In our final podcast for 2024, we catch up with Classic Wallaby Matt Cockbain to chat the Classics, coaching pathways and where he sees the Wallabies. Plus a big mail bag. Huge thanks to Leap Strategies and all our listeners for your support.

EARLY RELEASE. This week we catch up with the Super Rugby Commissioner, Carolyn Turnbull, to talk about the structure for next year, the future of Super Rugby and the effort WA has made to secure big rugby events for Perth.

The good news is, we talk about a cracking RugbyWA grand final. The bad news is, we also talk about the Wallabies.

While Heath Tessmann suns himself on a beach at Coral Bay, Mick Colliss and Mitch Hardy look at the recent internationals, the local grand finals and the winners at the RugbyWA awards breakfast.

After a break, two of us are back to just shoot the breeze, talk a bit of Wallabies and have a look at the local scene. Bar room rugby chat.