Hello, and welcome back to the heal with grace podcast. I have a wonderful special guest, Rachel, who is the creator and owner of intuitively wild, intuitively wild as a lifestyle brand for everyone and anyone seeking to better understand themselves. She helps people live intuitively wild, dedicated to their true authentic self with confidence and compassion.
She's a human design guide herbalist yoga therapist. She studied with best teachers all over the world in each modality and has most recently finished her herbalism apprenticeship with her mentor in England. So, she has a podcast mentorship group programs, so she's a rewilding spiritual. All over the map type of person that has so much experience.
And I'm really excited for her to come on here, working with your nervous system and what we talk about on here. We know that connecting with yourself is so important, but we don't always know what that means. So we're going to have Rachel talk about that today. So that was a long intro, basically. Hello, Rachel.
Thank you for being here. Hi, thank you so much for having me on. I'm so excited and grateful to be here. Yeah. Excited to have you. So I gave that little intro, but tell us more about, you know, kind of who you are, how you came to what you do now. Yeah. It's been a winding journey. It all started with yoga for me, really.
I got very into yoga at a young age and it quickly became my whole life. I did my first training when I was in college. And honestly, I just wanted to drop out of college and teach yoga and travel. I did not do that. I'm glad I graduated. But after I graduated, I fully immersed myself in the yoga world and it was amazing.
And then there came a time when I had to separate myself from that a bit. And I've had my own healing journey, which I'm fine with going into, but Through that I found herbalism and that really helped me connect deeper to nature and to myself in that way and really ground myself in a way that I hadn't been able to in a long time.
And. That also then led me to human design. I really just followed my intuition. My intuition has led me all over the world. I love traveling and it's led me to these different modalities that I'm so passionate about. And so trusting my intuition to guide me has been the North star that I've held onto throughout the whole trajectory.
I want to back up a little bit and ask. you know, you're going down this yoga journey, but realized you need to figure out a different way for your healing journey. So can you explain what made you need to shift gears a little bit from that? Yeah. And I love yoga. I love yoga therapy and it's still a huge part of who I am and the work I do and also how I lead my life personally, but it was truly my whole world.
And I don't think that there are places in the yoga world that are not always healthy. And especially so I'm in recovery for an eating disorder and yoga did contribute to that. And being in that world did contribute to that. And I think I needed to bring other things into my life, especially because exercise was such a big part of my eating disorder and it can be really easy to hide in the yoga world when everything I was doing was very celebrated and admired and praised and it was very harmful to me when it came to my routine and my perfectionism and so it was important for me to take a step back and remove myself from the world that world in that way and I think that It's important to bring that aspect of the yoga world to light because it can be easy to mask these unhealthy tendencies as something to celebrate.
We have similar histories with yoga because I've had to do the same thing. Uh, I came back to it. I've come back to it after ever, you know, after quite a while of taking a step out of it because of that reason as well, because of eating disorder. And I think it is important to talk about again, not that we're, you know, shaming yoga or anything.
Absolutely love it again. It is such a huge part of my journey in my life still to this day. But I think this goes to show that no matter what you're in, On 1 hand, for someone, it could be a really great healing, healthy, grounded place, but for someone doing the exact same thing, it may not show up that way.
It may be more harmful for them. And this is that identifying what's best for you versus what's best for someone else and living in that intuitive sense. So, you knew, maybe not necessarily. Completely intuitively, but after, you know, recognizing tendencies, you knew you needed to take a step in a different direction for a little bit.
Absolutely. And it forced me to slow down and lean on my meditation practice more, my journaling practice more, and other tools that are built into yoga. And that's one reason that I loved yoga therapy so much is that it does highlight these other tools. I think people think yoga and they think asana and this physical practice and.
It, it's wonderful, but that's not what yoga is. It's just one small, tiny part of it. I think I want people to realize that and to allow themselves to do things differently and to, to really tune into what serves them versus what the world is telling them they should do. How do you help people do that now?
I'm jumping ahead a little bit, but can you give us some examples? Yeah, I do it in a lot of different ways and it really depends on the person. Everything is such personal, individual journey, but I help people learn how their intuition talks to them and how to really strengthen that and trust that voice and live in alignment with that voice.
A lot of it is based around human design, which I'm very passionate about, and in human design it tells you what your authority is, which is how your intuition talks to you. So learning specifically how that shows up for you can change everything. And so I help people get into that and also notice and understand the blocks that might And stop them from either hearing that or acting in alignment with that.
Cause I think sometimes people can start to grasp what their intuition is trying to tell them, but there's still so many things in the way of them actually acting on that. And so getting to the root of what is stopping them from living truly authentically and truly aligned with their truth with confidence is a crucial step in the process.
Yeah, okay. That makes a lot of sense because, yes, it's really important to learn about ourselves and what's authentic to us, what fits us versus what we're taught. Probably it needs to be needs to fit us. But then, yeah, putting it into practice is difficult because there's so many blocks. So then, okay, let's start with the 1st part, especially human design.
Can you just explain that for people that don't know what it is? Yeah, so how I like to explain human design is that it's similar to astrology in the sense that you take all your birth info and put it into a computer system and you get this chart about yourself. It's basically the energetic blueprint of who you came here to be.
And another definition of human design that I really love is it's the science of individuation. And it basically tells you how you. Best function in the world, how your energy works, how your intuition works, what your gifts are. And it goes very deep. It's very nuanced and unique to each individual, but it can really lay out how you can best show up in the world.
And it gives you really practical and actionable tools to integrate into your life. So I'm learning about this as myself as well. And once I did learn about myself, it was one of those aha moments where I was like, Oh my gosh, literally explained everything about me. So what would be an example of someone?
And I guess we can take me for an example. I'm a projector. What's an example of a projector's energy versus someone else's energy and how to show up? Yeah. So, well, also, I'm curious, do you know your authority, your intuition? It would be for emotional authority. Okay, so you're an emotional authority, which I am as well.
So I'm a manifesting generator. So just taking a manifesting generator versus a projector. They're very different. Projectors are, say there's a jungle. And there's all the animals on the jungle floor running around doing all these crazy things, using all their energy. And then the projector is the bird on the treetop looking down, seeing everything from a different perspective and saying, You can do this better.
I see how you can do this. I see how you can be more efficient in this. And just seeing things from a completely different perspective. And they can't keep up with the animals on the forest floor, but they can do things Differently, they can be more efficient in their own way and see things in their own way and they can get a lot done in a shorter amount of time.
So they don't need to be running around like crazy. Like, everyone else is on the forest floor. They can do what they need to do in their own time versus a manifesting generator. Manifesting generators are. the multi passionate powerhouses. They are the ones who are here to forge their own path and do things in their own way.
So they are the quickest moving type in the sense that they can move from one thing to the next really quickly. I'm a good example because, you know, I found yoga therapy and then herbalism and then human design and I kind of did my own thing and brought them all together to like make my own thing.
When I love what I'm doing, I can go all day. And, but I really need to like bounce from one thing to the next. It's not a linear process. It's very moving from A to point B to, or from point A to point F to point C, you know, just like kind of doing it in my own way. So those are just some examples of how the, those two, there are five different energy types, but then as an emotional authority, which we both are, it's really about letting your emotions.
Be your guide. So authority is your intuition and emotional authority. They need to wait for clarity. So you need to make sure that you will, you feel the same way consistently about a certain decision over time and not just in the moment and really let things process and settle in your body. And if you are feeling the same way about something over time, then you're, you know what the answer is.
That was a really important thing for me to learn. Basically, waiting on something that I'm really excited about to make that full decision. And I love that example of the forest of looking, you're like, the different people projectors looking from the top. That makes a lot of sense. Talking about really honoring your intuition.
When I 1st, learned about this. There was an instance of me dismissing myself and thinking, oh, I don't want to be that. I wish I was a manager and I wish I was X, Y, and Z. Right? And I've learned that. I do that a lot to myself over time. And I'm when we do that, we're kind of dismissing what's authentically us.
Right? Like, I thought maybe I was the, I don't know, wrong 1 or something like projector wasn't good enough, or I don't even know what I was thinking. Right? How is that even a thing to be good enough? But that's what I thought. Right. Because I've been acting, I have not been acting in my projector authority and truly what's best for me, my mind, my body, my, myself.
And so I'm guessing what. you help people do is to own that and understand what that really means to them throughout their life, right? Yes. Well, it's funny because when I found out I was a manifesting generator at first, I was like, Oh, I wish I was projector. But what I've noticed so acutely working with clients is that there's always the parts of ourselves that we have felt the most shame about and tried to push away and ignore and disown are always found in our chart and are often our greatest gifts.
And are often the things that we need to embrace the most to be who we fully are. And seeing it laid out in our chart that way, seeing that it is just such an authentic part of who we are, helps us embrace that more. Gives us a permission slip to be who we are. There were so many parts of myself that I felt weren't okay.
I'm not allowed to want this. I'm not allowed to be this way. And then I saw in my chart that, Oh, this is who I am. Like, I'm not only am I allowed to want this, I need to live this out. And my, Chart really gave me permission in that sense, and I've seen it do that time and time again for others, and it's such a special thing to help people see that what they've felt shame around is really one of their greatest gifts.
That's very true, especially even when we're talking of their therapy terms. So much of our shame comes from things we've shunned about ourselves, and There are, they are authentic gifts. So actually, can you give an example of that? Like, what is maybe from either your library client's life of okay, what would be an example of something that we push away that actually, if we owned can be.
You know, a gift, if you will, it's something that we really can. What am I trying to say? Just hone in on. Yeah, absolutely. And something I want to add before I go into that example is that often we feel shame around it because it's what makes us different and people have. Either pointed that out or we just want to fit in and be the same as everyone else.
And so owning what makes us different is also a real, a huge part of human design. And as for your question, I can give the example for myself. We have in, on your human design chart, you'll have what is called channels. I won't go into all the specific details, but they're just connecting different energy centers, which are related to the chakras and they are each hold an energy about a different gift or a different theme.
And by gift, I just mean peace of who you are. It could be that you're really good at noticing what people need are really good at. You really are specific with your routines. There's, there's so many different gifts, truly so many, but. I, for a very long time, I felt it wasn't okay to use my voice. I felt like I couldn't be the center of attention.
It would make me too dramatic or self centered. I had to just be quiet, go with the flow, and And in my chart, all of my channels are, except for one, are connected to my throat center. And so what that says is that I am meant to use my voice to Share my gifts and to make impact on this world. And seeing that was like such a sigh of relief because I felt like I had been fighting myself for so long to not use my voice.
And I just had this moment of, okay, I have to acknowledge that I want to be heard. I want to use my voice. I want to be known and be seen in that way. And. To not only acknowledge that, but to give myself permission to do that and to own that that is a huge part of my purpose was honestly life changing for me and really healing as well.
And smiling really big right now because I mean, we have such similarities because I want to share this example too. I, I also have an open throat and in my chart. But early on, I was diagnosed with different learning disabilities and always had trouble writing, reading, putting words together. And so that form that, you know, informed my lack of speaking.
Really? I just, I didn't speak up for myself. I didn't really voice much. Right. And if you would have told me even, I don't know, 5 years ago that I'd be having a podcast, there's no way I would have believed you because I never have seen myself as someone who speaks clearly or concisely or in a way that people can understand me because I've had a lot of experience of people saying, I don't understand you or, you know, you're, you're not.
That's March or something along those lines, but the podcast to your point previously of if something's always coming up for you, that's a decision to be made. Right? So I've been thinking about this for honestly, probably a couple of years now. I've been wanting to start a podcast and finally, I decided this is what I'm going to do and I love it.
So it pieces together those parts. It just, yeah, when it's aligned, it feels so right. And same with me. I have my own podcast. If you would ask me even last year, if I would ever have a podcast, it'd be like, absolutely not, but it's something I've always wanted to do. So owning that and letting myself do it.
Yeah, it's been really empowering and healing. Like I said before. Yeah, definitely. So I want to take a second to speak to probably some of the people that are Are on their chronic illness journey or any kind of chronic symptoms when we're healing these symptoms. So much of our, our journey is owning our true self because we've probably.
Push that down and not that that's the direct cause of chronic illness or symptoms, but it is a contributing factor because we're just dismissing ourselves. And so our body is fighting us or sorry, protecting us. So, along this journey, when we're able to have this piece of our journey be about exploring ourselves, that can be really important and doing any of these things like human design or learning about our bodies through yoga or herbalism or things like that.
It's. It's exploratory period and I don't know exactly where I'm going with that, but my point being there's just so many different ways to learn about yourself. And I mean, for me, and for you, obviously, human design has been a big piece of that. There's a lot, right? There's so many different ways. So, yeah, what else can you speak to around that around learning about yourself?
Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that's a really good point. I think that. Obviously, chronic illness and illness in general is so nuanced and complicated and layered, but I think that there is almost always a piece of it that is related to us pushing against ourselves and learning how to really tune into ourselves and understand ourselves and unpack all of that can help so much.
If only to know. What route to take, like, to, if only to learn how to listen to our intuition to know what doctor to see or, you know, medicine to take, like, it can, it can help inform every decision we make and that is, Invaluable and I believe that human design can help everyone, but it's about my main focus is to bring people back to themselves so that they are empowered enough to let their intuition guide them to find the tools that work for them because different things will work for everyone.
And I am, I am, nothing is one size fits all. And so I think it's about finding. Finding what works for you and you do that by knowing how your intuition speaks to you by trusting it and By knowing yourself when you know yourself so deeply No one can take that away from you. Oh, so so so true and it's just it's empowering You can learn what I teach people is learning.
There are different signals of their nervous system So what are what what happens in your mind? It's And your belief systems and your emotions and your physical sensations when you're in the stress response versus when you're in the relaxation response and nuances to it. But that's so key awareness about, because that's you understanding you and your body signals.
Basically, what's your body telling you? What's your mind telling you? And then from there we can act. So, yeah. No, it's just, and that's why I think that I love combining different modalities because like I said before, you can know what your intuition is telling you, but if there's something within you not letting you move forward, then that doesn't really do anything.
And that's why we need to have the tools to regulate our nervous system, to work through any trauma or anything holding us back because I just know so many people who I've told, you know, we. We get to know their human design, but then it's like, okay, so how are we actually going to embody this? And that's when the other tools have to come into play.
Yeah. So other tools, you use things like yoga, herbalism, or even just You know, lifestyle, talking about life and like how, how things fit you. Yeah. Yeah. So for me, the yoga therapy is a lot of nervous system regulation and finding the specific tools within that, that work for each person, whether it's breathwork or journaling or certain Asana postures.
Sometimes it feels a lot like therapy. People just need to talk things out and get things out. And I use the herbalism as a way to lay the foundation. You know, Nature's Medicine, I focus a lot on mental health and making tinctures and teas and salves for each individual person that will help regulate their nervous system, will help lower anxiety, will help boost their mood so that they can, so that everything else is just fine.
Easier and can flow more. Easefully. Yeah. Okay. So then when someone comes to you, I mean, obviously this is individual specific, but I guess what are some of the common things that people come to you for? Yeah. Yeah. Of course it depends. But like I said, anxiety. Depression, perfectionism, people pleasing, uh, overall just feeling disconnected from themselves, feeling lost, kind of purposeless, feeling like they are always looking outside of themselves for the answers.
And a lot of, it really ranges, I find that it's a lot of people who have turned to external sources for the answers time and time again and have tried to fit themselves into a mold and do all the things that they're supposed to do and they're expected to do or what everyone else is doing. It just hasn't worked for them.
And they want, they want to love themselves. They want to feel good. They want to live in alignment or they just are fed up of feeling not good about themselves. Do they recognize that what they're needing is to have a better relationship with themselves? People understand that at first? Not always. No, it really, it does depend.
There are some people who do, but no, not always. Often people will come to me and want the perfect prescription, want me to give them their morning routine and the exact answers. And I'm just like, that's not how it works. And that's not, you know, that's not what we're here for. And so again, I turn them back towards themselves.
And it's a lot, often it's a lot of unpacking and kind of getting to the root of. of how they're feeling and why they're feeling that way. Yeah, oftentimes. People are experiencing are these symptoms, if you will, of a deeper underneath need and usually that underneath need if we truly peel back all the layers is not connecting with yourself.
So then, yeah, it makes sense where. We don't recognize that person that's completely. Okay. And there are a lot of layers again. We work with all the layers, but truly at the end of the day, we can understand how to connect deeply to ourselves. Then we can also learn what's going to help us. How we cope with life, essentially, manage the day to day, or whatever happens.
Yeah, and I honestly think so much of it is slowing down and giving ourselves time to ourselves. Almost all of the people I work with have, I give them some sort of journaling practice and some sort of breathwork practice because that forces us to be still. And get quiet and regulate our nervous system.
And also I'm just, I'm so passionate about journaling. It's like having a conversation with yourself. It doesn't have to look any specific way. It doesn't have to sound any specific way, but just the act of having space to yourself, to put pen to paper, to put your thoughts into words that can externalize them can be really illuminating.
How does that. Let's talk more about journaling because it is very important, but I usually find that there's either someone who loves it and they probably always had some sort of practice or the other person that's like, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't really work for me or always procrastinate on it. So can you elaborate more on why it's so important?
How does that create connection to yourself? Yes. Well, first I will say that. There are parts of your human design chart that let you know if you are, if routine is helpful for you or if it's a hindrance for you, you know, journaling or incorporating something like that will be helpful for you and how you best learn and connect with yourself and take in information.
So I use that to guide me when I'm helping people tap in in that way. But I often find that journaling helps everyone to some degree, whether it's more structured and regimented or very flowy or not, that depends, but the actual act of it I think is really helpful. And putting pen to paper, there, there's just this mind body connection, like we're putting, we're acting, we're putting the words onto paper, so our thoughts are not just in our head.
They're not just running, in circles, like under the surface, we can actually see them and process them. And again, it's hard because it's different for everyone. Some people just like, you just need to brain dump and let it out and then you can move on. And some people, you know, there's more structure and processing to it.
But I find that externalizing our thoughts in some way shines a different light and gives us a different perspective to what's happening underneath. And inside of it, I highly, I value it as well, but I am 1 of those people that I've struggled to have a consistent journaling practice. But once I found a specific 1, which I will have a podcast on probably 2, it's called journal speak and I'll link this in the show notes.
But the idea is exactly what you just said is bringing up what is unconscious, basically the emotions that are going on underneath the surface that we're probably hiding or shutting down or. Protecting like our mind is protecting us from those feelings, but when we get them out, then our bodies and our minds don't have to protect us from them anymore.
And oftentimes, especially the people that I work with in this community, those protection mechanisms are symptoms. So, when we get out what's underneath the surface, especially in a way, like, journaling where we can just be wrong and vulnerable and completely true and real, then they don't have to be scary.
We don't need protection from them from those things. And yeah, it gives you that private space. So, I think it's important to keep talking about, because it can't be very overlooked. It can seem like something simple, which it can't be, but it's also so powerful. Even if it's just like. One sentence, even if you start just writing on your notes app or, you know, you do a voice note to yourself, like there are very, like there, if there's that big barrier to entry when it comes to sitting down with a journal and a pen, there are other ways to start.
But I think starting somehow somewhere is really important. Yeah. I always know it all the time. I have a wrist issue. I broke it a couple of years ago. And so writing ends up hurting and I love voice noting. And I have a journal voice note that works just fine. Okay. So I realized that we, I want to talk a little bit more about yoga therapy because I realized that we didn't fully talk about the difference between that.
You mentioned it and a typical yoga class that people do. Most likely know what it is. So what's the difference? Like when people come to you for yoga therapy, what does that mean exactly? Yeah, I get that question a lot because when I say I'm a yoga therapist, I think people just assume I'm saying yoga teacher in a fancy way.
And I'm sure there are so many different definitions. I don't know if there's an official one, but to me, yoga therapy is very holistic and brings in so many different modalities. Of course, Yoga in itself, being a yoga teacher is very holistic and mind, body, soul, but yoga therapy just takes it to another level.
And for me, it really brings in that therapy aspect. Of course, I'm not a therapist, but having the ability to really Get to the root of the issue and understand people on that deeper level and get to know the whole person in a really specialized and specific way. Yeah. But I'm curious actually, cause I know you're a yoga therapist.
As well, I'm curious what your thoughts are on this question and how you think what you think the difference is between the two. I wouldn't agree with everything you just said, because I've got this question a lot as well, especially being a therapist and the yoga therapist. People don't really understand what that means and so usually my answer is so a session might look like.
Coming in and usually touching base, like, talk and looks like a talk therapy session at 1st, right? But then, um, might lead you through some different practices specific to whatever you're going through and that'll look it's not going to look like a, you know, you'll go class flow. It's going to look more like a meditation or breath work, or maybe some restorative poses to help support your nervous system.
And then helping you build routines around that, but it's not again, it isn't just about the physical. It actually really is getting to truly understand yourself, your mind and your body. And we have a different lens through which we do that as a therapist, because we truly went through a program that learns about so much, anything from learning how to be with and sit with just mental cognitions to internal workings of the bodies and the shocker systems and the and there's just so much information that we can look at.
someone through. So it really does give that holistic picture. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's, it's fun to talk to someone else who, who understands. And I was going to say something, but I just lost it. I, I very rarely do a lot of physical postures with clients and that's not to say, again, I'm not knocking Vinyasa or Hatha or I love it and I do it, but I just think that it's a totally.
Different. thing. It's just, it's just from yoga therapy. It's just a different, it's a different outcome. It's a different mindset. And it's a whole, it's a whole different process. I always say that yoga is kind of like high school or college, like undergrad. And then yoga therapy is like grad school, your master's and getting like more specific and specialized is how I tried to explain it to some people.
I love that. That's a good, that's a good example. Yeah, it is. I usually will explain to people that. So, if you take anxiety and depression, for example, they're both very common symptoms. Anxiety is someone's coming in with a lot of anxiety. We're going to work on soothing and calming and more nourishing practices, if you will.
With depression, we might have somewhat similar because there's usually some internal anxiety or just the discomfort, but for someone that has deep depression, that might look more like T, like, chronic fatigue, we're going to actually work on some more activating practices to kind of move that energy. So we get to make it specific because all the, you know, tools in our toolbox would be well.
Exactly. And that was one reason from the start, even when I was much younger and just teaching yoga classes, I found it so difficult because people would come in and I would be talking to them and getting to know them and what they're going through and what they need. And I would be like, how am I supposed to teach a general class to all these people when they all need something completely different?
And that was always something I struggled with and wanted to move away from. So when I found yoga therapy, it just, it felt right. Immediately. Yeah, that's cool. I really, I love how they're all these different components. You're right. It's a very manifesting generator, but it it. They work. They tell, I can see how they totally work all together.
It's really cool. Okay. Okay. So is there anything else around what we've talked about or even just what you do that you feel like is important to note? People about learning how to become more intuitively aware of themselves, be authentic. I don't think so. It's actually, this is kind of a tangent, but it's funny because manifesting generators and generators as well are really not good with.
Open ended questions. And so when someone asks me open ended questions, my mind always goes blank. I need like, I need something more to respond to like, uh, this or that, or I, it's it, but projectors are much better at open ended questions. It's really helpful for them. Actually. And they can just kind of like.
Go right away. So it's fun. And it's very true. Actually. I mean, I do need a question though. New question. And then I can take it from there. Yeah. Okay. So then do you feel like what we've talked about has, do you think that it can be helpful for people to understand themselves when they're talking about being authentic and we're talking about really coming home to themselves?
Do you feel like we've covered a lot of what you work with, how you work with people? Yeah. Yeah. And I, I guess one thing I will add is just having the bravery to start because I think that when we've lived our lives being one way, it can be really scary to step outside of that. And being willing to allow yourself to change takes a lot of courage and you might be the only one in your circle, in your environment who is doing so, but having the to go first and to just take that step is is scary and also so empowering and sometimes it just has to be done and the people in your life will either adjust or they won't and maybe you'll see that you know some of your environment needs to change or maybe people will really surprise you but just having the confidence to allow yourself to change and be more authentic and vulnerable and confident in yourself even if you don't always feel it.
That's important thanks for saying that because it does take a lot of courage just that outside of your norm and to look at yourself, which can often change or shift things in your life or in relationships. So, yeah, that's an important 1. Okay, yeah, as another thing with as being a man assessing January, it's it's.
a lot about changing and transforming and pivoting and moving on quicker than people expect you to. So I've had to embrace, embrace the change, become a master at the pivot and just step into that discomfort. So I urge everyone to allow themselves to change. Thank you. Okay. So how can people find you and work with you?
Yes. So you can. Find me anywhere at intuitively wild. I'm on Instagram and tick tock. My website is intuitively wild. com and my podcast is intuitively wild. I do mentorships. So I work one on one starting at a one month container up to six months. And we really get to the root of what's going on with you.
And again, very individualized, very specific to what you are going through and what you need. And I also do one off sessions of that as well. And I also do human design sessions and I have a retreat coming up in April in Asheville, if anyone's interested in that. And I think that's. Oh, and I have an online apothecary that will be launching soon with some products that I'm really excited about.
So that's the majority of it. That's amazing. I love all of that. And of course it'll all be linked below. Retreat. That's amazing. Yeah. I'm really excited. It's going to be really magical. Yeah. Okay. And then something I love to ask everyone, what are you loving right now in your wellness journey? And this could be anything from like a new recipe to, I don't know, a new found insight you have about yourself.
Yeah, this probably won't surprise anyone, but I am loving just doing whatever I feel like in the moment. From a past of being really rigid and perfectionistic around my wellness and what that routine looks like. And while I still have my routine, it's very important to me because it does help me with my mental health.
I am learning to soften more and slow down more and really be in tune with what I need in each present moment. and allow myself to act on that. And I'm loving it. Ah, amazing. Thank you. That's so important for people to hear, especially from, yeah, rigid background, disordered eating disorder. That's huge. So, okay.
Wonderful. Thank you so much, Rachel. This was a really wonderful podcast and yeah, thank you for coming on. Yeah. Thank you so much, Grace. And thank you to everyone for listening. I would love to connect with you if you want to reach out and yeah, just thank you again for having me.
