Health & Fitness Redefined

Embracing Well-being in Physical and Mental Fitness

August 19, 2024 Anthony Amen Season 4 Episode 32

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Can the spark of motivation transform into a disciplined routine that fuels a lifetime of fitness? This week on Health & Fitness Redefined, we welcome Christiaan, a martial arts maestro and personal trainer from the Netherlands, who shares his incredible journey across continents and martial arts disciplines. From karate and Sistema to Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do, Christian's pursuit of mastery has shaped not just his body, but his mind and spirit. He walks us through his solo travels to Australia and rigorous training in Hong Kong, revealing how these experiences have sculpted his unique approach to fitness that marries physical training with emotional and cognitive well-being.

Maintaining an engaging workout routine is no small feat, especially for those juggling myriad responsibilities and distractions. Christiaan offers invaluable insights into how personal trainers can craft individualized routines that keep clients motivated and far from the peril of monotony. We discuss the importance of setting realistic fitness goals and understanding the holistic concept of well-being, which encompasses physical, emotional, and spiritual dimensions. By aligning workouts with personal aspirations and fostering a deeper sense of purpose, Christiaan illustrates how individuals can build sustainable and rewarding fitness journeys.

The episode also deeply explores the relationship between discipline and motivation, using the vivid analogy of a fire—motivation as the spark and discipline as the fuel that keeps it burning. Christiaan draws wisdom from his mentor, Sifu Fung, to explain how self-worth, self-esteem, and self-confidence interplay in maintaining discipline. Additionally, we tackle the hurdles of overcoming negative self-perceptions and the critical importance of self-care and genuine human interaction. Christiaan's holistic approach to fitness underscores the broader societal implications, aiming to foster a supportive community where personal stories can bridge divides and nurture collective well-being. Don't miss this enlightening conversation that promises to transform your fitness journey inside and out.

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Hope Fitness Redefined. I'm your host, anthony Amen, and we have another great episode for all of you today. Hope you guys have been enjoying this summer. It is almost at its very end, boo. I know that means going back to school for the kiddies, but at least parents get some breathing room. I'll know how that feels five years from now. So anyway, without further ado, let's welcome to the show, christian. Welcome. It's a pleasure to have you. We found out English is now his third language, so we're excited he's on the show.

Speaker 2:

Welcome. Thank you very much. Yeah, nice to be here and I hope everybody can hear me speak very proper Texan. I don't think you got the Texan, but it's all right, certainly not no, I lived 36 years in the Netherlands and that makes me probably authentic Dutch, so I try to do it as good as I can.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's fair enough. Well, Christian, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started in the health and fitness world.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so when I was younger my father is a bouncer and when we were kids I had a lot of energy and he told me from a young age four years old I have to do something with that. And I had to go to karate lessons. So in my life, from four years old, I always was in martial arts, I was practicing something. So I've been to karate. Um, I did sistema, the russian, uh spetsnaz variant of it. Uh, I did, uh, the last thing I did was wing chun.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, so I thought in karate and sistema and wing chun and all the other things I did was just more for fun and just to pick things up. After that, in my young life, I went to Australia for a year to find out like, who am I exactly? What am I capable of if I'm being all alone? So I did that alone for a year. So I did that alone for a year and after that I went to Hong Kong and trained with a Sifu over there in a Jeet Kune Do style and also a little bit in Wing Chun style. So Jeet Kune Do is a style of Bruce Lee, if you're not familiar with it.

Speaker 1:

That's cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the guy actually looked like him, it was very funny and he also kicked also kicked his heart, I think as Bruce Lee did. So a lot of things learned, lessons learned. Also, different styles give you a lot of opportunities to look at, like, how do you train your body? So I became interested in how to train it well and, with the different insights and certain Eastern influence made me, I think, have a little bit of a different look at things Now and eventually, after talking with certain clients that I had because I became a personal trainer, I also was a PE instructor on schools, so for kids, but also till the age of 18, um, I did that for, I think, eight years.

Speaker 2:

Uh, yeah, and after that I thought, hey, something has to connect here, because if you train people and you do personal training, how can you connect the grid of it of just going out there and doing your workout with the emotional and cognitive side of it? You don't always want to train, you don't always want to just go 100%. So I had some guys doing CrossFit and I was interested, sure, I'll go with you guys. And I did a couple of times and I thought, oh, that's not really something for me, I don't want to die every time doing a training. I don't know, I'm not that fond of it and it's not because I'm lazy or that I'm not willing to go all in, but every time it's just not for me.

Speaker 2:

So eventually I thought I am going to write a book about it, what I thought and how to connect that psychology factor of it, and I put it in the storyline and made a psychological model in my book and that model is done from like six years of research and then two years I did uh, writing the book and researching of course, and I tried to do 100 years looking back in psychology and follow the big trends, like freud and uh carlos of young eric, ericsson and everybody a little bit famous to.

Speaker 2:

Hey, what do you have to say and how can I put this on one? We say A4, one letter, one page. So I did that eventually and that helps me now to see, hey, what are we struggling with? Where can I push it and where can I steer it a little bit better into the direction that we need to go. And I found it's very helpful with my clients with personal training that I see the results that if we start with personal training, let's say after half a year or three quarters of a year, and people can do it on their their own. So I'm not needed anymore now. It's never good if you're not needed anymore as a personal trainer, I guess.

Speaker 1:

But that's great. Yeah, the best teachers produce the best students who become teachers and then right.

Speaker 2:

Right, I had one of my clients says like but if you don't need you anymore, how do you get paid right? So, always looking for clients and always make sure that they hey, you have to do it yourself. I am just temporary help to get you in the right direction and to make it a routine, not a habit. Not a habit Because I think that word is so. So many times it's mixed up After a month. If you do it every time, it becomes a habit. There's a study I don't know as a week study with results, uh, that mentioned something like it, and then eventually it's been brought back to two months or 33 days, from 33 days to 60. So eventually two months.

Speaker 2:

And if you do it every day, something repetitive it becomes a habit. Well, it's not necessarily like that, because if I'm brushing my teeth, it's still not a habit, it's still a routine. I still have to make sure when I go to bed. Oh, I have to brush my teeth. I have to think about it the moment I put my toothbrush in my mouth. That is going to be a habit, because now automatically I start on my left side, go to the front, go to the right and then down and go to the other side, that is, I don't have to think about that. That is all like automatically done. So that's the difference between that routine and habit. But if we mix those things up because I have questions from um people and says like it never becomes a habit, oh yeah, sure, because I want to think about what you're saying I want to put it into practice.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, the gym, let's, let's do the gym. So going to the gym has to become a routine, because it's not something you're just gonna hop in and go right into, but when you walk in the gym and that point, working out becomes the habit right, like you, when you put your left shoe on before your right shoe.

Speaker 2:

That is your habit.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, so when you actually. That's why, when you're working out, for example, it's not when you get to point work for 20 years, so you don't think about what exercise we're doing next, how many to wait you. When you're working out, for example, it's not when you get to point work for 20 years. It's like you don't think about what exercise am I doing next, how many to wait you. Just.

Speaker 1:

You know, you just do it right as opposed to showing up even for myself, like I have to think, like, oh, I have to work out today.

Speaker 2:

Force myself to go do it and you know.

Speaker 2:

And then this is where I run into another problem. So you said it correctly. You go into your routine, your sets what you're doing. You know what you're doing on a Monday. You know what you're doing on a Wednesday. You don't even think about it. You walk to the next machine automatically, habitually. Great, but I am the person I dread it when I know exactly what I'm going to do for the next 30 minutes, like doing this exercise 10 times, repetition set, blah, blah. I am not the person for that.

Speaker 1:

I like variety, I like a little bit of a challenge, I like, uh, playfulness, so so yes, when I'm working out by myself, I bounce around variety, I have fun, I experiment with things. But as a business owner, I'm working out, also being asked 400 questions from clients and trainers, so I have to keep my workout autonomous that's the word I'm making up. Autonomous, just hopping in and out, because I have to think about other things while I'm working out. For sure, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That I understand completely, and you're consciously there, Like when you have those conscious workouts. Like you know, I need to add variety, keep away the boredom. Then, yeah, then it becomes it's not as much habitual because you're putting the thought into what's going next.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, putting the thought into what's going next, right, right, and that's uh, eventually. And what I say with it is like your self-discipline that freezes from being uh, controlled by our um base and instincts. So, um, and our base instincts, our immediate desires, is uh, being your own boss, as you say, um, and uh, I read something over here I just uh because I always am writing stuff but um, yeah, I think this is where a lot of people are derailing. When they start by themselves and they go into the gym, uh, they are worried about, okay, what am I doing first. So that's why I think personal training is that extra step of like, okay, someone is there with you, they know what to do, you don't have to worry about these things, they take you by the hand and you just follow a line. Um, but uh, even with that, and after a lot of like uh people that come to you and ask for your help, you know, to Anthony, that everybody has their own want and what they want to gain eventually. And we play with that as a personal trainer, and I think this is so important that we are staying close to the feelings and emotions of the person, because not everybody says like, yeah, first, three weeks, four weeks, very nice, I now am acquainted with all the machines. Yeah, I probably can do it myself. I need something more, and that's not necessarily more weight or more speed or more speed. You know, this is where I think, where personnel trainer shines as us to make it adaptable and make it playful. So in that case, uh, and maybe I can uh pull up my uh, yeah, if you can do that. So, so, in my little schedule over here, and you can see our pleasure and our pain, if you see that triangle in the top and if you're just listening to this and I will guide you through this.

Speaker 2:

But if we talk about, like, our spiritual well-being because in my model I have different sets of well-being Of course, our physical well-being, how are we doing in our body, our emotional well-being, it's always good to understand like, hey, how do I feel about these things. But the spiritual well-being is always, is also a little bit of a unknown thing. What is spiritual? Spirituality is not necessarily like, hey, I have faith, I believe in, uh, in a god or anything, but more like, hey, how do I find myself? What is my purpose here on earth? Kind of that way. And this is where I put the spiritual in into our well-being, because it works with our instincts, our feelings, our will and our expectations.

Speaker 2:

Now, if we have an instinct and we get a feeling from that and we create a want, they will. It's like, hey, I'm a little bit overweight, I feel bad, I want to lose weight and look great and I have an expectation with that. That should not take me longer than three months, a little bit of dieting and yeah, I'm ready and I'm shining for the summer. If we think in that way, we set an expectation in that way. Now, if we try it out and we reach a failure, we're going to feel the pain of that failure and we come in a certain circle, vicious circle. That is very negative and it becomes very hard to get out of it. If we find pleasure, we have a success from it, we can grow into the pleasure of it. Like, hey, it works, I actually look better. But is it sustainable? Are you going to do it in a long period of time?

Speaker 2:

If not, you're going back to base, unless you work with goals, and the goal setting becomes then important and that's where you would do, I think, as a personal trainer. You set goals for your client and that hopefully gives inspiration. Inspirations come from the inside and motivation comes from the outside. We are the motivators to motivate their inspiration. That gives meaning and purpose, and so we work on our spiritual well-being and eventually, if you have the purpose, you can, uh, you feel significant. Um, this is the main thing that I work on. It's like how do you feel purpose, uh, spiritually, in that too? And it's not floating or anything. It's like, hey, um, how do you feel about this? Where do you want to be? How can you make this sustainable? What are your goals and how can it be? More effective goals and pleasurable goals and not just like monotonous, uh strings of goals that uh kills you over time.

Speaker 2:

Uh, in my way, you see over here has a bias, and this is where we fall apart. Unfortunately, with the best intentions, when our biases are going to show up, we're going to derail ourselves. So our thoughts, they lead our words, our words lead our feelings and our feelings lead our emotions. Vice versa, too Emotions lead feelings, feelings, our feelings lead our emotions. Vice versa, too Emotions lead feelings, feelings, words, words, thoughts.

Speaker 2:

And Gandhi said it correctly Our thoughts come from our beliefs and our opinions. So if we pull out from our original beliefs and that's why you hear a lot of people saying the limiting beliefs, that is what is keeping us at bay and we never really shine above our own norm. That was a Dutch saying. I tried to translate that very quickly. But yeah, so if we are biased and if we can bring that bias to the foreground, like hey, the client understands, like hey, what are my biases? And then I think it's always so helpful.

Speaker 2:

This is where people accelerate and break through eventually to their own barriers. So, yeah, that's basically a nutshell what my model is about. And if it's much deeper and and I can probably talk a couple of hours about this, but that's not the case but yeah, that's what I'm working about and with that um uh thing, I also made the sport natural method. It's a planner that guides you through this thing, so it's like a companion, it's me holding your hand and that you can work through it and get there by yourself and have an understanding of growth how would you define the difference between and I know my definition, but I want to hear from you based upon your planner, discipline and motivation.

Speaker 2:

Discipline and motivation. Oh, that is a good one, Let me. I got a Sifu in my book, Sifu Fung, and he talks about discipline very well. He says in a certain way, trained means it's a determined choice carried out by self-discipline and formed through routines. So that's being trained. But if you go into discipline and I want to say it correctly discipline is the practice of obeying the best version of yourself. So that's for a discipline and the other one sorry, I lost the question what motivation?

Speaker 1:

what's the difference between discipline and motivation in your own words? Like what do you think the characteristic difference is, especially in the health and fitness field?

Speaker 2:

well, the motivation is like uh, bathing right, so, uh, you have to do it daily. It's not like one day and you're done, so it has to come all the time throughout the week, and I would say daily, to remind you of where you're going to. If you don't have that goal, you're just drifting, and when you drift, you don't know what you're doing. So, in the self-discipline isn't indeed like okay, what should I be doing right now? What is the best version of myself? And if I adhere to the best version of myself, well, that is probably what I should be doing. And if you can lift yourself up to that level of thinking, and then you, I think, work on your self-discipline interesting, I'll tell you my thought yeah I like.

Speaker 1:

I like that. I'm going to use a fire as an example. This motivation is the kindling it. It's the getting the fire going right, so you're going to light it. The discipline is getting your ass out of a chair, going to grab firewood to constantly fuel that fire, even though you're not excited to do so. But you need to keep it going.

Speaker 2:

That's beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I made that up, but it does make a lot of appropriate sense. I use an example of a gym, which I think is important, where a lot of people get motivated. They look in a mirror, they cup and a scale. For the first time in a month, they go to the doctor and get scared. There's a bunch of different motivating factors and it's usually scared motivation or depression motivation. Oh my God, I gained a lot of weight. Oh my God, my clothes don't fit me anymore. Oh my God, my doctor told me I'm going to die. I'm not motivated to go After that point.

Speaker 1:

Every second you waste the discipline that you're actually going to show up to the gym decreases. A good example and I want to kind of peer off of this is when someone walks into our club. They're not members, they're just somebody off the street. They get the spur-of-the-moment motivation to step foot in the door and hear what we have to say, because that's a lot of effort to step into a gym. Then we talk to them and they get excited.

Speaker 1:

If we don't book them to come back within 48 hours, the chances of them showing up for their free consult drops 85%. 85% drop off because they don't have the discipline to keep it in their planners, because to them the moment's gone and they lost that driver, that emotional connection to it. The emotion disappears and the discipline is what keeps them going and they don't have that anymore. Whereas the flip side with training is, if you have a personal trainer, you initially sign up, you're motivated. Now you lose that motivation, as you and I both know, pretty quickly. The discipline stays with the discipline being. I have to show up. Christiane and Anthony are waiting for me and they're going to be pissed off if I don't come.

Speaker 1:

So let me drag my ass out of bed. I'm running five minutes late already. Shit, I got to go and you run out the door and get to the gym to get a workout in, even though every fiber in your body is telling you I don't want to be here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you put habitually your shoes on.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, you have that habitual habit of your long goes off. I got to get to the gym and before you know it, you're at the gym. You didn't think about getting dressed or eating if they do eat drinking water. Grabbing your car keys, driving the car all things that you soon forget.

Speaker 2:

So interesting what you said about the motivation. It can be out of fear, and I say that it's the self-conception and the difference between self-conception and self-definition. So if we self-define ourselves, it's always opposed to something else. So I'm fat in relation to what? And that is a kind of the fear you can speak of. If someone is very centered in their self-definition, then they are also probably high in ego work. So they maybe have to look a little bit more deeper and go to the self-conception so who am I really and what I'm standing for? And that relates to the self-worth. And if the self-worth is low, then they have another big step to go to a gym, even though they are fearful or overweight, and they think, oh, I am fat, well, in relation to what? But I have low self-worth so I don't even dare to go to put on my training shoes on. So there's a lot of little factors in it. Sometimes it's and, as you say, I totally understand that. But for some people it's going so deep on a level like, even if they have a little bit of self-worth, if they don't have a high self-esteem, then you have to work on a little different angle and you work with self-esteem, then you have to work on a little different angle and you work with self-confidence. So if you have self-confidence, you can pull up your self-esteem. If your self-esteem goes up, your self-worth, your self-love or self-value also goes up. But if you have that self-worth, how are you going to work on self-confidence if you never go out of the door? How are you going to work in self-confidence if you never go out of the door? Like who is pulling you on your ear to get like, hey, come here, let's go outside, we have to train right now. So that first step. How are we going to do that? Right, and that's what I see around.

Speaker 2:

Well, unfortunately I'm in Texas and maybe it's mean. I don't want to be mean, but if you're in the Netherlands, a lot of my people already worked out and all the adults they do sports in the evening. And when I came here in Texas seven years ago, I asked for people hey, what is a club where we can play soccer or something? It's like you don't play soccer, we don't do anything, like you do nothing. You're what? Twenty, nine years old? Yeah, what are your friends doing nothing? Okay, well, there was a whole different view. So, but how do you get those people to do uh something, and I struggle more here, I have to say, than I uh, I did in the netherlands. It was a little bit easier maybe I spoke the language, but uh you.

Speaker 1:

You know that on the head and I want to clarify something you're mentioning here. Dig a little deeper and I would love opinions, the comments on this too, guys. But self-esteem, if you have the self-esteem, your self-esteem is low. Right, you're realizing you're fat, whatever. Whatever the case, the case may be, your doctor scares you.

Speaker 1:

Your doctor says hey, go work out, You're going to have a heart attack in the next 10 years if you don't get your shit together. Those that have the self-worth show up, like you said, right, but that's only 10% of those people. 90% of those people don't have the self-worth and say, oh, what's the use anyway? Or make up some other. Oh, that diet's not going to work for me. Oh, that workout program is not going to work for me. I'm the special snowflake. So they come up with these excuses because they don't have the self-worth to show up and try something and really, or even they don't have the wanting to ask for help because they have such limiting beliefs about themselves and I know we both have those clients that I can give them a nutrition plan. Right, they think their body is different. I can't tell you how many people I've sat down with. My body breaks down calories differently.

Speaker 1:

My body works with proteins differently, works whatever maybe so I don't want to be harsh, but like no, it doesn't. Like we're humans, every human breaks down calories the same exact way.

Speaker 2:

You're not, unless you're, maybe you're a different species, maybe well, it is sometimes different with proteins like but sometimes people, uh I think, I think it's 80 or something of people eat beans, uh, they're going to fart from it because they cannot break a certain protein from the bean down so I'm talking in general, you're right I don't want to down calories as a unit right right so it's thermodynamic.

Speaker 1:

Thermodynamics at its finest yeah, it's like that's all it is. It's not some special thing that you eat a carrot and I eat a carrot and you gain 20 pounds from it and I don't.

Speaker 2:

I hope not.

Speaker 1:

But I think we create these beliefs and I think that has a lot, my point being we create these beliefs because we have such little self-worth. So how do you get somebody out of that limited self-worth?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that is the work that I've tried to do. So the self-respect, self-worth, and that is a the work that I've tried to do. So the self-respect self-worth, right, it's how much you like yourself and how much you accept your strengths, your flaws and your own bullshit. Yeah, I can say that um, your self-esteem, it speaks to your sense of worth, and interactions and experience that will grow it. So my interaction with other people will grow my self-esteem. But if you don't have much self, uh, those interactions, and you constantly like on social media and you're just uh, like reacting to certain posts and such, that means like you're not out there, you're not really interacting and it is a um, it becomes more and more of a downfall for us as a species to be um, singled out by ourselves in isolation. So I think self-confidence is the energy source source. So by using your skills, you confirm your belief in your ability and that will pull that self-esteem up before we get there right, and that is that, uh, the difficult work.

Speaker 2:

But we have to, uh, I think we have to build a bridge. There is, uh, how can we show like, hey, be kind to yourself but also kick yourself in the butt like that, that that seesaw. And uh, how do you recognize the positives in in things? And, uh, how do you look after yourself? Because I know people I mean they, they, uh, some people in particular they're not making any meal for themselves, so they rather go like with no meal throughout the day and then when they go home for work, they have a big meal and they, they eat out. It's like if you're not good for yourself, you don't look after yourself. Where do you think you're going? Because uh, uh, yeah, how do you say that? Uh, you go to um a place that's darker and darker. You never get out of that circle, and I think it's been very hard to um reach out to people when they are in solitude, when they are behind that brick wall although everything is wood here, I guess yeah yeah, so, uh, yeah and uh.

Speaker 2:

I hope, therefore, with my book, uh, that I can come behind that brick wall and with the story, and that you recognize that I have the same problems as anybody else. I have the same struggles. I might seem like a very disciplined and I may, over the years, grow a certain self-discipline, but hey, it's not always easy. So this is my part of going behind that wall read the book, read through it and gain some traction in your own mind and do some self-searching and become self-aware. It's like where are you, what are your biases? And now it's like where are you, what are your biases? And now it's more important than ever.

Speaker 2:

I mean in our political area, certainly here in in america, it's, it's so divisive, it's so, uh, so rough. Also, uh, to each, each other. Like I, I didn't. They asked me uh, what, who do you vote for? When trump and um and biden went ahead, I well, you know I have no skin in the game, I am a green card holder, I'm not able to vote.

Speaker 2:

So I'm just looking at it objectively and it's like why are we at each other's throat? You know you have to work together and even if the president sits there you don't like still support him. You have to support him for four years. Hopefully he does well. I mean, you don't want anyone to fall on his face, just wish him well and if you did, well and everybody benefits of it. But that's not the norm anymore. So, um, it becomes more hard and more difficult and and I hope to get behind those walls and, uh, hopefully they see a little bit of light and just go ahead and stick their neck out, as I'm doing right now, talking to you, sticking my neck out yeah, I I agree we put out.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna just use your example. It don't matter who win the presidential election. If you don't take care of your health is you ain't going to be alive to see it.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, that's a good one, and that's the main thing we want you to work on that, that body of ours that controls everything, and even our emotions. I mean even our feelings. If we are in pain and we are not thinking clear, we go off the rails. We can. I mean, I had that in myself. I lead a certain life. I look a certain way. I've been since I was 17,. I am the same weight 65, 66 kilograms, that's probably about 145 pounds or something. I've always been the same because I always did the same thing. I always ate the same.

Speaker 2:

I'm 44 years old now, um, doing well, but and this is a big but and uh, everybody says, like how can this happen to you? Uh, I have a high cholesterol. Uh, that high is like over at was, over 320 points, so that's pretty high, uh, so I have to shoot myself at uh, rapata like a medicine every two weeks. And they asked me like how can it happen to you? You eat healthy. Yeah, well, if your body is like, um, not working well, not working well, not functioning well, you can't do anything about it. I do everything I can for what I have, but it's the things like can you imagine if I didn't, if I didn't eat. Well, if I went every day to a McDonald's or whatnot, I would probably not be sitting here because I have everything against me then. So, those things take care of yourself.

Speaker 2:

And that's another problem. I mean, uh, I was not aware of this, but uh, even my wife uh, she's a texan and she said we had athletics at school and what we did, we, uh, we ran this far, we had to go to, we nearly threw up. It's like, oh, that's not very normal to it compared to our country, like there's an abnormal, you don't do that. Well, we had to. And a lot of people say that over here. It's like, if it's so brutal, then I guess, yeah, nobody wants to work out for themselves anymore. I mean, you have a very negative connotation to athleticism and people now with football, they have pain in the knees, they've been in the ankles and they think, like I cannot work out anymore because I have pain in my knees. Well, it never comes began. It becomes, uh, even worse if you don't do anything right.

Speaker 1:

So you have to do something to make it even stronger, to give it ability back to that special snowflake well, yes, you can, it's a horrible analogy, but I just I hurt my knees, my might have a bad elbow. I have a bad. This I have it yep you can attest.

Speaker 1:

We train people literally. We've seen everything. I have seen people with one leg doing lunges. They don't have a second leg. They're still working out. Myself I have a horrible spine and I tell people that I will show you my MRI images. Like everything's herniated and bulging and you're going to complain you can't work out because your elbow's sore, like it's. These limiting beliefs go back to your acceptance. Very, very real. We give ourselves limited beliefs. We can't do something. The hard, brutal truth it's that we can, but do we have the self-worth to do it?

Speaker 2:

right, right, and that is, I think it comes up. It comes up more and more that we think we love ourselves, maybe a lot, but we lack the self-esteem that speaks to our sense of worth because of the lack of the interactions we have in the experience that should be growing it. We lack those things so we never really grow our self-respect in that way. What we grow in our self-worth is like, but the stories do we tell ourselves, and this is where you say point out snowflake, because you lift yourself up, you love yourself a lot enough, but it's not based most of time on certain concrete facets of interaction and that's why probably he turned it uh, in the snowflake, uh, but it is a real thing I need a better example, but yes right, I try not to have clients that listen to the show.

Speaker 1:

They're gonna be like you said that. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Man, you get 300 episodes out, you just lose your filter right, right, I never tried to go that way because I know if, uh, if, I think in a certain way I gonna project that too. And I don't want to project that because I'm I am the kicker in the butt type of trainer and I think a lot of personal trainers are, and I'm not necessarily like holding your hand and pulling you, but I want to be more like that way because I think it's helpful and I think it's better for myself to be multifaceted in that way. It's easy to kick someone in the butt. I recognize that. It comes easier to me, so I'd say it's easier. For some it might be not, but yes, I think really, if we do both things and for the personal trainer community I mean, I'm a member of a couple of them and I see that that we are going to switch more into like holding hands, I I feel it yeah, I definitely agree yeah yeah, I definitely agree with you, christian.

Speaker 1:

I do want to wrap this up, so I'm going to ask you the final two questions I ask everyone. First one is if you were to summarize this episode in one or two sentences, what would be your take-home message?

Speaker 2:

um, my message will be I want to connect with a person that really struggles with going out, with going uh into, like into the light where you are vulnerable. Uh, do it. I am there, I have a book out there, I have a planner out there that helps you become a little bit more aware of yourself, where you are, where you want to work on and how key how you can do that more, um, routine. So routinize, not habitual, but with routines. I think that, hopefully, is what people can take away from this one.

Speaker 1:

I love it. And then the second question how can people find your book, get ahold of you?

Speaker 2:

So my company is a sport natural and natural. It's not natural, it's not with an A on the end is natural. It's with's not natural, it's not with an A on the end, it's naturel with an E Naturel. So if you go to Sport Naturel and to the author page, you can find. Well, maybe I can offer this to your listeners. If you go to the author page and without buying the book normally you have to buy the book. There's a code in my book. It says Sifu Fong Ningli and I can give that to you. I don't know if you want to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2:

Put it up with something. Yeah, I put it in a chat over here. It's all capitalized Sifu Feng Nengli, I wrote it down for you. So if they put that in, they get the basis, our basic test, where you can be like, if you want to like, hey, am I athletic? I'm a starter. I'm just on the basic. Where am I? I have a test for that. It's not like a regular test, what you normally see, but it's our test, what? Just on the basic. Where am I? I have a test for that? It's not like a regular test, what you normally see, but it's. It's our test, what we do. The basic is very basic though. Uh, if you go into the advanced, it becomes more, uh, what we are really doing. Uh, but you get it for free, um, if you go over there, type it in as a coupon code sifonungli, sifonungli. Uh, yeah, I think. Uh, that's what I can offer for you guys. And there are workouts over there with some nutritional coaching. Um, you can find that as well over there I love it, christian.

Speaker 1:

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