Episode 20: Chakras, subtle energy systems & frequency

In this episode we explain what ‘energy’ really is, how it impacts our emotions, and how our Chakra system works. We discuss the impact that emotions can have on our physical health, emphasising the importance of treating the root cause of dis-ease through inner work, rather than repeatedly treating physical symptoms instead. We hope that in sharing this information we can empower others to know their own frequency and learn how to bring themselves into balance, through holistic practices such as yoga, frequency and spirituality.

In the next episode we will dive deeper into holistic health exploring Ayurveda, so stay tuned for that!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Okay, welcome everybody. So, this week's episode, we are talking about energy and hopefully dispelling some myths around that and kind of getting clear on what that is, how it works, which is gonna include then a discussion of frequency because energy and frequency are connected. And hopefully, we'll have time as well to then go into chakras. So the chakra system and how that works both on a physical and emotional level, once we have that understanding of energy and frequency. So, to start us off, I was gonna ask Becky, because obviously we work with energy in our field quite a lot. So, from a yoga perspective, it's very much focused on energy and also from an astrology perspective, too. So I wanted to ask you, Becky, to kind of kick us off. For those who maybe are new to this concept of energy or maybe even a bit skeptical about it because it's quite an intangible subject. How would you describe energy?

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Okay, so I feel like to talk about energy, we should go back to our science lessons at school and think about how energy was described to us when I don't know, maybe we sat through physics or uh yeah, science lessons and what energy is defined as scientifically, which is the capacity to do work or produce change. And one of the things that I always remember from school when we talked about energy was the law of conservation of energy, and that is that energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change forms. So, you know, when we think of energy then from a human perspective, and then we can also talk about like the different types of energy that maybe we learnt about at school, like kinetic energy, which is energy of motion, uh nuclear energy, chemical energy. But for me, when I think of human energy, I think of potential energy. You know, in the work that I do with both yoga and astrology and energy work, what we're looking at is, you know, how are we gonna use that potential energy within that human so that they can, you know, move towards their life purpose. So I think you know, talking about that is a good way to start the conversation. And then, you know, people are often like, well, yeah, that's still like really intangible and don't understand it. And so I would say, if you don't believe in energy, do you believe in electricity? Of course you do, because you know, you switch your light on at the switch and you get light, or you switch your oven on and you know the oven warms up. So we're we're surrounded by electricity all of the time. And what we've got to think is that we are essentially like organic uh vessels for electricity to flow through, because it is electricity that works our nervous system, and by that I mean like neurons literally transmit information through electrical impulses, and that governs everything in our entire human body from muscle movement to thoughts and emotions, and the brain uses like tiny electrical currents to process information, the heart relies on electrical signals to maintain its rhythm, and we see this, don't we? You know, if someone's heart is abnormal, abnormal rhythm, then they would have a pacemaker maker fitted, which literally regulates the uh rhythm of their heart. So when we start to think about like the tangible electricity outside of us, and think, you know, everything outside of us is always a like to me anyway, a mirror of what is going on on a micro level within us. Then if we believe in electricity, we must also believe in the energy of our body. How would you add to that? Yeah, what would you say about that, Laura? What do you feel about energy?

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Well, for me, energy and emotion is kind of what I'm really excited about, and how you know I'm I'm really into the emotional work, right? So for me, it's kind of like I guess trying to convince people that emotions are real and tangible in the way that energy is real and tangible, and that emotion is energy and motion. So emotions are just energy moving around the body. Before I get into that too much more, I just wanted to ask you, because from an astrology perspective, you know, you make the example of like, do you believe in electricity? Of course you do, and that it's funny, isn't it, what us as humans will believe in. So it's like we're happy to believe that you can create a flame, like by friction, a flame will arrive. We're like, yeah, that's okay, but then we won't believe in other things that we can't see, maybe. Um, you know, albeit we'll believe in the tell. I mean, how does that picture like live stream from one place to another? Again, electricity. And when sometimes I think about this, I think about the waves, and I think about how you know somebody's kind of skeptical around the impact that the planets have on us energetically, but they don't question waves, they don't question a tidal force from the moon, for example. So, how do planets affect us energetically in that way?

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Yeah, I mean, there are so many different schools of thought around like how astrology literally works and impacts us at a human level. And I'll briefly talk about a couple of them. So the first one is like literally the law of correspondence that you know, as within, whatever's outside of us is going to be replicated within us at a micro level. Um, but I do feel like science is starting to catch up with like literally how this could work. And one of the things that I've read a little bit about, and I'm keen to kind of research it more and find out more about it, is neutrino theory. And it's really interesting for me when I look at like the planets in the sky, and there were seven visible, well, there still are seven planets that are visible by the human eye. And then in I think it's 1781, uh, we discovered Uranus, and then a bit later on we discovered Pluto out a bit further on. And whenever a discovery is made, like outwards, you know, in space, what happens is we discover more at a micro level. So as we've discovered more about the outer planets and different galaxies existing and things like this, we we sort of refine our knowledge around uh things at the micro level. So we all know, you know, perhaps we don't know lots about it, but we will remember from school talking about electrons and neutrons and protons. And what science has now discovered more recently is like neutrinos, which are the tiniest particles known to us. Uh, they're so tiny that like uh you know, like billions of them could fit on your thumbnail. And it's said that neutrinos are different to other particles because they can pass through an object, pick up some of its energy, and then you know, travel to the next object. So if we think of and also these particles, these neutrinos can move faster than the speed of light. So it's this idea that you know, as the planets are moving and you know, creating different energetic effects, neutrinos are passing through those planets literally through our atmosphere and picking up the energy from them. And then, you know, almost what we inhale is you know the collective astrology of the moment, which could explain like why your birth chart, you know, it's literally that embodiment of the very first breath that you take, because that's the neutrino stream that you're you're inhaling. So, you know, like there are many different schools of thought, but I think it's really interesting how science is starting to catch up with that. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

And then the mass of the planets, too, right? So we talk about um like the smaller planets and then the larger planets taking longer, you know, like generational planets, the smaller planets having, you know, a faster impact on us, like the moon cycle, for example. And I guess just that reminder that, you know, just like the moon moves the waves, like as we're 70% water, that the gravitational mass, the pull, the energetic pull on that has the same energetic pull on us, but from an emotional perspective too, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:55

Yeah, exactly. Like our bodies are what 70 something percent water. So to think that we are not impacted by the moon is like to me, it's crazy. It's you know, and how egotistical of us to think that we exist in a vacuum where we're not impacted by like anything else. Um, you know, because when we think about it, there are seven planets visible with the naked eye. As we'll go on to talk about, hopefully, if we have time, there are seven chakras in the human body, there are seven colours in a rainbow, there are seven days in a week, and the days of the week are all named after planets, you know. Monday is moon day, Saturday is Saturn Day, and yeah, okay, like Wednesday is associated with Mercury, and okay, like that doesn't exactly translate, but that's because Wednesday is named after like a Norse god that essentially represents Mercury, you know, so it's like when we start to see the interconnection, to me, like that's when yeah, we can't deny that our energy and our emotion in our human body is not impacted by things that we you know maybe can't tangibly explain. And we've also got to think, you know, like our human experience, you know, if there was like a graph, what we're able to perceive is such a small tiny percentage of that, and you know, we believe that dogs can hear things that uh you know we can't hear, you know. So just because something is you you can't like necessarily pin it down through science yet, you know, science is meant not meant to be settled, science is meant to evolve all of the time, um you know, doesn't mean it's invalid or not true, and in fact, astrology was one of the original sciences and one of the original maths, because what led us to develop much of science and much of maths was looking at the sky and the stars and thinking, you know what, like when the sun is there and Jupiter is there, like something's going on there, and what if we could calculate that degree? And then what if we could put that into a formula that calculated a cycle of time? So it was through looking at the stars that you know, the great mathematicians and scientists were able to develop mathematical concepts that we don't even question anymore. So to me, you know, having been down those rabbit holes, now I just don't question it because it's so obvious. But I, you know, a lot of people are starting out at a place where like astrology is so intangible, energy is so intangible, but you know, that's because we've got to realize that we've been educated around things that you know, teachers are are not really questioning the things that they've been taught, and it's just the same stuff that gets regurgitated. And this is where you know, as we've entered like this age of Pluto now being in Aquarius, hopefully, I don't know. I feel like science is gonna start to catch up.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

And I find it so like fascinating. Humans are so funny the way what we will accept and what we will question, you know. It's like some people would even question well, does the moon affect the waves? But then it's like, but we have night and day, you're happy to go to sleep because the moon is up and the sun goes away, you know. And for me, it's almost the rejection of it idea for me is so closely coupled with fear, and this is like this leads us on nicely to how emotions are connected to energy, right? Um, and I guess what we're trying to do, isn't it, is just kind of raise the lid and go, how about this? Like, what about this as a concept? And not like scare anyone, but also open, open eyes to a different way of seeing like the interconnectedness. Um, so this what I'm really passionate about is obviously working with people's emotions in the hope that you know, and it's never about like me and if I can help someone self-actualise, but sharing knowledge in a way that helps somebody on their journey to self-actualise. Self-actualise being from being about getting from where you are to what you're supposed to be doing in this lifetime, the highest form of yourself, if you like, and that's gonna look different for everyone. Um, but I that's what I'm like. If you know, if somebody said what you're most passionate about, it's like helping people self-actualise. That's what I want to do. And first of all, to be able to do that, we've got to believe that emotions are real. You know, we can't self-actualise if we're in denial or shut down with our emotions, because in order to self-actualise, you're working with emotions. So, first of all, we've got to go, okay, emotions are real. And people want emotions to be tangible because if they're not tangible, then they're not real, right? In the Western world that we live in often. And there's been, you know, I guess this is difficult in a way, the way the West is set up. We're set up already with what we call a dualistic health system, which absolutely separates the mind and the body, so the emotional and the physical. So that's a big barrier to action when I'm there, like, okay, well, if you self-actualize, you're going to be healthier. And it's like, but emotions, A, they're not real, and B, how are they connected to our physical body? So it's about trying to educate around how energy is real and emotion is energy, and emotions impact us physically. And in that instance, we have to believe in a holistic model, right? Which is this idea that the body and the mind are completely, inextricably linked. And they're much better at this in the east. You know, we've spoken about this before. You go to the doctors, you know, in the east, or you look at Chinese medicine, or you look at qi, and they're working with meridians, they're working with energy centres, you know, whereas you go to the GP in the West, and I'm not poo-pooing the health system over here. We're so lucky for the health system that we have. It just is a dualistic system, which means that it separates mind and body. So if you go with a sore throat, they're gonna go, you know, say ah, look at your tonsils and go, okay, have they got white spots on them? Here's some antibiotics or not, is probably viral. They're definitely not gonna speak to you about your emotional levels of communication. Is there something you're holding back and not saying because it's the throat chakra? Like they're not gonna look at the emotion behind the dis-ease in the throat. They're not seeing the body as a messenger that expresses dis-ease as a way of saying, hey, I'm out of balance both emotionally and physically. So if you bring me back into a balance emotionally, the physical symptom may subside. That's never a question. It's just symptom treatment. So it's okay, let's reduce the inflammation. So here's an anti-inflammatory. Not getting to the root cause of why the stress is there in the first place, which is causing the inflammation, right? So my like passion is all about emotions are real and they have a real impact on our physical health. And something that has been a great progression of this, actually, which were like I jumped for joy when I heard about this in the news, was introducing this holistic approach into the West, which is actually about treating heart attacks. Now, this is probably most poignant to me because obviously my dad died of a heart attack. But the way that they treat heart attacks now, they are they have admitted, if you like, that they're gonna do a different treatment if it is showing up in a certain way, which is called broken heart syndrome. So they're both heart attacks are cardiomyopathy, and then there's different styles of that, and there's one called, and I'm not gonna say it right, but tacopsubo, which is broken heart syndrome. And basically, if there has been grief or bereavement or really intense stress, then the actual medical intervention that is given is different for broken heart syndrome than what you would call a normal heart attack. So myocardal infulcation, if you like. Those are the two separations, and that for me was like, okay, so we are admitting that the heart is gonna be impacted by emotion so much so that the medical intervention needs to differ. And that was like, right, so emotions do have an impact on us physically, okay. We know that, but it's interesting that the West are really like that's not front of their mind, you know. Um, and yet when we look at cortisol, the stress hormone in the body, it's so easy to quantify how dangerous that is, what levels of inflammation that creates in our physical system. They can literally, you can record the impact of cortisol and inflammation in the body, right? And we can trace back autoimmune diseases and the source of the stress and all of the the stress, the impact of stress on the body is huge to the extent where if you're doing an organ transplant in the body, you are injected with synthetic but cortisol, because what it does is it suppresses the immune system in the body, so much so that because the body's not really functioning because the immune system is so suppressed by cortisol, it doesn't even notice a switch of an organ. So they try and suppress the immune system so that the body doesn't detect what's this foreign body and doesn't reject it. So they use cortisol to suppress you that much that your body can't even notice an organ transplant, right? And yet we're like, is stress really real? Well, it's real enough to, you know, allow an organ transplant, which is used medically. So it's like again, you know, it's a lot of myth dispelling, like energy is real, emotions are real, and they have a real physical impact on our body. So um I guess that would be, yeah, that's kind of my take on energy more from an emotional perspective. Anything that you would add to that, Beck?

SPEAKER_00 20:30

Well, I was just thinking as you were talking, you know, because we recorded a few episodes prior to this one where we've talked about like masculine and feminine, you know, toxic and um divine masculine and feminine. And if you think about like toxic masculinity being about denial of emotion, right? And what we are living in is a world that is, you know, the structures were built on these patriarchal beliefs where emotion was denied. So, of course, like our healthcare system has evolved to just disregard emotion because we've disregarded the feminine in so many ways, you know? And then not only that, we've built a healthcare system that is, you know, it it's big business, it funds like the pharmaceutical industry, which is all about money and you know, like those kind of things. So, why would the Western medical system move away from that when it generates like billions and billions of pounds, dollars, whatever? You know, like it it I feel like that's why it's an uphill battle. And I think it's only through people like us, and you know, I know we listen to other podcasts and other people, and we're all sharing stuff with each other as well as we. Find it, it's only by people literally speaking about it that the systems will change because the systems will have to change. You know, we've entered from an astrological point of view, Pluto being in Aquarius, it's gonna be people are no longer gonna accept being told by the doctor like your arthritis is you know is what it is. They're gonna want to understand that it's an autoimmune condition and the roots of it, because people are realizing it's not just just about a cause, you know, like a symptom and trying to heal a symptom, you've got to go deeper.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

This is it, and it's like, do you know what irritates me with it? And I do have compassion, I don't want to keep poo-pooing the Western Health system. And doctors are genuinely doing the best they can with the tools they have, they're coming from an education system, they want to help people, it's not their fault. But you're right, I mean, Peter Crone quite famously said, you know, never was there a medical meeting, you know, where the finances, so the sales of of product have lowered and they've been happy, right? So they're celebrating when they're selling more product medicine. So is there interest in making people better naturally? It's really hard to argue that it would be when ultimately it is about a bottom line. Um, and you'd hope otherwise, and I hope otherwise, and that was really disheartening when I when I read that from Peter Crohn, but makes you think, you know. But I think what's interesting now is like we're in crisis, at least the NHS is in crisis. And so only this morning I saw it was on Yoga Alliance, and they have created, you know, a yoga for NHS program. So now that we're like, okay, we now can't handle the amount of symptom treatment. Okay, now let's start going for root cause. And so now they're turning to things like yoga and meditation, and all of this stuff is becoming more mainstream because they can't cope with the symptom treatment anymore. So, which is really good, it's really exciting that we're getting to a point where they're really, you know, starting to prioritize getting to the root of the issue, which is stress. You know, you talk about arthritis, anything ending in itis means inflammation. And arthrit is the joints, it's inflammation of the joints. And yet what happens is the doctors kind of go, oh, well, that's it, you've got arthritis full stop, you know, and it kind of becomes your identity, like my name's Kathy, and I've got arthritis, like it's part of you. And actually, it's like, well, it's inflammation. If you learn how to reduce the inflammation in your body through what you eat and through how you feel and managing your emotions, you know, that inflammation would subside. And so maybe the arthritis wouldn't be there anymore. You know, autoimmune diseases, same thing, stress. If we can reduce the stress process, CBT, the way the thought pattern happens, to make us think that way, to make us release the cortisol or the stress hormone, would that disease still happen? And because there's no fact on this, you know, people question it and they're scared because they don't want to be poorly, which I understand. So they take the medication, which has huge side effects, and they're not treating the root cause. But I'm like, what's it gonna cost you to go to a yoga class or try meditation? Just try it. If you're not afraid of it, it's really not gonna do anything worse for you than helping you face your emotions, which I think is what people are most scared of. They're actually most scared of facing the truth, you know, of being with themselves. But if you can be brave enough to do that, you know, the the ramifications are huge, both emotionally, physically, you know, socially, and the trajectory of your life, really, because you know what they say, isn't it, that you know, your thoughts make your feelings and your feelings make your personality, and your personality makes your destiny. Like, what could be more important than working on the way that you think and facing your emotions for the trajectory of your life? Um, so yeah, there's a lot in there, isn't there? I think for me, like if we we're talking about emotions and energy and energy flow in the body, to take this back to like my first point, which is that emotion means energy in motion, right? And that we have a duistic system in the West. And holistic systems tend to be a lot more effective because they work with symptom treatment with the root of the symptom, which is usually an emotion. Um, and so energy being known as prana. So in yoga we call it prana, um, which is our life force, you know, and interesting when you're talking about neutrinos because it's breath. Breath is our life force, so how we breathe really impacts our emotional and energetic state. And um, traditions like TCM, so uh traditional Chinese medicine really use this and would prescribe based on what they would call qi, you know, which is similar to prana. Um, so in yoga, we talk about the prana, the energy moving through the nadis, which is the energetic system in the physical body. Uh, whereas when we look at Chinese medicine and they're talking about qi, it works through the meridians, which I know you work with a lot in yin, and yin poses and postures and how they can um impact your meridian system and your health. Ultimately, what we're trying to do, regardless of the system, and hopefully it's a holistic one, we're trying to find balance. And that's the really important part of this is understanding that disease, the word disease, is dis-ease. It is the body being out of balance, and that starts and that's energetically out of balance, right? And emotion is energy in motion, it's how the energy is moving around the body. So if we are out of balance emotionally for long enough, the body is the messenger and it's gonna start knocking on the door and going, hello, we're out of balance, and it's gonna show you that with a rash or a pain or inflammation or a headache or whatever it is to go, something needs to change. And the answer is not just going, take a painkiller, because probably the root of it hasn't changed. And if the root of is an emotion, then we have to do this emotional work, and so then begs the question okay, so how do we do this? How do we change our emotions? And Beck, I'll pass over to you on that. So, what what can we do for that?

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Well, I feel like you've you've really touched on something there with like energy, emotions being energy emotions. So that's like this idea that when something happens, um, you know, maybe it's something traumatic. I don't know, we have a car crash, something like that, a stressful experience, that those emotions become imprinted in our energetic system. What you've just talked about through the meridians uh or the nadis and impact the chakras of our body, which are like the energetic centers. So it's like, you know, we've got to start to understand that is what happens. And I think people are starting to talk about trauma more. But for me, like it's about then realizing like it's not just all a quick fix. We can't just take a pill, like you said, you know, and we can't also outsource the responsibility for our own healing or coming back to balance. What is healing? It's wholeness, it's coming back into wholeness. We can't keep outsourcing that to, you know, to other people, to doctors, and saying, you know, this keeps I keep getting headaches. You know, when the doctor doesn't have the education and the skills that we're talking about to kind of link these things together. So we're giving all of our power away. What if we realized that, you know, our emotions are messengers and we just got to start listening to them. So, you know, in that example, we have a traumatic effect event, we've got to accept that, you know, often our feelings that we try and run away from. You you talked about this earlier, people don't want to feel the hard things. You know, we run away from those emotions, then they become imprinted in our energetic system. And we've got to understand that negative or more challenging emotions are just simply a natural response to what is happening, they're not something to be to run away from and be afraid of. We've got to accept that, like, someone dies, you're gonna feel grief, like that's normal. You know, you lose your job, you're going to feel stressed out or anxious. It's a normal response, and that those emotions are just visitors. And what we don't want to do is like for have to have those emotions get trapped in the body and trapped in the in the track with. So for me, it's working with being more accepting of all emotions.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

I love that, and so what we know from that exactly what you're saying about energy becoming trapped. So, how does energy become blocked? So it's emotional stress, so unprocessed emotions. So when we don't process our emotions, ultimately when we deny them, you know, when we're not welcoming them and being with them, um, you know, so we're not processing them. And that's what can lead to this energy block in the body, trauma, stress as well. It can be like impact trauma, but also remembering that trauma is a real drip, drip, drip effect, you know. I had a friend over this morning, she's talking about how she's had twins. She's got a son, Lenny's age, and then she's got um twins, Theo's age, and like a beautiful but trauma, you know, like and and she probably wouldn't say that because she's so gracious. But I'm listening to her, and how she used to have to talk about like getting them to bed and not having enough arms and doing one at a time, and then how do you do that? You know, and it's that's a really long time that it's having a huge impact on her nervous system at some point when it's possible, you know, when you come up for air and they're all you know up on their feet, you can kind of look back and go, maybe I can process a bit of that because otherwise that's gonna stay in the body. And this is what it's about it's about processing emotions, understanding that trauma doesn't have to be a huge event, it can just be a drip-drip-drip effect of something quite normal that has had a big impact on you. And grief, you know, grief blocks chakras too. And we're gonna go on to explain how this impacts the chakras and which ones and where. Negative thought patterns. So repeating negative thought patterns or beliefs can create an energetic stagnation, um, which affects how the energy moves through the body, and we want it to be flowing, you know, like a river. We want that clear water to be flowing, we don't want it to get stagnant and stuck, and that's when we would experience disease. Physical tension, so chronic muscle tension, poor posture. So it's this really symbiotic um relationship that the body and the mind have. So when the mind is healthy, the body is healthy, but equally, when the body is healthy, the mind is healthy. So when we stop moving physically, we stop moving emotionally, you know. So the two it works both ways. So the body does physically, uh, we need to have good posture for the energy to be flowing, you know, we need to be moving regularly, um, otherwise, that is going to impact our emotions. So, just how our emotions impact our body, our body impacts our emotions too. Um, and spiritual disconnect. So, disconnection from one's true purpose, which we talk about with the north node, our true purpose, which is in your birth chart, um, you know, it really disrupts a sense of inner peace or purpose, and that creates an energy blockage. And where those um blockages that I've spoken about, they connect to very specific areas of the body. Okay, and that's where our chakras can come in almost as a map of where is this disease showing up, and what then can I do to bring myself back into balance to treat the symptoms. So, what do you think on that, Beck?

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Yeah, I completely just agree with everything you've said, and it's yeah, it's really looking at everything is connected, isn't it? And you know, we've talked about how we've got this dualistic health system and how you know holistic health works, but how holistic health works as well is it is it does acknowledge like spiritual health, which is just denied from our everyday existence, you know. There's I bet you couldn't find anything in the NHS around spiritual health if you tried, you know. So, yeah, I completely agree with what you're saying. And then I think also I'd add to that to say, you know, then when we're mastering our emotions in that way and understanding how they move through the body, we can then move into like emotional alchemy where we transform those perhaps lower vibration emotions into a higher vibrational state. So, you know, anger's a really powerful emotion because, yeah, and it can be really dangerous when it gets trapped in the body. And there's like, I've read things, you know, the correlation between like trapped and repressed anger, and then you've got like that impacts the throat chakra because you don't speak the words, uh, you know, and people get jaw pain uh and things like that, but thyroid problems, like literally everything's connected. Whereas, like, if you used that anger, you know, if you if you understand this, everything we're talking about about emotions and how they're simply energy that needs to be transmuted, what if you transform that anger? You know, you realize that anger's a messenger telling you something's wrong, and you use that anger to like be real willpower or courage to be the fuel, literally the fuel to make you stand up for yourself, set new boundaries, you know, take a decisive action, then like that's literally when your life is going to change. So, and this is where I'm saying if we're outsourcing that, if you go to the doctor and say, I'm feeling, you know, I uh maybe that you go to the doctor with your thyroid, the doctor's not going to do the work for you of linking those dots, or you know, maybe you go and you say I've got anger issues, but it's a really about taking ownership of your emotions and self-responsibility.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Exactly. And do you know it's interesting when you talk about that? Like, would you find spirituality in the NHS? And I'd say it this has been the game changer for me, actually, my spiritual health and part of this podcast, and astrology being a huge part of that. So I got to a certain place where I was really comfortable with the psychology and how that impacted my emotions, really good with that. Um, and that was a huge leap forward from like my old Western perspective, right? And my thought process on needing to achieve and all of that, shifting massively to actually about being peaceful and therefore, you know, my body not having to express disease. That was a game changer, you know. Understanding that my cycles of burnout were coming from like, and we'll we'll do an episode on Ayurveda, but this like constant need to like achieve and um you know, and when you let that stuff go, your health improves, sure. There was something missing though that was like, but why? That was my constant thing, like, but why? But why does this happen to me? But why? And that in turn was actually creating this like a kind of anger or frustration, this lack of understanding in me. And it was only when I really got to grips with the spiritual health, and that is from astrology, that I've never felt so like vibrant in in all my years, right? And even this call, like I started this call today, and I was like, I'm buzzing, like the irony of that. Like, we're doing it, you know, an episode on like frequency, and I just I couldn't have more going on. Like right now, we're moving house in like five days' time, we're going holiday in seven days' time. You know, I've got a baby, I've got a toddler, like I'm running a couple of businesses, like we're doing a podcast, like there's a lot going on, and I'm loving it, and all the challenges that are within that. And you know, I was speaking to Adam about that last night because he was like, God, how you have attacked this packing is like a little bit scary. And I was like, Because you know what? It's like I know myself. I'm like, this is my jam. I'm the goat, right? I'm the Capricorn, I'm climbing a mountain. I bloody love a challenge, and I love order and I love organization. So, like a house move and packing, like this is my thing, right? And like running the business and project management of like a house renovation, like, yeah, this is all my bag. And knowing that is like, I'm not this isn't a stress, this is like what the stuff that I love, like you know, and being connected to my purpose of going, okay, I know what my north node is, I know where I'm going, I'm making the decisions in my life to make a life that I love. What could be like, even if it's challenging, it's not stressful anymore because there's no fear. That's really different. The difference between like challenge and stress is the removal of fear, and knowing my purpose from a birth chart perspective and how the planets are impacting me on a daily basis, and like when I'm gonna hit struggle and when I'm not, that has unlocked a different level of vitality in me, of peacefulness and of excitement. And and I felt like I was already quite far in my journey, you know, from a yoga perspective of physical and emotional health. But the spiritual health was missing, and that has really changed things for me. So, yeah, I guess that's just a I suppose a thank you as well, Becky. But you know, the importance of that spiritual health aspect that you touched on lightly, but I think the impact of that is huge. And when you say, like, you know, for me, I look at men's health, for example, and I'm speaking to Adam a lot about this, and we're gonna get ads on the podcast because he's doing more and more on like men's mental health, which is amazing. Purpose, you know, we talk about purpose in a way which is like, oh, I want to be a lawyer, I want to be a mum. Like, that's good, that's fine, that's purpose on a day-to-day, hourly basis. But in a lifetime, when you understand your purpose or your true north, you know, your north node, when hence why we called the podcast this, all of those things can change. The mum bit can change, the rugby player bit can change, all of it can change, and you're still okay. Because your north node, your true purpose is so much greater than that, you know, and like looking at Adam's birth chart and looking at you know, his being about, you know, kind of standing up for himself and making his own way, and mine being about actually taking responsibility and control of my life. When you have these big macro purpose for self-actualization, like it's you it's hard to be depressed, I think, because you know what you're working on. Then if you don't have that spiritual health, it's really easy to become depressed because if the job goes wrong, it feels like your life's gone wrong, but that's not what your life is about. Um, and that's what I think is you know really exciting about the spiritual health part on this, and that's a little bit of a divergent from how that connects to chakras. But anything you want to add to that, Beck?

SPEAKER_00 41:40

Yeah, I think it's as you've said, life is happening for you, not to you. It's that idea that even when you see have challenge, you know that you can look at that challenge challenge through a different lens to think, okay, that's like a little test to see, am I going to move towards my north node, or am I gonna default back to you know what might not necessarily be easy, but it's like been your pattern, you know? So when you can see the world through that lens, and and you know, you can apply it to the world because you start to look at everything and think, okay, you know, what if I don't know, you know, we've got Donald Trump just come into power. Maybe you hate Donald Trump in the US, and you're like, yeah, but what if that's an opportunity for the world to become more awakened? Or you you know, it's just a more beautiful way to live. So I think even, you know, I'm I'm talking to people who might be skeptical, like, even if you're skeptical, you know, you start to live this way, it's just a more more beautiful way of living, and your frequency is higher, you know. I know we're going to hopefully get on to talk about frequency today, like because your emotional health is better, you know, you you no longer live from a place of fear, you have absolute trust that everything is happening for you, and that's where we see this real for me, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

This like ripple effect, you know, when we can start to understand that our feelings are like flags, they're for us to listen to, uh, to tell us when we're off path. If something doesn't feel good, it's because we're not supposed to be doing it, right? And sometimes it doesn't show up as literally as that. You know, I see this with Adam where like if his north node, like you know, what he's supposed to be working towards is like standing up for himself, it's gonna feel comfortable for him to not do that, and so he's gonna feel like a bit of fear around doing that standing up thing. But if he knows what his north node is and he goes, it's okay, feel the fear and do it anyway. This is where I'm working towards, then he's Gonna be self-actualizing, and when he then gets rewarded for that and gets the thing that he wants, then his life has this like snowball effect of you know, that breeds confidence, that breeds a higher frequency, then he does it again, then he gets more of what he wants, and then his life changes. So it's about knowing what your north mode is, like, and then that gives you the confidence to make the decisions to change your life, which increases your frequency, which attracts more of what you want into it. Um, and we may get on to law of attraction, but that might have to be another another episode. But that is working with energy and frequency. It's literally when you understand how energy works, you can manifest this stuff, especially when you understand what your you know, your north node is too. So let's talk a little bit more about frequency then because we understand energy, we understand that emotions are energy in motion, and how this is going to relate to the chakras. Okay, so Beck, so understanding how all of that is connected, how would you say that this relates to chakras and how the chakra system works?

SPEAKER_00 45:08

So, first of all, what are chakras? They're these energy centres that sit within the body, and there are seven main ones that are along the length of the spine, so from the base of the spine to the top of the head. And for me, they really act as like energetic storage systems. So if you thought of your human body as the computer, like the chakras are like the operating system. So, how like how good is your operating system? Is how good is your ability to process and manage energy, and that's the health of your chakras. So, and the way chakras work are like every experience we have leads an energetic mark within the corresponding chakra. So you talked about the heart earlier, you know, with um sort of those patients who perhaps have suffered from broken heart syndrome being treated differently. Like a broken heart would impact your heart chakra, and you know, which is literally within the heart space of your body, um, and leave an energetic mark there. So the chakras become programmed or coded based upon the emotions passing through us and how we process those emotions. So if we're you know, we all experience like challenging times, if we don't process those challenging times well, they're gonna code our chakras, and then you know, we're perhaps gonna attract more of those things towards us. So, because what the chakra is trying to do is come into balance, it's trying to um yeah, regulate itself, and how does it do that? Well, you know, it it's got to um move from say being deficient to yeah, perhaps being more in excess. So, to talk about that a little bit, every chakra uh can manifest different symptoms in the body and emotionally differently, depending if it's deficient, if it's in balance, or if it's in excess. Is that making sense?

SPEAKER_01 47:36

Yeah, exactly. So we have these chakras along the body, and they are, as you say, like spinning wheels, and yeah, we're trying to bring them into balance, and they can be deficient, and I think this will come to life a little bit more when we look at the chakras and we look at the qualities of them. So you can have not enough of a certain quality, and then you can have too much of a certain quality, a bit like the masculine and feminine energy we were talking about before, that anything that is too much becomes toxic, it's in excess, um, or if you haven't got enough of it, then it's deficient of that. So when we experience disease in the body, it's that we're either deficient or we're in excess of a certain energy, right? And each chakra kind of takes ownership of a certain energy in that way, and where that disease is going to show up in the body physically, it could relate to the chakra of that area, which is useful in the way that I said it's like a map. So, for example, using the example we used before of the um the sore throat, right? So the throat chakra being the shura, the communication chakra, so are we under communicating or are we overcommunicating in which is making this imbalance in the throat chakra? And I'm super over-generalizing that, but when you understand how the chakras work, so these spinning fields of energy within the body, and you then know where their placement relates to in terms of the energies and the emotions that you're working with, when disease is showing up in your body, you're then able to use that as a map to go, okay, it's in my heart, so therefore I need to be working with these emotions. Is it deficient? So do I need to be doing more of that, or is it an excess? And so I need to be doing less of that to bring ourselves into balance. And it's important, I think, to say that these the chakras don't work in isolation, so it's not like I'll just fix one and then my job is done. They all need to be in balance. So sometimes it's described a bit like a spinning top, like you spin one and it's connected to the others. So if one wobbles, they all wobble, so they are all connected. Um, so I think if we look at specific areas of the body and then kind of talk about how that can show up in disease. So what we call the root chakra, so muladhara, and obviously the Sanskrit's not important, but you might hear it. So this is the base of the spine, so near the tailbone, and that is associated with safety, grounding, stability, and survival instincts. And the physical areas that that can relate to are the lower body, so the legs, the feet, but also the bones, the large intestine, and the rectum. The emotional impact of this is dealing with feelings of safety, security, and survival. So if you are experiencing disease in those areas of the body, then those are the emotions that you might want to be working with. Um, and that you know continues all the way through. So the second chakra being the sacral chakra, which is sphisthana, this is the lower abdomen, so just below the navel, and this is uh associated with creativity, sexuality, pleasure, emotional connection. Physical areas are the reproductive organs, the kidneys, the bladder, and sometimes the hips. And then the emotional impact is about emotions, relationships, sensuality, like connectedness, really. I'm whizzing through this just to give us a summary, and then we'll can go into them a bit more, Beck. And then solar plexus chakra, so manipura. So this is upper abdomen, so just around the stomach area, associated with personal power, self-esteem, confidence, and willpower. The physical area would be the stomach, liver, pancreas, digestive system, and the emotional impact could be self-confidence, self-control, personal strength. Then you've got the heart chakra, annihatta, the center of the chest, so near the heart. This is associated with uh love, compassion, forgiveness, and connection. Okay, so when we talk about this disease in the heart, these are the emotions that we're looking at. Physically looking at heart, lungs, also thymus, and the circulatory system, and the emotional impact is that it governs love, relationships, and compassion. Um so if you've got heart issues, that's what you're looking at. You know, you're looking at compassion, you're looking at relationships, you're looking at love. Throat chakras, we said for shudder, so throat, neck area, communication, self-expression, and truth, throat, vocal cords, mouth, and ears, and dealing with speaking your truth, you know, and again, either too much, probably where mine goes into excess, um, or not enough. Yeah, being in deficiency is going to show up as a disease in that area. Third eye, so ajna being the forehead just between the eyebrows, um, associated with intuition, insight, wisdom, and perception, physical areas, eyes, brain, maturity gland, emotional impact, our intuition, imagination, and understanding. So when you look at things like uh, you know, issues with the eyes, the brain, even headaches, right? And the issues with understanding or imagination. So it's gonna be also be really useful for kids as well, but for your own sake, bringing yourself into balance too. And then finally, the crown chakra. So sashrara, which is the top of the head, which is associated with spiritual connection. So, this is what we're talking about in terms of spiritual health, enlightenment or higher consciousness, physical areas of the brain, and also the nervous system. Um, and when we talk about that, the spiritual health, you know, soothing our nervous system, you can see that connection there. Um, this is tied to a sense of spiritual connection, awareness of the greater universe, and purpose. So now that you kind of have an understanding of like what the chakras are and where they're located and what emotions, you can then it's probably easier to imagine if you're experiencing disease, so the body expressing disease, being out of balance in those areas, what emotions then you could work with to bring yourself back into balance, whether that is in deficiency or excess, to your point earlier, Beck.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

I was just thinking while you were talking as well, of like, okay, you know, we've said all this, you still don't believe in chakras. Do you believe in your your hormonal system? Do you believe in hormones? Of course you do, because you've been told about it and you've been told like how you know your hormones are what cause you to get pregnant, or you know, they regulate your thyroid, like you've probably got some awareness of that, but every chakra is associated also with like a major um endocrine gland in the body, and this is exactly the point that you're making, you know. So, what the ancient um teachers knew way before like modern science has uh discovered and created the science around the endocrine system, you know, that's what they were already doing. So, yeah, I think when you can understand that as well, I feel like it it gives it a lot of credibility.

SPEAKER_01 54:56

Absolutely, because the endocrine system being completely connected to the hormonal system, right? Yeah. All of this stuff is thousands of years old. We just we believe it's like new age, but this has been around so much longer, and it it like sometimes it blows my mind that we'll be like, I don't know if like movement and breath work is really gonna do anything. But see this tiny white circle in my hand that I'm about to swallow with a glass of water. I think this pill might that might do it all. Like so, when we look at um physical, like really literal, I'm being really literal now to help, hopefully. So these physical indicators, so like root chakra, so that being you know the base so we spoke about, um, that might show up as an imbalance as lower back pain, sciatica, leg or foot issues, constipation, um, and the emotions that come up with that, is this an expression of imbalance, by the way, would be anxiety, uh, fear, financial difficulties too, um, feeling unstable or disconnected, uh, disconnected from life, not grounded, right? And not knowing your place in the spiritual world. So we can see how, if you were to understand your birth chart, how that might bring that chakra into balance. And I should say, as well, obviously, being the kind of yoga spokesperson here, is that the magic, and I'm gonna say this like as a real flippant comment, and there's so much science behind it, but a yoga sequence is designed to balance your chakras. So, like Charles Pose, for example, or downward-facing dog, you know, the order that you do the poses in is literally moving the chi, the energy stimulating that specific area of the body to bring the wheel back into the frequency that brings it into balance. So, you know, it's not just about lengthening hamstrings, those are great byproducts, but it's also about balancing your energetic systems in the body, the chakra system. So each yoga pose relates to a chakra in the body. So if you're working with something emotionally like the heart and you were trying to bring it into balance, there are yoga poses you can do as well to open and stimulate the flow of energy in that area, which is why you feel so amazing after a yoga class, an energetic shift because you have literally moved physically moved your body, and that motion moving the body has changed the emotion, the energy in motion around the body. So physically moving your body changes your emotional state, and when you're doing it in a way that balances the chakras, you're gonna literally feel energetically different after that class, which is what I felt having been depressed for so long after dad passed away, going to a 45-minute yoga class, I was like, What is this magic that these people are doing? And it's been like my life's work to figure out what the hell that was that worked more than antidepressants or alcohol or food or the other stuff I was trying to fix myself with, and actually, I could just move my body and it would rebalance my energy centers in this way, and this is why, because it works with the chakra system, unlike any other exercise that we do. You can feel great after tennis because you've moved, you know, you pumped your lungs a little bit. But if a yoga sequence is taught in the right way, it will work every single energetic system unlike any other sport that we can do. Um, so root chakra, and then I'm not going to go through all of them, but basically, you could understand and you can, you know, research very easily how does disease show up in the body in our chakras, and you'll be able to then map back what disease is going on to your body, where it is in your body, and therefore what emotions you can work with, and what yoga poses you can be doing to bring it back into balance.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And like to add to the root chakra, when we talk about the hormonal system, it's associated with the adrenal glands. So you were talking about like lack of safety, uh, fear, anxiety, you know, what happens when we feel feel fear uh or anxiety, adrenaline, and cortisol is produced, you know, from that area of the body. So it is quite literally, you know, stimulating those hormonal systems when a chakra is out of balance. So, yeah, like you say, you know, when you start to make those links, you can quite easily go and like research the different chakras and and find out what's going on, but also isn't that such an example of you know why spiritual health is so important?

SPEAKER_01 59:42

Because when you trust, and we spoke on episodes before about how important it is to trust, just trust, as you have just said, that life is happening for you rather than to you. When you really can believe that and trust that, and when you kind of take all of this stuff on board and get to know your birth chart and all of that, there is not the fear because you're trusting, because you know that even challenges that are sent your way or sent your way for a reason, and you can start to see the world like that. When that happens and your fear subsides, your subconscious system takes fear out of it because there is such a deep trust, your physical health changes dramatically, and and that's where it's so important. I think fear is a huge underneath all stress, they say stress is an achiever's word for fear. People don't want to walk around and be going, I'm scared, I'm scared. But really, they're happy to go, I'm stressed. But if you ask them what they're stressed about, they're scared of something. If we can remove fear out of the equation by trusting, like deeply trusting, then our physical health changes, you know, dramatically, like night and day. So, what are the other ways then? We've spoken about the energetic system, the chakra system we've summarized, how disease can show up in those areas. We know that yoga poses can change that, but what else can we do to bring our chakra system into balance?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

Um, there are like lots of different tools, but for me, you know, like the number one uh way is like it's really going deep within and like doing the shadow work, understanding why certain patterns keep reoccurring in your life, uh and doing that, you know, because I think emotional alchemy, which is what we're talking about, does require active participation. So, what we don't want to do is like yoga can make us feel amazing and raise our frequency, and then we go back, and that's amazing, you know, and it and it sort of brings to the surface the the things that we need to work on, and then maybe hopefully we do go away and work on them. What we don't want to do, because I'm going to talk about Reiki and quantum healing, which are amazing modalities, is you know, we've talked about this healthcare system where we say, give me a pill and make it better. You know, you can't then do the same thing with Reiki and say, Oh, my chat, you know, I know my chakras are out of balance or whatever. I'm gonna go and find a healer and get healed. Like the only one who's got the power to heal, to bring your chakras back into wholeness and balance is you, you know, and you have to own that. So I wanted to say that before we talk about uh any other modalities, really, because it's it's it's key, you know. Even come and have an astrology reading with me, but don't expect me to tell you like everything that you need to do, you know, it's like you can't outsource your power to someone else because that's not what it's all about.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

So that's an important message back before you go on. I'm just gonna say that, like we've said before, in that way, because it's like you've got symptom treatment, which could be a pill, or you've got symptom treatment, which could be like a yoga class or breathing technique, or I'm gonna say that the symptom treatments that I've mentioned have far less side effects, right? That's like they're a natural way of doing it, and you won't have to deal with side effects. Of course, at some point we, you know, we need medication. If we've got that far down the road, breathing techniques may not cut it, okay? But they're definitely gonna help and they cost nothing. So you can be doing it at the same time for sure. So things like restoring balance can be done through yoga. We've spoken about specific postures, can open and align the chakras, breathing exercises. I mean, breath is so powerful, and I'm sure you'll go on to talk about this a bit more, but just a real quick list before we go into kind of Reiki and that sort of healing. So, breathing exercises, uh, also things like meditation, this changes our frequency, and sound healing. And we'll talk about frequency in a bit, which really explains why sound healing works. And I know you're like an expert in this, Beck, so that's your field really. But also things like essential oil and crystals. I mean, we'll get onto frequency, which will explain why. But crystals have a certain frequency, and we synchronize with that frequency, which brings us into healing. Same with essential oils, right? So, all these natural approaches make a huge difference on our well-being system. So we can restore balance energetically through, yeah, meditation, yoga, breathing, sound, essential oils and crystals too. And and what we've always said, and what I've always said, is like you know, you talk about how you've got to do the work and know what the work is, and in that way, we say like astrology is the map. Astrology shows you where you're going so that you know what the work is. Yoga gives you the tools to get from A to B. So that journey from the south node to the north node, from the old self to the new self, the self-actualization that we're trying to do in this lifetime, it's gonna be tricky. That is not gonna be a walk in the park. That is a lifetime walk, and there's gonna be huge obstacles on the way. And so we're gonna need some symptom treatment along the way. We're gonna need some tools in our belt, and that's what yoga looks like. That's what those tools look like: meditation, yoga, breathing, affirmations, sound healing, essential oils, and Reiki being a part of that, right, Becky?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:39

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you've explained that so well. So, you know, yeah, we've got to look at these other healing systems as like support systems for us. So, how something like Reiki works or you know, any kind of like energetic healing is that practitioner. Is channeling universal life force energy through their own crown chakra through their body and through you know the chakras in the hands to like impact your energy field, your energetic field, your chakras. And you know, then that might bring emotion that's stuck to the surface up so that it can be felt and released, moving through the body, and that can result in like a shift in consciousness or change in emotional state, and helping you, if you're receiving that, feel more balanced and centered. Um, and it also can you know help with creating balance with the chakras so that you know maybe we are moving through something and we're doing the work, but what it does is it creates the smoothest possible alignment so that we can have like those smoother emotional transitions where maybe we're we move more quickly then from feeling anger or grief to the higher frequency emotions of like love or gratitude or peace. So Reiki works on this energetic level and it's really supporting, it's designed to support the active work that we're doing by accelerating that healing process. Um, you know, and it will be the same, you know, say you're doing a lot of this, um, sitting with yourself and doing the inner work, you know, you know, you're gonna feel a hell of a lot better if you go and do have Reiki or do a yoga class, you know, it's like a tool along the way to help you.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Exactly. And I feel like we can't talk about things like Reiki and chakras without explaining frequency a bit, Beck. So, and I know you're you're amazing at this because of your work with sound. Um, so I mean interject and you know, update as I go, but essentially when we spoke about energy and atoms, like everything has a frequency, so everything is vibrating and oscillating at a certain frequency. And what we know is that there's like optimal frequency for health, and that our frequency can be too low, and that can be connected to depression, and our frequency can be too high, and that can be connected to stress and anxiety, and so we're trying to get to this optimum healing frequency, and some people say that's between seven and fourteen hertz, and we can actually measure our frequency. So, for the non-believers, there are, you know, there are, I want to say machines for want of a better word, to literally measure frequency. Um, and some of those would include biofeedback and heart rate variability, say HRV. So, one of the more established ways to measure how the body's energy and stress levels fluctuate is through this biofeedback and heart rate variability monitoring. Um, so it's literally it's about the variation in the time interval between heartbeats, um, and that can basically tell you how the person is doing energetically with their frequency and what has impacted that, whether that's stress, anxiety, or depression, depending on that space between the heartbeats.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:19

Yeah, heart rate uh variability, we talk about this on the yin teacher training, and your heart rate variability is like your ability to recover. So when the heart rate speeds up, you know, because you're stressed, or maybe you've done exercise, whatever it is, but you've put the body or the energetic system of the body through stress, your heart rate variability is your ability to then restore to come back to a baseline and the time between that. And so, you know, this is linked to the vagus nerve. So, you know, we talked about vagal tone a few episodes back where you know the vagus nerve is responsible for keeping us um healthy through you know keeping us calm. So it's our ability to yeah, downregulate quickly. So something stressful happens, how quickly do we come back to our place of center? And that's what we're talking about, right? With emotion, because we experience something, how quickly do we move through that emotion and let it go instead of it festering in the body? So you can start to yeah, really see like how those how those things are linked, and this is resilience.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:40

That is like there is a defect a definition of resilience, is you know, everybody's have stress, everyone has stress, stressful things that's life, right? Life is stressful, but it's how our vagal tone like copes with that. How do we come back to base? How quickly do we recover from that stressful event? Well, that's how resilient you are, you know, and that's how when you have good vagal tone, you can become more resilient, you can take on as much as you like because the thing that is the stressor has impacted you a small amount, you've got back to base really, really quickly. Whereas, you know, other stresses are going to take you forever to come back to base, and that means you're gonna have a lower resilience. So, another way of measuring frequency is um it's called EEG, and that basically works in knowing that the brain produces different types of waves depending on the level of consciousness and mental state. So when we look at beta waves, they're around 13 to 30 hertz, and this is associated with active thought, alertness, or anxiety. Alpha waves, 8 to 12 hertz, so that is relaxed state and calmness, theta waves 4 to 8, which is deep relaxation, meditation, but could also be depression, and then delta waves, so 0.5 to 4, which is deep sleep, um, but again can link to depression. So there's ways of measuring our frequency and seeing where we're at within that that state, um, and something we haven't spoken about, we don't need to go into today, but is it is sleep and how we can actually manipulate our sleep zones as well to impact our frequency. There is another way called uh Killian photography, which is about photographing your aura, so a way of um photographing the electromagnetic field or aura around a person's body. So I don't know if you want to speak into that a little bit better.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:30

Yeah, I've had that done uh before, and so with the chakras, the chakras are all associated with a different colour and starting with the root chakra, which is red, and we go through the orders of the colour of the rainbow up to like the purple at the the crown chakra. So, you know, this is why it said, you know, if someone dies and they pass over the rainbow bridge, it's like, you know, it's that the rainbow bridge of the chakras is what you take beyond, you know, energy can't be created or destroyed, is what you take with you, which is why I've said to you before, and I think I've said it on this podcast, the work that we do on our chakras is like, you know, if people made paid more attention to that, because that's what you take with you, you don't take the money with you or the house, you know, it's what is literally how your chakras end up programmed that that goes with you. So I just wanted to add that in, it's a little bit of a tangent, but yeah, so the the chakras are all these different colours, and the way that the human aura works is that there are different layers to the human aura that are associated with every chakra. So we've got the root chakra, that forms like the first layer of your aura, the the layer that's the very closest to your skin, and then they work outwards. So when if you have your aura photograph, what you're seeing is like the colours of that aura, depending on like do you have um a deficiency in that chakra or is it in excess? Is it in good balance? Because aura photography also can uh photograph the chakra as well. So you can see if your chakras are in balance or not, and you know, we can be skeptical about aura, but you know what I would say to you when you go into a room and you yes, I know we pick things up through body language, but what you sense from somebody else is like your aura, because our aura is like quite big, and we can expand our aura or we can contract our aura. Um, you know, we're picking up on someone else's energetic field, which is literally the programming of their chakras. Like, what mood are they in? What are they, you know, you can sometimes sense when there's just like a sadness about someone. That's what we're picking up on. So, yeah, when we're looking at the quality of the chakras, we're looking at the quality of the aura as well. So, also, you know, things that might impact our chakras and our aura are things like alcohol, which can cause tears in your uh auric field, which then mean that our chakras are affected by that. Um, so yeah, that can be another like really interesting lens to look at it through. And you can see like the predominant colours in your aura, um, that might tell you, you know, certain things. And although our auric feel can change slightly, and it changes while we're growing up, and the chakras are developing, you know, then it it sort of predominantly settles and stays a certain colour. So I don't know, you might I've had mine done and you might guess like my aura is like uh a light lavender, you know, it's crown chakra, you know. Um, but someone else's might be like more green and heart chakra. Like what is your you know, because it can also show you like what is your what is your gift and what are you here to to bring as well. So yeah, it's an it's another interesting way to look at energy. I love that. I need to get mine done.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:38

Um and so what about sound then, Bet? Because that is definitely an area of your speciality.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:44

Yeah, like sound um is amazing, and I work with crystal bowls, and as you said, like crystals are conductors of frequency, but they're also amplifiers of energy. So when we're working with sound, we are half of it is like whatever intention you're you're working with, with that sound, but you know, sound waves are traveling out and trying to bring the human body uh and energetic systems as well back into resonance with the frequency of that sound. So when we're working like with crystal bowls, we're working with like very pure frequency, and every uh every note, every like crystal bowl is said to be associated with a different chakra, um, because every chakra is associated with a different frequency. But I think because of like the different bass lines of people, you know, you can't necessarily say if I were to play my heart chakra bowl, uh, you know, are you gonna feel that in your heart? Like, not necessarily, you know, but it's really about bringing us back to yeah, like um back to back to health and back to frequency. And I really feel like frequency and sound is the future for healing. Um, when I did my sound healing course, there are people a lot more skilled than me with sound um who are literally able to work with very specific notes and sound in order to like literally shrink the size of tumors, you know. So it's about like harmonising the body back with nature.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:45

It's absolutely fascinating. Um, I know there's lots of different sound therapies out there. Um you know, it's worth trying a sound bath just to experience the impact that it can have on you, and if nothing else, it's a lovely evening to lie on your own and listen to the most incredible sound. Like that is a lovely experience itself, even better if you get to do it with a loved one, you know. But the fact that it's also helping you balance your system energetically and so physically, what isn't there to love about that, you know? Um, and yeah, I think it's just again, you know, reiterating the concept of like synchronization. So when we look at like Newton's cradles, it's some of the stuff that we teach on yoga teacher training, and how eventually they synchronize, you know, the little silver balls, you pull them away, and they all synchronize. And essentially what we're doing is laying down and allowing our body to synchronize with the frequency in the room with these instruments that are designed to bring us into a healing state. And in a way, when you think about all these things that we can do to manipulate our frequency, you know, yoga poses, you've got to get in some leggings, you've got to do some movement, you've got to, you know, there's a bit of hard work in there, meditation. People feel pretty hard, you know, they get they get distracted quite easily. Breathing, you've got to do something, you've got to know what you're doing. Soundbath, you just turn up in your jamies with a blanket and you lay down, and you basically let somebody else like do that work for you. And it's such a gift. And I know you are so gifted at it, Becky, and everybody absolutely loves your soundbaths in the studio. Um, so it's definitely, definitely worth trying if you haven't before. Get over the fear of the woo-woo and just feel the impact of it, you know, on your nervous system and your physical system.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:38

Yeah, exactly. That's what I love about sound, is it's so accessible, you know. Literally nothing you need to do. And we could talk a lot about the science, but the best thing to do is like just go and have your experience of it. And often it can be like I think of uh a snowstorm, like the sound can activate all of the particles in your body, because we are actually predominantly space, you know, within our body, uh, even though we think we're solid mass, and it kind of shakes all of that up and allows it to settle again, like in a more um yeah, uh at a better frequency, essentially. So yeah, everyone should try a sound bath. And you know, where we are, we're really lucky because there are so many practitioners. You know, we're in, well, I'm in Worcestershire, I know you're in Devon, but where the shoot area is, there are so many beautiful sound practitioners out there, and it's definitely becoming more mainstream. So, yeah, get yourself along to a soundbath.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:48

And Beck, one of the uh things that I did want to touch on today is collective consciousness. So, we're talking about frequency now and how we can raise our own frequency, and you've mentioned like aura and in a room and energy and how you can feel certain energies in a room, but when we zoom out and look at that from a global perspective, even from a universal perspective, how how does that work from a free from frequency?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:17

So, really, we should start to talk about the earth. So, the earth, you know, she's the surface that we walk on every day and supports us. Like our body is designed to be at the same frequency as Earth. Um, and that is that's something that's measured through the Schumann resonance. You can Google Schumann resonance, and you know, a lot of stuff will come up about that. And what's happening at the moment is um we're having a lot of solar flares, it's just how the sun is at the moment with the like the solar cycles. We're in a time of high solar flare, and the sun activates life force energy on Earth, we know that, and what the sun does is cause Earth's frequency to rise, and what we're being called to do collectively is for our consciousness, our frequency to rise as well. And it's said that, like, you know, a person who's operating at say a frequency of like gratitude or love, you know, those higher frequencies, like offs offsets the frequency of like, I think it's like 20,000 people who are operating below like the baseline level of frequency, you know, where it starts to move into lower frequency emotion. So, you know, like all these people at the moment are like really doing the work, and collective consciousness is rising and Earth's frequency is rising, because we are at this key point in this 24,000-year cycle where like it's what's got to happen, consciousness has got to rise so that we can um you know move back into you know what's called the golden ages, if we're to talk about the cycles of time. And the more people whose frequency rise, the more people, you know, whose frequency rises. And it's said, I think there's a saying that like, you know, we've got to get to be more than 50%. I think it's 50, we've got to move from 51% love rather than fear. So that's what you know, that's what we're all working towards. And I think a lot of people are awakening to this, you know. We can see how yoga's taken off massively in the West in the last um, you know, 20-30 years, and now people are getting curious about things like astrology um and things like that as well. So, yeah, that's my view on collective frequency. Is there anything you want to add to that?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:16

Well, not really, I guess just about reinforcing that, you know, being the change you want to see. Like it does matter how you feel, and it does have an impact on what you do. And you know, the work that you do on yourself as an individual, yeah, it's not only going to improve your life and what you attract and your trajectory, and in turn, that's gonna impact the people directly in contact with you in your lifetime, also your children, you know, the work that you do in this lifetime is is saving generations doing that work. Um, but that even bigger than that, you know, that you're impacting the collective consciousness of the planet, like you are making a change, you're being the change that you want to see in the world. So, although it's hard, like there's nothing really more worthwhile, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:02

Yeah, for sure. And that you know, we can't underestimate the ripple effect, it is just huge. So, the more that we can work on our chakras, make sure that our own frequency is high, also, the less that we get impacted by the lower frequency stuff, you know, like some of the stuff that's in the news, because maybe we start to see it through that different lens that, oh, okay, like this is happening, because people need to wake up to this, you know, people need to see that you know, all kinds of stuff is going down in Hollywood or whatever, you know, and oh my god, like the world isn't perhaps what I what I thought it was, or you've turned a blind eye. It's about um, you know, seeing it through a different lens and not getting caught up in the in the story of everything and um yeah, dragged down into that negative frequency. So, of course, you know, as well, something I suppose that we ought to say as well, it's like you know, we become the energetic result of the people that we spend the most amount of time with. So, like choose those people, curate the people that are in your close field so that you know you can maintain that high, higher frequency. Um and you can't control other people, you know. We've had that conversation before, haven't we, about like let them, you know, and you've got to meet people with love and compassion and think, yeah, you know, they're trying the best they can, and you know, like that's all you can do. We can't change it. So focusing on yourself and your own frequency. Is like one of the most important jobs that you have. Because if you don't do that, like your children become affected, or you know, your family or your workplace becomes miserable. Literally, you you do have to be the change that you want to see.