beyond ArtLess
“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time.
Episodes
110 episodes
Michael Markowski
Phil asked one truly insightful question—alongside a few not-so-great ones—but we’re incredibly proud of how much he’s grown. Peter made an impressive comeback in PPTD, while Chris continues to meet challenges head-on (bless his heart). This we...
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Season 3
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Episode 44
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Laura Dunbar
Maybe Chris should learn how to take notes. Maybe Peter should learn how to arrange travel for guests. Maybe Phil should learn how to interview. Our guest Dr. Laura Dunbar can do all of these things better than our hosts and i...
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Season 3
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Episode 43
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Omar Thomas
It’s hard to mess up a podcast when you have a guest like Omar Thomas. In this episode, we talk with Omar about his incredibly busy and creative schedule, the release of his new album Griot Songs, and the behind-the-scenes process of r...
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Season 3
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Episode 42
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Bill Drury
March Madness is in full swing and our guest is providing us all the knowledge our commuter will ever need about Gonzaga basketball. Bill Drury shares with us about his career as Associate Director of Wind Ensembles at New England Conserv...
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Season 3
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Episode 41
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Mickaela Pasch
Join us this week as we learn from a young teacher who is much brighter than we are! Mickaela Pasch is a recent Concordia grad changing lives all around the state of Minnesota. Intentional, passionate, a volunteer, and visionary in music educat...
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Season 3
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Episode 40
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Mary Land
This week, Eric Songer steps in for Phil, delivering a strong performance as co-host. After helping Peter tackle a minor wardrobe noise issue, we dive into a fantastic conversation with Dr. Mary Land, Associate Professor of Music Education at W...
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Season 3
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Episode 39
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Michael Kasper
It's a BIG week for this below-average podcast! We wrap up our "Inquiring Teens Want to Know" segment (big thanks to Edina HS) and finally put the "What Would Phil and Peter Do" (WWPPD) segment to rest. As if that wasn't enough, our guest Micha...
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Season 3
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Episode 38
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Henry Dorn
The Lutheran Mafia has strong representation in this week’s episode! We visit with Dr. Henry Dorn from St. Olaf College and get to hear his southern flare mixed with Midwest appreciation for the cold weather. As usual, Haberman talks too much, ...
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Season 3
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Episode 37
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Rachel Maxwell
That’s it. We’re officially done… with WWPPD. But wait—there’s more good news!This week, we’re joined by the incredible Rachel Maxwell, a renowned middle school music educator and band director from Traughber Junior High in Oswego, IL. W...
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Season 3
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Episode 36
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JoAnne Harris & Alex Tedrow
Show Notes:Learn more about our guests here:JoAnne HarrisAlex TedrowAudio Credits:Flicke...
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Season 3
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Episode 35
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Jack Kinsella Midwest 2024
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyo...
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Season 3
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Episode 34
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Jamal Rossi
Perhaps the name of the podcast should be changed to “folks smarter than Chris, Phil and Peter.” Dr. Jamal Rossi has been Dean of the Eastman School of Music for the last decade and has worked as an administrator at some of the country’s ...
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Season 3
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Episode 33
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Melody Snyder Midwest 2024
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to eve...
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Season 3
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Episode 32
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Jessica Meyer Midwest 2024
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to eve...
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Season 3
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Episode 31
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Nacho Piqueras
Beyond Artless has gone international! This week, we are expanding our horizons with Nacho Piqueras from Oros Travel & Culture. A friend of Peter’s and a music enthusiast, Nacho enjoys connecting people from different cultures through music...
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Season 3
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Episode 30
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Annie Ray
What does this week's guest have that this podcast will never have? A GRAMMY! That's right, this week's guest is the 2024 GRAMMY Music Educator of the Year, Annie Ray. Annie currently serves as both the Orchestra Director and Performing Arts De...
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Season 3
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Episode 29
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Midwest 2024 Compilation 1: Smith, VanderLoop, Nickelson, Collins-Dowden, Freeman, Cogswell, Joosten, Baumann & JaRod Hall
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyo...
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Season 3
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Episode 28
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Jason Gillette
This episode has it all. If all you care about is plastic footwear. Crocs seem to dominate this week’s episode with our guest - 29 year veteran teacher Jason Gillette. Jason is the band director at Marquette University High Sc...
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Season 3
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Episode 27
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Corey Pompey
What better way to start 2025 than with our guest, UW-Madison Associate Director of Bands, Dr. Corey Pompey. Corey shares his journey that has led him to the frigid tundra of Madison, Wisconsin taking the helm of the Badger Marching Band after ...
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Season 3
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Episode 26
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Louise Smith
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyo...
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Season 3
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Episode 27
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Renee Lechner & Ian Melrose Midwest 2024
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyo...
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Season 3
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Episode 23
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Vicente Piqueras Midwest 2024
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyo...
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Season 3
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Episode 25
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Emily Chasowy Midwest 2024
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyo...
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Season 3
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Episode 24
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Erin Holmes & Brad Mariska Midwest 2024
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyo...
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Season 3
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Episode 22
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Tyler Grant & John Stewart Midwest 2024
This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyo...
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Season 3
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Episode 21
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