beyond ArtLess
“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time.
Episodes
81 episodes
Kevin Day
What day is it? It's Kevin Day! We had the absolute pleasure of speaking with Kevin about his incredible musical journey so far, the mentors who have shaped him, and where you'll be able to find him at the Midwest Clinic. Kevin shared insights ...
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Season 3
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Episode 16
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JoAnne Harris & Carol Brittin Chambers
We had to do something to balance the scales - a single guest never stood a chance against three awful hosts. This week we invite two guests at the same time. JoAnne Harris and Carol Brittin Chambers. What followed was a lot LESS talking from t...
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Season 3
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Episode 15
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Kevin Charoensri
Chris, Peter and Phil finally get to the bottom of what is wrong with Gen X. But only with the help of our gen Z guest, Kevin Charoensri. While he has only been composing less than 10 years and he has not even finished his undergrad...
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Season 3
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Episode 14
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Stephen Bolstad
Want to hear your awkward podcast hosts get quizzed by the guest? Want to hear more about how Peter rarely shows up to a gig? Want to buy a T-shirt? How about trombone jokes? Well, this is the episode for you! Dr. Stephen Bolstad joins the crew...
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Season 3
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Episode 13
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Steve Sveum
Good friend and exceptional music educator Steve Sveum joins us this week for a great conversation about his start in music as well as some very special mentors like Bernie Powers, Ron Carter, and more. We talk Jazz at Lincoln Center, Birch Cre...
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Season 3
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Episode 12
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Dana Wilson
Brilliant composer Dana Wilson is one of a kind! In addition, he is one of the kindest guests we have ever had on the podcast. Dana has written for soloists from the Chicago Symphony and also music for young band. Peter, Phil,...
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Season 3
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Episode 11
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Emily Moss
Chris and Peter share stories about their trip to Montana while Phil shares a story about his trombone being seized by TSA. Thankfully Dr. Emily Moss joins us to share her musical journey, the importance of mentorship, and her approach to teach...
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Season 3
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Episode 10
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James Weaver
Dearest commuter, this week Phil and Peter share the same physical location resulting in noticeable tension during the show. Chris realizes that AI can now do podcasts better than this show (not a high bar). Thankfully, Dr. James Weaver, Direct...
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Season 3
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Episode 9
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Robert Baca
Try hard not to confuse this episode with a guide for folks over 50 needing help with their vision. Mercifully, our guest saves our hosts from themselves. Bob Baca is a visionary trumpet player, educator and musical leader. Jo...
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Season 3
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Episode 8
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Lowell Graham
Warning, Chris brings up the stinger yet again, Phil is back in his closet, and Peter continues to get hounded, no pun intended, by his dog Louie. Thankfully, Colonel Lowell Graham stops by to share his experiences from his time leading the Uni...
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Season 3
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Episode 7
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Peter Gamwell
Phil is only present for about 10 minutes of this show. Why? You'll just have to listen to find out. Need an even better reason to listen to this week's episode? Gotcha covered! Meet Dr. Peter Gamwell. Peter is an award-winning leader in educat...
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Season 3
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Episode 6
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Meagan Bachmayer & Katherine Bergman
Professional wind ensemble, you say? Minnesota Winds has arrived, commuter. This ensemble comes complete with monster musicians, a website second to none and merch that some listeners (Paul Kile) refuse to take off. Listen to ...
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Season 3
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Episode 6
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James Stephenson
This week Jim Stephenson made the unfortunate choice to join us. We talk about his amazing sports career as a youth, how he had to choose between golf or music, and how everything in his life happens by accident. Phil sputters sentence fragranc...
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Season 3
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Episode 5
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Sara Knueve & Laura Roeker
Coming directly from the land of acronyms, our guests this week expanded this podcast's horizons while stretching the hosts' minds (not hard to do). We are thrilled to have you meet two amazing leaders from the Wisconsin Department of Public In...
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Season 3
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Episode 4
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Cynthia Johnston Turner
Yet another episode marred by excessive talking by Peter, poor introductions by Phil and general sleepiness by Chris. Thankfully, our guest compensates for all of our poor hosting. Dr. Cindi Johnson Turner has spent her career succe...
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Season 3
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Episode 3
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Jack Stamp
Our previous two seasons began with a guest named Scott. This year we start with a Stamp and we couldn't be happier! Jack Stamp stops in to share his journey from being a seventh-grade percussionist to becoming a composer and conductor. He reve...
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Season 3
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Episode 2
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Season 3 Teaser
Hey Commuters - We are back for another season! This episode is especially bad as it contains no guests! Instead, you can listen to Phil, Peter, and Chris reunite after an eventful summer filled with medical visits, witness relocation programs,...
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Season 3
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Episode 1
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Live From The Festival
The Season 2 Finale is here! As you will hear, we end the season with more of a whimper than a bang. Regardless, thank you for sticking with us through another season. We are tremendously grateful to all of our guests this past season as well a...
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Season 2
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Episode 40
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Lt. Col. Ryan Nowlin
Our final guest of season 2 is Lt. Col. Ryan Nowlin, the 29th Director of "The President's Own" United States Marine Band! Our conversation covers Ryan's career path from public school music teacher to staff arranger and now Director of "The Pr...
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Season 2
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Episode 39
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1:06:56
Christine & Tim Baumann
In this episode, we talk to Peter about his trip to Panama. No, it is not part of the witness protection program...well, not this time. Our guests, Tim and Christine Baumann share with us their amazing journey in music education (and the planet...
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Season 2
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Episode 38
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Jeff Ball
In this episode, Phil turns 50. Don’t worry, his status with AARP doesn’t affect his podcasting ability. Thankfully, Jeff Ball stops by for a chat. Jeff is the Director of Bands and Coordinator of Performing Arts at the Grand Street Campus (GSC...
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Season 2
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Episode 37
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1:03:08
Josh Becker
Dr. Josh Becker, a trombone player and elementary school teacher, shares his experiences and insights. He teaches fifth grade and coordinates the elementary band program in the Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan School District in Minnesota. He al...
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Season 2
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Episode 36
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1:06:07
John Mackey
This week's guest is John Mackey. It is worth the listen even with the three hosts still involved. Yet, it is important to note an interesting development - the software we use to produce this podcast now offers AI episode summary and "ta...
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Season 2
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Episode 35
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