research articles, we talk about the limitations at the end of the article. Right, so you go through, like your research methods and the data that you have, you go to limitations. Right, what is the limitations of this certain article? Basically, yeah, so I think about the limitations with this part-time police chief. Is it because it's such a small town? He knows every well? It's not possible. It could be the uncle, it's not possible it could be the best friend.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's a limitation. You need to have an outside source who has no connections to anyone. So like yes, a small town, great, we only have so many people to go through, but if you're connected to all those people it's harder.
Speaker 1:There's a bias there's a bias that even if you're aware of it it's there.
Speaker 1:And what strikes me too is like, at the same time, that they were thinking and I do, if you ask me, in my heart, what do I think happened to Lynn? I don't think she ran away. She was a girl who cared a whole lot about her family. She was a girl who was going to graduate with high honors and she was aspiring to go to college, and she didn't have a boyfriend and there was nobody who wished to harm her.
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't think that person would have run away on their own accord, unless there was a lot more that we just don't know and I'll always say that's a possibility, but in my heart I feel like it was a. It was a wrong place, wrong time. I think somebody did something and it was a quick decision, or maybe they just had her in their sights. I really hope it wasn't that. And and something bad happened and I don't think she's still out there. I wish she was, but I just I feel like it's. They were like, okay, ok, she wouldn't have run away, she was obviously kidnapped. And then they were just like let's search the woods, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it was like, ok, well, did we look for fingerprints? Like I know it's a convenience store, but something, did you know the soda was hers? Did you just presume the soda was hers? Like I just feel like a lot of the evidence and I know we're not privy to that because it's an open case, right but there's nobody talking.
Speaker 1:It literally looks like in the research they noticed she was missing. The part-time police chief was called by whoever it was mixed signals on who it was who actually discovered some sources say it was a patron of the convenience store went in and they were like where the fuck's? My service you know what I mean? Like why does it look like somebody nobody's in here and called and then in sources it was her brother had gone down to check on her and she wasn't there. Regardless, I feel like it was like the police chief came. He was like, hmm, okay, looks odd, but whatever, let's call in some extras. And then they were searching. And it's like in my mind, why did you go right to searching the woods, right, you didn't think she ran away? It tells me you were looking for a body, but why would you immediately go to? This just happened. Let's look for a body, yeah.
Speaker 2:With no signs of foul play, truly, I mean if there's blood on the floor or there's a sign of a struggle.
Speaker 1:I'm like, okay, let's look.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But if it looks like she just walked out, was persuaded, right, maybe with a weapon, maybe with some kind of blackmail, or maybe she was taken and they just fixed the room, that could have happened too. There's a lot of pieces to it that I'm like. I just don't see why that wasn't looked into. Yeah, I agree, I really do want to read the book. I forget who the guy is now. I'll have to look that back up.
Speaker 1:But there was an old prosecutor who had written a book about some killings and things that had happened in the area too so you're willing to read that book, even though it has someone burnick in it yeah, because I'm thinking that he, I, if I want to make this case, I think I need to get information from places that didn't pull her in, to look for those places where you could, because somebody knows something, yeah, somebody knows something, or somebody did. Somebody knows something or somebody did. There's got to be something. People don't just vanish. I mean I know, like Maura Murray and I know there are lots of cases where that happens, but there is always an answer. It's like what we do for work Behavior just doesn't spontaneously happen, there's always a reason.
Speaker 1:It's always cause and effect.
Speaker 2:There has to be something and I'll be damned I'm gonna find it, because it bothers me and this poor family deserves that it's and something I'm finding too and I know this is in research articles as well is that behavior isn't just one function, it's usually multi-function, of course you know. So was it just because, oh, it's spontaneous, I'm gonna do it. Or was it by greed? Was it by sexual desire? I mean the fact that he took a girl supposedly right, we're thinking here took a girl and $200.
Speaker 1:Like yeah it doesn't make sense, it doesn't and, and I'm thinking, okay, I mean, obviously it's really hard to like put your mind into, like, okay, I'm a person who's motivated to take people Right, even if I go in. Okay, let's say, the 200 doesn't make any. I can't make it and I mean, okay, they took her purse, so maybe this person was like I'm gonna make it look like she went away, like she left.
Speaker 2:So they just grabbed her stuff hastily, but they left her book on the counter so I'm I'm kind of saying something about the 200, so I feel like I've done enough events where, like you are given the cash right, it's usually a straight amount 100, 200, whatever and then you start earning right, so you might be left with 250 and some change, or 275, some change. It was directly 200. So you're telling me, like there's no way, if she was held under duress unless the person was like I only want 200 and so many bills that she would leave cash in the drawer well, and this is the thing that bothers me, so does she not?
Speaker 2:have any sales.
Speaker 1:That doesn't make any sense nobody's saying whether it was like 200 and then the drawer was dead, or it was like took 200 from the drawer. So that's weird but why about the technology back then. We won't. They would have had to just say, well, the day started with two. But we don't really know what happened because it was probably an old register. It probably didn't calculate the sales that way there was probably no receipt thing happening but like they would know what the drawer started out with well I'm assuming every shift 200 and that's why they can only say so.
Speaker 1:Some of the sources were saying 200 was taken, some said 187. Some said 180.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying if it, was 200 and they know the day started with 200, that means nothing was missing from the drawer.
Speaker 1:That's what's confusing, I don't know. It seems so. I know that Reddit is not a good source to go on, but I love reading Reddit to hear what other people are saying. But you know what I mean is not a good source to go on, but I love reading Reddit to hear what other people are saying.
Speaker 2:But you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean it doesn't make sense, but I'm assuming that because it was credit card, because credit cards were around. I think it was because they could only say whatever the day started with, because they couldn't account for it. The register and the pictures look so fucking old.
Speaker 2:So you're saying that they lost $200, but they weren't sure of the sales before that, right, I think that they're just saying well, it was 200 in the drawer, so at least 200, we can tell you Could have been, four could have been.
Speaker 1:That makes sense.
Speaker 2:Okay, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1:They talk a lot about how it was a slow day, but they also talk a lot about how there was like how could they know it was a slow day? Because they didn't have the cash. I guess at some point someone at her house had called her to be like hey, how's work, how's it going, whatever. And then she was like oh, it's slow, hang on, I've got a customer, I've got to go. Some of the, some of the sources say that she told him I'm like hey, can't talk right now. I've got a customer. That was the customer and then, and then nobody heard so they don't know if it was that customer, or you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of like oh there's so many blanks shit. I'm looking at the Reddit thread now, which I know is not Damn so interesting. Somebody's bringing up Ted Bundy in these comments. I'm going to read them. Oh love you some.
Speaker 1:Ted Bundy, this person who they posted like basically a whole article and they essentially ripped off the Internet. So I'm not going to read that. But then someone comments and said the account of the attempted abduction of that college student just 45 minutes earlier and a few miles away is just chilling to me. Clearly someone wanted to cause harm that night and it wasn't going to stop until they did so. The timing makes me believe the customer lynn had to go help was in fact her would-be abductor, which I think, if that story is true which is hard because the fbi is only going to give out so much information with being open. So another person replies to that comment.
Speaker 1:Actually this year they replied to that comment and they said reminds me of hearing that the night ted bundy failed to kidnap carol durant, he abducted and murdered debbie kent just hours later. This is probably somewhat common among those predators, debbie kent so sorry.
Speaker 2:Another thing these victims live and free in my head too holy shit, I, I think.
Speaker 1:And then somebody else had commented and this is in no way disrespectful to anyone who was involved in it. Obviously technology advances and this is just the comment of one person. But it says I think the cops dropped the ball in not putting the abductor's description out to the public. Even if someone somehow wasn't the same person who took lynn, the person is still a danger to the public. No, now, maybe you just didn't have a good description because the person wore a ski mask or something. Still, it just seems a little bit of a missed opportunity. And then someone else replied and said you know, it also was 1982.
Speaker 1:There could have been a delay. The college woman is almost grabbed and takes five minutes to get to a phone to call for help. It takes another five to ten minutes for police to arrive and confirm that it's legit, get a description. There's 15 minutes gone. Then they would need to decide if it's a targeted thing or a general public risk thing. The college student is terrified or needs medical treatment. That's more time. Perhaps they need to call on another person to help investigate someone to come get her five minutes for all that. Now we're up to 20 minutes and it's. It is 1982 and it's not easy to notify the public quickly like it is now. But ted bundy liked colleges.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he loved colleges and it's known that he was in those areas because he was trying to find out who his father was and why his mother never talked about his father and why she was at that place to give birth to him.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's just very, hmm, I mean, so this is a person who actually lives in the area. I mean, they have a really weird name that I'm not going to read out loud in case they listen, okay.
Speaker 2:Hi listener.
Speaker 1:This case of a female working alone at a convenience store always stuck with me. I remember when it happened, not too far from where I was living I live in Florida and it was a huge deal because the young lady was in Okay, so this is not the same article. This person is delusional, okay, um, because it was saying the person is an heiress. I was like I looked at her home. She was not an heiress to anything.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought you meant aries to like, like you astrology no, like heiress, like oh. Okay, got it. Well, we all think we're a queen of our own home.
Speaker 1:So, and somebody did. I actually didn't read the article that they posted at the top, but somebody had put in. Where is it? It's the thing that made me, that got me attached to this case. I could find no description of the possible abductor at the time and no further information in regards to if anyone was caught or questioned. Eventually. Lynn's case was cold. For years and years. Lynn's father kept the front porch light on for her. A lot of her siblings are still alive and still seeking answers and they say they will always leave the light on for her.
Speaker 1:Wow, that line is what gets me every single time. It's why I can't let it go. Her family knew she wouldn't wander away.
Speaker 2:They let it go. Her family knew she wouldn't wander away. They know it. It breaks my heart for these families where they're like we can't move, we have to stay in the same place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because if she comes back in, case they come back and you're talking a very long time uh, courtney, I'm gonna say this and rob, if we feel like we should take this out, fine, but I think we need to go to to florida, north adams, and see if we can find new records and just kind of like, yeah, even if we find one new piece of information, I mean this case is I just it's.
Speaker 1:I grew up hearing about it and it's just. It never leaves my head. There's so many cases like Lynn's. There's so many families like Lynn's I could think of a ton more some that are open to the publicity, some that are not. Yeah, but it's just after a case goes cold. I feel like people get sick of hearing about it, yeah, and I think that that's hard for people to hear and obviously we're not people like that.
Speaker 1:I've just read through. I mean, it's been like easily an hour. I've read through nine articles. I've already read because I'm like there's something in here.
Speaker 2:There's something in here, and I think it'd be worth doing so. Even if we go up there with the intentions of hopefully having a podcast, only people can hear more about lynn and her family and what may have happened. If people are like, no, I want off the record, at least we could find some type of information to bring to the police. I think it'd be worth it. Yeah, just try to go interview people like even so, the police do a lot of work and I understand you hear so many cases in your ears and you don't always hear all information. I think it's the same for us, right? We hear these families and we hear a lot of information and some stuff gets shuffled out right, and I think sometimes I think it would help for us to listen.
Speaker 1:Those people who were tasked with interviewing at least initially, before it went cold, were people who knew that family, so whatever prejudice they had, whatever right.
Speaker 1:You know, whatever bias they had in their head, whatever interactions they had, if somebody in town, if little suzy, is saying, well, so-and-so was a liar, now you're interviewing them and you're thinking, well, suzy said she's a liar. So people who are that neutral third party, who know nothing about it, who are a little bit more flexible in their thinking, she just doesn't strike me as the kind of person who could have run away and then seen all of this happen because of her and not have said something.
Speaker 1:I just I don't see it. I don't see it at all. I don't see it. Even for one minute that she left. I think it'd be worth.
Speaker 2:My only other thought is that perhaps it was somebody who she knew very well and they came and were like, oh my god, we have to go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah happens. And she was like, oh my god, let me get my purse and my coat and well because think about the next paycheck.
Speaker 1:Someone owes me she by taking the 200. Well I'm I'm wondering if the person didn't go back for the money because, hear me out, she was so. She had a bleeding heart, she helped children, she helped mom. If somebody had come into that store and said, oh my God, we've got to go, it's your mom, I think she would have gone.
Speaker 2:But would she be like OK, let me just at least gather enough money for my next paycheck, and that's why the two hundred dollars is gone.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I mean, I'm thinking that they just used it as an excuse to get her in the car, Like hey, I'm so and so there's.
Speaker 2:Maybe they grabbed the cash so definitely couldn't be someone like lewis slant or ted bundy, because they weren't cash motivated.
Speaker 1:There was no need for it unless it was to throw someone off the scent. So then I'm thinking back about that guy who was at the prison camp up there who had killed the woman at the hotel prison camp. Money, low amount, similar area, right, I mean I think I could see the link there.
Speaker 2:I could see the link there. I think it's worth coming up with, you know, 10 to 15 questions that if we can find people that that new land or new of the family and to be like, are you, are you willing to listen to the questions we have to have and willing to talk to us about it?
Speaker 1:I think it'd be interesting yeah, and I I don't know. I mean, I know her mother was unwell so I'm not sure. I'm not sure if she's still there. The Burdick family is very large in that area. That area has a lot of Burdick family. It's a very popular last name for that particular small area. So it's we might have to do more digging. I'm going to have to because it's literally like a sickness. It lives in my head. I can't, I can't. I would say I go down the rabbit hole of trying to come up with new information and articles, probably three, four times a year, and every time what I will say is she doesn't get a ton of coverage, but she gets enough that there are people who are podcasting about it, which I love. There are people who are talking about it.
Speaker 1:There are people who are saying lots of things. Now here I just pulled up her obituary. No, that's someone else with the exact same name. Oh, creepy. It must be her mom, because did they ever make an obituary for her? I don't think so. No, it's not the same same name, but not the same person in the same area weird. There's also a youtube video that somebody had made a true crime. I just it just doesn't. It doesn't sit right. It doesn't sit right at all, and a lot. Wow. There are a lot of people podcasting about it. That's great to know, though. Oh, what is this? Whereabouts unknown? It's a book with 20 mysterious missing person cases, and lynn is one of them. It's on kindle unlimited.
Speaker 2:Really read for free and then I'll buy it for free.
Speaker 1:I promise I will buy it. I just, uh, what's it called? I'm gonna have to look it up again because it completely vanished, oh, whereabouts unknown. That's what it was. Apparently she does missing person cases from across america and it's a nine book series, oh, which I'm excited about. Because not excited, not excited guys, sorry, just wait, and it was jen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so, jen baxter. Here is 20 mysterious missing person. Oh my gosh, is maura murray on here?
Speaker 1:she should be, depending on when it was written, going to end up on some kind of list from my Google history right now.
Speaker 2:Laura Murray is not here, wow, okay, but it's on there, there's a place called Doe Network that also has some good information on it.
Speaker 1:This looks good, though. Oh, what happens when he leaves us alone?
Speaker 2:She has other burks, she has nine books. Yeah, she has other burks, she has nine books. Yeah, well, wanders, we will. Uh, we will be going down another rabbit hole of kindle unlimited.
Speaker 1:somebody else commented um on a post in reddit, again asking the other person if they had read up on the recent joe ringer case that they're from mass too and used to live in the area. Oh Woman disappeared from East Hampton. There was a huge search for her. Her husband was active and spoke about her Cut to. Two weeks later the cops start questioning him and he commits suicide. It went unsolved up until a few months ago. They found her body deep in the woods by Mount Sugarloaf in Hatfield I think they're going to. The husband's ex-girlfriend is being held on murder charges.
Speaker 2:Oh shit.
Speaker 1:There's so much here wanderers, I feel like women disappearing from the workplace is just. It's too often In this letter that her dad got where they don't name the suspect. It doesn't make sense. Hmm, someone else on Reddit, I mean, talks about local lore. He moved to the area of the Berkshires in 1999, and he remembers hearing a story of hearsay, which has never been in print, that authorities were able to follow footprints in the snow and slush from the store to a neighbor's home. The man who tracks they were lived with his mother and was never charged. But there's never been any print of that. So I'm thinking that that's probably all speculation. Although not totally unhelpful, I really wish they had named. I really wish they just named anything. And of course the sketch is always the most like simple looking man. It's always like the same kind of guy you would always see in the street.
Speaker 1:He just looks like a joe, doesn't? He I need the name of the girl.
Speaker 2:So I love that you're going down another rabbit hole since this, but do you want to pause this and then come back?
Speaker 1:Oh my God, this is not related, but I was trying to find something from Relevance and I got this Florida man accused of 1978 West Springfield cold case to be arraigned, posted two days ago. Was this the guy with the man and woman slaughtered? Timothy Jolie, 71, of Clearwater, Florida, has been connected to the double murder of 18-year-old Teresa Marco and 20-year-old Mark Harnish. Yes, their pickup truck. Was that the one Green Dodge pickup truck with a damaged window parked on the runway?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I saw that I didn't even. Oh my God, is there a connection?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I mean no, not to Lynn. Oh, but it was because I typed in Florida and mass, I got Florida man and mass murder instead of Florida mass. Yeah, that came on the news very recently.
Speaker 2:It was all because of fingerprints.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was a bloody fingerprint. And what was it Five decades later? Yeah, 1978.
Speaker 2:Can you imagine you feel like you're just going to live out the rest of your life in peace and then boom, you know what's interesting though. Wasn't. I'm going to pause this so I can say this Thanks for listening today. Wicked Wanderings is hosted by me, Hannah, and co-hosted by me, courtney, and it's produced by Rob Fitzpatrick.
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